Petition for TMS Season 5 to be reaired on Disney

[muppetzfan20]

Hello. I'm new to the forums here. I think that they should re-air season 5 of the Muppet Show on Disney Channel USA like they did for Disney Channel UK. Who agrees?:confused:

[Forg]

When did they show The Muppet Show in the UK?

Can't believe I missed that!:concern:

[ZeppoAndFriends]

WELCOME TO THE WACKY WAGON! :crazy:

I agree! :eek:

[mikebennidict]

Hello. I'm new to the forums here. I think that they should re-air season 5 of the Muppet Show on Disney Channel USA like they did for Disney Channel UK. Who agrees?:confused:

Why would you just limit it to season 5 considering that TMS isn't being shown at all?

[minor muppetz]

I think it should be all five seasons, not just the last one. Just because three seasons are available on DVD doesn't mean that only the unreleased ones should be aired (because then there'd be too many repeats, unless they are weekend airings). Of course, the fifth season is the best one not on DVD.

[ohtherain]

All of them should be reaired! Any Disney-owned Henson program should be aired on DC. Except Studio DC and a couple of Channel IDs, there is no Muppets on the channel. All they during the day is:
Phineas and Ferb
Suite Life
Suite Life on Deck
Hannah Montana
Wizards of Waverly Place
That's So Raven
Sonny with A Chance
JONAS

That's a very wimpy show list, considering that Playhouse Disney runs from 6-12 weekdays and 6-11 weekends and they have more shows than that. It's a shame that they don't show anything (aside from one rarely-used Channel ID) with Mickey Mouse any more.

[Drtooth]

All of them should be reaired! Any Disney-owned Henson program should be aired on DC. Except Studio DC and a couple of Channel IDs, there is no Muppets on the channel. All they during the day is:
Phineas and Ferb
Suite Life
Suite Life on Deck
Hannah Montana
Wizards of Waverly Place
That's So Raven
Sonny with A Chance
JONAS

That's a very wimpy show list, considering that Playhouse Disney runs from 6-12 weekdays and 6-11 weekends and they have more shows than that. It's a shame that they don't show anything (aside from one rarely-used Channel ID) with Mickey Mouse any more.

I could go on and on about how bullocks the Disney channel is, catering to one specific, fiercely specific focus group. Let's just say this.... the shows are popular, and I can respect that to some degree. But showing only those 8 shows over and over and over? There's no reason why they have to bulldoze everything else they own and have to keep pushing them. One episode... 2 episodes a day of each, fine.

But I'm not going deeper than that. There are a LOT of great places TMS could be rerun, and we're not getting it. Whether Disney is holding out to get every episode on DVD or not (something they did with Spider-Man and X-Men that really ticked Marvel off... but in reverse, thinking ratings won't be good if DVD's are released.)... I think places like TVLand, ABC Family, even PBS would be great places to put it... Couldn't you just see TMS on PBS Saturday Nights before they show Britcoms?

But there aren't even that many resources for reruns (unless you have odd DTV channels, like I do. I watched part of Jack Benny this morning... no fooling). Seems everyone wants new or original programming, and reruns are delegated to shows that are still on the air or ones that have recently been canceled (no matter how unpopular they are).

Best thing to do is to wait the 2-4 years it could take to release season 5. These stupid music rights headaches are what's keeping us from having the full series by now.

[JEANYLASER]

I will sign anything to bring back the Muppet show season 5 to Disney!

[frogboy4]

Music Television (MTV) doesn't play music videos. The Cartoon Network is turning into kids reality programming. And the Disney Channel only plays tween kid shows. It's all about advertising dollars and moving merchandise and there's nothing graceful about it. It all just seems terribly rude to me. But then again millions of people will tune in to watch scantily clad folk eat bugs on a deserted island in order to win a million dollars. This is why television is on life support.

Bring on the Muppets! What ever happened to those technology ads they were going to do on DC?

[rexcrk]

I actually like the Disney Channel tween "crap" :p Especially Hannah Montana... Wizards is a great show too. Oh and Phineas and Ferb is fantastic.

But anyway, I would like them to play Muppet stuff too! That'd be awesome! And then I could record the episodes from season 1 with missing musical numbers on my own DVD so I could preserve them in DVD format.

(Oh and for the record, I LOVED the studio DC specials, but I guess only 'cause I love the Disney Channel shows :insatiable: )

[Drtooth]

I actually like the Disney Channel tween "crap" :p Especially Hannah Montana... Wizards is a great show too. Oh and Phineas and Ferb is fantastic.


Yes, but it shouldn't be ALL they do. Forget the Muppets... the only way Mickey, Goofy, and Donald can be on the Disney channel (Disney would have been NOTHING without these characters. They helped him launch the empire, you know) is to shove them on a hideous looking CGI Dora clone.

And yes, Frogboy is dead on... these networks used to cater specifically to one group, now they feel the need to go after the everyone else, killing their channels in the progress, and having these disconnected people run these networks IS making them lose ratings, by alienating their fan bases, and not aquiring everybody else, because everybody else is watching everything else.

When there's no variety, then what's the point of having multiple channels?

[Traveling Matt]

I don’t think they’re losing ratings. This format is the only way to compete these days. That’s exactly the problem with television. With so many channels to choose from (plus other viewing options such as the internet taking away more eyes), cable stations are forced to expand beyond their origins and show all styles of programming in the hopes of drawing people’s attention. Despite the fact there are more channels than ever before.

We may like to see older material, but the vast majority of people don’t. Putting that stuff on the air is a risk, frankly. The best way to stay competitive and reduce the risk of losing money is to do the same thing everyone else does and not take chances. Much like mainstream movies.

[Drtooth]

I don’t think they’re losing ratings. This format is the only way to compete these days. That’s exactly the problem with television. With so many channels to choose from (plus other viewing options such as the internet taking away more eyes), cable stations are forced to expand beyond their origins and show all styles of programming in the hopes of drawing people’s attention. Despite the fact there are more channels than ever before.

We may like to see older material, but the vast majority of people don’t. Putting that stuff on the air is a risk, frankly. The best way to stay competitive and reduce the risk of losing money is to do the same thing everyone else does and not take chances. Much like mainstream movies.

It works about 60 or 70 % of the time. CN steadily lost ratings when they tried the live action format the first time, and they canned plans for more shows until recently. Out of Jimmy's Head was a flop, copying Nick Jr. and Playhouse Disney (Tickle U, right?) was a flop.... and I doubt everyone's watching the lame movies from the 80's-2003 time table. CN lost its roots ever since they had to kick out the guy who did that LCD Mooninte crap. They've gone through several network execs, none of them even stayed their for long. If CN wants to be competitive, it has to be itself.

Disney, on the other hand, is successful. A little too successful, and there's no room for expanding back to Disney programming.

[Muppet Loverr]

i would love to osee that...it would bee pretty darn cool..

[Nick22]

i think they should re air all the seasons! starting with season one

[Teheheman]

As much as I HATE to say it, I think that the Muppet Show is NEVER going to be shown on regular TV again. Not even on TV Land. Why? Because I think that they think that they will lose a group of people if they change their schedule or sacrifice a show in order to put the Muppet Show on the schedule. Although, I agree that 18 hours of Hannah Montana is a little much, but CMT/VH1 don't play many music videos anymore. It's almost like the stuff that MTV doesn't have time for. I think that TV channels are showing the same things because they think that that is what people wanna see even though most people just wanna see THAT show, and not 45 copycat shows. There's more to this thought, but I'm sure that everybody else has already said what I wanna say. I just didn't wanna repeat the same dang thing over and over again.

Daniel

[muppet baby]

I actually like the Disney Channel tween "crap" :p Especially Hannah Montana... Wizards is a great show too. Oh and Phineas and Ferb is fantastic.

But anyway, I would like them to play Muppet stuff too! That'd be awesome! And then I could record the episodes from season 1 with missing musical numbers on my own DVD so I could preserve them in DVD format.

(Oh and for the record, I LOVED the studio DC specials, but I guess only 'cause I love the Disney Channel shows :insatiable: )

I am with you , I love Hanna Montana as well .

One of my favorite shows .

I love the Disney Channel in general , i do agree though that they should show more then , those same show line up over and over again .

I totally agree that they they should run the entire 5 seasons of the Muppet Show on the Disney channel even if they do put out all 5 seasons on DVD .

I miss the good old days of Disney when you also had some great Disney movies running a lot to on the Disney Channel , along with the good old Disney cartoons and also THE MUPPET BABIES running there to .

I hope that they do run all 5 seasons of the Muppet Show at some point on the Disney channel , and then also get back to putting some great Disney cartoons back on the channel .

[Drtooth]

I think that TV channels are showing the same things because they think that that is what people wanna see even though most people just wanna see THAT show, and not 45 copycat shows. There's more to this thought, but I'm sure that everybody else has already said what I wanna say. I just didn't wanna repeat the same dang thing over and over again.

Daniel

My thoughts exactly. Let's say, to stay "competitive" with CSI, someone makes an exact, to the letter clone of it. Nothing all that different. What are more people going to see? The ACTUAL CSI. That's how cable wants to work now. there's 3 basic shows. The "Cartoons are for kids, so let's watch a more grown up cartoonish, actually more juvenile pop star try to act," "Reality TV show that's so trashy that people watch it ironically,*" and "Hey, there's Sopranos. Remember Sopranos? And Sex in the City! We can make shows that get that much buzz... REALLY. Just ignore the multiple references to the word movie in our channel's logo."

Since everything's switching over to digital, and that takes up a lot less room than analogue, I WANT to see new cable channels spring out of CN and AMC that actually show what they're supposed to. It's all this instant society. Everything has to be an instant hit... and frankly, instant hits usually peter out quite quickly. Look at Spongebob and Seinfeld. They were hardly successful the first couple of years, and they both exploded to become pop culture phenoms. No one wants that commitment anymore.

* People who watch reality TV shows ironically are like people that buy books to burn them. You're STILL supporting them. They don't give a fig why you watch, to either mock it, watch it to see how terrible it is, you're watching and that's only benificial to them.

[minor muppetz]

I just had a thought. Although reruns of The Muppet Show have been shown in other countries, could it be possible that Disney is waiting for all of the seasosn to be reelased and restored before broadcasting them on television in america? So that TV reruns would look as good as the DVD releases?

[MelissaY1]

Personally, I'd rather have Disney put their energies into getting the rest of The Muppet Show seasons out on DVD then on a cable network.

The good old days of cable are gone, my friends. :( I remember being so excited when we first got it back in 1987 and loving every minute of it and now like others here have said they have tried to switch their programming to go after different age groups and whatnot.

Heck even TV Land has some dopey reality shows on it now, etc. This is why when I DO watch television these days it's either baseball games during the on season or DVDs of movies and T.V. shows that used to be on that I enjoyed.....

[Drtooth]

could it be possible that Disney is waiting for all of the seasosn to be reelased and restored before broadcasting them on television in america? So that TV reruns would look as good as the DVD releases?

I doubt they would have TV reruns anyway, but as I said, Disney did quite the opposite thing with the Saban Marvel comics shows of the 90's..... denying DVD releases of the properties, as they would take away the ratings for the reruns on Toon Disney. IF, and this is hypothetical, Disney was considering rerunning the show somewhere, they'd feel that the reruns would cut into DVD sales. And also, we have to consider, what you stated, they're in the process of restoring them and also getting music rights. We know what a pain those rights are, considering that's why we have to wait another year for season 4.

[LStein]

Hello. I'm new to the forums here. I think that they should re-air season 5 of the Muppet Show on Disney Channel USA like they did for Disney Channel UK. Who agrees?:confused:

I need some episodes. I was wondering if you could please help me out. Most of them are from Seasons 1-3, but I have a different set. If you have the ones I'm looking for, I would be really interested. :)

[Redsonga]

I wish Disney would air their trip to Disneyworld if nothing else :3. While it is a tiny bit dated, shows like Full House and Roseanne still show their trips from around the same time on tv with no troubles or rioting :)...Not even mixing in the fact that it was basically the first Disney/Muppets mix and it is just a really good Muppet tv movie :D.
If they can afford to rerun the same episodes of the new live action teen shows that even a diehard fan of them has seen five times (and is bored of) I think it is high time they show some muppety love:)!

[Drtooth]

If they can afford to rerun the same episodes of the new live action teen shows that even a diehard fan of them has seen five times (and is bored of) I think it is high time they show some muppety love:)!

Once they actually show something that actually made Disney famous, I'd tend to think they'd show something Muppety down the road.

[JEANYLASER]

I want to see the Muppet show in Disney Channel now Please! I love the Muppets!

[Redsonga]

Once they actually show something that actually made Disney famous, I'd tend to think they'd show something Muppety down the road.

Like even just their short cartoons like they use to with Donald Duck Presents?:)

[Zack the Dog]

Like even just their short cartoons like they use to with Donald Duck Presents?

Donald Duck presents! Wild and wacky quacking! Donald Duck presents! Stories and fun! Donald Duck presents! Music and laughter! From the one and only one! Donald Duck presents! Nananananana!
oh I miss good TV.

[theprawncracker]

I want to see the Muppet show in Disney Channel now Please! I love the Muppets!
Really? I find the Muppets deplorable. I much prefer the Mop-Pits.

[Drtooth]

Like even just their short cartoons like they use to with Donald Duck Presents?:)

Walt Disney didn't build an entertainment empire on a couple bland Monkees clones. As successful as those shows are, there is no call for all day marathons of the same 5 shows. Say what you will about him, say what you will about who really created Mickey (Ub Iwerks, thank you)... Mickey, Donald and Goofy ARE Disney. You could at least play short shorts during the show's intermissions. We need another House of Mouse/Mouse Works.

[Teheheman]

Yeah, I mean, it's not like the acting on any of these shows are any good anyways. I've seen better acting staring at my dead goldfish. Just put an episode on at least once between Hannah Montana and Jonas, or better yet, have an Old School day on Disney where you show all the old stuff you used to have. Such as Under the Umbrella Tree, Welcome to Pooh Corner with that bald guy with the mustache? That was one of my favorites, and then top it off with some tributes to both Mickey Mouse Clubs, the Muppet Show, an old Original Disney Movie and you're good. Oh, and also show a half hour of old Disney cartoons, that wouldn't hurt either. You can show the one where Donald, Goofy, and Mickey are driving around in that old camper, and it goes out of control, or some of the old Goofy instructional cartoons, like the wide world of sports stuff. Anyways, what I'm saying is don't forget about the old stuff cause Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers won't be cool forever.

Daniel

[frogboy4]

The question is if Disney or anyone can cultivate a audience of jaded kids that are so used to junk food television? I'm sure it's possible, but I don't think any company sees incentive in working that hard when they can just create another sure-fire kid-pop brand.

[Redsonga]

Well, even back in the day our generation had Kids Inc. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOxkMsBVqlM) on Disney Channel and we weren't too jaded to like the classic shows because of it :\
I guess that is why I still have hope :)

[Teheheman]

The thing is, every generation has that kind of pop band, so you can't stop it. My parents generation had the Monkees, ours had NSYNC, this one has The Jonas Brothers, and the next one will have like 4 year olds singing and making really bad jokes with a laugh track at the end of just about every one making it seem like it's a funny fricken show when it's just stupid.

Daniel

[Redsonga]

I didn't mean hope that those bands would ever stop, I just meant hope that if little ones actually saw the classic things more often they could grow to like them like we did...

I think one of the biggest things is that, like the Mokey plushie, older things like the muppets (even the newer 80's-90's movies) aren't even given a chance to be seen before they are stuffed in a drawer somewhere :\.

Of course there are we muppet fans with all things muppety that share them with everyone we know but I feel sorry for those that have nothing but whatever tv decides to show :(

[Drtooth]

Yeah, I mean, it's not like the acting on any of these shows are any good anyways. I've seen better acting staring at my dead goldfish. Just put an episode on at least once between Hannah Montana and Jonas

I'm just sayin, much as I hate these shows, they do have a right to exist, be popular, and make money. They do not have the right to pollute the network, pollute the minds of executives of other networks, or have the Wal*Mart factor... you know, when something becomes so big, it's impossible to compete. An hour of each program a day is fine and dandy...one episode in the afternoon, one in prime time and all that. Not all day except for the preschool 3 hour market.

The question is if Disney or anyone can cultivate a audience of jaded kids that are so used to junk food television?

I wouldn't even call it Junk Food television. In fact, I'd refer to it as... well, if you look at the food stuff they promote... sugar coated granola bars, sugar flavored yogurts... they're more like Junk Food disguised as health Food disguised as junk food programs... mindless little diversions slapped with a fake forced morals to get an undeserved TV E/I rating so parents think it's good for their kids to watch. Frankly, I heard better morals in South Park...

The thing is, every generation has that kind of pop band, so you can't stop it. My parents generation had the Monkees, ours had NSYNC, this one has The Jonas Brothers, and the next one will have like 4 year olds singing and making really bad jokes with a laugh track at the end of just about every one making it seem like it's a funny fricken show when it's just stupid.

Every generation will have a stupid and annoying fad to it. Though, frankly the Monkees were quite fun.... I especially like Mickey when he does voice over roles... anyway... There will always be this kind of crap. The problem is, back in the older days, even with the prerequisite clones they still had alternatives that ran along side them. Even 15 years back when Saban brought Power Rangers to the rest of the world... Saban did its best to copy it with Beetlborgs, Kamen Rider (a really bad Americanized Kamen Rider- oh and KR existed long before the earliest PR show), VR Troopers and Samurai Pizza Cats (which they actually got the rights to dubbing long before they got the rights to PR, but it didn't get to air until 96)... there were like 2 syndicated copies... Superhuman Cyber Samurai Squad, and an Ultraman they made clearly to cash in off of PR, dispite the fact Ultraman predates it. Even when Hanna Barbera and Filmation did the teenagers singing random songs and solving mysteries Archies clones, they still made other shows. But in this case, it's all they want to do. I don't hate them for their bad singing, bad acting, undeserved popularity et al... I hate them for the lack of variety, and forcing other networks to conform.