Muppet parody puppets on Crank Yankers

[MIKEB97]

Hey Guys,

There were replicas of Big Bird, Miss Piggy, and Kermit the Frog in Crank Yankers. Miss Piggy and Kermit were making love and Big Bird was hacking a cigarette outside a building named 321. Has anyone else seen this?

[Zack the Dog]

There were replicas of Big Bird, Miss Piggy, and Kermit the Frog in Crank Yankers. Miss Piggy and Kermit were making love and Big Bird was hacking a cigarette outside a building named 321. Has anyone else seen this?


...I saw the Kermit and Piggy


Zack) Rowlf the, that's dirty...Dog.

[Crazy Harry]

I saw it to. God, that pig was ugly.

[Muppet Pro]

Crank Yankers has made fun of The Muppets Long ENOUGHT!


I heard Of Henson VS. Disney.


And Now It's Time For Henson VS. Crank Yankers.

[Crazy Harry]

Oh just pull the broomstick out of your but already.

Crazy:crazy:Chris

[Muppet Pro]

Some One Should Make A Henson VS. CC Tape (Like The Henson Vs. Disney tape.)

[MrsKalabash]

Originally posted by Crazy Harry
I saw it to. God, that pig was ugly.

What do you expect? All the Crank Yankers puppets are ugly. Poorly made, muppet rip-offs. IMO, if you're going to make fun of something, do it with skill. I remember the Conan O'Brien "Muppets Faces of Death" bit. Whoever made the drowned Piggy - now that took SKILL. I know how weird this sounds, but the replica looked pretty good, at least the face did. The Kermit looked like himself as well - at least until he hit the pavement. :D

[sarah_yzma]

Originally posted by MrsKalabash
The Kermit looked like himself as well - at least until he hit the pavement. :D

well whenever i hit pavement, i don't look nice!

Sarah

[Gonzo14]

Also, the simpsons had PBS chasing Homer, and they had Big Bird, Elmo, & Oscar, (but Big Bird Could fly. & Elmo was in the Garbage with BLUE Oscar):zany:

[Muppet Pro]

Originally posted by Gonzo14
Also, the simpsons had PBS chasing Homer, and they had Big Bird, Elmo, & Oscar, (but Big Bird Could fly. & Elmo was in the Garbage with BLUE Oscar):zany:

Did The Simpsons Make The Sesame Street Muppets Look Creepy In That Scene ? Like Did They Put Angry Eyes On Them Or Something like that ?

[Muppets1985]

Last night on VH1 or one of them dar music channels lastnight had a show called well...I don't remember the name of the show but it waz somthing like "Music that sucks" or somthing like that, but any wayz They were pickin on "J-lo" on like how many biy friends shes gone throught or somthing and they had Big Bird and Grover on there but they wern't puppets they were like cartoon cut outs and the guy in back of Big Bird shot him! :( :grouchy: i waz sooo mad:mad: then after words i poped in "Fallow that Bird" and that made me feel better!:)

[Gonzo14]

sadly, yes

[Muppet Pro]

Originally posted by Muppets1985
Last night on VH1 or one of them dar music channels lastnight had a show called well...I don't remember the name of the show but it waz somthing like "Music that sucks" or somthing like that, but any wayz They were pickin on "J-lo" on like how many biy friends shes gone throught or somthing and they had Big Bird and Grover on there but they wern't puppets they were like cartoon cut outs and the guy in back of Big Bird shot him! i waz sooo mad:mad: then after words i poped in "Fallow that Bird" and that made me feel better!


That's Horrible !
Spoofs Like That Make Me Scared :o And Then It Makes Me Really MAD! :mad:

[BoyRaisin2]

That show you're talking about probably was "Behind the Music That Sucks" on MuchMusic USA, my favorite channel tied with MTV2 (sitting through the BTMTS promos is torture, I wish they'd cancel the show).

As for the Crank Yankers puppets, I happen to think they're really well-done. Sure, the pig was ugly, but that's all I notice.

[trekkie1701E]

The Simpsons made Oscar look alright, but Elmo looked downright mean!

Mister Rogers: "It's a beautiful day to kick your a$$!" LOL

[Muppet Pro]

Originally posted by trekkie1701E
The Simpsons made Oscar look alright, but Elmo looked downright mean!

Mister Rogers: "It's a beautiful day to kick your a$$!" LOL

How About Big Bird On The Simpsons,
Did they make him look downright mean too ?

[sarah_yzma]

well elmo kinda scares me...so i would probably laugh really hard at a mean elmo

Sarah

[Super Scooter]

"Elmo knows where you live!"

Just let the Simpsons, or whoever, have fun. They can pick on the Muppets if they like! They're Muppet fans anyway! Most people who pick on Muppets (though not all) are Muppet fans. Someone once told me "We only pick on you because we like you."

And, the Crank Yankers puppets DO look pretty good. They don't look cheaply made, in my eyes. I don't really like the show, but, even I have to admit this.

[sarah_yzma]

Originally posted by Super Scooter
"Elmo knows where you live!"



i'm having nightmares tonight!!!!

Sarah

[Super Scooter]

Just wait till Matt gets my picture up. :o

[muppet maniac]

There were replicas of Big Bird, Miss Piggy, and Kermit the Frog in Crank Yankers. Miss Piggy and Kermit were making love and Big Bird was hacking a cigarette outside a building named 321. Has anyone else seen this?--------------------
I've seen the Big Bird one last night! eek! He looked evil! It scared the dash dash dash dash outta me!

[Squigiman]

Hey gang,
First off, I think this thread is mistitled. These are not replicas, as such things are replicating the originals, not just imitating them. I got all excited about someone possibly owning one, or hearing news of Disney letting them get made or something. Anyways, as far as the Crank Yankers are concerned, I saw it, one day, with the 123 building, and realized it was a shot at Sesame, but then they had Kermit and Piggy. Besides not making sense, what occured would certainly not be considered "making love" by any stretch of the imagination. Either way, it was a really base-level obvious joke that any ten year-old could have come up with, not funny, and just being crude for the sake of crudity. The Simpsons' use, however, was funny and clever, and I think it does depend on how the joke is handled, for it to be rightly accepted by fans. Sure you can just act like everyone just needs to "take a joke", but seriously, jokes tend to be funny. Whether the Crank Yankers people like the Muppets or not does not justify such blatant, immature use of the characters' likenesses, especially when their show would never existed without Jim Henson, in that they entirely copy that puppeteering style. Sorry to rant, but just thought I'd speak my opinion. Thanks for listening.


-Squigiman

[Buck-Beaver]

I already posted this over in the puppetry forum, but speaking of Muppet parodies/replicas ~ http://www.bear-town.com/backstage_pages/video_berniechess.htm (the video on the page may take a few minutes to load if you have a slow connection).

This is an old clip from something I was involved with back around `98.

[Mr.Penguin]

With the new Henson-Disney deal you think this might happen (a little bit)
less? Then again, they make fun of Disney too... :sympathy:

[Bean Bunny]

In the Simpson episode, Big Bird was potrayed as danger Raptor like animal that could fly. Oscar: "Give Us The Money". Elmo: "Elmo knows where you live!". I love that line. Mmmph Line.

[Show and Tell]

I already posted this over in the puppetry forum, but speaking of Muppet parodies/replicas ~ http://www.bear-town.com/backstage_pages/video_berniechess.htm (the video on the page may take a few minutes to load if you have a slow connection).

This is an old clip from something I was involved with back around `98.Hey that pig would really look like Peter Mansbridge if you were to get him suit coat and a few tufts of hair just over the ears. Post a pic or 2 of him when your done Buck. Pleeeeease

[leliebel]

I personally like Crank Yankers, I like humor that goes over the line sometimes. I dislike overly politically correct humor, like Disney's. Muppet's have always gone a bit farther than them.

And parody is a form of flattery anyway.

Does anyone have screenshots of this? I'd love to see it. I only saw a few episodes and it isn't aired in the netherlands anymore.

[leliebel]

I already posted this over in the puppetry forum, but speaking of Muppet parodies/replicas ~ http://www.bear-town.com/backstage_pages/video_berniechess.htm (the video on the page may take a few minutes to load if you have a slow connection).

This is an old clip from something I was involved with back around `98.

Buck-Beaver has escaped!

lol :D Bernie and Bernie are hilarious!

[HeraLirambar]

"Elmo knows where you live!"i'm having nightmares tonight!!!!

Sarah
Not me! I'm not going to sleep... Elmo'll eat me... can't sleep... Elmo'll eat me...
:p

[Buck-Beaver]

Hey that pig would really look like Peter Mansbridge if you were to get him suit coat and a few tufts of hair just over the ears. Post a pic or 2 of him when your done Buck. PleeeeeaseThanks, I'm going to be putting pics of him and a slew of other puppets I've been doing up in the next little while. Right now there are a bunch (including the Peter Manspork puppet) that are 80-90% done. I actually haven't worked on him since I took that picture. :o

[Lone Wolf]

I saw those parody puppets on Crank Yankers, outside the doors of 321. The Kermit parody didn't even remotely resemble Kermit and the Big Bird parody looked like him, but was poorly designed -- you could SEE feathers falling off it.

[Puppetplanet]

I saw those parody puppets on Crank Yankers, outside the doors of 321. The Kermit parody didn't even remotely resemble Kermit and the Big Bird parody looked like him, but was poorly designed -- you could SEE feathers falling off it.
*rolling on the floor laughing*


Maybe it was molting season? :p

[BoyRaisin2]

The Kermit parody didn't even remotely resemble Kermit

It was a cool-looking frog though.

[MrTheFrog]

I saw those parody puppets on Crank Yankers, outside the doors of 321. The Kermit parody didn't even remotely resemble Kermit and the Big Bird parody looked like him, but was poorly designed -- you could SEE feathers falling off it.

Did it ever cross your mind that the feathers falling off might have been part of the "gag"?

[Super Scooter]

What do you expect? All the Crank Yankers puppets are ugly. Poorly made, muppet rip-offs. IMO, if you're going to make fun of something, do it with skill.
Hehe. It might be nice to point out that the man who made some of the Crank Yankers puppets has been known to check out these boards ocassionally. In fact, he's the same guy who made the puppets for Avenue Q, and has performed on numerous ocassions on Sesame Street.... hmmmmmmmm.

You can visit his website at www.ricklyon.com

[Puppetplanet]

*laughing even harder*


I was going to mention something like that, but decided to stay out of this one. :D

[Buck-Beaver]

They also can't make the characters look *exactly* like Kermit for legal reasons.

[scarylarrywolf]

Hey gang,
Either way, it was a really base-level obvious joke that any ten year-old could have come up with, not funny, and just being crude for the sake of crudity. The Simpsons' use, however, was funny and clever, and I think it does depend on how the joke is handled, for it to be rightly accepted by fans. Sure you can just act like everyone just needs to "take a joke", but seriously, jokes tend to be funny. Whether the Crank Yankers people like the Muppets or not does not justify such blatant, immature use of the characters' likenesses, especially when their show would never existed without Jim Henson, in that they entirely copy that puppeteering style.

Very nicely put. Do they even have writers for shows like this? I am REALLY sick of shows with a lack of thought behind them in which every other joke is dirty. Sixth graders could have come up with some of the stuff they do on this show. We need some imagination exercising on TV.

[MrTheFrog]

Do they even have writers for shows like this?

Actually yes they do. The writers write the premises for the calls. Also, they sit in the room (while the comedians are making the calls) with a dry-erase board, listening and scribbling ideas to help the comedians with the direction of the call. And when the call is finished they write all the puppet actions, posters, and any gags that take place. So yeah even thought all the crank calls are actual real calls, the writers play a big part.

And yes, Rick Lyon is indeed a phenomenal puppet builder, but he actually only built a handful of the puppets for Crank Yankers (the horse, monkey, gay frog, Niles Standish's head, and a few others.) The rest were built by a company called Den Design which does alot of stuff for SNL (and employs mostly former Henson employees), and some freelancers (also former Muppet builders). So it always makes me laugh when people say how badly made the Crank Yankers puppets are, because they were built by the same individuals, (using the same materials and methods) who have been building everyone's favorite frog for many many years.
-Artie

[Puppetplanet]

*clapping hands & laughing*


I love it! Well said!

[Buck-Beaver]

Very nicely put. Do they even have writers for shows like this? I am REALLY sick of shows with a lack of thought behind them in which every other joke is dirty. Sixth graders could have come up with some of the stuff they do on this show. We need some imagination exercising on TV.
You should really check out Puppets Who Kill (http://www.puppetswhokill.com). No US network will carry it because they say it's either "too Canadian" or "too vulgar" but it's really brilliant in a subversive kind of way, especially the second season. It's not for the faint of heart - there's no "full puppet nudity" or anything like that but it does make Avenue Q look like a G-rated movie.

[Ryan]

I agree with Artie. What's so ugly about these puppets? I think they are actually very well done. And as for Rick's puppets, well, the Avenue Q puppets are possibly the most beautiful puppets I've seen in a very long time. The CY puppets are obviously built very well.

[Buck-Beaver]

...The rest were built by a company called Den Design which does alot of stuff for SNL (and employs mostly former Henson employees), and some freelancers (also former Muppet builders). So it always makes me laugh when people say how badly made the Crank Yankers puppets are, because they were built by the same individuals, (using the same materials and methods) who have been building everyone's favorite frog for many many years.
Actually Artie, I have it on very good authority that The Crank Yanker puppets were originally designed by a company called Funny Garbage - which is not known for it's puppet work but who's design style Jimmy Kimmel (one of the series' creators) liked and so they were asked to do the puppets despite knowing almost nothing about puppet construction (this happens a lot more in the business than you'd think).

F.G. pulled together an in-house shop to do most of the characters and "Crank Blanks". I don't know for certain that any of the staff specifically worked for Henson, but it's very likely since most of the experienced LA/NY "puppet people" in the industry have gone through the doors of the Muppet shop at some point in their careers.

Some of the puppet building work was sub-contracted to folks like Rick Lyon and it's entirely possible that was the case with Den Design. These other companies may have become more relied upon after the 1st season. I can't say for sure. It's pretty common for multiple companies to work on a show like this (that was done on Between the Lions too) which creates confusion. I am 99.5% certain Funny Garbage is the main company involved though.

[Buck-Beaver]

...The rest were built by a company called Den Design which does alot of stuff for SNL (and employs mostly former Henson employees), and some freelancers (also former Muppet builders). So it always makes me laugh when people say how badly made the Crank Yankers puppets are, because they were built by the same individuals, (using the same materials and methods) who have been building everyone's favorite frog for many many years.
Actually Artie, I have it on very good authority that The Crank Yanker puppets were originally designed by a company called Funny Garbage (http://www.funnygarbage.com) - which is not known for it's puppet work but who's design style Jimmy Kimmel (one of the series' creators) liked and so they were asked to do the puppets despite knowing almost nothing about puppet construction (this happens a lot more in the business than you'd think).

F.G. pulled together an in-house shop to do most of the characters and "Crank Blanks". I don't know for certain that any of the staff specifically worked for Henson, but it's very likely since most of the experienced LA/NY "puppet people" in the industry have gone through the doors of the Muppet shop at some point in their careers.

Some of the puppet building work was sub-contracted to folks like Rick Lyon and it's entirely possible that was the case with Den Design. These other companies may have become more relied upon after the 1st season. I can't say for sure. It's pretty common for multiple companies to work on a show like this (that was done on Between the Lions too) which creates confusion. I am 99.5% certain Funny Garbage is the main company involved though.

[Puppetplanet]

Actually, on the Lyon website if you go thru the photos of his work there are photos fo multiple puppets that he designed and built for Crank Yankers.


Regardless of who made them, I agree that the work is clever and well done in addition to the show being totally funny and a joy to watch.

[scarylarrywolf]

You should really check out Puppets Who Kill (http://www.puppetswhokill.com). No US network will carry it because they say it's either "too Canadian" or "too vulgar" but it's really brilliant in a subversive kind of way, especially the second season. It's not for the faint of heart - there's no "full puppet nudity" or anything like that but it does make Avenue Q look like a G-rated movie.


Oh yeah, I browsed that website a while ago and thought the concept was funny as heck, but was annoyed that US TV wouldn't broadcast it. How can I get ahold of those episodes?

[MrTheFrog]

Actually I know the information I've provided to be 100% accurate, as I've been with the show since before we started production back in January 2002. In Season 1, I was a part-time puppeteer, builder, and wrangler, and in seasons 2 and 3, I've been a principal puppeteer.

Actually Artie, I have it on very good authority that The Crank Yanker puppets were originally designed by a company called Funny Garbage (http://www.funnygarbage.com) -

That is absolutely true. Funny Garbage designed each and every character for the show. But Funny Garbage, run by Peter Girardi is purely a visual company (design work, websites etc..). They have no knowledge of puppet building, and as such have never built puppets for the show.

...which is not known for it's puppet work but who's design style Jimmy Kimmel (one of the series' creators) liked and so they were asked to do the puppets despite knowing almost nothing about puppet construction (this happens a lot more in the business than you'd think). F.G. pulled together an in-house shop to do most of the characters and "Crank Blanks".

Jimmy does love their design work, but again at no time have they ever built any of the puppets. In fact I was there the day Special Ed (our first puppet)was delivered from Den Design, and Peter and Todd(one of FG's main artists) came to the set to see their drawing brought to life.

I don't know for certain that any of the staff specifically worked for Henson, but it's very likely since most of the experienced LA/NY "puppet people" in the industry have gone through the doors of the Muppet shop at some point in their careers.

I can assure you that that was the case. In fact the very talented Eric Englehart, a former Henson builder, who designed and built Pepe the Prawn, also built Elmer Higgins, the character that I perform (voiced by Jimmy Kimmel).

Some of the puppet building work was sub-contracted to folks like Rick Lyon and it's entirely possible that was the case with Den Design. These other companies may have become more relied upon after the 1st season. I can't say for sure. It's pretty common for multiple companies to work on a show like this (that was done on Between the Lions too) which creates confusion. I am 99.5% certain Funny Garbage is the main company involved though.

Actually for 1st season Den Design built about 95% of them with the remainders built by BJ Guyer, Rick Lyon, Ron Binion, and myself. In second and third season (which we're working on right now) we used some freelance puppet builders, as well as a few full time builders that we hired to work on the lot.

-Artie

[MrTheFrog]

Actually, on the Lyon website if you go thru the photos of his work there are photos fo multiple puppets that he designed and built for Crank Yankers.

Rick is an incredibly talented Puppet Builder, but alot of the puppets he's holding on his Crank Yankers pages are characters he performed rather than built. I wish he had built more of them. His puppets are very finely crafted and much easier to manipulate than alot of the other ones.

-Artie

[Buck-Beaver]

Thanks for clearing up that Artie...there has been some press and industry stuff that made it out like Funny Garbage actually ran the shop, which never made any sense to me - why hire them with so many capable builders and companies in LA? I suspected they either hired a lot of experienced freelancers or sub-contracted the work.

So who are in the principals in Den Design?

[MrTheFrog]

Thanks for clearing up that Artie...there has been some press and industry stuff that made it out like Funny Garbage actually ran the shop, which never made any sense to me - why hire them with so many capable builders and companies in LA? I suspected they either hired a lot of experienced freelancers or sub-contracted the work.

So who are in the principals in Den Design?

Exactly, there are so many skilled builders looking for work it would be ridiculous, but the press in general seems to always have their facts wrong when it comes puppet things as I'm sure you've experienced.

As far as who is at Den Design now, I'm not really sure. We shot the first season in NY, but the next two have been out here in L.A. A guy named Bob Flanagan was running things when we were there. He might actually be the owner..I was never sure.

-Artie

[Buck-Beaver]

Ah, Ron Binion's site (http://home.earthlink.net/~ronbinion/crankyankers_001.htm) mentions Den I think. Should have caught that sooner. There's more pics from the set here (http://home.earthlink.net/~ronbinion/CYseason2.htm) too I see.

I'm assuming Rick did not do season 2 or 3 in LA?

[MrTheFrog]

I'm assuming Rick did not do season 2 or 3 in LA?

No he didn't.

-Artie

[Puppetplanet]

Ahhh, now see, I had always thought that Rick Lyon built several of the crank yanker puppets! I got that impression from reading his website...... must have been one of those late night discoveries again. *laughing*

[Matteo]

Looks like I'm the only one that hasn't seen the show :o :cry:
Anyone here has got a picture or a clip of the sketch? I'd like to see it, just for information. Tahnks,

See ya! :smirk:

[Buck-Beaver]

There's a few pics and some info at http://www.funnygarbage.com/client/case_study.php3?proj=32 and there is some video clips and behind the scenes stuff on Comedy Central's site at http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/crankyankers/

[JaniceFerSure]

I just posted a new thread on this subject,didn't know someone else had(or had seen it).Yup,its pretty far out there(especially to have BB smoking w/ downward eyebrows to make him look mean). :boo:

[Muppet Pro]

NEWS FLASH
I just clicked threw the channels and I caught a piece of Crank Yankers just know and I see a spray painted Ernie & Bert on a brick wall, It had Ernie with a machine gun and on the bottom it said "R.I.P" And Some male puppet having a long kiss with Oscar, Then the guy left and Oscar said "ohhhhhh...." (in depression) (And It really sounded like him to) And Then he takes a tissue and cries. And Then they show a puppet woman with a cell phone walking down with a spray painted Sesame Street set in the background !
:mad: Man, I can't wait until that show is Canceled !!!!!!!! :mad:

[punkNpuppets]

dude whats up with you? not only do you hate crank yankers but you don't want anyone else watching it? and when you wrote a letter asking them to change the show, what did you want them to do anyways? make phone calls where they say "have a nice day, jesus loves you" or whatever? while YOU may think a show like that deserves an emmy, you gotta remember that there are people out there (like me) who think crank yankers is hilarious. so quit nagging, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[punkNpuppets]

does anyone have a pic of the crank yankers kermit? i wanna see what he looks like

[GonzoLeaper]

dude whats up with you? not only do you hate crank yankers but you don't want anyone else watching it? and when you wrote a letter asking them to change the show, what did you want them to do anyways? make phone calls where they say "have a nice day, jesus loves you" or whatever? while YOU may think a show like that deserves an emmy, you gotta remember that there are people out there (like me) who think crank yankers is hilarious. so quit nagging, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't say I care much for Crank Yankers either, which is why I don't watch it. Anyway, by the way, I just wanted to say, "Jesus loves you!" and He loves everyone! :)
I know punk 'n' puppets was trying to make a point, but remember that there are people who do love Jesus and would rather not have their faith denigrated. :attitude:

[Muppet Pro]

dude whats up with you? not only do you hate crank yankers but you don't want anyone else watching it? and when you wrote a letter asking them to change the show, what did you want them to do anyways? make phone calls where they say "have a nice day, jesus loves you" or whatever? while YOU may think a show like that deserves an emmy, you gotta remember that there are people out there (like me) who think crank yankers is hilarious. so quit nagging, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess your right. I'm Sorry about that. But I just hate it when people make The Muppets look like Sissies, Jerks and weak. I'm afraid that their going to make a negative comment and let other people believe this. Plus The fact of getting away with Nudity on Television. The Point that I'm trying to get at is I know that not everybody's a Muppet / Henson fan, But I don't want not only for people to see this and believe that The Muppets are for sissies, BUT The show comes on at 8:30 at night and kids might catch this behaver and try or test it at home. Sorry If I had offended you Crank Yankers fans, But say if (some) people watch Crank Yankers and later when The Muppets are back on Television, People would give them a dirty look !

[punkNpuppets]

I can't say I care much for Crank Yankers either, which is why I don't watch it. Anyway, by the way, I just wanted to say, "Jesus loves you!" and He loves everyone! :)
I know punk 'n' puppets was trying to make a point, but remember that there are people who do love Jesus and would rather not have their faith denigrated. :attitude:

sorry bout that dude im christian too, but i would not be happy if crank yankers went to that format. kind of like run-dmc was good (and one of the ONLY good rap bands) when they started because they were all tough and rebellious, but i didn't like them when they started "rappin' for jesus". because that wasn't the run dmc that i know...am i making sense? :confused:

[Iokitek]

Well first of all Crank Yankers will never become a Christian show so I don't even know why this is being discussed. Besides that I didn't think that remark was in any way offensive. So I don't even see the problem. Except when you make one out of it. And secondly Jesus has passed away a long time ago. So he's not here and even if he was, he would be pretty mad at all the so called "Christians" who idolize him instead of worshipping God alone. So no, he does not love everyone. Ironically enough he would turn away friom those who claim to love him most. Not to mention those who claim to be Christian but don't want anything to do with religion when it comes down to it.

For instance when a bunch of rappers start rapping about Jesus alot of Christians even think that this is lame. Actually I think this is good because it can raise awareness. Although I might not agree with the lyrics in question. But most people have a natural adversity towards any religion. Even their own. That's mainly because they were just raised that way and actually don't really care or have any knowledge. They're just keeping up appearances for their community or whatever. Just look at all the gangster rappers who wear a big golden cross around their neck for instance. Some of them are good examples of complete hypocrites. Hypocrites come in all shapes and sizes though. And I know some of you are probably personally offended by my remarks about Christianity in general. But I don't care. I hope it's food for thought to others.

But I realize this is not a place to discuss religion. Anyone interrested in commenting can always message me or visit my blog or something. My recent entry was about Ramadan (wich is this month) and it has some links that might be usefull to those who would like to know more. I believe this thread is already very old and I don't think anyone cares about this whole Crank Yankers "discussion" anymore. Especially not when it suddenly becomes about religion aswell. Let's just talk puppets and leave Jesus out of it from now on. :) Unless it's a Jesus puppet perhaps.

[punkNpuppets]

So he's not here and even if he was, he would be pretty mad at all the so called "Christians" who idolize him instead of worshipping God alone. So no, he does not love everyone.

not to mention the gay bashing anti-semetic "christians".

Just look at all the gangster rappers who wear a big golden cross around their neck for instance. Some of them are good examples of complete hypocrites. Hypocrites come in all shapes and sizes though.

i agree. do you watch mad tv? cuz there was this one sketch on there that made fun of that. aries spears was being a gangsta rapper who won a grammy, and when he went up to the podium and was like "i most wanna thank the man upstairs, couldnt have done it without him"..then phil lamaar enters dressed as God and goes up to the podium and says that he wants rappers to stop thanking him and how he hates rap. "i never supported any songs with the words '*****, ho, dope, or jiggy'" well something like that, im sure you can download it.


anyways back to crank yankers, i'm sure i'm the only one on the board who can say this, but crank yankers is the show that made me want to be a puppeteer. it was the summer of 2002, i watched the first episode and once it was over i was like "that's what i wanna do, make puppets." welp, without learning how to make puppets, i built phil and washington (who both looked terrible, but hey, i was just a rookie...and i still kinda am...)

[Iokitek]

Actually I do believe that some gangsters are good people beneath their thug exterior. Growing up in the getto must not be easy. But it's not always an excuse for bad behaviour though. I've never seen that madTV sketch. Because well I live in the Netherlands and it's not aired here. But I'll see if I can find it somewhere.

I'm very opinionated about homosexuality aswell though. So I kind of relate to gay bashing. Just not the bashing part :p I believe it is wrong for two people of the same gender to have sexual relations. But when dealing with hermafrodites or transsexuals the issue becomes quite complicated ofcourse since these issues are scientifically proven to be real. And I'm not saying that when someone has feelings for someone else of the same gender that those feelings would not be real. I just think that they are tested with those feelings. Just like heterosexuals are tested with their sexual urges.

Anyway :) about Crank Yankers. I've seen it once but I didn't really like it that much. I did like Puppets Who Kill though. But that's because of the psychological issues involved.

[punkNpuppets]

well i agree with what you said about homosexuality, but some christians' opinions on it have alot more to do with hatred and not morality.