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Neil565
03-14-2009, 07:50 PM
I'm trying to figure out just what the differences where between Season 2 and Season 1 Gobo. Even in the Intro, Gobo seems to be two different puppets.
Near as I can tell -
Jacket is gone
Hair got shorter and possibly a different color
Face got bigger?
Did they completely redoo the Gobo puppet like the Ma Gorg character later on? The others pretty much stay the same throughout.
Traveling Matt
03-15-2009, 02:47 AM
Did they completely redoo the Gobo puppet like the Ma Gorg character later on? The others pretty much stay the same throughout.
I seem to remember about four different Gobos. One for Season 1, one for Season 2, one for Season 3/4 and one used for trick shots. Plus a "poser" puppet appeared occasionally and there was a miniature one for Gorg scenes. The Season 1 puppet had some white in his hair and his eyelids could pull back, in addition to what you listed.
Each successive puppet was likely built using bits and pieces from previous ones. It appears all five Fraggles were refurbished, if not completely rebuilt, during the course of the series.
Redsonga
03-15-2009, 03:00 AM
I only really noticed one change from season 1 to the rest of them, besides the fragglebit (that's what I call the mini fraggles they use for the gorg world). I guess, then, that the fact that I don't notice changes that well is a sign that if your not really looking for them to be different, they did a good job making it feel like it was always him :). And besides, even we silly creatures don't look the same from day to day...
I liked him with the longer hair though :3
bazooka_beak
03-15-2009, 10:51 AM
Yeah, I only noticed the Season One to Season Two change. Guess I wasn't really paying attention :P
Redsonga
03-15-2009, 11:54 AM
Yeah, I only noticed the Season One to Season Two change. Guess I wasn't really paying attention :P
Like I said I don't really think it is a bad thing, I don't think I would want to be able to tell everything apart really:excited:
Foodie
03-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Wow... you mean, some people could barley tell that Gobo changed? Wow. :smirk:
Redsonga
03-19-2009, 08:46 PM
Wow... you mean, some people could barley tell that Gobo changed? Wow. :smirk:
How would being able to tell be a good thing? I mean it doesn't add anything to seeing the series IMHO :). If anything not noticing (besides the first change) I think makes Gobo less of a 'just a puppet', which is just fine for a viewing fan :excited:. I'm not doing a college paper on him or anything *lol*
I do notice when his clothing changes, but not much else :3
Traveling Matt
03-20-2009, 12:00 PM
I believe the third version is in early scenes of Gobo's School for Explorers.
The one used for trick shots can definitely be seen in "You're On Your Own," from The Voice Inside.
getup
03-20-2009, 12:34 PM
I always noticed the change and thought it was when the show sorta came into it's own. The first 12 episodes with the original gobo almost seemed like the test run of fraggle rock to see how it would go. Starting with We Love you Wembley (ep 13) everything just seemed more refined. from the voices, to the designs of the puppets. according to chris's fraggle rock page and the episode guide, there was a 6 month gap between the recordings of episode 12 and 13. they were aired back to back weeks but some of the first episodes were recorded almost a year prior to thier first air date. this could explain the change.
Redsonga
03-20-2009, 06:25 PM
The early episodes are some of my favorites because you really got a feeling for Fraggle Rock. I like the more basic stories :)...But they are all good, I don't think there are any I dislike (expect maybe some of the doozer heavy ones)
Foodie
03-20-2009, 06:28 PM
How would being able to tell be a good thing? I mean it doesn't add anything to seeing the series IMHO :). If anything not noticing (besides the first change) I think makes Gobo less of a 'just a puppet', which is just fine for a viewing fan :excited:. I'm not doing a college paper on him or anything *lol*
I do notice when his clothing changes, but not much else :3
Well, it's not a bad thing. It's just interesting to me is all. I'm a Gobo freak so he stands out for me. All is well though. :smirk:
Redsonga
03-20-2009, 06:33 PM
Well, it's not a bad thing. It's just interesting to me is all. I'm a Gobo freak so he stands out for me. All is well though. :smirk:
Okay dokay..I dunno, I guess I just naturally block out little changes in shows and movies:excited:. I don't like bloopers or thinking about the man behind the curtain if I can help it (even if he has as handsome a singing voice as Gobo's* only half j/k*:coy: )
Baby Gonzo
03-20-2009, 09:13 PM
The first Gobo puppet looks quite younger than the Gobo we see throughout the rest of the series. I don't know if it was a conscious decision on the part of the design team or the writers to make him seem a but more grown up, but I do think it's true to say that the character really did come into himself upon the design change.
Foodie
03-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Okay dokay..I dunno, I guess I just naturally block out little changes in shows and movies:excited:. I don't like bloopers or thinking about the man behind the curtain if I can help it (even if he has as handsome a singing voice as Gobo's* only half j/k)
Ah. I just saw the puppet change as him aging. I've always wondered why they did it though. :smirk:
Redsonga
03-21-2009, 03:06 PM
Ah. I just saw the puppet change as him aging. I've always wondered why they did it though. :smirk:
Maybe at first he was going to be one of the younger fraggles:coy:?
Foodie
03-21-2009, 05:48 PM
Maybe at first he was going to be one of the younger fraggles:?
It's hard to say. I kinda wish they would've addressed that on one of the DVD commentaries. :smirk:
Redsonga
03-21-2009, 07:33 PM
It makes a lot of sense :D! That would explain why Uncle Matt was just leaving and treating him that way, if he was meant to be one of the younger characters just then getting his own cave..But then as they got more into the idea of him being a leader they might have thought he should be older, so they put in the episode where Red is just then getting her own cave and moves in with Mokey and aged him :3.
So maybe at first Red was suppose to be older than him...
wembleyfraggle
04-13-2009, 11:22 AM
Well all the Fraggles went through changes. Gobo was the most. His hair is shorter his jacket went from maroon to brown. Also his eyelids are on in the newer ones but I think they just use his hair in the older ones. His face is fatter also. I like the newer Gobo much better, I think its because I know him best. Also, when yhey started the transition, Gobo always had a hat on! :smirk:
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