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Ilikemuppets
04-25-2008, 12:34 AM
Ouch! that's all I'm going to say personally...

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - "Saturday Night Live" veteran Jimmy Fallon has sealed a deal to succeed "Late Night" host Conan O'Brien on NBC in 2009, sources said.
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O'Brien, whose show airs at 12:35 a.m., is moving to Los Angeles next year to replace Jay Leno at "The Tonight Show," which airs an hour earlier.

NBC is expected to make the announcement on May 12 during its "upfront" presentation to advertisers in New York. The network declined comment on Thursday.

Fallon, 33, co-starred on "SNL" for six seasons, and co-hosted its "Weekend Update" segment. He left the show to focus on making features, although such efforts as "Fever Pitch" and "Taxi" fell flat at the box office.

Fallon's new gig as "Late Night" host stems from a development deal he signed with NBC in early 2007. He will probably stay at O'Brien's Studio 6A at New York's 30 Rock, although details have not been confirmed.

The move further cements NBC's late-night transition, which is making Leno a highly sought-after free agent. ABC and Fox are reportedly circling the top-rated comic, while NBC is trying to keep him in the company fold with a new show.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

Speed Tracer
04-25-2008, 08:59 AM
Conan HAD to have had some say in this. I have faith in Conan; therefore, I have faith in Fallon.

Demetri Martin, Michael Ian Black or Andy Richter would have been much better, but I do think Fallon could do this right. Maybe this is the place he's meant to shine.

Drtooth
04-25-2008, 09:08 AM
What kind of world do we live in where Jimmy Fallon still has a career? I mean seriously. He's not that funny. He really isn't.

D'Snowth
04-25-2008, 09:19 AM
No... no... no... this can't be happening!

So what's going to happen to Jay Leno then? And are they going to try to rub out Jimmy Kimmel as well? What'll happen to David Letterman? !

Speed Tracer
04-25-2008, 09:24 AM
Kimmel and Letterman aren't on NBC so this doesn't affect them.

Drtooth
04-25-2008, 09:41 AM
No... no... no... this can't be happening!

So what's going to happen to Jay Leno then? And are they going to try to rub out Jimmy Kimmel as well? What'll happen to David Letterman? !


Jay Leno is said to have made a deal with FOX to make a new late night show. I don't know if NBC was forcing him out, or he wanted to leave, but i can tell you this... Fox cannot make a late night show. Remember what happened with Chevy Chase?

D'Snowth
04-25-2008, 10:03 AM
I got a better idea... keep Conan on his show, keep Leno on his show, get rid of that Craig Ferguson jerk, and let Jimmy Fallon replace him instead!

dwayne1115
04-25-2008, 11:25 AM
For Late night they need someone with some energy. Like Conan had, but Jimmy Fallion does not. To me Jimmy Fallon was boring and was not even really good on SNL. I would really love to see someone like Louie Anderson make a comeback. Then again what do I know.

ryhoyarbie
04-25-2008, 12:42 PM
For Late night they need someone with some energy. Like Conan had, but Jimmy Fallion does not. To me Jimmy Fallon was boring and was not even really good on SNL. I would really love to see someone like Louie Anderson make a comeback. Then again what do I know.

Louie Anderson? Whoa! Hold on a tick there. Anderson creeps me out with that weird voice and those buggy eyes. But tis it's my opinion.

Agreed with everyone that Jimmy Fallon isn't funny. He was never funny on SNL and I thought he tried to hard.

frogboy4
04-25-2008, 01:00 PM
Leno named Conan as his replacement years ago so that there would be a smooth transition and to avoid the Leno/Letterman feud of the 90s. He said that he wanted to finish out the current political season because that would be finishing on top for him. Jay was to retire after that, but it appears now he's had second thoughts.

:search: This confirms the suspicions brought about by Letterman's camp back when David lost the Tonight Show and moved to CBS. Jay has a poor sense of loyalty. He's rich enough, but I guess he still wants to be in the game even though he arranged this deal in the first place. NBC isn't forcing Leno out, they're just maintaining the plans initiated by Jay and amazingly keeping loyal to Conan even though his ratings have taken a dip. :cool:

Whoah! That was a rant. He He. And about Fallon...can you say rebound host? At least it's not going to Ryan Seacrest. Did Carson Daly pass? Is he still on? My choice (although he probably was offered it and turned it down) is Andy Richter. Heck, give it to Wanda Sykes instead of Fallon. She's funny and has been reduced to second bananna to Old Christine and a talking apple in Alplebee's commercials. :rolleyes:

Ilikemuppets
04-25-2008, 01:08 PM
give Conan the job that they would have to pay him a sum of forty million anyway.

But what's Jimmy Fallon going to do during monologues, laugh at his own jokes?:rolleyes:

Teheheman
04-25-2008, 07:07 PM
I think they should've promoted Carson Daly, I mean his shows HAVE gotten funnier over the years, I think that he could hold a 12:35 shot. Jimmy Fallon? I dunno, I mean, he's not the best guy out there. As far as Fox goes, I have 2 words for ya....ARSENIO HALL! So, I mean it CAN be done. I guess you'll have to look at the writing and if that's any good or not. The guy can be the best in the world, but if the writing sucks, then there's nothing. Here's what I think. It's gonna be like Conan's first 3-4 years. Kinda weird, awkward, and just not really as funny as it could be. Conan being on the Tonight Show is gonna rock cause I think that even though he's in his 40s, he'll bring a youthful energy to the show that the Tonight show is lacking. I mean, mostly older people watch the Tonight Show, and the younger audience watch Conan. That's my understanding anyways.

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
04-25-2008, 07:32 PM
Anyone rememebr Joan Rivers Late night show on fox? It didn't do so well over all. But I believe part of the reason NBC Is handing the Gig over to Conan is because Fox was actually trying to lure him over to their network and a better time slot against Jay and Dave and they didn't want that.

MrsPepper
04-26-2008, 10:17 AM
I love Conan. He needs an 11:30 time slot! He seriously deserves it. Leno is/was okay, I guess, but both him and Letterman are old. I'm not really amused by anything they say. I think Conan is more in touch with younger people then they are.

As for Jimmy Fallon... :/

Drtooth
04-26-2008, 10:30 AM
Heck, give it to Wanda Sykes instead of Fallon. She's funny and has been reduced to second bananna to Old Christine and a talking apple in Alplebee's commercials. :rolleyes:


Heck, give it to the Applebees Apple (with no one voicing it). It's got more personality and talent than Fallon. His Robin Williams impersonation is only OK, Maurice LaMarche can do much better. But other than that, I just don't see the appeal. Of course, I have fault with anyone on SNL post Adam Sandler....

Speed Tracer
04-26-2008, 11:58 AM
The idea itself of doing a Robin Williams impression just seems redundant to me.

Drtooth
04-26-2008, 12:01 PM
The idea itself of doing a Robin Williams impression just seems redundant to me.Mmm... it does, now that you think of it. But then again, in the case of Maurice LaMarche (and also Dan Castellenetta), they were filling in for a celebrity too expensive to cast in a weekday afternoon cartoon..

I refer to his portrayal as Robin Kill'ems in a Tiny Toons cartoon called "Stand Up and Deliver". But then again, Maurice LaMarche can pretty much imitate half of Hollywood, past and present.

Jeez. How come being a hack on SNL makes you more respectible than being a voice actor with actual TALENT?

Speed Tracer
04-26-2008, 12:24 PM
LaMarche just isn't as well-known as Fallon, which is sadly unfortunate.

I don't actually like Fallon, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. There are so many better people for the job. I mean, heck... I remember seeing an interview with Paul Rudd where he said it was his dream at the time of doing "Clueless" and Super Nintendo commercials to host a late night show. We'd lose seeing Paul Rudd in the movies, but imagine how fantastic it would have been to have HIM replace Conan!

frogboy4
04-26-2008, 01:42 PM
I love Conan. He needs an 11:30 time slot! He seriously deserves it. Leno is/was okay, I guess, but both him and Letterman are old. I'm not really amused by anything they say. I think Conan is more in touch with younger people then they are.

As for Jimmy Fallon... :/

In my day it was Dave that was young and fresh. Guess I still see that. I remember when he did a walk on for Conan in his early days when O'Brien was still struggling. Letterman may be crass, but he is always a class act. I see him as more cranky than old guy. He always had that. The day he retires will be a sad day for me. :(

Leno...is just not that interesting to me. He's the kind of comedian that takes a couple of cocktails to laugh at. I still think Fallon is a bandaid fix until they find a more suitable replacement.

Better replacements:
Andy Richter, Wanda Sykes (or the Wanda Sykes Apple), Patton Oswalt, Denis Leary, Hal Sparks, Amy Poehler, Dave Chappelle, David Spade (is his show still on?), Will Arnett (from Arrested Development), Mario Cantone, Samantha Bee, Kathy Griffin, Lewis Black, Seth Green, Paul Reubens, Bob Odenkirk, David Cross, Dave Attell, Will Forte, Colin Quinn, Eddie Izzard, Graham Norton or even Conan's own "Pimpbot 5000" would make for a better host than Fallon. That's one long somewhat viable list with 22 real names of funny people many of whom would jump at this chance. :coy:

However, let's not forget Conan's initial ciriticisms. Man is he funny and I think the Bob Dole television sketches in the mid 90s are what pushed him over the top. ;)

MrsPepper
04-26-2008, 03:00 PM
Jamie, of the names that you listed, I think all the ones I recognize would be better than poor Jimmy Fallon. He just doesn't seem the type.

I was just thinking... maybe it's time for Jon Stewart to get a network show? :confused:

Ilikemuppets
04-26-2008, 06:09 PM
I would hope that having a net work show wouldn't water down John Stewart's hilariousness.

But Patton Oswalt I could really see working, It's just that I think he's better suited to the comedy stages, but he sounds perfect. But Paul Reubens would be a dream come true!

frogboy4
04-26-2008, 06:48 PM
Paul Reubens would be a dream come true!

I wonder if he'd bring Chairy! Of course you know she's voiced by the wonderful Ms Cyndi Lauper. :coy:

Ilikemuppets
04-26-2008, 07:35 PM
Oh that would be awesome if he brought Chairy along!

dwayne1115
04-26-2008, 08:23 PM
This would be a great time to see some of the HA stuff henson has been working on.

Ilikemuppets
04-26-2008, 09:37 PM
What does "Henson Alternative" have to do with Jimmy Fallon replacing Conan O'Brien?

frogboy4
04-26-2008, 09:51 PM
What does "Henson Alternative" have to do with Jimmy Fallon replacing Conan O'Brien?

There's a puppet sketch show that Henson is getting on the air and they also created a pilot for a puppet late night talk show that never took off. That's propbably what Dwayne is referencing - that having Henson puppets host a talk show would be great and much better than Fallon. :flirt:

Ilikemuppets
04-26-2008, 09:56 PM
Oh I see! Would be very interesting to see and would be funnier and a lot more interesting than Fallon, haha!:D :p

Drtooth
04-27-2008, 07:58 AM
I wonder if he'd bring Chairy! Of course you know she's voiced by the wonderful Ms Cyndi Lauper. :coy:

Eh, he wants to move away from that... which explains the delay in the supposed "Special edition" Pee Wee DVD's with commentary.

But I could see everyone in that list working well with late night. Even him, if he wants to do it straight, and not play Pee Wee all the time.

There's a puppet sketch show that Henson is getting on the air and they also created a pilot for a puppet late night talk show that never took off. That's propbably what Dwayne is referencing - that having Henson puppets host a talk show would be great and much better than Fallon.

here's the shame. We'll probably never see that, but we will see Jimmy Fallon trying to keep people awake for a late night show. I bet even fans of his SNL bits would be disappointed in how he'll come across.

dwayne1115
04-27-2008, 08:05 AM
I Think he will do sort of ok when talking to guests but doing his own comody I just don't think will work because he needs someone else to be funny off of. I don't really understand why they would go with Fallon, I thought they would want someone with Talent!

frogboy4
04-27-2008, 09:15 AM
Eh, he wants to move away from that... which explains the delay in the supposed "Special edition" Pee Wee DVD's with commentary.

But I could see everyone in that list working well with late night. Even him, if he wants to do it straight, and not play Pee Wee all the time.

(I was kind of kidding there with the Chairy comment. Note that I didn't say Pee Wee should have a show. I'm certain there would be rights issues anyway.):rolleyes:

Teheheman
04-27-2008, 04:50 PM
What about ALF? He had HIS own talk show for a little bit. Sucked in the ratings, but it wasn't HORRIBLE. Might be kinda cool to see him do another show like that.

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
04-27-2008, 08:01 PM
here's the shame. We'll probably never see that, but we will see Jimmy Fallon trying to keep people awake for a late night show. I bet even fans of his SNL bits would be disappointed in how he'll come across.

You called it right on the money. I mean him trying to keep people awake and amused?:sleep:

But yeah! Having ALF would seem like it were some kind of gimmick, he could co host. Again, funnier and more entertaining then Fallon.:D

Drtooth
04-28-2008, 08:11 AM
But yeah! Having ALF would seem like it were some kind of gimmick, he could co host. Again, funnier and more entertaining then Fallon.:D


..even with no one puppettering the guy, ALF has more talent. So, about his talk show... what was that, like on some odd cable network at some random time late at night? You can't blame it for having terrible ratings. Too bad the only resurgance of the character was that one talk show and the old 1010 220 commercials. Such a waste of the character.

Teheheman
04-28-2008, 03:05 PM
It was on TVLand, and I can't remember what time it was on, but it was really cool to see ALF on TV again. You're right. Even without a puppeteer, he would probably do better than Fallon, although, I say give him a chance on the show before you say he sucks.

Daniel

travellingpat
04-28-2008, 03:52 PM
i think you guys are underestimating jimmy fallon, i always thought he did a good job on weekend update and i think that this will help him on here....i think he'll do just fine...and i dont remember who it was but someone called craig ferguson a "jerk" um dude have you ever watched his show? hilarious! i dont know how you cant like him, oh well everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion

Ilikemuppets
04-28-2008, 06:19 PM
i think you guys are underestimating jimmy fallon, i always thought he did a good job on weekend update and i think that this will help him on here....i

But, he giggles entirely too much and it grating.:p

Drtooth
04-29-2008, 07:50 AM
and i dont remember who it was but someone called craig ferguson a "jerk" um dude have you ever watched his show? hilarious! i dont know how you cant like him, oh well everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion

I'm not sure he's a fan of anything that stemmed out of the Drew Carey show... and as Craig played Mr. Wick, I could see what he's getting at.

But I really do like Craig. I've seen bits of his show, and I thought it was really hillarious.

JJandJanice
05-04-2008, 12:46 PM
But, he giggles entirely too much and it grating.:p

Yeah, it kinda seems like he is his own biggest fan or something.

Well I won't be wacthing that's all I can say, not a fan of Fallon at all.

Ilikemuppets
05-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Ouch! I hope the rating do not just plummet and I truly hope that he is just a hold over until they can get a real funny host.

Teheheman
05-05-2008, 04:03 PM
Eh, I wouldn't worry about it, I mean, I do think that they may take a little hit, but it's like with any show. SNL for example, once the big names leave, and a whole new cast comes, the ratings drop and the show suffers because of it. Conan's first few years were bad as far as ratings go, but they were really good shows.....that I hear, I didn't stay up that late to watch em.

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
05-05-2008, 09:38 PM
I wonder why his ratings have been slipping as of lately, though?

Ilikemuppets
02-24-2009, 10:24 PM
In test runs, Jimmy Fallon has been reading his hate mail that people have been sending him about taking over Late Night.

He is just silly and Not funny.

Teheheman
02-24-2009, 10:34 PM
It would be interesting to see next week how he does, who knows? He might be good, I don't wanna cut the man short, but he's got some big shoes to fill

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
02-24-2009, 11:45 PM
It would be interesting to see next week how he does, who knows? He might be good, I don't wanna cut the man short, but he's got some big shoes to fill

Daniel
So does Conan! Steve Allen, Jack Paar, Jay! The pressure is on! :shifty:

Baby Gonzo
02-25-2009, 08:06 AM
Didn't Conan originally meet harsh criticism when he took over late night? I don't care for Jimmy Fallon (He just isn't funny to me), but I guess people should give him a chance before getting out the pitchforks and tar and feathers.

I think my concern is that Conan's humor may be too much for the 11:30 time slot. I have a feeling some things that would have made it in the 12:30 time slot will be censored in this earlier time. I hope all works out.

Drtooth
02-25-2009, 10:27 AM
I just don't understand why Leno and Conan didn't just trade completely. Considering the stink that Leno gave NBC till they buckled and gave him that 10:00 show that hasn't been formally announced yet.

That said, imagine if Andy Richter took over the Late Late show.

Ilikemuppets
02-25-2009, 02:52 PM
I just don't understand why Leno and Conan didn't just trade completely. Considering the stink that Leno gave NBC till they buckled and gave him that 10:00 show that hasn't been formally announced yet.

That said, imagine if Andy Richter took over the Late Late show.I think that Andy is going to be the Tonight Show announcer.

travellingpat
02-25-2009, 03:25 PM
Yeah I heard hes going to be Conans announcer/sidekick,

animal0606
02-25-2009, 03:26 PM
I like Jimmy Fallon but his late show gig wont last long maybe a little longer then his film career but not much longer.I cant see him working out.

Drtooth
02-26-2009, 08:09 AM
I still don't understand the terms of what happened to Jay. He graciously bowed down than later on felt that he got the bum's rush, and then whined about not getting work... Fox initially felt this was an opportunity, but the plan fizzled and NBC caved in and gave Leno some 10 PM show...

Is that right, or am I missing something?

Teheheman
02-26-2009, 10:18 AM
Personally, I think that they should have shifted everybody up a spot. Conan to the Tonight Show, and Carson Daly to the Late Night spot. THEN probably put Jimmy Fallon in the Last Call spot, and then maybe you'll have a good line-up, but every person that has done a late night show has to have a couple years before you get to really judge them.

Daniel

frogboy4
02-26-2009, 11:32 AM
I really don't favor Daly or Fallon. Both had minimal entertainment value to me that expired long ago. I think NBC should have started fresh and picked a new talent.

I find it Leno's hanging on and bumping an hour off NBC's prime time to be cheap and tacky. This cuts the legs out from under Conan's show and I hope it bombs so NBC will actually fill that hour with dramatic programming. Trust me; they're not cutting off a sitcom or reality show for that spot. NBC will likely be mostly disposable TV once this happens.

I’m a Letterman guy anyway. The only real issue that I have is also liking Conan (especially with Richter). :cool:

Teheheman
02-26-2009, 06:55 PM
First off, they haven't really HAD and quality programming on NBC at 10 for a while. I mean, yeah some of it is ok, but with ER going and some of the shows getting bumped, that would give some of the quality 10pm shows some real time to get a better audience. Leno would be interesting to see, and Fallon would be interesting to see how he does ya know? I can't wait to see how things turn out.

Daniel

frogboy4
02-26-2009, 07:07 PM
First off, they haven't really HAD and quality programming on NBC at 10 for a while. I mean, yeah some of it is ok, but with ER going and some of the shows getting bumped, that would give some of the quality 10pm shows some real time to get a better audience. Leno would be interesting to see, and Fallon would be interesting to see how he does ya know? I can't wait to see how things turn out.

Daniel

I like my Law & Orders (formulaic, yet comforting and well produced), but ER has been skipped by me for nearly a decade (too many implausible character combinations/situations for my taste). It's that 10 pm hour of television where the interesting things would happen. Now we'll have Jay Leno shtick. :rolleyes: Still jazzed about Conan and Richter! :super:

Ilikemuppets
02-26-2009, 08:18 PM
Personally, I think that they should have shifted everybody up a spot. Conan to the Tonight Show, and Carson Daly to the Late Night spot. THEN probably put Jimmy Fallon in the Last Call spot, and then maybe you'll have a good line-up, but every person that has done a late night show has to have a couple years before you get to really judge them.

DanielYeah, I was actually thinking the same thing not too long ago.

I really don't favor Daly or Fallon. Both had minimal entertainment value to me that expired long ago.Yeah! I definitely agree with you there. I've always viewed Carson as just a tool to me. But he is kind of funny on his show.

I It's that 10 pm hour of television where the interesting things would happen. Now we'll have Jay Leno shtick. :rolleyes: Still jazzed about Conan and Richter! :super: kind of suprised They didn't replace the local news with him.:p

dwayne1115
02-26-2009, 09:21 PM
Conan said in his last late night show that he was not going to chasnge who he was. He said he had heard people saying it was time for him to grow up for the Tonight Show, and that it wasn't going to happen. Most people who watch late night or the tonight show or even the late show watch it not for the guest stars but for the host. If Conan was to be something totlay diffrenet he would losse many fans who have fell in love with the Conan of the late show.

I'm also going to give Jimmy Fallon a chance, and I think we alll should. He does have some preety big shoes to feel, but if he makes it his own as Conan did I think he will do fine.

Drtooth
02-27-2009, 08:06 AM
First off, they haven't really HAD and quality programming on NBC at 10 for a while. I mean, yeah some of it is ok, but with ER going and some of the shows getting bumped, that would give some of the quality 10pm shows some real time to get a better audience. Leno would be interesting to see, and Fallon would be interesting to see how he does ya know? I can't wait to see how things turn out.



That's really the only reason NBC agreed to it. Plus they know that crabby, older Jay Fans would have actually tuned in to Fox's Jay show if that ever did happen.... I still think it was very unprofessional of Jay to whine about something he was previously okay with, and a 10 PM show is just caving in to avoid any competition/law suits that could have materialized. Jay's okay... I mean, he is the Crimson Chin, after all...

But ER's finally getting put down, and NBC can easily move half the Law and orders to other 9 PM slots where they had no hits. As long as it doesn't effect Heroes or NBC's Thursday comedy line up (Except for Kath and Kim... for the love of Mike, that show is TERRIBLE), I could care less, since that's basically the only things I care about on their network.

And somehow, even if it is a flop, I'd think that there's some contractual obligation that would let it on the air as long as the contract says so....

dwayne1115
02-27-2009, 09:23 AM
Well for someone who has been an ER fan for a long time, I really think that after this season people will want it back. This season they really have gone back to the basics of what made the show work, and it has been one of the best seasons we have had in a few years.
As for there comodys i think NBC is doing preety good right now they have 30 Rock and the Office that are doing very well right now. They also have one coming out soon that looks funny called Parks and Recreation, so I think that whoever is coming up with the comofy is finaly getting it.
Then there is Celberty Apprentece, which was a shocker of a rateings hit. It's coming back, and this season looks better then the first.
So NBC even though they have had a tuff few years seem to really be trying to but some good things out. I just hope that Jay will be a good fit for the time slot.

Drtooth
02-27-2009, 09:47 AM
Then there is Celberty Apprentece, which was a shocker of a rateings hit. It's coming back, and this season looks better then the first.

I frankly hope that show flops. I want to see that era of programming come to a rightful end at once.

Ilikemuppets
02-27-2009, 10:02 AM
They also have one coming out soon that looks funny called Parks and Recreation, so I think that whoever is coming up with the comofy is finaly getting it. Yeah! I cant wait for that show!

vaati64
02-27-2009, 11:19 AM
I can't wait to watch parsk and recreation, mostly because it's by the same creators of the office. I don't think I am gonna watch Late Night starting on Monday, though. I just don't like Jimmy Fallon. He's not as funny as Conan

JJandJanice
02-27-2009, 03:22 PM
I'm not a fan of Jimmy Fallon myself, and from what it seems a lot of people don't really dig this idea.

But who knows what will happen, if he does well, good for him, that's all I can really say.

dwayne1115
02-27-2009, 03:54 PM
Well look what they did when Conan started here was a no name TV writer, with no on air TV experiance, and gave him a huge chance. So at first this may seem like a bad idea but look at the past.

dwayne1115
03-01-2009, 03:47 PM
Fallon starts on Monday who is going to watch! I think i will just to see Tina Fay. Who really seems to be becoming a big star as of late!

Teheheman
03-01-2009, 03:55 PM
I'll watch just to see how he does. I mean, he's not gonna be Conan but then again, it took him a few years to kinda get the feel of it. To get the flow, so give him a while, and we'll see.

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
03-01-2009, 03:58 PM
Well look what they did when Conan started here was a no name TV writer, with no on air TV experiance, and gave him a huge chance. So at first this may seem like a bad idea but look at the past.Well that's just it. I mean Jimmy in a way had his chance to prove in self in the public eye before, and he just didn't prove to be all that great. Maybe there is something I'm just not seeing in him and Loren Michaels donws? Who knows?

Conan didn't have that same judge ment as Jimmy does for the fact that people didn't know him... So that could judge himand that at least had to give him a chance. We know what Jimmy is like, so we have always rady mae judgements on him besed on what we have seen and known for years. Plus, there is a possibility that they could have made a big mistake and over looked Loren's beter judgemenat because he has been right before.

But I will say this. I do have to give evrything at least one chance before I decsied if it's any good or not. Of course ther are going to be people who say that it's not as god as Conan's late night... That is to be expected. Imean the same things happend woith Conan afer all where they said that Dave's late nihgt was the best/better and will always be that way.

JJandJanice
03-01-2009, 04:06 PM
I honsetly don't think I'll brother wacthing it, I'm just not a Jimmy Fallon fan. But I'll be a nice guy and wish him good luck in his new late night gig, :D.

Though truth be told I don't really wacth a lot of late night talk shows anyway

dwayne1115
03-01-2009, 05:04 PM
Well I don't care for his movies but I kind of thougt he was funny when on SNL. Of corse when he was on he was having to kind of compet with Will Ferrel, and Tina Fay. So there may have been things he could have done diffrently.

Ilikemuppets
03-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Well I don't care for his movies but I kind of thougt he was funny when on SNL. Of corse when he was on he was having to kind of compet with Will Ferrel, and Tina Fay. So there may have been things he could have done diffrently.I guess you're right, but for me there was no competition there, because Will Farrel and Tiny Fay are funny to me.

He has said some funny things, though.

Drtooth
03-01-2009, 06:39 PM
Well look what they did when Conan started here was a no name TV writer, with no on air TV experiance, and gave him a huge chance. So at first this may seem like a bad idea but look at the past.

But then again, his Simpsons episodes were some of the best there have ever been. Fallon has never made me laugh at all... even Will Ferrel made me laugh on occassion before his onslaught of hit or miss films.... I did really enjoy Anchorman, and I didn't even think I would.

There inlies the problem... while Conan had no experience, Fallon had experience, but let's not forget that a lot of people don't find him funny at all. The writers are gonna have to work hard to get him to that level.

I'm just concerned Conan won't be able to do any of his schtick, since people want Jay's show in that time slot....

dwayne1115
03-01-2009, 09:05 PM
But then again, his Simpsons episodes were some of the best there have ever been. Fallon has never made me laugh at all... even Will Ferrel made me laugh on occassion before his onslaught of hit or miss films.... I did really enjoy Anchorman, and I didn't even think I would.

There inlies the problem... while Conan had no experience, Fallon had experience, but let's not forget that a lot of people don't find him funny at all. The writers are gonna have to work hard to get him to that level.

I'm just concerned Conan won't be able to do any of his schtick, since people want Jay's show in that time slot....

I don't know I think that Conan fans will keep watching The Tonight Show!

vaati64
03-01-2009, 09:27 PM
I don't think that I'll watch late night with Jimmy Fallon either, but I may at least watch his first episode to see if I will like it

vaati64
03-02-2009, 12:56 AM
I am particularlly excited to see Conan coming out here to Los Angeles. I live an hour to an hour and a hlaf away from LA. Although, my parents don't like Conan, so I ay have to use the birthday excuse just to go see Conan

dwayne1115
03-02-2009, 12:12 PM
Shoot ya that would be so cool!

Teheheman
03-02-2009, 01:16 PM
I'm planning to go and try to see Conan when I'm go to LA later on this year. I hope that I get in cause sometimes they only allow a certain amount of people there ya know? I'm ready to see how Jimmy Fallon does tonight, he has high expectations, and we'll see if he'll meet them tonight.

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
03-02-2009, 02:08 PM
I am particularlly excited to see Conan coming out here to Los Angeles. I live an hour to an hour and a hlaf away from LA. Although, my parents don't like Conan, so I ay have to use the birthday excuse just to go see ConanI hope you get a chance to go. I mean he is in pretty high demand.

dwayne1115
03-02-2009, 02:22 PM
Yea Conan is going to be a hot item to get into for a little bit i would love to be there on the very first show, but I know the crowds for that historic show would be a whole lot.

Here is what im thinking about. We kind of know what Conan is going to be like on the Tonight Show, but we really don't know much about what Leno is going to do with his new show. Leno's new show will be a huge first as well, and i just hope that it won't take some of Conan's spotlight away.

frogboy4
03-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Conan was a talented comedy writer yet came from relative obscurity so he had a lot to prove and big shoes to fill in replacing David Letterman. Fallon was one member of the SNL ensemble cast, but was never able to gain audience appeal as a single act even though he was given several chances so it will be interesting to see if he can hit the right note this time.

I always found Leno's program to be low-brow humor that connected to a mainstream college crowd sort of audience. It worked the same way that McDonald's is popular. It requires little investment and blandly serves a wider palette than Letterman's more specific cerebral and goofy antics.

Conan fell on his face for the first couple of years before he became comfortable enough to go for broke and let his freak flag fly. Fallon seems like the class cut-up to me. The one that tries to hard and is uncomfortable for me watch.

Talk shows have been in prime time before. Leno's isn't the first. I do wonder what his format will be and what that entire block of NBC will be like. Leno, Conan, Fallon and then Daly? That's four hours of talk right? They'll be competing for guests within their own network. The perk for Conan being bumped up to the Tonight Show is about the wider choice of guests and increased viewers. It was Leno's decision to relinquish his post and he picked Conan. Now he's stealing his thunder. Old habits are hard to break, I suppose. This all has a familiar feeling of worming the Tonight Show away from Dave.

I just don't know what to think. :confused:

Ilikemuppets
03-02-2009, 03:07 PM
Yeah, I mean they were always Paring Fallon with Horatio Sanz who had his funny moments, but do not put those two in the same room at the same time together or they will both become very unprofessional and stumble over lines from the cue card man and giggle like schoolchildren through the whole thing.:rolleyes: It's just turns me off from liking them...:p

I do agree about that that's what Jay's humor is like, but it's interesting, because Dave in the one famous for attracting the collage crowd. And not the honor belongs to Conan, because he really has that crowd right now.

dwayne1115
03-02-2009, 03:15 PM
Yea and From what i can see from watching some Late Night with David Letterman clips on Youtube, is that Dave has pretty much stayed the same though out his shows, and I think If Conan was to change who he was for the Tonight Show then fans would be going for Letterman. Also I have seen some interviews done by Jay about his new show and I don't think he will have guests, and just be mostly comody. In some way I kind of wish that they would do that with Conan insteed of Jay. Becaise Conan has more energy younger and still willing to do things out of the studio. Like the old time base ball skit that i keep watching over and over the last few days.

dwayne1115
03-03-2009, 07:00 AM
Umm anyone watch I did and well i was not inpressed Conan made a nice little apperence at the first though.

vaati64
03-03-2009, 11:07 AM
Umm anyone watch I did and well i was not inpressed Conan made a nice little apperence at the first though.



I watched it, and I'm sorry, it SUCKED! He could've done a way better job. That was the first and last episode of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon that I'm going to watch. He hardly made me laugh. In fact I think I only laughed once or twice during the monolouge, and even then, I laughed way harder when Conan did Late Night

Teheheman
03-03-2009, 12:24 PM
It was ok, I mean, he's TRYING to be the next David Letterman it seems, and he really should be himself and loosen up a little bit. It might be better when he gets a year or 2 in like Conan did but for now, he should just be prepared for the first couple years to be bad.

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
03-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Hmm... I missed it. I mean I will take you guys word for it, but I still do have to give the first episode a chance, anyway.

Teheheman
03-03-2009, 01:43 PM
Hmm... I missed it. I mean I will take you guys word for it, but I still do have to give the first episode a chance, anyway.
I missed it too, but I saw the episode on Hulu.com and thought that it was alright, I mean, I figured about a year or 2 to really see how the show goes.

Daniel

ryhoyarbie
03-03-2009, 02:09 PM
Saw the show last night. I was not that impressed with his "lick something for 10 dollars" bit.

vaati64
03-03-2009, 02:46 PM
Saw the show last night. I was not that impressed with his "lick something for 10 dollars" bit.


Oh, I know, that was kinda gross when the last guy licked the fish bowl! That, and I still can't figure out why he used a checklist for his first guest.

Teheheman
03-03-2009, 04:19 PM
I think it's because Robert DeNiro doesn't like to talk much so he made up a list of questions that had one word answers so that he could answer them. I say give Fallon a break, I mean, he's new, he's not used to this, he's trying to be like talk-show host were before him and he just needs to find his own style ya know?

Daniel

Ilikemuppets
03-03-2009, 08:08 PM
I saw the show! Over all it was okay!

dwayne1115
03-03-2009, 11:29 PM
ha ha fallon was preety funny tonight!

vaati64
03-04-2009, 12:06 AM
I think it's because Robert DeNiro doesn't like to talk much so he made up a list of questions that had one word answers so that he could answer them. I say give Fallon a break, I mean, he's new, he's not used to this, he's trying to be like talk-show host were before him and he just needs to find his own style ya know?

Daniel




yeah, you're right. I think I'll give it a month or two before I make my real descision.

vaati64
03-04-2009, 12:08 AM
I hope you get a chance to go. I mean he is in pretty high demand.



Yeah, me too! Although, I'm not at the "age limit" yet. If it's going to stick with the 16 rule, then I'll have to wait a year and 3 months before I can see Conan live

Ilikemuppets
03-04-2009, 12:18 AM
Yeah, me too! Although, I'm not at the "age limit" yet. If it's going to stick with the 16 rule, then I'll have to wait a year and 3 months before I can see Conan liveI think he had an exception one time when N'SYNC was on there one time. Lots of screaming young people in his audience who probably had no idea who say of his other guest ever were... *shrugs*