Fraggle Pairings

[Redsonga]

Since the other topic on this is as old a doozer towers made out of mushrooms I decided to start a new one : ).

Everyone probably knows I ship Cantus/Mokey as well as Mokey/Boober (not only because both work to me but because Cantus is much older, and it seems more realistic that way. I don't see many characters re-marry in...any fandom really O.o).
Mokey and Boober just makes me melt into a gooey puddle:flirt:

I am also a great follower of the Red/Gobo faith :3. They fight so well their love would have a passion behind it I think :).

For Wembley..I will leave that one unsaid for now:coy:.

Other pairings I support that I have never seen anywhere else have to be old! Uncle Matt/ old! Storyteller Harriet, Murray/Brio and, my favorite, Marlon/Tosh (trust me, it is cuter than it sounds^.^)

[alyteima]

Y'know, I don't mind if people pair up the fraggles, the potential is certainly there and I love other Muppet pairings like Kermie and Piggy :flirt: But I don't like it when the pairings override the friendship aspect which it so often does. That's just me, I've always preferred friendship fics to romantic ones though pairing fics are way more popular in any fandom.

Heaven knows I adore your fics because you actually walk that fine line between friendship and pairings, without leaving one or the other out (snorgles sweet, love-lorn Wembley, heh) but so many authors can't walk that line. So I guess I'd rather just have plain old friendship.

I agree with Gobo and Red, the passion and competition always makes me laugh. Mokey? Hmm, I can see her with Boober because of the affection you always see in the series. But Boober and Tosh is cute too, or Wembley and Lou, hee.

Its all adorable:D

[RedPiggy]

Hm...

In terms of just the show, Red/Gobo and Mokey/Boober are the most obvious. I've been watching the earlier seasons of my new complete set and forgot just how blatant both relationships were. I'm entertained with Matt/Storyteller ... but Matt is basically Ash Ketchum ... he couldn't requite a relationship if his life depended on it. ;) Also, and I know I disgusted Redsonga with this idea (so I'll do it again, LOL), but I bet Convincing John gets more than just backup singing with the Fragglettes (ROFL). And the only pair with overt marriage is Ma and Pa. As often as they "frolic", I'm surprised Junior doesn't have a dozen siblings by the end of the series. :)

Now, outside of the more obvious ones, I like Wembley and Tosh ... though I think they're both too young for serious relationships. I had also been a big supporter of Doc/Ardath.

[bazooka_beak]

I think Red and Gobo's relationship is hilariously awesome (they are so determined to one-up the other in anything under the rock ;)), and I'm more than open to it becoming, as some would say, "something more." I have this really annoying habit of pairing characters up even when I don't mean to :P

For some reason I have difficulty pairing Wembley up with anyone. I think he'd be best suited for an "outside" Fraggle that we haven't met.

[Redsonga]

Also, and I know I disgusted Redsonga with this idea (so I'll do it again, LOL), but I bet Convincing John gets more than just backup singing with the Fragglettes (ROFL).

Ack! ACK! Unclean..unclean O.o! It's not that I have anything against the pairing (Gorgs a little part of me thinks that Brio is with both Murray and Brool, being as I have this reasoning about fraggle culture that I can't talk about here I don't think) it's just..The good thing about having a good imagination..you can picture things in detail..the bad thing..you can picture things in detail O.o

Heaven knows I adore your fics because you actually walk that fine line between friendship and pairings, without leaving one or the other out (snorgles sweet, love-lorn Wembley, heh) but so many authors can't walk that line. So I guess I'd rather just have plain old friendship.
I've always thought that you don't have to give up one for another, and unlike humans fraggles hearts seem bigger and more able to be filled with all levels of feeling at the same time without missing a beat :).
*hee* Poor Wembley. The last story in my series is being written pretty much just for him :).
I've been watching the earlier seasons of my new complete set and forgot just how blatant both relationships were.
I actually was not a follower of the Mokey/Boober until I started to really notice just about everywhere in the show itself...Red and Gobo may kiss now and then, but Boober is pretty much glued to Mokey everytime they are in a group together when she talks. It is just so darling :3! And it is not just like with Wembley where she is a mother figure, you can really feel an extra layer of something there :3.

[bazooka_beak]

I actually was not a follower of the Mokey/Boober until I started to really notice just about everywhere in the show itself...Red and Gobo may kiss now and then, but Boober is pretty much glued to Mokey everytime they are in a group together when she talks. It is just so darling :3! And it is not just like with Wembley where she is a mother figure, you can really feel an extra layer of something there :3.

So, they kissed more than once? I only remember that one episode where Red kisses Gobo on the cheek, and he goes "Wow!" :3

If anything rewatching the episodes (I got the complete set for my birthday so I got the urge to do so) is making me see how touchy-feely the Fraggles can be with each other (or in the "main five" at least). They're constantly touching each other on the back, or hugging, or some such.

[Redsonga]

Oh yes, it was more than once...and I think fraggles are just naturally touchy, most of all if they grew up together (which I think the main five did :3)

[heralde]

Personally, I'd like to see Mokey and Junior have some more interaction to see what happens. I know the age was off, but they had a sort of nurturing connection, lol.

[bazooka_beak]

That would be kind of cute :)

I wonder why there aren't any other Gorgs around? There's Junior and his family, but they claim there's nobody around for them to "rule." So where are the others? Miles away in some kind of Gorg city, while they live in the "countryside"?

[heralde]

I always thought of it as the Gorgs went exist but Pa and Ma Gorg are just too clueless to accept the reality that their rule is over.

[Redsonga]

Personally, I'd like to see Mokey and Junior have some more interaction to see what happens. I know the age was off, but they had a sort of nurturing connection, lol.

It's not so much a pairing to me, but an AU story where Mokey adopts Junior as a baby (or child) would be..something :eek:

I think there are other gorgs in the world, but they are so few and far apart that two meeting to get together is rare :(

[RedPiggy]

I think other Gorgs exist (because it's really too depressing to think of them as the last 3). Either they live far away or they ran out of radishes and became invisible. Or they live in our world as random bigfoots/sasquatches.

I think that in reality, Pa and Ma are retired rulers ... he just kept the crowns as heirlooms. That would explain a lot.

I like Mokey + Junior as well (though it makes me shudder to imagine what THAT must be like). I have a hard time seeing them as parent/child like relationships. Yes, I know Junior ACTS like a child ... but ... he still outranks Mokey in age.

[Redsonga]

I just meant if he had been born around the time of the series...anyway, I think gorgs age much slower, while the oldest fraggle (to me) would be about around 200 years old...Which makes the whole idea very sad :(. I like writing sad stories, but I don't think I could write one that got that depressing...

[bazooka_beak]

I thought the ruling thing was all in their heads? Like, they thought so highly of themselves they made themselves rulers of that uninhabited area :P That was always my impression. It does give them a "last of our kind" vibe but I still wondered if they just lived far away from others.

Back on topic, I'd approve of a Boober/Mokey pairing, if it happened. It just seems like Mokey would be good for mellowing him out. If you paired him up with, say, Red, she'd be way too much for him to deal with and just make his "everything is OUT TO KILL ME!" problem worse ;)

[Redsonga]

I think the ruling thingie was/is real. They have too much history and culture to fall back on for it not to be....

Boober and Red really don't have much in common. While Boober was able to get along with he when they thought they were going to die (because he is actually really strong when looking death in the face) it didn't look like something that would last.
With Mokey and Boober they seem to understand one another day to day without needing any drama. She mellows him out but also doesn't force him to change..I think that is love :). And Boober sort of keeps Mokey grounded a bit but at the same time gives her someone to look after who sees the world on the more serious level to (because she seems to deep down have a darker artistic side, writing poems about death, etc). At least, that is how I see it :). My unofficial theme song for Mokey/Boober :3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55rasuh3VfQ)

As for Red and Gobo's fighting all the time (which someone said before means they would not make a good couple) I actually think that even though they would still fight it is all just in a playful way. And I think Gobo as he gets older would mellow a little and just know when to let Red go off on her newest hobby/sport/rant at times. This is actually my guilty pleasure shipping theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXPKNiUFPls) for them (I have been thinking of putting a tiny bit of it of it in Wild Winds as 'their song' *lol*)

[alyteima]

*hee* Poor Wembley. The last story in my series is being written pretty much just for him :).

HUZZAH! *Jumps for joy* I'm still working on my fic (eats fraggle fic like a Gorg with garlic gumdrops)

I like the Mokey mothering aspect, but I don't see much romance.

[Redsonga]

*hee* Poor Wembley. The last story in my series is being written pretty much just for him .

HUZZAH! *Jumps for joy* I'm still working on my fic (eats fraggle fic like a Gorg with garlic gumdrops)

I like the Mokey mothering aspect, but I don't see much romance.

Well, that's what Where The Wild Wind Blows (http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=40312) started as anyway (now it is also gorgy, since the crown plot is too good not to poke at:excited:). I was like 'gee, why do I always write him as so moody?' and then I noticed that he pretty much got overlooked in many many fics. While someone like Gobo could take just being the backbone of things I think of Wembley as more..needy:coy:. He is hard to pair even with Lou to me:sympathy:

[alyteima]

Yeah, poor Wem is a bit needy. I don't think he's too moody in your fics, he's quite in character, just a little older than when we see him in the series, which makes sense.

I think he hero-worships (particularly Gobo, awww) and that does contribute to his neediness or what appears to be lack of self-confidence. His indecisiveness would definitely affect any romances, LOL. I've been reading (avidly) your latest fic (actually, I read all your fics, LOL) so I love the Wembley slant, obviously, since he's my fav.

I think its easy to find a niche for the characters, poor Wembley is always needing rescuing in my fics (or ficlets, that all they are so far, heh):coy: I'm always putting him in danger, poor baby, but the series does that a lot too. :smirk:

[Redsonga]

Oh, not out of character moody, just moody :). Of course his nature does go more toward being one of the few fraggles who might have a teenager-hood IMHO :3. He is just a little ball of..something *lol*. Whoever ends up with him would have to be very laid back but flexible, I think, but energetic enough to keep up with him :3. I have a theory that it might not be a fraggle ether, but that is just my crazy writers mind :P.

Aw, I am glad to know I have a few readers. Even in my old age I enjoy getting feedback :3. I was not sure if I would be good at writing Fraggle stories , but writing them gives me a feeling of the lazy afternoons near the woods where I grew up helping my grandma with the garden, so I really enjoy them at least ^.^

Uncle Matt/Storyteller is funny to me, but in a sad way. But someday I see it working :3 *sigh* Old people love, the most honest love there is <3!

[bazooka_beak]

Matt/Storyteller is probably the funniest of any possible pairings in the show XD Seriously, I crack up whenever Storyteller mentions him (and she always describes him as though he were the manliest, handsomest Fraggle that ever existed), and in that "flashback" episode she was always looking for excuses to touch him ;) Wonder if he's caught on? Probably not.

[Redsonga]

Matt/Storyteller is probably the funniest of any possible pairings in the show XD Seriously, I crack up whenever Storyteller mentions him (and she always describes him as though he were the manliest, handsomest Fraggle that ever existed), and in that "flashback" episode she was always looking for excuses to touch him ;) Wonder if he's caught on? Probably not.

I see him catching on..or rather, her finally catching him :3. But back then, I don't think so. But then everyone knows how my version of that goes (http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=39722):flirt:

[bazooka_beak]

Yeah, it'd probably be more likely that she'd just kinda "claim him" and he'd be "persuaded" to go along with it ;)

[Redsonga]

Yeah, it'd probably be more likely that she'd just kinda "claim him" and he'd be "persuaded" to go along with it ;)

Canes can be very heavy persuaders:coy:

[SwordKing]

I acknowledge the logic behind Gobo/Red, it's a good pairing. But personally I'd rather see Gobo/Mokey. In the episode "Mokey's Funeral", Gobo laments never being able to tell Mokey something. I'm not certain, but I think there were other subtle hints in other episodes about Gobo and Mokey's feels for each other.

I should probably go watch the DVDs and refresh my memory before I say anything else.

[RedPiggy]

I acknowledge the logic behind Gobo/Red, it's a good pairing. But personally I'd rather see Gobo/Mokey. In the episode "Mokey's Funeral", Gobo laments never being able to tell Mokey something. I'm not certain, but I think there were other subtle hints in other episodes about Gobo and Mokey's feels for each other.

I should probably go watch the DVDs and refresh my memory before I say anything else.
You're right. He does seem very depressed when he thinks Mokey's dead. I think he thought about being with Mokey because Red got on his nerves. However, he spends way more time with Red and I think he "settled" on her, particularly since Boober really wants Mokey.

[Fluffets]

I'd say (and this might seem obvious) Mokey + Cantus. Soon I shall watch more fraggle rock episodes as I don't have much but in one of the episodes I HAVE seen it was when the minstrels came back and Mokey wanted to join them and it seemed she cared for Cantus a lot, not just the minstrels so thats a good enough sign for me! =D

[Fluffets]

This is actually my guilty pleasure shipping theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXPKNiUFPls) for them (I have been thinking of putting a tiny bit of it of it in Wild Winds as 'their song' *lol*)

Lol picture postcards. Is that meant to be some Travelling Matt reference or something? Thats the first thing that came to my mind upon hearing it.;):)

[RedPiggy]

I think Cantus returns the favor. I mean, it's not like he goes around inviting anyone else. Throughout the entire series, Mokey's the only one to get an "audition".

[bazooka_beak]

I finally finished season four, and Storyteller really does have it quite bad for Uncle Matt. It's like everybody knows it (and is weirded out by it) but him :P Talk about a thick skull.

People can ship what they want, but I feel that Mokey is really more of an older sister/mother figure to them and it would feel weird for me personally to ship her with, say, Wembley. I just have it in my head to ship Gobo/Red and nothing else fits as well. I can't remember if there was an episode where Red was presumed dead (there was the cavein episode but it wasn't focused directly on her), so I don't know what Gobo would think/say about it.

[RedPiggy]

well, that's really the only one they dwelt on most, aside from the gorgs

[Redsonga]

Lol picture postcards. Is that meant to be some Travelling Matt reference or something? Thats the first thing that came to my mind upon hearing it.

Yes, sort of. It is like Gobo is teasing about the fact that Red always disliked the post cards, and if she is going to leave to become a star he still loves getting them ;). The line "I don't know how to answer so I always smile and say, send me picture postcards..."
pretty much is how I think their teasing/fighting/contests would turn into a more gentle day to day thing :3..Gobo at least I could see getting more mellow:coy:
I think Cantus returns the favor. I mean, it's not like he goes around inviting anyone else. Throughout the entire series, Mokey's the only one to get an "audition".
I think to find the more thoughtful sort of fraggle is a rare thing, so when they find another of their 'kind' they have a way of grouping together so that they don't go crazy from no one truly 'getting' them :3.

[SwordKing]

After watching the entire first season...

- Gobo and Red act more like surrogate siblings than anything else.

- One could use "New Trash Heap in Town" to make a strong case for Gobo/Mokey. Particulary that heart-to-heart were Gobo helped Mokey see the error of her ways.

- The only truly established pairings, however, are Pa Gorg/Ma Gorg and Wembley/Lou.

[Fluffets]

Another note: Remember that in the Sidebottom episode he does particularly compliment both the girls of the fraggle 5. Saying "Mokey you look ravishing." and "Oh red meeting you is beyond my wildest dreams!". So thats a theory although its a bit unclear whther it was supposed to mean anything but if I got my quotes right then still I could be on to something. After all Sidebottom is just a part of Boober so that might be a hint :)......

[Redsonga]

After watching the entire first season...

- Gobo and Red act more like surrogate siblings than anything else.

- One could use "New Trash Heap in Town" to make a strong case for Gobo/Mokey. Particulary that heart-to-heart were Gobo helped Mokey see the error of her ways.

- The only truly established pairings, however, are Pa Gorg/Ma Gorg and Wembley/Lou.

The thing is a strong case for many pairings can be made if the whole series is taken into account ;). I see Gobo/Mokey as more of a crush that never goes away but might never go anywhere ether. It's funny how fighting like cats and dogs can sometimes mean more...
Even if canon only gives so much this topic is more of a what if:).
Wembley/Lou would be more real to me if it had seemed to last for more than an episode. After all in 'A Tune for Two' Lou picks someone else to sing with and acts like she doesn't even care Wembley is crying by himself :sympathy: Not a good best friend IMHO...
"Mokey you look ravishing." and "Oh red meeting you is beyond my wildest dreams!".
*lol* One for Mokey maybe (let us not forget Sidebottom Blues (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/babyrosedust/side.png) to *epic flinging* ), since Sidebottom could just as well be talking about how Red annoys his other half so much with being silly she might be a legend he learns from (Sidebottom has a thing for not only doing things Boober wants to do but in the best way that makes him feel/uncomfortable bad while doing it after all... )

[SwordKing]

But my point is Gobo and Red don't fight like cats and dogs. They fight like brother and sister.

[Redsonga]

But my point is Gobo and Red don't fight like cats and dogs. They fight like brother and sister.

*lol* It's only an expression:excited:. Anyway, there is room to see all their relationships in different lights...
I know the only boys I ever took the time to fight with like I was their sister (when I wasn't) were those I had a crush on:coy:. So, since Red reminds me of myself at the target (but not only) viewing age for FR I tend to pair them :)
Call me crazy or a hopeless romanic, I know I am both :3

[Alpha Centauri]

When it comes to Fraggle pairings I'm all for Mokey/Boober, but I'm surprised no ones bought up and Doozers pairings like Cotterpin/Wrench.

[bazooka_beak]

^ I like the Cotterpin/Wrench pairing, it's really cute :)

[Alpha Centauri]

I was watching season 4 episode Sidebottom's Blues and Sidebottom who everyone thought was Boober throw himself backwards into Mokey's arms and say to her in a suggestive voice that she'll learn love the new him.

[RedPiggy]

Sidebottom has it hard for Mokey, which makes sense, considering Boober loves Mokey and Sidebottom is more like "the Mask" version of Boober. (Now, he also seemed extremely happy to see Red when they all visited him in Boober's dream ....)

[Alpha Centauri]

Opps I didn't realize that Redsonga had already bought up Sidebottom's Blues episode. Anyway Red and Boober always seemed to act like a sister and brother to me.

[Redsonga]

Yup, yup 'Sidebottom Blues' is epic flinging :3
I think the brother/sister idea for Red and Boober holds up very well :).

[Alpha Centauri]

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Red tease Boober like a sister would her brother and could view him as a boring older brother figure and I think Boober tens to see her as an annoying sister at times.

In the season one episode Marooned, Boober comforts Red like an older brother would.

I like what you said about Gobo/Mokey being a crush that never goes away and never goes anywhere.

And now some Mokey/Boober evidence. In the Muppet Family Christmas, when Kermit and Robin meet the Fraggles Mokey gives Boober a pebble and he kisses her on the cheek and Mokey seemed quite happy about him kissing her.

[Redsonga]

Mokey and Boober always seem a bit happier when they are together I've noticed :). Even though Mokey is often seen as a very happy fraggle she has a sort of unspoken gloom that she uses in poems and things (I think it might have something to do with her wanting to change the fraggle world to make even better somehow but not really having the know how to do it). When they are together a lot of both glooms seems to be canceled out :).
With Gobo/Mokey I think that the crush that doesn't go anywhere is just very realistic. I mean it happens all the time in real life, why not with fraggles? :)

[Alpha Centauri]

True, also I see Mokey as being Boobers comfort too, I don't remember what episode it was, but the mine fraggles were upset about something and Boober was sort of hugging Mokey from behind and when she started to walk he was still holding on to her and walking with her. It was really cute.

[bazooka_beak]

^ Yeah, Mokey is all about peace and art and a worried, paranoid fraggle like Boober really needs somebody like that to keep things calm.

[Morgan Clueless]

(Sorry if I'm intruding. :o It's been a while since I've been on, but when I found this thread, I just had to reply!)

I personally was totally for Mokey/Boober when I was introduced to the series, mainly because they were my top faves. But once I got into it, I also liked Red/Gobo, Sidebottom/Red, C-John/Pink Fragglette, and a slew of others.

Also, while this is not canon and possibly unlikely in the first place, I thought, since the Minstrels and the Old Gypsy Lady travel around a lot, they probably somehow met by chance at some point. ;)

[Redsonga]

Well, the good thing about the writing side of fandom is that you can do stories for many couples and make it all fit. IMHO I don't think Mokey/Boober cancels out Red/Boober in fanfic-dom, but I think as far as the show goes there might be more support for Mokey/Boober or Sidebottom/Red (A note on pairings, usually I put the more forceful of the two first. Where as Boober is happy to be 2nd 99% of the time IMHO, I think Sidebottom would be..something to be in love with. *pictures Sidebottom/Mokey* *rating of pretend story goes up by itself* O.O)

[Morgan Clueless]

Well, the good thing about the writing side of fandom is that you can do stories for many couples and make it all fit. IMHO I don't think Mokey/Boober cancels out Red/Boober in fanfic-dom, but I think as far as the show goes there might be more support for Mokey/Boober or Sidebottom/Red.

That's the fun of fanfics: Anything is possible! *Spongebob-style rainbow hands*

Then again, I'll support just about any pairing that sticks to me, whether or not canon applies! :flirt:

(A note on pairings, usually I put the more forceful of the two first.

Personally, I just go with whatever order I think sounds catchier, and if I can, I'll even mash the names together.

Where as Boober is happy to be 2nd 99% of the time IMHO, I think Sidebottom would be..something to be in love with. *pictures Sidebottom/Mokey* *rating of pretend story goes up by itself* O.O)

That must be some really awesome story! :crazy:

[Redsonga]

Let's just say it would be at least PG-13 if Sidebottom had anything to do with it o.o
*story taps on shoulder*
No, I will not write you :P!

[Alpha Centauri]

What would be really funny if Mokey didn't know it was Sidebottom.

[bazooka_beak]

Let's just say it would be at least PG-13 if Sidebottom had anything to do with it o.o
*story taps on shoulder*
No, I will not write you :P!

LOL! I'm trying really hard not to think about it. How un-Fraggle-y it would be :crazy:

[Redsonga]

LOL! I'm trying really hard not to think about it. How un-Fraggle-y it would be :crazy:

Actually, it could be very fraggle-ly if written a certain way..I just don't have the guts for it *lol* ;).

[bazooka_beak]

Actually, it could be very fraggle-ly if written a certain way..I just don't have the guts for it *lol* ;).

Well if you ever do, good luck :super: