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beaker20
08-17-2003, 09:01 PM
I am looking for any props from The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, The Neverending Story, any of the Muppet Movies or the Muppet Show. If anyone has some information where i might be able to locate something it would be helpful.
Buck-Beaver
08-17-2003, 10:23 PM
Best bet is probably ebay (http://www.ebay.com). I know more and more props from movies and TV shows are showing up on there (I recently lost out on a chair from MST3k I really wanted). Honestly though, I don't know how much Muppet stuff is out there - I think that they retain a lot of stuff.
Then again, there was that guy who kept trying to auction off the Electric Mayhem bus... :crazy:
beaker20
08-17-2003, 10:37 PM
I've checked ebay and there really is nothing of great interest to me as far as props go. I've been told by a couple of reputable prop dealers that The Henson Company has either trashed alot of stuff after production or is locked away. I have been told that there is stuff floating around but it's hard to find. Another question i want to know is if the stuff that is in the market is anything significant. I am hoping to find major character props. I found a Gonzo nose that was used in Muppets in Space which i think is pretty cool but i kinda want to holdout in hoping something great surfaces. Thanks for the reply and your input.
Muppetsdownunder
08-17-2003, 11:05 PM
I would guess there wouldnt be a great deal made available to the public, there is probably lots of stuff in movie museums or restaurants etc, and Im sure the henson family would have heaps of stuff aswell as the company. :)
beaker20
08-17-2003, 11:14 PM
I also contacted The Jim Henson Creature Shop in Burbank about props so i hope they email me back sometime this week.
BJC899
08-18-2003, 12:47 AM
This auction is great.
eBay Auction For Gonzo's Nose (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2187461279&category=14433)
I might bid, I have to see.
beaker20
08-18-2003, 12:59 AM
I was looking at that auction as well. I'm not to sure on the authenticity of that piece though. I am still waiting to hear back from the seller.
BJC899
08-18-2003, 01:11 AM
I was looking at that auction as well. I'm not to sure on the authenticity of that piece though. I am still waiting to hear back from the seller.
What did you say to the seller? It says in the discript, that is garantied (sp?) authentic for a lifetime.
beaker20
08-18-2003, 01:22 AM
I asked if it came with a COA from the studio or the prop master. I asked a couple other questions but i just can't remember right now.
Muppetsdownunder
08-18-2003, 07:31 AM
This auction is great.
eBay Auction For Gonzo's Nose (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2187461279&category=14433)
I might bid, I have to see.
That would be nice to have but I dont know if it would be worth that much money, I dont think I would pay that much even if I had that much hanging around.
Just make your own one out of paper mache and noone will know the difference, lol. only joking :p
Phillip Chapman
08-18-2003, 08:02 AM
This appears legit. There were quite a few of these noses produced for the crowd scenes, so keep that in mind.
MuppetDanny
08-18-2003, 02:32 PM
I am looking for any props from The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, The Neverending Story, any of the Muppet Movies or the Muppet Show. If anyone has some information where i might be able to locate something it would be helpful.
I found this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3342860943&category=790)
Hope it helps
beaker20
08-18-2003, 06:25 PM
About the Gonzo nose. I saw a dealer selling a similiar nose just the otherday for $150. I wanted to buy it but i could not get ahold of the dealer. So i checked the website again and it is no longer listed. I'm thinking that this dealer in London bought it and is now selling for it $400. I could be wrong but it is a possibility.
I've been watching that Labyrinth auction and i keep going back and forth on whether i want it or not. I did find out that alot of significant props from the movies i am looking for did not make it out of the shop. So i may have to settle for what i can find.
Muppetsdownunder
08-18-2003, 10:47 PM
The labyrinth axe looks like a better value buy than the gonzo nose. :)
beaker20
08-18-2003, 11:45 PM
Well the Gonzo nose interests me because it is a character item. I am hoping to collect screen used character props.The Labyrinth Ax is super cool but it's just a generic Ax. I am sill thinking about buying it though.
I found out something tonight that may be of interest to some of you. I was talking to a well known prop dealer and asked what else is out there besides what i already know. He told me that there are screen used mice from muppet treasure island, fraggle rock puppets and some other stuff that seemed really cool. The problem is that they are in private collections and not for sale. There is cool stuff abound, it's just a matter of finding it and prying it out of a collection.
Buck-Beaver
08-19-2003, 12:49 AM
I know none of the actual Muppets have ever gone up for sale (and they won't be anytime soon). I've also never heard of major character props being sold off either (doesn't mean they are not out there). Lots of other cool stuff has turned up though, including crew jackets and the aforementioned bus...
Not sure if this interests you, but Disney auctions off many of the props and minor puppets from their theme park shows. Alot of the Spitting Image puppets turn up regularly on ebay too.
beaker20
08-19-2003, 07:41 AM
I would be interested in the Spitting Image puppets and props. Do you know where i can find some? Right now te only thing of interest on ebay is the Labyrinth Ax.
Muppetsdownunder
08-19-2003, 07:41 AM
Well the Gonzo nose interests me because it is a character item. I am hoping to collect screen used character props.The Labyrinth Ax is super cool but it's just a generic Ax. I am sill thinking about buying it though.
He told me that there are screen used mice from muppet treasure island, fraggle rock puppets and some other stuff that seemed really cool. The problem is that they are in private collections and not for sale. There is cool stuff abound, it's just a matter of finding it and prying it out of a collection.
Everyone likes different things and is entitled to that. I would love to have some muppet/henson props or memorabilia like that.
I can imagine there would be some very rich people out there with huge collections of movie props etc and I don't think its right for them to have the muppet/henson items, They don't deserve it, only true muppet/henson fans and collectors should be allowed to have what little muppet/henson props etc that is available to the public, thats where it belongs and it should all go to fans, not just someone with loads of money. :)
beaker20
08-19-2003, 07:48 AM
I understand what you are saying, but who's to say they aren't fans? They maybe collectors who are Muppet fans who just happen to have loads of cash.
Muppetsdownunder
08-19-2003, 08:18 AM
I understand what you are saying, but who's to say they aren't fans? They maybe collectors who are Muppet fans who just happen to have loads of cash.
I thought the same thing right after I typed that. What an idiot I am, lol :p . But there are too many people out there who are only interested in collectibles or antiques or memorabilia just because of their value and the profit they can make, I have seen that many times, those are the people who don't deserve the muppet props, thats what I meant in the first post. :)
radionate
08-19-2003, 11:42 AM
Quite often a charity will recieve a Miss Piggy autographed glove to auction off. I've bid a few over the years, but always lose out. They are out there though.
beaker20
08-19-2003, 02:38 PM
I know there has to be lots cool props out in the collectors market. It's just a matter of finding the right people and timing. I have been looking like a madman for this stuff and it's actually alot of fun, so i don't think i will get discouraged.
BJC899
08-19-2003, 11:56 PM
The gonzo nose auction ended, and nobody bid.
:concern:
FYI: A while ago, this website, Costum Junkie (http://www.costumejunkie.com/), sold Ms.Piggys head.
www.costumejunkie.com/archives/misspiggy.jpg
beaker20
08-20-2003, 12:46 AM
That is a really cool piece. Do you know how much it sold for? Do you have any information on this piece?
BJC899
08-20-2003, 12:53 AM
That is a really cool piece. Do you know how much it sold for? Do you have any information on this piece?
I'm sorry, but I don't have any other information about this item. If you want, you could contact them.
Sorry! :mad:
Phillip Chapman
08-20-2003, 08:29 AM
I believe it sold on eBay for around $800-$900. The head was from the Muppets Take Manhattan.
Muppetsdownunder
08-20-2003, 08:38 AM
That would be a very nice item to have! Was it a part of a puppet of miss piggy or was it something else?
:)
beaker20
08-20-2003, 11:33 AM
I emailed the company regarding the Miss Piggy head so hopefully when i get home i will have some additional information. That piece is super cool and would look nice in my collection of movie memorabilia.
BJC899
08-24-2003, 09:17 PM
I emailed the company regarding the Miss Piggy head so hopefully when i get home i will have some additional information. That piece is super cool and would look nice in my collection of movie memorabilia.
What was the reslult of the email?
Did anyone else find any other props or stuff?
ToastCrumbs
09-02-2003, 02:32 PM
For the most part the really great Muppet props are owned by past Muppet employees. The Piggy head that I believe went for around $900 is the first time I've seen a flocked head. Although it is still an unfinished Piggy head it is worth a bit more due to the fact that it is further along or closer to being completed. When a foam rubber Piggy head comes out of its mold several steps are involved in taking it to completion. The flocking of the head is about the halfway mark. The price it went for is a bit low. I've seen foam rubber Piggy heads that are right out of the mold with no work done on them go for around $600-$800. The person who sold this flocked Piggy head maybe could have gotten between $1200-$2000. So the buyer shoud be extremely happy because it was a good deal. At this stage of building, Piggy's head has been snipped and patched up along the seems. She has also been lightly sprayed with an airbrush with a special mixture of tinted paint and glue, but the most valuable thing is that her mouth plate has been assembled and placed into the head along with here brain. This is what drives the price up. The more work that is done, the more craftsmenship is reveiled.
The closer the head gets to being camera ready the higher the price. If the head lets say had eyes or ears well you're talking $5,000, if it had both and all her makeup finished easily 10,000. Several things need to be remembered when looking at the $10,000 price of a finished Miss Piggy head. First you are dealing with a truly one of a kind prop, that was not made to be sold. She is not massed produced for fans to buy. The JHC does not allow these types of props out. It is an amazing piece of art work that is know all over the world, and I can assure you that if a finished Miss Piggy head does exist out there, that odds are there are only one or two.
So let me get back to the main subject which is buying authentic JHC or Muppet props. They are out there. I do know of several great ones, so here is a list of a few of them.
MUPPET LOVERS DREAM LIST:
Unfinished Gonzo head
Background Fraggle Puppet (Fraggle Rock)
Red Devil/ cabled controlled (The Storyteller)
Unfinished Clifford head
Unfinished Piggy head (foam rubber)
Goblin puppet Labyrinth (screen used)
Statler head (screen used/retired)
Waldorf head (screen used/retired)
Goblin head Labyrinth (screen used)
Kermit puppet (screen used/retired)
Doozer (screen used)
Muppet WhatNot head
These are some of the higher end props that I know of, and believe me they are all priceless. For those of you who like me grew up with Jim Henson and his wonderful Muppets the dream to own any of these is high up on our Muppet list. But for those who are not yet making endless amounts of money here are some smaller Muppet treasures that would make us just as happy to own.
Set of Gover hands (screen used/retired)
1 unfinished Statler hand (foam rubber)
Unfinished Ghost of Christmas Present hand/arm
Unfinished mini Cat in the Hat head
There are some more and I'll get around to posting them soon. :)
radionate
09-02-2003, 02:46 PM
I know that the JHC made a Muppet Christmas Tree back in the 80's for a charity auction. I remember seeing it on Good Morning America, and wanting it so bad. It was amazing. Just picture a talking Muppet Christmas Tree!
I often wonder who won the auction and where it is today.
Warrick
09-02-2003, 03:11 PM
John Hurt has one of the red devials from The Storyteller in his house. It is attached the top corner of the wall in one of his rooms. it looks great too.
see ya
beaker20
09-02-2003, 10:33 PM
That is quite a list of Muppet props. It's nice to see a list of some of the Muppet stuff that is out there. I am looking forward to seeing another list of additonal props.
thanks
Jrogers75
09-04-2003, 02:10 AM
I called Henson Productions in the mid 90's looking for places to buy Muppets, the ones like on the Muppet show.
I was told that they hang onto everything muppet related. Saw something from a book I think of huge metal filing cabinets, labled on one drawer was eyes, and another one that said Gonzo.
Althought I think there is some misconseption on her part because I recall as a child on a road trip "early 80's" a small mom and pop restuerant we ate at, they had the whole electric mayhem band with insturmants and prop roped of in the back.
I would love to hear if anyone else has seen this.... I know it was not a dream, I remember seeing it... darn I wish I was older so I could have had more memory of detail !
Muppetsdownunder
09-05-2003, 08:32 PM
That must have been a dream come true to see that! :excited:
Erine81981
09-05-2003, 09:47 PM
So what do ya'll normelly write when wanting to find these things on EBay? Like Piggy puppet head. (Example)
Muppetsdownunder
09-07-2003, 04:47 AM
So what do ya'll normelly write when wanting to find these things on EBay? Like Piggy puppet head. (Example)
Well, just do a search for "muppets" in the movie memorabilia section or something like that, its easy to find what you are looking for. :)
Jrogers75
09-07-2003, 04:42 PM
This maybe of the topic but I did find an orginal screener in 35mm film of Muppets Take Manhatten http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3346156090&category=32992
Check it out...... Its weird :concern:
Muppetsdownunder
09-07-2003, 09:43 PM
This maybe of the topic but I did find an orginal screener in 35mm film of Muppets Take Manhatten http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3346156090&category=32992
Check it out...... Its weird :concern:
Wow, that would be great. Boy they have some great and unusual stuff on ebay! All you need now is equipment to play it. I have seen a few times an actual film print for the muppet movie it was a big 35mm roll and I think they also bought out an 8mm version for people who have super 8 projectors. :) The DVD is a little easier! :p
xoxpussycatxox
11-20-2003, 09:59 AM
It is soooooo difficult to find props. There used to be Fandom Auctions that was amazing. thats where Jareths mask was auctioned off, and a goblins helmet and Jareths gauntlets. The annoying thing is, I ended up buying the helmet and 1 gauntlet off the guy for more than he payed. He sold the gauntlets off seperately which is terrible, but I had to buy them because it is so rare to come across props, so Im lucky in some respects. I have a Sir Didymus toy, the original colour test sheets for the 1st Comic book, erm, the video,DVD, LP,CD, German Lobby cards, European original poster, photo's, signed Goblins of Labyrinth by Brian Froud, Japanese flyers and Cinema Programme, replica of Jareths Pendant, I made a replica of the ballgown with the wig etc and Ive made Sarah and Jareth Ballroom scene dolls which are in their own display case. I think thats everything. But as props go, if you find any, buy em, don't ponder, just buy, cos its so hard to find anything. Make sure they have a COA with them to. Im forever keeping my eye out but to no avail. Be careful of that Hoggle's Prop Head that's floating around Ebay. Obvious fake!
FISH'N'WOLFE
11-21-2003, 01:01 AM
Just thought I'd throw this in, I know for a fact through a fellow member of the Connecticut Puppetry Guild that a guy in Manchester CT is obtaining a lot of the sets from past Henson productions such as Dog City etc., straight from the company very easily.
Muppetsdownunder
11-21-2003, 09:37 PM
Wow! What a lucky guy! I hope he doesnt destroy them or anything and keeps them intact.
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