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Redsonga
11-06-2008, 09:04 AM
Is that everything else on tv is so depressing in comparison :sympathy:. After I watched the last two episodes last night I just had to switch the tv off...
We may not ever leave the magic, but more people need to be touched by it lately to remember that IMHO:(.

I hope the future of Fraggle Rock will do that as much as the past still does to this day :excited:

heralde
11-06-2008, 10:16 AM
I know exactly what you mean! I have the same feeling sometimes watching the Muppets, period. Sort of reminds me of the last lines of the musical Camelot, when King Arthur mourns the end of his dream but encourages a youth to keep it alive:

"Ask every person if he's heard the story, and tell it strong and clear if he has not, that once there was a fleeting wisp of glory, called Camelot....Let it never be forgot that once there was a spot...forone brief shining moment...that was known as Camelot."

DLGabriel
11-06-2008, 06:24 PM
Is that everything else on tv is so depressing in comparison :sympathy:. After I watched the last two episodes last night I just had to switch the tv off...
We may not ever leave the magic, but more people need to be touched by it lately to remember that IMHO:(.

I hope the future of Fraggle Rock will do that as much as the past still does to this day :excited:


My sentiments exactly. I always get a bit sad when watching the final episodes. They're so masterfully done, far and above almost anything Televison has ever seen.

Baby Gonzo
11-06-2008, 07:51 PM
I agree. The word masterpiece is often overused, but I feel as though the entire series, but those final episodes in particular are an an underrated masterpiece in family friendly entertainment. It's a sort of universal philosophy that I can only wish I can live up to and support in my own creations.

Those last episodes have a message that I will forever cherish. There is magic in the world and everything is magic if you see it that way. I think that if mankind would finally open their eyes and see this, the world would be better off.


I am grateful that the series was able to end in such a magnificent way as opposed to just ending abruptly after being canceled as many shows of today do.

getup
11-06-2008, 08:52 PM
I would rank it up among the best finales ever on tv. i always loved how the show evolved and how the fraggles relationship with everyone else had evolved as well. and i really loved the way it ended with everyone singing the theme song

DLGabriel
11-07-2008, 12:14 AM
I agree. The word masterpiece is often overused, but I feel as though the entire series, but those final episodes in particular are an an underrated masterpiece in family friendly entertainment. It's a sort of universal philosophy that I can only wish I can live up to and support in my own creations.

Those last episodes have a message that I will forever cherish. There is magic in the world and everything is magic if you see it that way. I think that if mankind would finally open their eyes and see this, the world would be better off.


I am grateful that the series was able to end in such a magnificent way as opposed to just ending abruptly after being canceled as many shows of today do.

Absolutely. I actually credit Fraggle Rock for a lot of what makes me who I am today. I grew up loving the show and love it even more as the years go on. I know it might sound corny to a lot of silly creatures, but the Fraggles and their universe taught me a great deal about how the world should be and could be if only said silly creatures would open their eyes and ears to it.

As great as the entire Muppet world is, was, and always will be, in my opinion, Fraggle Rock is the crown jewel of it all and as you said, a true masterpiece of cinematic excellence.

Drtooth
11-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Any last episode of anything makes me depressed. Heck, I taped the last Ultimate Muscle, and I didn't get around to watching it a second time 2 years later. Even the "Star Warners" episode of Animaniacs (though, it apparently counts as a Pinky and the Brain episode) makes me feel low. It was like an end of the Amblin/Warners era.


But this one is one I'm not really looking forward to watching, ONLY because of the depressing stuff. I can't even watch the Jim Henson Tribute the full way through. I'm not good with beautiful tearfilled goodbyes. I can hardly keep a straight face when I'm watching a goofy, lighthearted, "This is the End!"

Redsonga
11-10-2008, 06:33 PM
I think it is one of those things that is so timeless that the idea that it could end, even if the ending is perfect, is very hard to..feel:cry:.

Fragglemuppet
11-10-2008, 06:44 PM
I feel the exact same way about being able to attribute many things about my personality to Fraggle Rock. Also about it being the "crown jewl" of the muppets. I only have a few scattered muppet memories from my childhood, for some reason that I still can't fathum, I wasn't a fan of Sesame Street when I was little, and as I just said to someone yesterday, Fraggle Rock was practically my life growing up! As such, it has a special place in my heart.
As for watching the final episode, I partly want to see it of course, and partly don't want to. I'm certainly going to make the viewing of it special though, and not just a quick, spur-of-the-moment thing.
"You can not leave the magic."
"Everything's magic, if you see it that way."
:smirk:

heralde
11-10-2008, 06:55 PM
As for watching the final episode, I partly want to see it of course, and partly don't want to. I'm certainly going to make the viewing of it special though, and not just a quick, spur-of-the-moment thing.
"You can not leave the magic."
"Everything's magic, if you see it that way."
:smirk:

That's a good idea, making a special event of it. :excited:

I actually saw the very last episode years ago, I remember the new place Doc moved to in the desert with the big window. I stayed at a similar looking hotel around the same time and that's always connected to my memory of Fraggle Rock somehow, lol.

Fragglemuppet
11-10-2008, 08:24 PM
I saw it also when it aired on Disney years ago. Even though I didn't know what was causing it, (I may have loved Fraggle Rock, but I sadly often didn't pay as close attention to it as I should have), the episode did have a different feel to it for me. Oh, I remember! It was because even though I didn't know it was the last episode, I kind of suspected that it might be. Anyway, all I remember is the bit with Doc dressing Sprocket up as his grandfather so he could have a seat, and asking for cookies for him at the end. For some reason though, I was convinced that it was Doc who had to move to the seaside for his health, and not Ned to the desert. I was in denial when I first read it the way it really was online, lol!
But while we're on the subject of Ned moving to the desert for his health, here's a question I've always pondered. Can moving to the desert really be beneficial to someone with asthma, or was his doctor just a quack who was in it for Ned's insurance money?
:rolleyes: Seriously, I've thought of this!

Redsonga
11-10-2008, 09:14 PM
Even though it was about friendship I think it would have made a bit more sense for Doc to be the one who got sick...

Yes, it can help, depending on the type you have..It sure helped my daddy who has those troubles :)

heralde
11-10-2008, 09:36 PM
Either way would have been interesting! But I did like the moment when Doc ponders "How can this be happening?" It was a very poigant, true to life moment.

Redsonga
11-10-2008, 09:41 PM
Either way would have been interesting! But I did like the moment when Doc ponders "How can this be happening?" It was a very poigant, true to life moment.

That is true...and it would have been a bit too sad, I think, if it had been Doc :(.

Fragglemuppet
11-10-2008, 09:53 PM
Yeah, besides, it showed the downright sweet guy Doc was to help Ned out, although I personally think moving to the desert with him was a bit extreme, lol. It also had something to do with the fraggles, as he pretty much admitted that it was meeting Gobo that made his mind up for him. Never quite understood that though... I mean, how ironic was it?
:smirk: Then again, I don't remember that episode, the Honk of Honks, either, and am just going by the bit of dialog before and after the Song of Songs that I heard from a coppy on a website.

JuniorGorg
11-11-2008, 10:31 AM
Are there episodes still running on some channel? I remember pulling hard a number of years back to get them on tv...I haven't seen them in forever, though.

Redsonga
11-11-2008, 10:56 AM
Are there episodes still running on some channel? I remember pulling hard a number of years back to get them on tv...I haven't seen them in forever, though.

Not in the US as far as I know :(. But for what it's worth they are being shown on my youtube channel ;).

invisabell
11-12-2008, 04:20 PM
Not in the US as far as I know :(. But for what it's worth they are being shown on my youtube channel ;).

They are playing it on teletoon in canada.
:busy:

Redsonga
11-12-2008, 04:43 PM
They are playing it on teletoon in canada.
:busy:

Ah, Canada...I've always liked tv shows from there :). FR really could be called one more than a US show...:coy:

heralde
11-12-2008, 04:47 PM
Ah, Canada...I've always liked tv shows from there :). FR really could be called one more than a US show...:coy:

On youtube, a German user once said they loved Fraggle Rock and were shocked to realize it was also an English speaking show, which is very cool. :)

Redsonga
11-12-2008, 06:09 PM
On youtube, a German user once said they loved Fraggle Rock and were shocked to realize it was also an English speaking show, which is very cool. :)

I guess they would be surprised to know it was first made to be in english and then dubbed from there to *lol*:coy:

heralde
11-12-2008, 06:24 PM
Well I wonder if Jim and friends ever thought they'd be that effective!

CarrieTheGreat
11-14-2008, 09:08 AM
Last night I finally finished the last episodes of Fraggle Rock, and what a delight they were.

I am a magician, and I am inspired to create a show around the phrase "You cannot leave the magic." The idea is so big right now that I don't know how to carry it off, but I will work on it some more in the coming year.

I want to have oblique Fraggle references without obvious ones (to save myself copyright issues), but make it as interesting as the show has been to me.

I'm glad I purchased the series set. It is beautifully put together, except for the packaging problems already discussed. Thankfully the discs that fell out of their sleeves were undamaged in the set I received.

Long Live Fraggle Rock!

Carrie

Fragglemuppet
11-14-2008, 10:43 AM
Here's to oblique muppet and fraggle refferences! I like to try and put them into as much of what I do and say as possible. It's fun for me, you never know who'll pipe up and say, "Hey, that's from the muppets! I know that!" and that's how you make a new friend, and I think that maybe I could possibly, in some mystical way, tune someone in to the magic when I do it.

dwmckim
03-20-2009, 12:50 AM
Well, speaking as someone who actually DOES live in the desert (Phoenix AZ is essentially a city in a desert area), i can say maybe it might be more beneficial than other areas of the country (esp if it's moisture in the air that causes problems as here we have the infamous "dry heat") but as far as purity, "computer says nooooo". I suffer from chronic bronchitis and when there's high amounts of pollutants in the air i have real severe coughing fits before sunrise and after sunset when i go outside ... just gagging to where i can barely breathe. Of course things may have been different in 1987! (Wait a minute, that's when i moved here - almost forgot - and yes it wasn't as bad but i still remember high pollution advisories back then) Now of course that may be just because Phoenix is more industrial being the big city it is than what one usually associates with a desert - and even though it may not be considered as much a desert climate, other areas of AZ like Sedona are noted for its healthier air/climate.

Redsonga
03-20-2009, 07:08 AM
I don't think they moved to the big city at all :). Moving from the smaller place they seemed to live in to the more city-like part of AZ in their old age would be..odd.:\