Amazon to offer Nickelodeon "Burn-On-Demand" titles

[bazooka_beak]

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Site-News-Nickelodeon-Amazon-CreateSpace/10375

These releases are official, but you won't find them in Wal-Mart or Best Buy, it's Amazon only.

I find the whole setup rather confusing, the prices lousy for us poor schmuks, and the "Best Ofs" (instead of full seasons) for some disappointing, but I guess it's better than nothing. Your thoughts?

[D'Snowth]

Man, I wouldn't mind having some OFFICIAL Rocko DVDs, but why do they HAVE to be JUST on Amazon?

:cry:

[jacobsnchz]

Man, I wouldn't mind having some OFFICIAL Rocko DVDs, but why do they HAVE to be JUST on Amazon?

:cry:

It's been along time since I've seeen and Rocko stuff... this could be good. New stuff for old fans and the new generation of fans! :)

[Ilikemuppets]

Sounds good and I hope they have more coming! I like the idea of actually owning Doug!

[wwfpooh]

It's just too bad that it's under "best of" complilations instead of specific show seasons.

[bazooka_beak]

Man, I wouldn't mind having some OFFICIAL Rocko DVDs, but why do they HAVE to be JUST on Amazon?

:cry:

I guess maybe they think it's "safer" to just make DVDs as they're ordered, instead of printing out stuff that might not sell. I don't think this does those shows much justice, frankly, especially since we've waited so long for them :/ And depending on the show, you're basically paying $3 or more an episode! :boo:

[Ilikemuppets]

I guess maybe they think it's "safer" to just make DVDs as they're ordered, instead of printing out stuff that might not sell.Well maybe they are just testing the waters before then get back into things. I mean they have a pretty huge library.

And try not to freak out Snowth. Just because "Rocko" is not here does not mean it will not me. Maybe it will come to itunes as well!

[D'Snowth]

Maybe it will come to itunes as well!iTunes isn't really good if you're on a PC. MAC maybe, but not PCs.

Makes me sad, because of the rarest, and most sought-after episode of Alvin and The Chipmunks might possibly be on iTunes in the future, and I won't be able to see it.

[Oscarfan]

iTunes works fine on my PC. Though, sometimes I have problems, but not very often.

[Teheheman]

iTunes actually has Doug Season 1 for $19.99, and the best of Rocko's Modern Life Vol. 1 I think they also have season 1 of Hey Arnold too. I can't say what other NickToons they have on there, but I know those are the 3 I saw.

Daniel

[bazooka_beak]

^

Yeah, it's a little strange that they'd be charging so much more for the DVD version, but I'm going to wait for people to buy some of them first, and then review it, so I'll know about quality and such.

I'd like to avoid getting the episodes through iTunes. You're stuck playing them on your iPod, and it's DRM locked to boot. Yuck :cry:

Well maybe they are just testing the waters before then get back into things. I mean they have a pretty huge library.


That's one of the theories being tossed around, and I hope it's a possibility.

[anytimepally]

I like the idea of burn-on-demand, but I wish they'd use it for short-lived series that won't otherwise get a DVD release instead of things like this, which probably will get a release someday

[wwfpooh]

instead of things like this, which probably will get a release somedayWell, ever since Jenkins went to Disney with the series, I doubt Doug will get a release, considering how Disney & Nick are always at odds.

[bazooka_beak]

^ I don't think putting the original series out "properly" would be much of an issue, because I think they still own those first few seasons (a few years ago I even saw some episodes on Nicktoons Network). But the "Brand Spankin' New" series they definitely couldn't. I don't really mind about that though, the Nick version was 20 times better.

[wwfpooh]

^ I don't think putting the original series out "properly" would be much of an issue, because I think they still own those first few seasons.I thought Jim Jenkins owned all episodes of Doug.

[Ilikemuppets]

I thought Jim Jenkins owned all episodes of Doug.Nope. Viacom and Disney do I believe.

itunes works just fine of any pc I've used...

[Teheheman]

I think that Viacom should release the Nickelodeon version and Disney should release the sucky version. But since Nickelodeon isn't gonna release anything since Pete and Pete didn't sell well, nor did Clarissa. I'm sure that if they sold well, we'd see more like Salute Your Shorts or Hey Dude on DVD. Disney doesn't put anything out that isn't aimed toward Tweenagers on DVD, so we're screwed there. Oh well, this might be the best we got.

Daniel

[Drtooth]

Disney doesn't put anything out that isn't aimed toward Tweenagers on DVD, so we're screwed there. Oh well, this might be the best we got.



I've been angry at those Raggin Fraggin' sonafrakkkin' Tweenagers for some time. It's like the only kids' media is for preschoolers (the rise in terrible Dora clones- even Mickey had to be shoehorned into one... am I right, Pooh?), and Tweenagers... it's like the kids 6-11 somehow disappeared. like there was a 6 year gape where people stopped having kids. I've SEEN 10 year old boys in stores recently. It's not like they don't exist.

But what burns my butt? I still don't like how companies choose to release certain shows and neglect others. WHO THE SHELL WANTS WHAT'S HAPPENING? Every single TV show that just came out gets a big fat box set, and shows that people would actually buy sit in mothballs. I don't see why Nick can't sublicense these shows like they did with Invader Zim. Unless of course they're stuck in between the "we don't want to lose any profits we could get, but we aren't actually persuing them" crap that Kept Ghostbusters off DVD for 3 years, leaving Time Life to have to release it.

[wwfpooh]

even Mickey had to be shoehorned into one... am I right, PoohYes, you are. The same would apply to my username-sake being made into a lackluster detective, too.

[anytimepally]

I thought Jim Jenkins owned all episodes of Doug.

if this were true, it wouldn't matter that Nick & Disney were at odds, b/c Jenkins would have to license the episodes himself to get DVDs released.. and Doug wouldn't be a part of the Nick-Amazon deal

[wwfpooh]

and Doug wouldn't be a part of the Nick-Amazon dealHow do you know? A lot of things that've been licensed by their creators have made to Amazon for burning purposes. But, Jim Jenkins did create both versions, even if Nick & Disney were the ones to air the respective versions.

[Teheheman]

I will give Disney credit, they are a lot better with their older cartoons than Nick is since they DID release TaleSpin, DuckTales, and Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers on DVD. Along with assorted Mickey cartoons but still, I think they just wanna get the tween "I have my parents money and I don't care what I spend it on" crowd.

Daniel

[wwfpooh]

I think they just wanna get the tween "I have my parents money and I don't care what I spend it on" crowdIt is the demographic they market towards.

[Drtooth]

I will give Disney credit, they are a lot better with their older cartoons than Nick is since they DID release TaleSpin, DuckTales, and Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers on DVD. Along with assorted Mickey cartoons but still, I think they just wanna get the tween "I have my parents money and I don't care what I spend it on" crowd.

Of course, Disney isn't planning on finishing them up. No plans for Darkwing Duck Volume 3, and no The Tick volume 3 (even though they only own that due to Saban?) Bullcrap. Just finish them all off so we have legal, legit, good quality versions and not have to go with the bootlegs...

[Teheheman]

Well, they only put out the first volumes of em to see if they sold well, if they did, then the other volumes would follow, then the whole series would be on DVD which sucks but what can ya do? This, for however stupid it may sound, is a good way of getting to see if there's a market out there for these old cartoons. Then maybe they will have a real DVD out there soon.

Daniel

[wwfpooh]

There is a market to those old cartoons, just as there's a market for Muppet stuff. The problem? The market demographic for those things is different than the teenybopper demographic that Disney appeals to.

[Teheheman]

That's why they are teaming them up with all those Disney "stars" for that Studio DC thing. To get the tweenyboppers interested in them by promoting them with the stars they already love.

Daniel

[wwfpooh]

That's why they are teaming them up with all those Disney "stars" for that Studio DC thing. To get the tweenyboppers interested in them by promoting them with the stars they already love.

DanielBut the bad stigma that some people have been toting for years doesn't help to get people to see beyond what's in front of them (i.e. to see past the fact that The Muppets are puppets). So, how can Disney hope to get interest in The Muppets if they have people in their own divisions who feel like puppets are for babies (ex: those hack writers for the "Pancake" Hannah episode)? I mean, you know that for fans of the Tweens, whatever the Tweens say--even if it is not really them, but rather, the written script--is practically law.

[bazooka_beak]

Of course, Disney isn't planning on finishing them up. No plans for Darkwing Duck Volume 3, and no The Tick volume 3 (even though they only own that due to Saban?) Bullcrap. Just finish them all off so we have legal, legit, good quality versions and not have to go with the bootlegs...


I'm still waiting for them to finish up Ducktales (which, if they had gone by their previous release patterns, the final season would've been out in a few months). I doubt it sold that poorly.

[wwfpooh]

Again, as I said, it's all up to money and demographics, plain & simple.

[Ilikemuppets]

But since Nickelodeon isn't gonna release anything since Pete and Pete didn't sell well, nor did Clarissa.

DanielYou wanna know the real reason why Pete And Pete season three didn't get released. Well, on the commentary of season one the creators were bragging about how they had all this indy music on there show that they didn't have to pay for or anythign. Well it's tunes out that the first toe season's did sell well. So well in fact that for when "Polaris" who's the name of the band who played the theme song found out, they wanted a bunch of money from the previous released seasons and for season there. So the release of season three was canceled very soon after this.

[bazooka_beak]

Maybe if this whole "CreateSpace" thing works out well, Disney would consider finishing off the shows this way? It's better than nothing :/

[wwfpooh]

You wanna know the real reason why Pete And Pete season three didn't get released. Well, on the commentary of season one the creators were bragging about how they had all this indy music on there show that they didn't have to pay for or anythign. Well it's tunes out that the first toe season's did sell well. So well in fact that for when "Polaris" who's the name of the band who played the theme song found out, they wanted a bunch of money from the previous released seasons and for season there. So the release of season three was canceled very soon after this.Serves 'em right for bragging.

[Teheheman]

Yeah, but that doesn't really explain Clarissa. I mean, why did they only release one season or volume or whatever? Plus, what about Salute Your Shorts? That was such a short lived show, they could just put the whole series on 2 DVDs with some extras or something for like $30. That show is in the top 10 in series wanted by the fans on TVShowsonDVD.com, so that should tell ya something

Daniel

[Ilikemuppets]

Serves 'em right for bragging.They wern't really bragging. But that had to be creative because they wern't given the kind of budget to afford music rights of major bands. I mean one song from a major band would put them back like 80,000 in the hole or something. So the musics they used in the show was much cheaper than that.

[Drtooth]

All I can say is SMURF the live action sitcoms. I want ALL the Nicktoons on DVD. Well, maybe not Rocket Power (Gad was that lame), but definately Doug, Rocko, Monsters, and like that.

[bazooka_beak]

Ah yes, I forgot about Aa! Real Monsters! Maybe they'll consider it for the future :)

[Teheheman]

God, now THAT was a good Nicktoon. I haven't heard of that one in a long time. I don't even think that's IN the Nick On-Demand thing is it?

Daniel

[wwfpooh]

Ah yes, I forgot about Aa! Real Monsters! Maybe they'll consider it for the future :)Ikis was my favorite. Always so high-strung, though. XD

[bazooka_beak]

I personally liked the skinny checkered one, her name is on the tip of my tongue. And I remember the episode where we got to meet her family, they were pretty strange :) Uppercrust monsters, if you can believe it.

Does anyone else feel like, unless the show is super popular like Spongebob or Lost, you can't trust companies to finish what they started? :smirk:

[Teheheman]

Oblina I believe was the striped, candy cane looking one.

Daniel

[wwfpooh]

Does anyone else feel like, unless the show is super popular like Spongebob or Lost, you can't trust companies to finish what they started? :smirk:Or unless it's had years of underground fan support (putting SatAM & Zim onto DVD).

[Blue Weirdo]

call me when they put out "My Life as a Teenage Robot"

[wwfpooh]

call me when they put out "My Life as a Teenage Robot"That still airs on Nicktoons Network, so I doubt it'd be on DVD any time soon.

[Ilikemuppets]

If only Klasky Csupo would release the monsters!

[wwfpooh]

If only Klasky Csupo would release the monsters!That's as likely as them releasing every Rugrats episode onto DVD. What with the religion episodes that were in the series, I doubt all of the series would be up for a DVD release consideration.

[bazooka_beak]

It really surprises me that Rugrats isn't on the list. Considering how ridiculously popular it was, and how Nick reran the episodes to DEATH, you'd think it would be there. Not saying I'm a fan of Rugrats, but the fact that Doug and Rocko came first is a shock.

[Drtooth]

call me when they put out "My Life as a Teenage Robot"

They have a couple episodes of Teenage Robot on the "Nick Picks" volumes, and they're pretty much trying to get rid of them. you can get some for 8 bucks.

I want them to do the old stuff first. I can't believe they didn't even do classic Rugrats, considering it was the Rugrats network for a good chunk of the late 90's, early 00's. Not that I would buy Rugrats, dispite the fact I like it...

But seriously, they NEED to release these in stores in GOOD quality. Something tells me they'll look worse than bootlegs with the logos still on them.

[bazooka_beak]

I just found a review somebody did for Hey Arnold Season One: http://community.livejournal.com/hey_arnold/81900.html

Everything seems to be decent enough. She includes pictures of the casing and DVDs, and screenshots of the menu.

[wwfpooh]

Too bad the quality of the picture seems poor in comparison to your standard DVD.

[Ilikemuppets]

I think they said they might be releasing "All That" or something. But one can hope for "Round House".:p

[wwfpooh]

But one can hope for "Round House".:pThat came when Nick was still Pinwheel, I think, so I doubt that'll be released.

[bazooka_beak]

Are you sure? I think I remember "Roundhouse" being in the SNICK (Saturday Night Nick) lineup, and that had to be in the 90s.

~*Whenever my life gets me so down, I know I can go down...*~

I wish there was a way to keep track of what they plan to release, but because it's not retail DVD sites aren't really getting into it.

[Teheheman]

I thought that Roundhouse was in the 90s after All That on the SNICK line-up. Somewhere between All That and Are You Afraid of the Dark? Either All That or Clarissa, I can't remember, it was somewhere in there.

Daniel

[bazooka_beak]

Amazon has dropped the prices for each of these sets by about 25%. Wow, that's fast O_o Does this mean preorder sales were really good? I don't know what prompted this, but keep going, I say!

[wwfpooh]

I thought that Roundhouse was in the 90s after All That on the SNICK line-up. Somewhere between All That and Are You Afraid of the Dark? Either All That or Clarissa, I can't remember, it was somewhere in there.

DanielOdd. I usually remember 80's & 90's TV. I wonder how that slipped my mind?

[erniebert1234ss]

SMURF the Nicktoons, put out the Nick GAME SHOWS, dangit!

BJ

[wwfpooh]

SMURF the Nicktoons, put out the Nick GAME SHOWS, dangit! BJWhy? There's NICK GAS for them (because that station airs what it's supposed to...Nick's classic gaming programming)! The old school Nicktoons, however, have been neglected, even on the channel Nicktoons are supposed to have 24/7 airtime over (because all the classics have been phased out for short-lived shows--Teenage Robot & [pre-DVD] Invader Zim--earlier seasons of Spongebob & the on-off hit that is Avatar, and the recently-canned Danny Phantom).

[erniebert1234ss]

Why? There's NICK GAS for them (because that station airs what it's supposed to...Nick's classic gaming programming)!
Uhm, not as of December 31, 2007. Why they decided to stop airing Nick GAS and add that stupid Noggin 24/7/365 channel is completely, utterly, and horribly beyond me.

I'm saying release the Nick game shows because they're NOT broadcasting them anymore (unless you count a VERY limited selection airing on TurboNick, and I do mean VERY LIMITED).

BJ

[wwfpooh]

Uhm, not as of December 31, 2007.So? They've not aired Doug or Rocko since the 90's when they originally aired, so I think the earlier shows take more precedence.

[erniebert1234ss]

You could say the same for the ORIGINAL Double Dare, GUTS, and What Would You Do? shows, as well. Unfortunately, it wasn't ALL NickToons back in the day, much as Nick wants to make you think it was.

BJ

[Drtooth]

Listen... Nicktoons really MADE the channel back in the 90's. The game shows were cool and all, but for the first time in a while, cartoons were labeled "Created by______" In fact, were cartoons even labeled with their creators before that?

In fact, they were so popular a certain other network started doing original cartoons as well. Unfortunately, more people care about 12 year old girls now, and this practice is all but finished... but these 2 networks changed the face of cartoons and animation. And we have to sit here and see these accomplishments go unnoticed....

[wwfpooh]

The game shows were cool and all, but for the first time in a while, cartoons were labeled "Created by______"That and the cartoons on Nickelodeon had a specific nickname dedicated to just them...Nicktoons. Sort of like what The Disney Afternoon did to the shows that were within its block of programming, Nick was one of the first few networks to lay specific cartoons out under one banner.

[Ilikemuppets]

The interesting thing about "The Adventures Of Pete And Pete" season three was that is was already finished and the special features and commentary were finished and everyhting. Viacom was just to cheap to Pay the band money.

I thought that Roundhouse was in the 90s after All That on the SNICK line-up. Somewhere between All That and Are You Afraid of the Dark? Either All That or Clarissa, I can't remember, it was somewhere in there.

DanielFrom what I rememebr it came on between Clarissa and Ren & Stimpy.

So? They've not aired Doug or Rocko since the 90's when they originally aired, so I think the earlier shows take more precedence. Actual they stopped airing more of this nick toons for good some time in the early part of this decade. Some being earlier than others...

[wwfpooh]

Viacom was just to cheap to Pay the band money.I.e. Viacom was being tight-fistedly Scrooge-esque.

[Drtooth]

The interesting thing about "The Adventures Of Pete And Pete" season three was that is was already finished and the special features and commentary were finished and everyhting. Viacom was just to cheap to Pay the band money.


GAH! That's terrible. And Viacom wants to sue people for "stealing" youtube videos from them? Hypocritic much?

[wwfpooh]

GAH! That's terrible. And Viacom wants to sue people for "stealing" youtube videos from them? Hypocritic much?Such is the way of our society.