Any hopes of Fraggle Rock on Blue-ray?

[muppet baby]

I have been wanting to get the complte series DVD release of Fraggle Roearck but when the word came that a lot of the disc came scrached , i got a little disapornted . i know that by 2010 they said that most everything was going to turn over . I have a blu ray player and quit a few Bul ray Movies it is clearer much better quility . :excited:

Fraggle would look so great plus the cases for the discs would be smaller to because the disc is smaller .

i really had read that things are surpose to change in 2010 , and maybe a year later than that .

All muppet things on blu ray would be so wonderful i love fraggle Rock
i have all the itunes realeases on my i pod though and loving that and season one on dvd hehe .:):excited:

One other thing that i thought of is that Blu rays are surpose to but less susepable to scraching , because of a protective coting .

That would mean that they would more than likly scrached in shipping and things like that .

I have had in the past on other dvds that i have purches new and sealed , they would be loose from the click part on the case and then be scrached a little

[Redsonga]

The thing is that FR looks about as good as it ever will on normal DVDs IMHO because of its age, so if they did bluray it would not be to do anything with the quality I think. Made fore tv series are always a little bit less quality than normal movies, I think FR has a clear enough picture now :3. Plus it would cost more which is another thing against it.

[frogboy4]

There's little Blu-ray would bring to Fraggle Rock unless an extensive interactive element were to be added. The video quality wouldn't bump up any more than Blu-ray players already do to DVD image quality. It would also be more expensive. There are many filmed Muppet projects that will look very nice on Blu but the best Fraggle bet for the format is the Fraggle Rock movie. That will certainly go to Blu-ray (after it hits the theaters a year or so from now of course). :coy:

[Redsonga]

There's little Blu-ray would bring to Fraggle Rock unless an extensive interactive element were to be added. The video quality wouldn't bump up any more than Blu-ray players already do to DVD image quality. It would also be more expensive. There are many filmed Muppet projects that will look very nice on Blu but the best Fraggle bet for the format is the Fraggle Rock movie. That will certainly go to Blu-ray (after it hits the theaters a year or so from now of course). :coy:

I played my FR DVDs in HD once and it actually made them look worst not better. Sometimes I think a step forward is not always the best thing *hugs normal DVD player and not widescreen tv*

[frogboy4]

I played my FR DVDs in HD once and it actually made them look worst not better. Sometimes I think a step forward is not always the best thing *hugs normal DVD player and not widescreen tv*

I didn't say just HD. I mentioned Blu-ray (and only Blu-ray) players upgrade every DVD they play. This includes Fraggle Rock that I have actually witnessed for myself. Some prefer viewing it on the same little box they did as a kid. I get that, but it's not about technical quality as much as nostalgic quality. Whatever floats your Fraggle.

[Traveling Matt]

The difficulty with FR is that it was videotaped. HD, of which the popular format is Blu-ray, is a scan of far more pixels per frame than SD (a true benefit to film). As videotape doesn't have frames, its nature doesn't allow a similar improvement. The best you can really do is feed the source material directly into the computer.

The future may bring something that can essentially cheat an upconversion, but I would be surprised if it ever looks truly better than it does on DVD.

[Redsonga]

I didn't say just HD. I mentioned Blu-ray (and only Blu-ray) players upgrade every DVD they play. This includes Fraggle Rock that I have actually witnessed for myself. Some prefer viewing it on the same little box they did as a kid. I get that, but it's not about technical quality as much as nostalgic quality. Whatever floats your Fraggle.

I know you didn't say HD, I know you only said Blu-ray (ps. I have the flu so my brain is fried right now). But I still think that they are connected. It's not a matter of me wanting to keep things in a little box, I would be all for blu-ray, hd, widescreen etc if it did anything to help the picture quaintly ,but as far as I can tell it doesn't, and that isn't just good memories of days gone by talking. FR looks fine just on normal DVDs on a normal player as it is, and for that matter they cost enough as normal DVDs to. Maybe they might make them when blue-ray costs the same as normal DVDs but I still would think that would be for the collector who always thinks new format always = better than anything before it, rather than the everyday fan that just wants to have a copy of the series. But what do I know, I still use VHS to :)

[frogboy4]

You're still lumping HD with Blu-ray. You likely watched a DVD hooked up to an HD monitor. No other HD device does the upgrading mentioned with Blu-Ray so it's not correct to connect them as the same thing. It is a common mistake.

The regular FR DVD quality is fine, but when playing it or any standard DVD on an HD *screen* there will be noticeable blur, loss of detail and pixilation. Only Blu-ray devices smooth that blur (without degrading the image) for monitors of all types. That bump in quality would be similar to if FR were burned directly to Blu-ray disc because of the limiting video stock master.

The only upside to FR on Blu would be interactivity. Wouldn't you love to see a picture-in-picture of Karen Prell or Jerry Nelson talking about what you're watching while you are watching it? Wouldn't you like to be able to access the menu and special features without having to leave the program? Blu-ray offers the technology for users to watch there features the way they want or just normally. It's freedom, not just picture quality or compression. Options are nice. However, these special features take time and cost money.

[Redsonga]

It was a DVD in an HD player with an HD connection on an HD tv so I dunno...I'm not trying to debate or anything, really I'm not :).
I actually don't like watching two things at once and would just go to the menu itself if I wanted it, since I have this thing where once I start watching an episode I watch it all the way though (silly I know). I usually only watch special features a few times, for some reason I like reading about the history of something even more on paper than on video *hugs wiki*. ...
Anyway, I'm not saying my taste should sway anyone, just that blu-ray isn't much of a draw for me yet. That doesn't mean that it is bad to me, I can just do without just fine :)

[frogboy4]

It was a DVD in an HD player with an HD connection on an HD tv so I dunno...I'm not trying to debate or anything, really I'm not :).
I actually don't like watching two things at once and would just go to the menu itself if I wanted it, since I have this thing where once I start watching an episode I watch it all the way though (silly I know). I usually only watch special features a few times, for some reason I like reading about the history of something even more on paper than on video *hugs wiki*. ...
Anyway, I'm not saying my taste should sway anyone, just that blu-ray isn't much of a draw for me yet. That doesn't mean that it is bad to me, I can just do without just fine :)

Then you didn't watch an image upscale - just a DVD on an HDTV. You're certainly speaking of something entirely different in that you are confusing a television with a playing device attachment. There’s no image upgrade – just a larger scale. It’s comparing apples and watermelons rather than a question of opinion.

It's nice to have options even if you don't use them. Most things will likely go Blu (or provide the same sorts of features and services in the future). To be interested in Blu-ray discs one must first have plans for a Blu-ray player. It doesn't appear you are interested in either but that really wasn't the topic of this thread - the likelihood and outcome of a FR Blu-ray release.

So, recap - FR the series won't likely come to Blu-ray. FR the movie will likely come to the format once it hits theaters and home video. There are advantages to Blu-ray that don't only involve picture quality. This includes everything from advanced picture-in-picture to better ease in navigating through an episode and knowing the place you are in the story.

On an added note - the big talk has really been on Labyrinth and Dark Crystal coming to Blu-ray first. Both titles are released through Sony (which also owns the Blu-ray platform). Personally I'd like to see all of the Muppet, Sesame and fantasy films hit Blu first before the television stuff. It makes a little more sense.

[Redsonga]

Then you didn't watch an image upscale - just a DVD on an HDTV. You're certainly speaking of something entirely different in that you are confusing a television with a playing device attachment. There’s no image upgrade – just a larger scale. It’s comparing apples and watermelons rather than a question of opinion.

It's nice to have options even if you don't use them. Most things will likely go Blu (or provide the same sorts of features and services in the future). To be interested in Blu-ray discs one must first have plans for a Blu-ray player. It doesn't appear you are interested in either but that really wasn't the topic of this thread - the likelihood and outcome of a FR Blu-ray release.

So, recap - FR the series won't likely come to Blu-ray. FR the movie will likely come to the format once it hits theaters and home video. There are advantages to Blu-ray that don't only involve picture quality. This includes everything from advanced picture-in-picture to better ease in navigating through an episode and knowing the place you are in the story.

On an added note - the big talk has really been on Labyrinth and Dark Crystal coming to Blu-ray first. Both titles are released through Sony (which also owns the Blu-ray platform). Personally I'd like to see all of the Muppet, Sesame and fantasy films hit Blu first before the television stuff. It makes a little more sense.
All I know is that my player itself is HD, things do normally look better on it than a normal player:).
Anyway, movies do make more sense...

[frogboy4]

All I know is that my player itself is HD, things do normally look better on it than a normal player:).
Anyway, movies do make more sense...

There is no HD player aside from Blu-ray or HDDVD (now defunct and did not provide upscaling) so it's not clear what your talking about. Nonetheless, this thread is about Fraggle Rock and Blu-ray. I keep trying to get it back to that topic, but these responses seem vague and random.

[Redsonga]

If FR is put on Blu-ray it might just be season four to save money as that is the season that is most wanted, then they might be able to rope people into buying the rest to have 'a matching set'.

[JJandJanice]

If FR is put on Blu-ray it might just be season four to save money as that is the season that is most wanted, then they might be able to rope people into buying the rest to have 'a matching set'.

If that was the idea, than they would probably just release the whole series on Blue Ray in one complete package as they did for DVD, and the whole series DVD set cost a "pretty penny" so a complete series of Fraggle Rock Blue Ray sounds like it would cost a whole lot. Plus as mention, there isn't a whole lot Blue Ray can do for the old Fraggle footage.

I don't think there is really much of a demand for Fraggle Rock on Blue Ray, I don't see it happening.

[Redsonga]

As it is we are not even done with the normal DVD demand yet, so it does seem a little bit early to be worried about jumping to another format :)

[muppet baby]

If FR is put on Blu-ray it might just be season four to save money as that is the season that is most wanted, then they might be able to rope people into buying the rest to have 'a matching set'.

You know that is probably true i mean having season 4 on blu ray frist and then go backward 3 2 1 LOL .

i can not wait Fraggle Rock is a classic , so it may be some years off though so they can make sure that it is done right .

i know that at some point , you know that older things like fraggle rock don't look perfect on Blu Ray i mean i have had that happen with some movies that my dad got from the 60s that wher on Blu ray but some of it was clear . All we can do is wait and see i guess . LOL i hope that blu ray will come out for this show and all henson things . it is classic and everything is going to move to Blu ray as part of the HD converion as least that is what i have heard :excited: so far i really like blu ray dvd still though has great things to still for movies so much better than VHS .

[Andibcool]

Oh blue ray DVDs something that i dont really miss so far.
Sure the picture quality is better Ddue higher resolution and bigger storrage datatransfer rates if done right.

The biggest problem i have with blue ray is the disks are way more expensive over here for the only little better picture.
Not to mention without a good Full HD flatscreen you wont notice much better picture on an old tv.

As for old serries blue ray wont do much for em anyway, because Most are not filmed for this high resulutions or the masters are bad. Like for Fraggle Rock on videotape you dont have much options for a better picture. Its a whole other thing if u have it on film.
Most old TV shows would look more worse in higher resulutions unless you remaster them and even then its not guranteed to look better.

Dont know how it is in the US but here in germany blue ray disk cost often ( much ) more then the normal DVD.

[Traveling Matt]

The biggest problem i have with blue ray is the disks are way more expensive over here for the only little better picture.
That's most certainly a problem over here in the US as well. No one is buying BR discs because of the price and, with the ongoing recession, sales of even standard DVDs are down significantly.

This article sums up 2008 US disc sales pretty well: http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/123584