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Old 06-11-2002, 11:59 AM
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Muppet Babies Clone

Hey everybody,

It look like Cartoon Network is copying the Muppet Babies with their new series, "Looney Tunes Babies". They even have a Nanny, Ooops I mean Granny that they live with plus a nursery and a window.

This the article: http://forums.toonzone.net/showthrea...threadid=36877

It has picture with it.
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Old 06-11-2002, 12:37 PM
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Well, you know they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I wonder if the Looney Babies will pretend they're in Star Wars too?
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Old 06-11-2002, 02:19 PM
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Bean Boy, There have been many rip-offs of the Muppet babies since they were introduced to television. There was a Pup named Scooby-Doo, Flintstone Kids, Yo-Yogi (Hanna Barbera has quite a few of them, thank God they stopped before they made Hong Kong Phooey Babies) Tiny Toons (If you can count it as one) and Disney Babies (which, thankfully never Made it to air). And as for the Looney Toonies being babies, How can Sylvester and Tweety be Babies at the same time? Tweety is three and a half years old, as it is!
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Old 06-11-2002, 07:14 PM
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This just seems wrong to me. The Looney Tunes should not be cute, wide eyed little babies. They should remain the adults who are allways trying to kill each other that we all know and love.
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Old 06-11-2002, 07:46 PM
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Wow, I remember when this was called Tiny Tunes(back in that wretched period of the early 90's) They musta gone back to the drawing board to shake a few loose chromozones.

Then again, this treatment was given to Sesame Street. IF you noticed, until this week, the only JHC related merch at stores was very babified 'Sesame Baby' products by Fisher Price. Just sad(over a decade for decent Muppet stuff to come out)

But the 'baby' fying of characters is a wide practice. I am so grateful for Muppet Babies...its early run of 84-86 was breathtakingly ingenius to me.

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Old 06-11-2002, 09:27 PM
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Yes, I know that they there have been many Muppet Babies Clones, but I just thought that this one looked interesting. The Looney Tunes Babies brand has been around since the 80's on Baby products and clothing. Just last year, the WB produced an animated short call "Little Beep" about baby Willie E. Coyote and Roadrunner.

Oh yes, the Disney Babies. They have also been around since 80's appearing babies toys and Huggies.
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Old 06-13-2002, 04:24 PM
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IF you noticed, until this week, the only JHC related merch at stores was very babified 'Sesame Baby' products by Fisher Price.
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Yeah! That goes back to Sylvester and Tweety! They lump together a bunch of characters of a certain age group and give them a homogenius age and call them _______ Babies. I know that the Sesame Characters are technically ageless, but still, Elmo and Cookie are definately not the same age.

As for the series itself (Looney Toons, now) I can't see getting involved. I'll only tune in if June Foray (one of my favorite voice actresses by the way, cause she was in a certain cartoon about a Moose and Squirrel) is the voice of Granny.

But the truth of the matter is that none of these shows will
ever amount to the greatness of the Muppet Babies. It had great writing, great ideas, and even if it had an entirely different, non-Muppet cast, it still would have been a wonderful show for kids to watch because of that. Everything else seems a little like Monkey see, Monkey do, Monkey want to make a profit!
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Old 06-13-2002, 09:44 PM
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June Foray will voice Granny.
http://www.toonzone.net
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Cast of Characters

BUGS- When Bugs grows up he’s going to be quick-witted, streetwise, supremely self-aware and into living the good life. But right now, Bugs is only a kid and just learning to do the things and have the attitudes that will make him a star. Winning is by no means certain. Yet even now, he already exhibits the innate spunk and cockiness that make him a born leader, even if he’s not yet sure he has all the right answers.

LOLA -The biggest dreamer of the gang, Lola thinks bigger and explores farther than anyone else. Always trying to prove her mettle, she’s often the first to charge in, only to find she’s a bit beyond her depth. As demonstrative emotionally as she is physically, Lola regularly hits the highest peaks and suffers the steepest drops on the rollercoaster ride of childhood.

DAFFY- Daffy wants things his way—all the time! Completely self-involved, he is a frequent source of trouble for Bugs and the gang. If there’s a mistake to be made or a wrong decision to be decided, Daffy does it, and in the end usually learns his lesson.

SYLVESTER- Even surrounded by friends, Sylvester is a lost kitten. He is the most easily frightened of the group and sometimes more self-absorbed than Daffy. He is eternally pessimistic, hungry for all the good things childhood has to offer—nowhere near enough of which are his. Sylvester often feels like he’s getting the short end of the stick, and therefore is frequently looking to play an angle to get what he wants.

TWEETY- Representing the simple, pure heart of childhood, Tweety is filled with the optimism of someone who believes that dreams can come true. Sweet, kind and caring, his heart is on the surface. With Tweety, what you see is what you get. Sympathetic and empathetic, he often acts as translator of Taz’s emotional “pre-language.”

TAZ -Taz is pure id. His emotions are full “on” or full “off”—either happy, sad, angry…or asleep. Easily distracted by anything more fun and colorful, he’s simple and good of heart, with none of the meanness or brutishness of his adult counterpart. His speech patterns are a bit limited, though—think a two-year-old caveman.

GRANNY -Beneath a bun of white hair, Granny is the Mother Yoda of the young set. She knows when to let the kids make their own mistakes and when to actively help them. She’s always ahead of them, but rarely lets them know it. Often a bookend and catalyst for the kids’ adventures, she loves them dearly, but gives them room to grow.

Additional Characters The core ensemble above will be augmented from time to time by other Baby Looney Tunes characters including Porky, Elmer, Pepé, Wile E., Road Runner, Melissa, Petunia and Marvin, among others.



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FORMAT: 30-minute animated comedy consisting of two 11-minute shorts and a one-minute song/music video
PRODUCTION & ANIMATION: Warner Bros. Animation
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: Sander Schwartz
PRODUCERS: Tom Minton
Gloria Jenkins
ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Kimberly Smith
STORY EDITORS: Karl Geurs
Tim Cahill
Julie McNally Cahill
CREATIVE EXECUTIVES: Christopher Keenan
Lorri Bond
CASTING/VOICE DIRECTOR: Michael Hack
LEAD VOICE TALENT: June Foray (Granny)
Sam Vincent (Bugs)
Sam Vincent (Daffy)
Sam Vincent (Tweety)
Britt McKillip (Lola)
Ian James Corlett (Taz)
Terry Klassen (Sylvester)
Chiara Zanni (Petunia)
Janyse Jaud (Melissa

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Old 06-14-2002, 10:16 AM
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Anyone see the new "Baby Pooh" stuff out now too? I just saw some "Baby Pooh" "Baby Tigger" and "Baby Eeyore" plushes and stuff at TRU. GAG!!
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Who is Melissa? they just made this character up didn't they? The thing that makes me mad is the inclusion of Lola as a main character, whatever happened to Honey Bunny? Lola was just in one terrible movie and then merchandised. And Elmer as a baby would be ridiculous.
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Old 06-14-2002, 11:01 AM
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Who is Melissa? they just made this character up didn't they? The thing that makes me mad is the inclusion of Lola as a main character, whatever happened to Honey Bunny? Lola was just in one terrible movie and then merchandised. And Elmer as a baby would be ridiculous.
I believe Melissa will be a female duck (the fowl equivalent of Lola/Honey Bunny)
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Old 06-14-2002, 11:10 AM
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Actually, the Sesame Street characters each have a specific age. I think Elmo is 3 1/2. Big Bird is six, though he started out younger. I believe Carroll Spinney talks about this in the A&E Sesame Street biography. I don't remember all the ages, but I think a lot of them are mentioned in Sesame Street Unpaved.

The idea is that each character represents a unique stage of early childhood development, providing every member of the Sesame audience with a character they can identify with, and providing Sesame Street with characters going through all the same developmental stuff as their audience.

That's why Elmo isn't very good with personal pronouns-- kids his age don't generally get that. It's why Big Bird and Snuffy tend to play more complex imaginative games than Zoe and Elmo-- older kids can create more elaborate imaginary worlds and act them out, younger kids tend to act out what they have seen and experienced (Zoe, being younger, would probably be unlikely to make up a game show with all the rules and whatnot that go into that, she can, however, be a contestant on Bird and Snuffy's game show because she has seen game shows on tv). Like wise, Bird and Snuffy are not likely to pretend a coat is a playmate because they know coats are inanimate objects (they'd use Radar or something else that represents a live being) while Zoe isn't tied to those sorts of ideas yet and for her it is perfectly plausible that a coat or a rock could talk and play with her.

Probably more information than you wanted. As a sociologist, I find the detail and thought behind each of the Sesame Street characters fascinating. I don't know of any other kids show that has ever gone to such lengths to be accurate and realistic about child development and it is one of the things that makes the show so great and effective as an educational tool.

As for the Sesame merchandise-- yes, there is an awful lot of Sesame baby stuff. But there is also some regular Sesame stuff. There is a line of cars (just a little bit larger than matchbox cars) with Sesame characters driving that are nicely made and not babified. (I'm particularly fond of the Count in his purple convertible.) There are some other, small, mostly plastic toys that are more accurate representations of the characters, but nothing that really leaps out at me. I don't really understand this-- some Sesame babys are fine, but Elmo is only 3 1/2 and Zoe is a bit younger, what's the point of turning them into babies? (rhetorical question there, of course I understand what's going on, just seems silly to me)
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What about Taz? They're going to have to down play his Mayheim a bit. They had to significantly down play Animal's. Look at Adult animal. He's a wild man. He tries to eat his drums (in liu of Beating them) and chases after women, (or as he'd say, "WO-MAN!!!). He's on a leash for crying out loud. Though baby Animal did try to eat things, he wasn't nearly as wild as he was in the show (he didn't have to be restrained, that is) but he still became a favorite. Taz, however, he's wild, and many times an antagonist in Bugs Bunny stories, trying to eat Bugs. Even when they made the Tiny Toons version of Taz (Dizzy Devil, I think) he was still a vicious, wild preditor. If you take that away from him, you basically make another character who looks like Taz.

And to think of it, this is basically a bad Idea. The Muppets, unlike the Looney Toons, never tried to kill and eat the others (though the Swedish Chef once tried to cook Big Bird) , or blow the other away with dynamite (on purpose, anyway)
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Wow, I dont know whether to be intrigued enough to watch this, or to want to gag and wretch.

I liked Tiny Toons because it was funny, and although based heavily off of Warner Brothers, they were there own characters who developed in their own ways to become unique and interesting, if sometimes formulaic.

But this? I'm not so sure of.

Oh yeah, and I everyone, I'm back. Muahahaha
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And to think of it, this is basically a bad Idea. The Muppets, unlike the Looney Toons, never tried to kill and eat the others (though the Swedish Chef once tried to cook Big Bird) , or blow the other away with dynamite (on purpose, anyway)
What about all those monsters? And let's not forget my name sake. He blew up EVERYTHING on purpose. But none of these characters were included, so I guess that doesn't count.

I noticed Yosamity Sam wasn't included in the cast list. At least that's one character who won't suffer that horror of being cutesified. (isn't making up words fun)
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