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bknatchbull

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:smile: News Story from jimhillmedia.com:


The fine print in this casting notice reads:

Seeking experienced puppeteers with improvisitional and vocal skills. Relocation is not required, however you must be available to travel. Auditions will be held in New York, Los Angeles and Toronto. Please call 407-828-1087 for additional information.

Now some folks see this ad as the culmination of a lifelong dream. A chance to audition for a puppeteering job with the Muppet Holding Company. Which could eventually lead to a job working with characters that they've loved since their childhood.

While still others see this casting notice as a nightmare. A sign that the Walt Disney Company has absolutely no respect for Jim Henson's beloved characters. A clear indication that many veteran Muppeteers will soon be out of work.

Well, the truth of the matter is ... Neither side is right here. For the lucky few who actually land a job with the Muppet Holding Company (MHC), there'll be no "standard rich & famous contract" waiting for them after they make their rainbow connection. But -- rather -- just the chance to perform these much beloved characters on the Disney Cruise Line and/or at one of the Disney theme parks.

And -- as much as I know that it'll disappoint the folks over at the newly created SaveTheMuppets.com website to hear this -- the mere fact that MHC is holding auditions in New York City, Los Angeles and Toronto this month does NOT automatically mean that Steve Whitmire (I.E. The veteran Muppeteer who currently performs Kermit), Dave Goelz (I.E. The puppeteering genius who helped create Gonzo the Great) and Eric Jacobson (I.E. The talented young puppeteer who currently performs Frank Oz's old characters: Miss Piggy, Fozzie Bear, Animal et al) will soon be out of work.

So what exactly are the long term ramifications of the Muppet Holding Company holding these new puppeteer auditions? With the hopes that I might actually be able to get an answer to that question, I made a call to MHC yesterday. The next thing I know, I've got Martin Baker on the line.

"Now who's Martin Baker?," you ask. Well, I'm sure that all you hardcore Henson fans out there will recognize Martin's name, given the number of times it's appeared in the credits of Muppet-related productions. Starting 'way back in 1979 (when he was the VP in charge of production on "The Muppet Show") Mr. Baker has ridden herd on virtually every single major Muppet project over the past 25 years. TV shows like "Fraggle Rock" and "Jim Henson's The Storyteller." Feature films like "The Muppet Movie," "The Great Muppet Caper" and "The Muppet Treasure Island." Martin even had a hand in this year's TV movie, "The Muppets Wizard of Oz" ... But we won't hold that one against him.

Anyway ... Given Baker's longtime association with Jim Henson's characters, the folks at the Muppet Holding Company thought that Martin would be the perfect person to help them tackle a most difficult project. Which was that MHC needed to find some additional puppeteers pronto. Talented performers who could help the Walt Disney Company deal with its growing desire to showcase & promote these classic characters.

"You have to understand that the Muppets are now part of this major corporation that has theme parks and cruise lines. Places where people would really enjoy seeing Jim Henson's characters," Baker explained. "So what we're trying to do with these auditions is find puppeteers with the necessary skills to properly perform the Muppets in these new venues."

Now it might seem strange that someone who's had such a long association with the Jim Henson Company would be willing to take on an assignment like this. Which (at first glance, anyway) appears to be seeking out performers that could possibly become replacements for the very people that Martin has worked with & become friends with over the years. Veteran Muppeteers like Whitmere, Goelz and Jacobson. But Baker explained that that's really not what's going on here.

"Our core group of performers will still get the high profile jobs. The TV shows, the movie work," Martin continued. "This new group of performers -- as talented as they might be -- will only get the secondary jobs. When Kermit needs to appear at the opening of a mall or in a new show at the theme parks."

It's actually this aspect of Disney's plan to up these characters' public profiles that has some Muppet fans upset. The very notion that -- if Miss Piggy & pals should start appearing in every Disney theme park or on board every Disney Cruise ship -- that these classic characters will then somehow be diminished, seem less special. That their increased visibility will eventually reduce the value of the Muppet brand.

Baker quickly dismisses this idea. Insisting that Jim Henson didn't have a problem with Disney wanting to have the Muppets appear in multiple performance venues at the same time. More importantly, that Jim himself was comfortable with the idea that other puppeteers would eventually begin performing his classic characters in his place.

"I remember talking with Jim back in late 1989, early 1990. When it was obvious that all his new creative assignments for the Walt Disney Company were going to prevent Jim from being the puppeteer who always performed Kermit," Baker explained. "But Jim was okay with that. Just as long as the performer who was replacing Jim gave a consistent performance with Kermit, preserved the integrity of the character."

What mattered most to Henson (Back then, anyway) was that his characters would live on long after he was gone. This is actually one of the main reasons that Jim approached Michael Eisner back in 1989 with the idea that the Walt Disney Company should acquire the Jim Henson Company. After all, given the Disney corporation's proven ability to keep core characters like Mickey Mouse, Snow White & Pinocchio relevant to each new generation of children, Henson knew that the Mouse had what it took to keep the Frog evergreen.

Which brings us back to what the Muppet Holding Company is trying to do today. Which is helping Kermit & Co. connect with a generation that doesn't really know the Muppets. Kids who don't necessarily think that this group of puppets is anything special. Funny or cool.

The new Muppet-based shows that currently are in the works for the Disney theme parks & the Disney Cruise line will hopefully go a long way toward dispelling the notion that Miss Piggy & pals are merely nostalgic figures. Characters that wouldn't really appeal to today's audiences. Which is why it's crucial that the Muppet Holding Company finds just the right performers to bring Kermit & Co. to life in these new settings.

Of course, should a particular puppeteer in one of the theme park or cruise ship shows prove that they have real promise, Martin suggests that there might be the possibility that this performer could then eventually work their way up into the "A" team. Join the core group of performers who portray the Muppets in all the movies and on TV shows.

"Not because we're anxious to replace anyone, mind you. But -- rather -- because our core group of performers is aging," Baker explained. "Just over the past few years -- due to career commitments and health reasons -- we've had to find replacements for both Frank Oz and Jerry Nelson. Recruit performers to cover the characters that these two used to portray."

"And I'm certain that we're going to have to do that again in the future," he continued. "So why wait? Isn't it better if we're proactive now? Set up a situation where at least we have a few options should we ever need to replace a performer. Rather than scramble, to try & cover for someone at the very last moment."

"Don't get me wrong. We have complete respect for what our veteran performers do with their characters. Which is why we hope that they continue to work for Muppet Holding for many years yet to come," Martin concluded. "But -- at the same time -- we want the Muppets to live on long after this core group of puppeteers is gone. Which is why it's important now to do some advance planning. To think about where the next generation of Muppeteers is coming from."

Which is why Baker really enjoyed taking part in last Thursday's auditions at Ripley-Grier Studios in NYC. Watching as over 80 young talented puppeteers went through their passes as they tried to win a spot at last Friday's callbacks.

"Jane Henson (Jim's widow) actually came by for that first day of auditions," Martin recalled. "She had such fond memories of when Jim used to hold auditions that she decided to drop by, just to sit in for a few minutes. Well, that few minutes stretched out to a few hours. Jane had a really great time watching those kids work."

After an unspecified number of puppeteers were called back to Ripley-Grier on Friday, Baker & his team then set their sights on the next round of auditions. Which will be held next week in North Hollywood at Screenland Studios. The first round of auditions will be held on September 23rd, while call backs are scheduled for Sept 24th.

As for the Toronto auditions ... No information regarding dates and locations has been released about those yet.

Speaking of which ... If you'd like some more information about the next round of auditions that the Muppet Holding Company will be holding for replacement puppeteers, then I suggest you give the MHC hotline a call at 407-828-1027.

I know, I know. Given the number of negative stories that I've written about MHC over the past year or so, I bet that a lot of you folks thought that I'd throw in with the conspiracy theorists. Join the people who were saying that -- just by holding these auditions -- Disney is irrepairably damaging the Muppets. And that what the Muppet Holding Company is doing must be stopped at all costs.

Well, to be honest ... I kind of like what MHC is doing here. Which is helping to bring new Muppet-based shows to the Disney theme parks & cruise ships. Shows that will feature actual puppeteers performing the Muppets. Rather than some 16-year-old who walks around in a Miss Piggy costume as they pose for pictures & sign autographs.

And as for the concept that this new group of puppeteers could eventually become MHC's "farm team," the place where Muppet Holding could turn to if they needed talented performers to help out with new TV shows & films ... Well, that appeals to me as well.

Mind you, this is not to say that I don't have concerns that MHC might eventually see these kids as the lower priced alternative to the older, more highly priced seasoned performers like Whitmere & Goelz. And that someday Steve & Dave may not get a call to come into work to portray their characters. All because Muppet Holding is trying to save a few bucks on a particular project.

For now, I'm just going to try & stay optimistic as I think about what MHC is trying to do with the Muppets. Which is basically bring a once-legendary entertainment brand back from the dead. Make the Muppets seem relevant to today's audiences. Grow the fan base for these classic characters beyond the diehard Muppet fans. Win back over the mainstream audience again.

Of course, given the size of this project, it may take some time & involve some real risk. Which is why -- for now at least -- I'm inclined to cut the Muppet Holding Company a little slack.

But how about you folks? What do you make of the Muppets Auditions rorschach test? Is it really a good thing that the Muppet Holding Company is now holding auditions for puppeteers to serve as understudies / alternate performers for these classic characters? Or will MHC's effort here continue to undermine what is already a pretty fragile franchise?
 

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Thanks for posting that--I think it's a really balanced story, and I tend to agree with its cautious optimism.
 

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AndyWan Kenobi said:
Thanks for posting that--I think it's a really balanced story, and I tend to agree with its cautious optimism.
Ditto that.

Good to see some quotes from Martin Baker!
 

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MuppetNewsHound said:
And -- as much as I know that it'll disappoint the folks over at the newly created SaveTheMuppets.com website to hear this -- the mere fact that MHC is holding auditions in New York City, Los Angeles and Toronto this month does NOT automatically mean that Steve Whitmire (I.E. The veteran Muppeteer who currently performs Kermit), Dave Goelz (I.E. The puppeteering genius who helped create Gonzo the Great) and Eric Jacobson (I.E. The talented young puppeteer who currently performs Frank Oz's old characters: Miss Piggy, Fozzie Bear, Animal et al) will soon be out of work.
How will this disapoint the folks at Save The Muppets? I thought that site was made so that the performers would still perform their characters.

It's funny how Jim referred to Eric jacopson as the talented young puppeteer who currently performs Frank Oz's old characters. I thought he was talking negative about him in his MWoO article.

Has anybody noticed that Jim Hill didn't mention Bill Barretta when he listed performers who wouldn't be out of work?
 

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minor muppetz said:
Has anybody noticed that Jim Hill didn't mention Bill Barretta when he listed performers who wouldn't be out of work?
No, but that's a given that Bill will ALWAYS have his job.
 

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HERE'S A MUPPET NEWS FLASH!!!

Jim Hill has been kidnapped by Disney and replaced with an animatronic version of himself!
 

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the way I see it:

the good: The Muppets will have a new talent pool for new characters for future tv productions, etc for new characters or replacements for cacant characters.

the bad: So when "Kermit" appears at a Time Square opening, while before we assumed it was to be Steve Whitmire, now it wont even be worth noting if it's just some understudy. I do feels it cheapens it. While we know that "Bear"(BITBBH) is almost always not the actual performer, and we know they have teens dressed up in cheap sweetums outfits at the Disney parks, we usually think of the actual Muppets appearing at places as being performed by their signature performer.

Ultimately, after reading the article; knowing Jane Henson was involved; knowing Martin Baker was overseeing it; and knowing that for the few hundred wouldbe folks trying out it was be a true lifelong dream. So ultimately I guess this is good, I just am not ocmfortable with a revolving roster of Muppets doing all these appearences everywhere at once.

But what Jim Hill says here makes sense: "Well, to be honest ... I kind of like what MHC is doing here. Which is helping to bring new Muppet-based shows to the Disney theme parks & cruise ships. Shows that will feature actual puppeteers performing the Muppets. Rather than some 16-year-old who walks around in a Miss Piggy costume as they pose for pictures & sign autographs."

Tho at least we knew those werent the actual muppets...it may confuse people to think these are the Muppets, as to be each character retains the specific performer's personality; except where a character is going through
a revolving door syndrome(ie: the characters performed here and there by different puppeteers)

Finally; like they are going to find someone who can accurately do Gonzo:smile:
 

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beaker said:
So when "Kermit" appears at a Time Square opening, while before we assumed it was to be Steve Whitmire, now it wont even be worth noting if it's just some understudy.
I have a feeling that in places like L.A or NYC it will always be the main performer appearing.


I would definitely not call these new guys that will be picked understudies.
How about Muppeteers version 2.0? :smile:

Personally I just prefer the term 'Occasional Muppeteers', which is what they really truly will be.

A true understudy would replace (for example Steve Whitmire) and do his exact script in a TV show or movie. Some how the Occasional Muppeteer won’t actually be put into a true understudy role… at least not yet.

But I wouldn't be so quick to condemn the new Occasional Muppeteers. This is a national casting call and some great quality performers will end up getting picked. One or two might end up being picked that will bring back what Jim Henson brought to the Kermit character. Or there might be some Occasional Muppeteers that brings back the greatness that was Statler and Waldorf. And in time, given years perhaps those Occasional Muppeteers might become star Muppet performers.
To quote from the Jim Hill arcticle:

"Of course, should a particular puppeteer in one of the theme park or cruise ship shows prove that they have real promise, Martin suggests that there might be the possibility that this performer could then eventually work their way up into the "A" team. Join the core group of performers who portray the Muppets in all the movies and on TV shows."

Disney (and Sesame Workshop) are doing the right thing by creating a troop to draw from for the future. For some unbelievable reason, this never occurred to the Henson family and they were caught off guard.

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