50 greatest shows of all time

[Drtooth]

How many of you have seen the special or magazine "TV guide's 50 greatest shows of all time?" I got to admit, It was a bad special, and I had problems with some of the choises. But Ones I liked were Taxi, Sesame Street (which is why I post this on a Muppet Board) Frasier, Cheers, I Love Lucy, HoneyMooners, Seinfeld, The Simpsons etc. etc.
# 47 was one of my favorite shows, Rocky and Bullwinkle. Besides Henson, Jay Ward is on the list of people I most Admire. I'm cleaning out a closet, so I can put my Moose and Squirrel Memorablia in it, making a shrine (I plan to do the same with the Muppets, once the figures come out!) I was outraged when the show was mentioned breifly in passing (not even a short clip!)

But I must confess, my main complaint is that Buffy the Vampire Slayer made the list. Why, oh, why is it considered a great TV show of all time? I don't even think it's good! It's campy, It's goofy, it moved from WB to UPN for crying out loud. There are thousands of shows I can think of better than that! (Untouchables, Dragnet, Flintstones) Most of the other shows were groundbreaking, or intellegent! Buffy is neither, in my opinion! And they spent five minutes on it. Half of it was Sarah Michell Gellar patting herself on the back, saying "I love me!" It's the only show she talked about! Probably the only one she knows of! I hate Miss Gellar!!! She's the reason I don't want to see Scooby Doo in theaters (I have to admit, it's type casting to make her the Ditz of the Mystery Inc. gang!) WHy couldn't they have picked, I dunno, The Muppet Show !?!?!? I'm sorry If I offended any fans, but to be up there with greats like Lucille Ball and Johnny Carson....

[Lu775]

Get over it.

[matleo]

I'm kind of surprised that "Sid Caeser's Your Show of Shows" wasn't on there. I mean, it's practcially the grandfather of 20th Sentury Americacn comedy having been the start for someo f the most prolific comedy minds in the bsiness including, Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, Woody Allen, and Larry Gelbart. As well as seting the stage for shows like SNL, Carol burnett and even our beloved Mupet Show.

I haven't seen anyone who has agreed with TV Guide's List so I haven't paid any attention to it. Ya know, when it comes down to it, who is this allmighty-TV GOD who says what the 50 greatest sohws have been? not worth getting all fussed up about if you ask me?

[Drtooth]

Sid Caesar? On My list or theirs? It was among the 50 shows. I'm proud to say that at least the mighty Caesar was listed on mine as well. Of course, time constraints (of mine) forced me to etc. etc. some of them. But I'm surprised that the only Muppet thing listed was Sesame Street (two if you count Scred and the rest from Saturday Night Live.)

[Fozzie Bear]

Maybe when I get back I"ll compile MY Top 50 Greatest TV Shows of All Time!!!

Really, I think that show was just a blown-up version of a TV Guide commercial!!

FOZ

[matleo]

Oh Sid Caesar was? I must have missed it any time I saw their list? Like I said I didn't pay TOO much attention to it. it's just TV guide actin like they're all that again.

--matt

[JaniceFerSure]

Well,I really don't pay attention to tv guide at all these days,cost too much & haven't bought one in years. Here's my fav. 50(the one's I watch,not in any order):


Seinfeld
M*A*S*H
All in the Family
Quantum Leap
CSI(William Peterson)
Columbo
ER
Hill Street Blues
Sopranos
Gilligan's Island
Bewitched
Bugs Bunny Looney Tunes
S** and the City
Twillight Zone(original)
Rosanne
Home Improvement
The Cosby Show
Good Times
Star Trek:TNG
Frasier
Cheers
The Muppet Show
Soap
The Simpsons
Mary Tyler Moore
SNL(with NRFPP)
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
The Monkees
Different Strokes
Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour
Carol Burnett and Friends
Laugh In
Friends
Courtship of Eddie's Father
Kroft Super Star Hour
Jeopardy
Three's Company
Mork and Mindy
WKRP in Cincinnati
Facts of Life
Will & Grace
That 70s Show
Drew Carey Show
Who's Line is it Anyway?
Sesame Street
Trading Spaces
QE4TSG
Dick Van Dyke Show
Happy Days
Laverne & Shirley

[Muppet Moppet]

That list was just stupid (not yours, Janice). I mean, there were definitely some good picks, but a lot of it seemed to be just what's hip, as it were, and not what's truly great television. However, I have to agree with Matleo, that it's not worth getting worked up over.

[Drum Eater]

Yeah, TV is pretty much trash nowdays. As long as the shows keep up with the fads and popular culture they do well. Characterization, originality, and morals have all pretty much been thrown out the window. :sympathy:

[Philo and Gunge]

Bugs Bunny Looney Tunes

Do you think Looney Tunes would really count. They were cartoons shown in theaters so, um... yeah.

[McFraggle]

Yeah, TV is pretty much trash nowdays. As long as the shows keep up with the fads and popular culture they do well. Characterization, originality, and morals have all pretty much been thrown out the window. :sympathy:

Well said. I haven't watched too much network tv in years. There is not much there that really appeals to me anymore, and I don't commit myself to watching too many shows anyway. Most of the time I find something more valuable and worthwhile on cable. :)

[baby sinclair]

1.Freaks and geeks
2.Fraggle rock
3.Three's company
4.Facts of life
5.Pete and Pete
6.Salute your shorts
7.Muppet Babies
8.Invader zim
9.Are you afraid of the dark
10.Degrassi next generation
11.Sesame street
12.Ahh real monsters
11.Whos the boss
12.Rockos modern life
13.South park
14.My little pony tales
15.Care bears
16.Good times
17.Shorties watching shorties
18.Bobby's World
19.Samurai jack
20.Charles in charge
21.King of Queens
22.Will and Grace
23.Muppet show
24.Dinosaurs
25.Fairly odd parents
26.All in the family
27.Jeffersons
28.Jetsons
29.Flintstones
30.Smurfs
31.Snorks
32.Gummi bears
33.Every body loves ramon
34.Dexters laboratory
35.Simpsons
36.Rugrats
37.Darkwing duck
38.Winnie the pooh
39.Hey Arnold
40.Mamas Family
41.Sponge BoB
42.Mega babies
43.Ren and Stimpy
44.Reno 911
45.Different strokes
46.Alf
47.Super mario bros super show
48.Story teller
49.Tiny toon adventures
50.Family Guy

[rexcrk]

My top 50 (in no special order)

1. SpongeBob SquarePants
2. Fairly OddParents
3. Jimmy Neutron
4. AAAHH!!! Real Monsters
5. Invader ZIM
6. Original Rugrats episodes
7. Danny Phantom
8. Tiny Toons
9. Looney Tunes
10. Animaniacs
11. Ninja Turtles (original)
12. Ninja Turtles (new)
13. Muppet Babies
14. Rocko's Modern Life
15. G1 Transformers
16. Beast Wars
17. Transformers R.I.D
18. The Simpsons
19. Who's the Boss
20. Roseanne
21. Cheers
22. Garfield & Friends
23. That 70's Show
24. Three's Company
25. Full House
26. The Muppet Show
27. Dinosaurs
28. I Love Lucy
29. Doug
30. Sesame Street
31. Angry Beavers
32. Catdog

and surprisingly enough, I can't think of anything else (and all I do is watch TV, lol :halo: )

[Daylight]

I personally like Buffy the Vampire Slayer a lot. I can understand why people think it's a bit... campy if they've never actually watched it. The title and the whole concept does seem a flaky and like a B movie horror flick and that tends to put people off and they don't give it much of a chance. But if you actually watch it (for more than just a few minutes), you'll find it's actually one of the best written, best produced shows on television with some of the most well rounded characters I know of. There's a lot of shows I like but that's the only show I watch that I can say that about.

[ryhoyarbie]

Yeah, TV is pretty much trash nowdays. As long as the shows keep up with the fads and popular culture they do well. Characterization, originality, and morals have all pretty much been thrown out the window. :sympathy:

I'd blame the network heads for keeping reality tv on the air. However, there doesn't seem to be any originality with television shows anymore that strike me as good. Shows like I Love Lucy, Cheers, Frasier, MASH, etc. were good because of the writing they had and the quality of the show that was being shown. I don't watch a lot of new stuff on television, but I find myself watching old programs that are good.

ryan

[DanDanStrawberry]

Here's mine...

Big Brother
Coronation Street
Will and Grace
Friends
Joey
Daria
The Simpsons
The Magic Roundabout
The Muppet Show
Sesame Street
French and Saunders
Absolutely Fabulous
Futurama
The Vicar of Dibley
****'s Kitchen
The Paul O'Grady Show
Hollyoaks
Teen Angel
8 Simple Rules
Home Improvement
Muppets Tonight
dinnerladies
Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway
TOTP
Footballer's Wives
Fat Friends
Allistair McGowan's Big Impression
Little Britain
Rock Profile
Fabulous Life Of...
The Office
Garfield and Friends
[Thinks hard]
Parkinson
The Kumars at No. 42
Only Fools and Horses
Rainbow
The Weakest Link
Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
Married With Children
Cheers
OK, I don't even think I've seen 50 shows before!!

[Kimp the Shrimp]

The Simpsons and all else is GARBAGE


Oh no i mean i love the Muppets and others but the SIMPSONS transend it all

[D'Snowth]

Here's my list of top 50 shows. (Yes, this list does include kiddie shows, but these are classics.

(in alphabetically order/any title in all caps means my most favorites.)
1. All That! (Original eps only)
2. America's Funniest Home Videos
3. America's Most Wanted
4. The Andy Griffith Show (B&W eps only)
5. Are You Afraid of the Dark?
6. Arthur
7. BEWITCHED (Dick York eps only)
8. Bobby's World
9. THE BULLWINKLE SHOW
10. CatDog
11. Clifford the Big Red Dog (First Season ONLY!)
12. COURAGE THE COWARDLY DOG
13. COW AND CHICKEN
14. Dexter's Laboratory (Original eps only)
15. Doug (Original eps only)
16. ED, EDD N EDDY
17. The Flintstones
18. Franklin
19. Freakazoid! (a Spielberg classic)
20. The Gene Autry Show
21. GREEN ACRES
22. Grim and Evil
23. Hey Arnold!
24. H.R. Pufnstuf (the only show with a laugh track, that didn't need a laugh track)
25. I Am Weasel
26. I DREAM OF JEANNIE
27. I Love Lucy
28. I Love the 70's
29. I Love the 80's: Strikes Back
30. The Jetsons
31. Johnny Bravo
32. Leave It to Beaver
33. The Little Lulu Show
34. Mister Ed
35. THE PLANET'S FUNNIEST ANIMALS
36. PLAY WITH ME SESAME
37. Police Videos
38. Recess
39. ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE
40. ROCKY AND HIS FRIENDS
41. Seinfeld
42. SESAME STREET
43. SESAME TOO (early 93 eps only)
44. SESAME UNPAVED
45. Stuart Little: The Series
46. Whose Line Is It Anyway?
47. WIMZIE'S HOUSE
48. Wishbone
49. World's Wildest Police Videos

Wow, it appears I'm one less than 50, oh well, some of these show are either not on any more, or I haven't seen in a long time.

[D'Snowth]

How come everytime when I post a response in a popular thread, then everyone else stops posting in that thread?

[Ziffel]

My best all time tv shows are Green Acres, The Andy Griffith Show, The Honeymooners, All in the Family, I Love Lucy, The Flintstones, The Twilight Zone, The Wonder Years, and , of course, Sesame Street. Two other ones that were film shorts but have been shown in tv show format for years that I also rank up there are The 3 Stooges (the Curly episodes) and Tom & Jerry (the 40's and 50's Tex Avery ones). There's a lot of other good shows I've enjoyed that aren't as good as these classics, like The Odd Couple, The Jeffersons, Alice, Dragnet, and Petticoat Junction.

[Ziffel]

How come everytime when I post a response in a popular thread, then everyone else stops posting in that thread?

Looks like this very thing happened to me too - it's been a month since the last post here! :)

There's a lot of other good shows I've enjoyed that aren't as good as these classics, like The Odd Couple, The Jeffersons,


I now have the complete third season of "The Jeffersons" and am going through a couple of those each day. As I said, I wouldn't rank it as high as "All in the Family" but I still find it to be a very satisfying and enjoyable show. Lots of funny people like Sherman Hemsley, Marla Gibbs (as Florence the maid), and Sesame Street's number painter Paul Benedict. There were a total of ten seasons and I intend to get every one of them as they are released to DVD. The show never "jumped the shark" to me, although, as with most shows, I thought the earlier seasons were the best ones. Actually in most shows I like I often feel that the first year or two were very good, but then by seasons 3 through 5 they got really excellent (as the charcaters were fully defined and perfected and the writing was really peaking) and then by the end of the series there is sometimes a little decline (sometimes due to characters leaving as with Don Knotts and Jim Nabors in "The Andy Griffith Show" and Rob Reiner, Sally Struthers and then Jean Stapleton in "All in the Family"). "Green Acres" also never jumped the shark to me. But that show was still going strong in 1971 with high ratings. CBS decided to cancel it as part of its purging of "rural" shows, like "The Beverly Hillbillies".
By the way, I love the theme song of both "Green Acres" and "The Jeffersons" ( Movin' On Up ). Some shows I fast forward past the opening theme songs but these two shows I can't resist the opening theme song every time!

[redBoobergurl]

Ok, here's my list of 50, and they are in NO particular order. I don't think I have a favorite show of all time.

1. Friends
2. Fraggle Rock
3. Muppet Show
4. Sesame Street
5. Full House
6. The Cosby Show
7. Fresh Prince of Bel Air
8. ER
9. American Dreams (and it's cancelled! :cry: )
10: Joan of Arcadia (also cancelled!)
11: I Love Lucy
12: The Dick Van Dyke Show
13. ALF
14. Sisters
15. Doogie Howser M.D. (I had SUCH a crush on him back in the day!)
16. Whose Line is it Anyway
17. Happy Days
18. Perfect Strangers
19. Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman
20. Seinfeld
21. Mad About You
22. Murphy Brown
23. Cheers
24. Fraiser
25. Scrubs
26. House M.D.
27. Who's The Boss
28. Growing Pains
29. The Wonder Years
30. Mr. Rogers Neighborhood
31. The Brady Bunch
32. The Flintstones
33. Garfield and Friends
34. Hey Dude
35. Today's Special
36. Pinwheel
37. The Simpsons
38. That 70's Show
39. American Idol
40. Saved By the Bell
41. Blossom
42. Gilmore Girls
43. I Love the 80's (ok, I know it was only a week long but I LOVED it)
44. The Real World
45. Rock and Roll Jeopardy
46. Lost
47. Coach
48. Designing Women
49. Touched By an Angel
50. Clarissa Explains It All

Yeah, so some of them are kids shows, but I think they are really good ones worth being on the list.

[That Announcer]

No time to do a full list of 50, so here's my shortlist (and these are in order):

1. Seinfeld
2. Eerie, Indiana
3. Penn & Teller: BS!
4. TMS
5. MacGyver
6. Get Smart
7. The Monkees
8. The Cosby Show
9. Good Eats
10. Saved By The Bell

[D'Snowth]

Now I remember why I was short one on my list, I forgot about M*A*S*H. Well, NOW my list is complete.

[Ziffel]

I forgot about one myself - Hawaii Five O. By far my favorite cop/detective crime drama of all time. And like "Green Acres" and "The Jeffersons", a wonderful music theme! Buh buh buh buh BUH BUHHHH... Bookem' Dano.

[That Announcer]

A few more, and these are NOT in order.

11. Whose Line Is It Anyway?
12. Who's The Boss?
13. Just For Laughs
14. Mythbusters (really belonged on my first list)
15. Daily Planet
16. How It's Made
17. I Love Lucy
18. The Munsters (ever notice how people in bars laugh like Herman?)
19. Leave It To Beaver ("Hope she's not giving you the business!")
20. The Jeff Foxworthy Show

[HPDJ]

1. Fawlty Towers
2. Eastenders
3. Coronation Street
4. The Muppet Show
5. Neighbours
6. Doctor Who
7. Murder she Wrote
8. Diagnosis Murder
9. The Simpsons
10. Only Fools and Horses
11. Blackadder
12. Muppets Tonight
13. The Paul O'Grady Show
14. Big Brother
15. Strictly Come Dancing
16. Strictly Dance Fever
17. Casualty
18. Holby City
19. Cutting it
20. Saved by the Bell
21. Scooby Doo
22. Sabrina, the teenage witch
23. Tucker
24. Futurama
25. Arthur

[That Announcer]

21. Today's Special
22. On the Buses
23. Keeping Up Appearances
24. Who Dares Wins
25. Soundstage
26. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
27. Emeril Live!
28. I Love Lucy
29. The Red Green Show
30. The Adventures Of Tintin
31. Dave's World
32. Gunsmoke
33. Space: 1999
34. Rocket Robin Hood (anybody else know this show?)
35. The Bugs Bunny and Tweety Show

[theprawncracker]

My top 40 (Yes some of them are kiddy shows, but get over it)

1. Family Guy
2. The Muppet Show
3. Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy
4. Dragonball Z
5. Sesame Street
6. Yu-Gi-Oh!
7. Futurama
8. Muppet Babies
9. The Fairly Oddparents
10. Spongebob Squarepants
11. Robot Chicken
12. Pokemon
13. Tiny Toon Adventures
14. Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers
15. Invader Zim
16. Muppets Tonight
17. The Simpsons
18. Sabrina the Teenage Witch
19. That's So Raven
20. Room Raiders
21. America's Funniest Home Videos
22. Animal Planet's The Most Extreme
23. Star Wars: Clone Wars
24. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
25. The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
26. Full House
27. The Cosby Show
28. Gilligan's Island
29. Teen Titans
30. X-men Evolution
31. Best Week Ever
32. Filter
33. Kim Possible
34. Recess
35. Doug
36. Rugrats
37. The Angry Beavers
38. Animaniacs
39. Degrassi The Next Generation
40. American Dad

[D'Snowth]

Here's my list of top 50 shows. (Yes, this list does include kiddie shows, but these are classics.

(in alphabetically order/any title in all caps means my most favorites.)
1. All That! (Original eps only)
2. America's Funniest Home Videos
3. America's Most Wanted
4. The Andy Griffith Show (B&W eps only)
5. Are You Afraid of the Dark?
6. Arthur
7. BEWITCHED (Dick York eps only)
8. Bobby's World
9. THE BULLWINKLE SHOW
10. CatDog
11. Clifford the Big Red Dog (First Season ONLY!)
12. COURAGE THE COWARDLY DOG
13. COW AND CHICKEN
14. Dexter's Laboratory (Original eps only)
15. Doug (Original eps only)
16. ED, EDD N EDDY
17. The Flintstones
18. Franklin
19. Freakazoid! (a Spielberg classic)
20. The Gene Autry Show
21. GREEN ACRES
22. Grim and Evil
23. Hey Arnold!
24. H.R. Pufnstuf (the only show with a laugh track, that didn't need a laugh track)
25. I Am Weasel
26. I DREAM OF JEANNIE
27. I Love Lucy
28. I Love the 70's
29. I Love the 80's: Strikes Back
30. The Jetsons
31. Johnny Bravo
32. Leave It to Beaver
33. The Little Lulu Show
34. Mister Ed
35. THE PLANET'S FUNNIEST ANIMALS
36. PLAY WITH ME SESAME
37. Police Videos
38. Recess
39. ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE
40. ROCKY AND HIS FRIENDS
41. Seinfeld
42. SESAME STREET
43. SESAME TOO (early 93 eps only)
44. SESAME UNPAVED
45. Stuart Little: The Series
46. Whose Line Is It Anyway?
47. WIMZIE'S HOUSE
48. Wishbone
49. World's Wildest Police Videos

Wow, it appears I'm one less than 50, oh well, some of these show are either not on any more, or I haven't seen in a long time.
Please forgive me, this list is no longer accurate, because a lot of those I don't really consider "great", some aren't even technically real TV shows, and one I don't even like anymore. Sorry.

Aw d a m n it, I just bumped a thread that hadn't been posted in since 2005... oh well.

[Son of Enik]

The top 10 are in order, after that it gets kinda random:
1-Sesame Street
2-Land Of The Lost
3-The Partridge Family
4-Welcome Back, Kotter
5-The Muppet Show
6-HR Pufnstuf
7-Miami Vice
8-Family Guy
9-Sigmund & The Sea Monsters
10-Planet Of The Apes (only ran for one season)
11-Captain Kangaroo
12-Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood
13-Different Strokes
14-Mr. Belvedere
15-The Brady Bunch
16-The Incredible Hulk
17-The Dukes of Hazzard
18-Perfect Strangers
19-Sanford & Son
20-Chico & The Man
21-The Love Boat
22-Fantasy Island
23-The Monkees
24-The Mickey Mouse Club (Before 1990)
25-Davey Crockett
26-Dark Shadows
27-All In The Family
28-Mystery Science Theater 3000
29-The Jeffersons
30-Lidsville
31-Far-Out Space Nuts
32-The Snorks
33-Barney Miller
34-Kojak
35-Quincy
36-The Odd Couple
37-The Greatest American Hero
38-Wonder Woman
39-The Great Space Coaster
40-Isis
41-The Pink Panther
42-Tony Orlando and Dawn
43-Flip Wilson
44-Perry Mason
45-Knight Rider
46-The Wiggles (my 11 month old turned me into a fan!)
47-The Hoobs (see above)
48-The Krofft Super Show
49-Ren & Stimpy
50-Batman (Adam West and Burt Ward...classic)

And there you have it, not alot of Award winners, but my personal favorites.)

[Gonzo14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSWqpxBHxSo

i made a video on this subject

[anytimepally]

Here are 36.. keep in mind I haven't owned a television for a few years.. these aren't in any order, except the first twelve or so are better than the others.. and Fraggle Rock and Bullwinkle would really be 1-2 if I were ranking:

Fraggle Rock
Bullwinkle
Tales From the Darkside
Alfred Hitchcock Presents
The Twilight Zone
Space Ghost: Coast to Coast
Titus
Hustle
Sanford & Son
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Monk
Bonanza
Sesame Street
The Muppet Show
Boston Legal
He-Man & the Masters of the Universe
Poirot
The Pink Panther Show
Silverhawks
Thundercats
Benson
Sports Night
The Boondocks
Star Trek
Sealab 2021
Monty Python's Flying Circus
The Adventures of Briscoe County, Jr.
Batman
Homicide: Life on the Street
Married... With Children
Battlestar Galactica (the Original)
I Love Lucy
The Andy Griffith Show
The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne
The Cosby Show
The Wonder Years

[Drtooth]

This thread is from about six years ago. Would you believe I still can't get over the fact they put "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on there. I gotta be the only one in the universe that doesn't like that show. No thank you.

[anytimepally]

I gotta be the only one in the universe that doesn't like that show.

two.

[dabauckham]

To be honest, I don't watch a lot of TV (lotta junk on and I don't have cable), but here goes.

In no particular order:

Twin Peaks (this is probably my favorite show ever, not very muppety I know, but a brilliant dark, weird, comic masterpiece, at least the first season is)

Sesame Street
The Simpsons
The Muppet Show
Fraggle Rock
Desperate Housewives
Between the Lions
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Whose Line is it Anyway?
American Idol (sometimes...)
Old Saturday Night Live (and some newer bits)
The Dave Chapelle Show

Looking at anytimepally's list, I realized my very serious deletion of THUNDERCATS!
The Wonder Years and the old Twilight Zone episodes are pretty great as well.

Also, I have the feeling that I would kind of love The Carol Burnett show, but have only seen bits. Any opinions on this?

[dabauckham]

two.


That makes three of us at least! ;)

[frogboy4]

This thread is from about six years ago. Would you believe I still can't get over the fact they put "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" on there. I gotta be the only one in the universe that doesn't like that show. No thank you.

I used to feel the same way. Have you watched a few Buffys in sequential order? The writing is sharp. It is intended to be campy and often makes fun of itself. It would definitely go in my mid-top 50 along with The Muppet Show, Fraggle Rock, I Love Lucy, Law & Order, Gilmore Girls, Invader Zim, AbFab, Murder she Wrote, Batman the Animated Series, Veronica Mars, Sports Night, Family Guy, X-Files, Mr. Bean and many others that escape my attention at the moment.

The thing about these lists is that they are created to sell issues so people can agree and disagree with them. It's lazy writing and a cheap ploy by entertainment mags to sell issues. These lists are usually riddled with modern programs that will soon fade while other more classic programming is overlooked.

Buffy, however, is not one of them. The fact that it changed networks had little to do with popularity and more to do with salaries and budget constraints. There is actually a very popular "season 8" in graphic novel form right now selling like crazy! Word is that there will eventually be a theatrical release (not associated with the 90s movie of course). I have the whole DVD series and I'll tell you it's one of the most solid shows I've ever seen.

By the way, Joss Whedon is creating a new program for Fox titled "Dollhouse" staring Eliza Duskhu (known for playing Buffy's friend Faith) as a spy whose memory is erased and recreated with each mission. Could be good, could fizzle. We'll see. He does have a solid network commitment so it won’t immediately go the way of many other Fox shows.

Sorry to bump your old thread, but once it's out there it's out there and fair game! :o

[Skye]

That makes three of us at least! ;)
And here's four of us, lol! :D I'm sorry, but Buffy's just not a show I can personally get into.

50 is really a lot. I'm not sure I could name that many shows as my faves. I'm not even sure I could name 10 shows that I consider to be the greatest of all time. I don't watch enough TV, and I'm insanely (and too) picky, lol.

[Ilikemuppets]

Well said. I haven't watched too much network tv in years. There is not much there that really appeals to me anymore. Most of the time I find something more valuable and worthwhile on cable. :)

I have to agree and say that I feel the exact seem way you do. Theres just not much at all that appeal to me anymore on network TV let alone cable.

And I'm the exact same way when it comes to TV. I'm very picky when it comes to choosing what I like and watch on Television.

[Drtooth]

I used to feel the same way. Have you watched a few Buffys in sequential order? The writing is sharp. It is intended to be campy and often makes fun of itself.

Ehhh... to me, it was a show geeky people watched because they thought Sarah Michelle Gellar was hot. :rolleyes: (kidding... kidding...well, maybe just a little) I don't know why, but I never liked her. Had I known she played April in the new TMNT movie, I wouldn't have seen it (and coming from a green blooded TMNT fan, that is something). Not that she didn't do a great job, though. Don't know why I tolerated her in both Scooby Doo movies... of course, the woman playing Velma was hot....

I did like the Puppet show episode of Angel, though. But again, it's not my type of thing.

[frogboy4]

Ehhh... to me, it was a show geeky people watched because they thought Sarah Michelle Gellar was hot. :rolleyes: (kidding... kidding...well, maybe just a little) I don't know why, but I never liked her. Had I known she played April in the new TMNT movie, I wouldn't have seen it (and coming from a green blooded TMNT fan, that is something). Not that she didn't do a great job, though. Don't know why I tolerated her in both Scooby Doo movies... of course, the woman playing Velma was hot....

I did like the Puppet show episode of Angel, though. But again, it's not my type of thing.

I would admit it if true, but I'm unfortunately not that geeky a guy (except when it comes to Muppets). Odd, but not geeky per say - and my libido swings the other way so Gellar's hotness factor doesn't phase me. She's okay, I guess. Depends upon the lighting. Anyway, I find that reasoning presumptuous and contrary to my taste for the show. I've met fans of all types in my daily life. If I watched a science fiction television program for hotness value I’d still be tuning into Smallville or Supernatural, but those programs don’t have the qualities I admire from Joss Whedon’s work.

It was Buffy’s clever writing that got me. I must admit that I was initially dismissive of the show and passed it off as a guilty pleasure until seeing enough episodes to note how well crafted it was in many respects. That's what kept people coming back, not the star-power or hotness factor. It really didn't have much of either. However, if you'd watched a few full episodes Buffy you'd realize that title aside it was very much an ensemble show.

I didn't like Gellar's work in the Scooby Doo movies, but hers’ was not the worst performance. Her husband, Freddy Prinze Jr. (who I probably should find hot, but don't) made for a horrible Fred!

My love of film (well, maybe I'm film geeky) would not prevent me from seeing a picture due to the inclusion of any particular actor. If that were true I would have missed every Kevin Costner movie (and there are a few good ones). I don't understand that logic. I didn’t agree with casting Gellar for April in the latest TMNT movie. She wasn’t horrible, but didn’t bring anything to the table either. It could have been anyone. :rolleyes:

Somebody should coin a new phrase for this like “Chipmunked” (after the recent motion picture) for pointless voice casting of trendy actors that serves no purpose except promotion.

Recap of Buffy attributes: Clever writing, story archs, character relationships, modern mythology, campy, witty with a sense of humor about itself.

I can still see why some wouldn't give it a chance and why others, even given a chance, still may not find it their thing. No judgements either way. :attitude:

[Drtooth]

I didn't like Gellar's work in the Scooby Doo movies, but hers’ was not the worst performance. Her husband, Freddy Prinze Jr. (who I probably should find hot, but don't) made for a horrible Fred!

Fred's Fred made him come off way too stupid, instead of the straight headed leader of the group. I blame the script too.

I didn’t agree with casting Gellar for April in the latest TMNT movie. She wasn’t horrible, but didn’t bring anything to the table either. It could have been anyone. :rolleyes:

Funny thing about that. The studio wanted big names to appear in the film, and the Mirage group (the creators of TMNT) didn't want that. So they let them appear in the film, but you didn't know it was them until the end credits. It wasn't untli 2 weeks when the film was out did they actually do any advertising about what celebrities were in the film.

I exaggerate, though. i would have seen it anyway. Though, I heard that Grey Delise (Voice actress, current voice of Daphne in Scooby Doo, as well as Mandy in Billy and Mandy to name a few) was supposed to be in the film. Maybe she was penciled in to play April. Or at least did her voice in the scratch track.

[frogboy4]

Fred's Fred made him come off way too stupid, instead of the straight headed leader of the group. I blame the script too.

And don't for get the distracting and problematic blonde hair he has in those pictures. He seemed more like a club-kid's costume party Fred.

I'm showing my age here, but I remember when Tiffany (even then a pop-star past her prime) replaced the regular performer for Judy Jetson in their theatrical film. It was odd and unfortunate.

[Ilikemuppets]

I'm showing my age here, but I remember when Tiffany (even then a pop-star past her prime) replaced the regular performer for Judy Jetson in their theatrical film. It was odd and unfortunate. I felt the same way to at first, too.