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Muppets1985
05-23-2002, 12:58 PM
If Disney does get Henson/Muppets ( i HOPE to god, that thay DO !!!) that disney puts these show back on.....

Muppet babies - on Play House Disney
Bear in the BIG blue house - on Play House Disney
Fraggle Rock cartoon - on Play House Disney
The Muppet Show - on Disney Channel/abc Family
Fraggle Rock - on abc Family
Story Teller - weekends on Disney channel or abc Family
Muppets tonight - Zoog Disney channel
Animal show - on Play House Disney
Jim Henson Hour - abc family
...etc etc etc...


....and Muppet movies like... MFC, MTI, MCC, TMM, TGMC, M@WW and other a spechels on abc family, abc, and Disney channel

BoyRaisin2
05-23-2002, 03:48 PM
Capitalize God, dude. :)

scarecroe
05-23-2002, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by BoyRaisin2
Capitalize God, dude. :) In the interest of freedom of religion, perhaps his "god" is not capitalized. Not trying to start a religion war, just an observation... as was your comment :)

BoyRaisin2
05-23-2002, 03:57 PM
Well, he really doesn't capitalize a lot of words, and...hey how about them Lakers!

scarecroe
05-23-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by BoyRaisin2
and...hey how about them Lakers! Lakers! Yes!

Lakers.... Lakers.... are they like, the Navy little leagues or something?

BoyRaisin2
05-23-2002, 04:34 PM
Lakers. 'Nuff said.

And speaking of 'Muppets' and 'religion,' how about that "Odyssey," huh? There was so much hope with that network...

yep

Salmoto
05-23-2002, 07:06 PM
Well it was nice being able to see Fraggle Rock in the morning and The Muppet Show in the afternoon. Even if I had to wade through reruns of Doogie Howser and Alf. Plus, one of the Odyssey interstitials was the only time I saw Pepe do a performance without Seymour.

frogboy4
05-23-2002, 08:38 PM
Unfortunately there is no ABC Family Channel or Zoog Channel in the San Francisco market unless you get a dish. I have considered it, because even the expanded cable here bites. You just get more home shopping channels and HBO in different time zones etc. We never even got Odyssey and we still don't get Cartoon Network. What a jip! I hope that if those programs were to be played, they go on the Disney Channel. There's a lot of underwhelming programming on there and I think the Muppets could certainly improve the channel. Just my ideas.

BoyRaisin2
05-24-2002, 09:26 AM
Or possibly even put many of the Henson productions on ABC Family. If people see all of the "award-winning, critically-acclaimed" Muppet Shows (and shows) on there, it could help them get greater ratings. We can hope. :-)

scarecroe
05-24-2002, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by BoyRaisin2
If people see all of the "award-winning, critically-acclaimed" Muppet Shows (and shows) on there, it could help them get greater ratings. We can hope. :-) Yeah, and heck... what a concept: actually *airing* "The Muppet Show" on TV so people can watch it during the 25th Anniversary year!

frogboy4
05-24-2002, 12:02 PM
I have thought of that too. I guess they're trying to sell the DVDs. It's just unfortunate that most people are being alienated from seeing these gems.

Salmoto
05-24-2002, 03:24 PM
Well another potential buyer is Viacom. That'd be cool too if the Muppets were on VH1 or Nickelodeon. I would prefer either they or Warners get the licence since those companies own several cable networks and surely they can put a Muppet series on one of them. If Disney gets it, then there's a chance they'll own the Muppets but won't open up the schedule on their one network for reruns.

frogboy4
05-24-2002, 03:57 PM
In Disney's defense (I can't beilieve I am defending Disney) they do have more channels than just the Disney channel, but they are not available in some markets (like San Francisco). They are pretty open to changing their line-up too. They have played Muppets Tonight and Fraggle Rock on their network so I certainly don't see them objecting to bumping a few things from their current lineup to make room for it. I'd also suspect that they would promote it heavily. They did give MT some pretty good promotions when it hit the Disney Channel. They are also very accepting of including classic/vintage prigramming.

That being said, WB and Viacom are also great alternatives. When it comes to longevity, they likely have a better deal with the Mouse. They tend to maintain their catalog of characters more so than other companies. And they have the park. I was pulling for AOL Time Warner for the longest time, but I'm not so sure these days. Even though I have many problems with Disney, I still feel they might be the Muppets best shot.

Muppets1985
05-24-2002, 04:48 PM
well here are ALL the channel's Disney owns...

Disney Channel
Toon Disney
ABC
ABC Family
ESPN
ESPN 2
ESPN Classic (and ALL other ESPN's)
Life Time (partly owned)
Life Time Movie Network (partly own)
Soap Net
E! tv (partly owned)
A&E (party owned)
History Channel (partly owned)

frogboy4
05-24-2002, 05:38 PM
These are the channels you listed that are available in my area.

Disney Channel
ABC
ESPN
Lifetime
E! tv (only 1/2 of the day, the other half is the Chinese news)
A&E (party owned)

This is a difficult market, but the cable here seems to only cater to small segments of the population than they do for everybody in order to be PC. Kind of crummy, so I may have to get the dish someday...when I'm not so poor. I hope if things are ever bought by Disney that they will be played mostly on the Diney Channel and re-run on its other networks because many markets will be losing out. I think they really may want to have this stuff on their flagship channel, but this is all jumping the gun in the first place. ;)

BoyRaisin2
05-24-2002, 06:45 PM
Disney also owns part of the "style" network through E! Networks. To see Miss Piggy on that! :-)

Man, glad I don't live in San Francisco.

Also, it's "kind of" a different (in other words, ZOOGIFIED) Disney Channel than when MT was on there. Yet, they have recently played MTI and MFS on Zoog Primetime, and it seems that the channel could still be prone to playing Henson stuff. Whether it's classic episodes of "The Muppet Show" or EVEN that short-lived UPN sitcom "Family Rules" (remember that?), I don't know. But who knows? If Disney goes all out paying $200 million+ for the Henson library, I'm sure they'd go out of their way to put these programs on whatever venue they can, PARTICULARLY (in my mind) ABC Family. I'm not sure if Disney is still planning to launch that 24-hour "Playhouse Disney" channel they announced a year ago, but if they ARE, it'd be an almost guaranteed venue for Muppet shows, MUCH of which is aimed at preschoolers.

I'm all excited now. :-) Hopefully, one day, an in-depth Jim Henson documentary on ABC!

frogboy4
05-24-2002, 06:52 PM
On the upside, you can't beat San Francisco weather and the fact that everything is like a 20 minute walk away. Very cool. :)

BoyRaisin2
05-24-2002, 07:01 PM
Are there earthquakes?

frogboy4
05-24-2002, 07:22 PM
um, yeah, but not very big ones for a long time. And not very often. I have learned to ignore them. :D

Wozza Fraggle
05-25-2002, 07:13 AM
I cant believe there are so many Disney Channels in the US !

We only have Playhouse Disney, Toon Disney, Disney Channel and Disney Channel +1 !

I wonder if they would also Broadcast the stuff from the Libraries on our channels too ?

See ya

BoyRaisin2
05-25-2002, 10:45 AM
Well, those are the REAL Disney Channels, the others are Disney's "non-Disney" channels, I guess you can say. But Disney owns 100% of the ABC and Disney Channels, and significant stakes in the others, and, oh, you know how Disney is!