Would Jim have approved?

[abiraniriba]

Not too long ago when Disney created its Touchstone franchise and started playing with R-rated movies and some alternative cartoons. The question was asked would Walt have approved? Some said no, and others reminding us that in "Steamboat Willie" Mickey Mouse himself played music on a cow's udder, said yes. so now I ask you, would Jim have approved? Jim was a bit irreverent both in his adult puppet fare and in his chidren's stuff, who could forget the short-lived SS character Monty and his Python who always referred to his snake as a silly ASP (don't change that last letter eds please), so yes I think he would have approved. What are your thoughts?

[heralde]

I can't speak for another person of course. But I think there is a difference between adult humor, and immature humor. I think Jim would approve of adult humor.

[The Count]

Actually... The word "asp" is correct, as it's a type of snake, perhaps most famous for being the one that killed Cleopatra in some accounts.
However, where did you find about this character named "Python"? Would like to know more.

And I think that Jim would've approved of the overall tone, though maybe changing some of the quotes we know of now to better reflect the tone of adult humor without so much falling into out and out immature humor.
But there was a touch of that too... So who am I to judge.
Just please try to keep things in line here at the boards, that's all I ask of everyone reading.

Thanks.

[Beauregard]

I think when it comes to Jim, everyone thinks that he was a child-friendly and foam-fleased, but he was also a visionary genious and he knew his audience. For SS he knew that adults liked irreverent humour, but that he couldn't gross the line. With Gorch, he went the other way, crossing every line and dotting every I in the book.

Timepiece is another example of his more risque pieces. People who have seen it know what I mean by "bouncing".

Again, he knew his audience and could keep one thing from affecting the other.

[heralde]

Yeah I definitely don't think he was all about child-friendly humor, neither was Walt Disney. People would be shocked to see some of the early Disney cartoons. I just say there's a difference between adult and immature. :)

[MWoO]

I don't see why not. If it is funny and clever and the audience is appropriate. My only problem with Puppet up is that sometimes it's not clever, though most times it is.

[TheJimHensonHour]

I think Jim would be in the Mix if he was alive nuff said.

[frogboy4]

My thoughts are that he probably would have approved of some work and not others. What he would have approved...I couldn't make a guess. But every project would likely have his distinct fingerprints.

Jim Henson wasn't a puritian (that some people make him out to be). At least not in his work. The general public thinks of him as the Sesame Street guy and lumps Sesame with the Muppet Show. That's my experience anyway. Most people put Henson in this children's television box. He was so much more!

It would be interesting to know what he'd think of the content of Puppet Up.

[MGov]

If it was new and original and not just a copy of his or someone else's work, he would have liked it.

[TheJimHensonHour]

My thoughts are that he probably would have approved of some work and not others. What he would have approved...I couldn't make a guess. But every project would likely have his distinct fingerprints.

Jim Henson wasn't a puritian (that some people make him out to be). At least not in his work. The general public thinks of him as the Sesame Street guy and lumps Sesame with the Muppet Show. That's my experience anyway. Most people put Henson in this children's television box. He was so much more!

It would be interesting to know what he'd think of the content of Puppet Up.
Prolly the same as he thought of his Land Of Gortch Stuff and Jim Henson Hour Stuff.
& I couldn't agree more While Jim was a sweet down to earth man he was no goody 2 shoes when it came to comedy.

[Quesal]

It's hard to say whether or not Jim would have approved. It wouldn't surprise me if he did.

[erniebert1234ss]

Jim was always saying that his stuff was NOT for kids. Jim would have absolutely RELISHED Puppet Up/Puppet Improv, and would have ABSOLUTELY participated.

BJ

[Drtooth]

Jim Henson wasn't a puritian (that some people make him out to be). At least not in his work. The general public thinks of him as the Sesame Street guy and lumps Sesame with the Muppet Show. That's my experience anyway. Most people put Henson in this children's television box. He was so much more!

From what I could deduce, Jim probably only had a problem with hard core real life violence. In fact, he was on the fence about the TMNT movies, until he was told it was comic book, cartoonish action. Oddly enough, the only people who had a huge problem with the violence in TMNT was the UK film board- who edited out every scene of Mieky's Nunchucks- as they did in the cartoon.

But he'd love Puppet Up! I really think that he would have been beyond thrilled with the tought that puppets could speak to an adult audience.

And not everything on Puppet Up was the ..uh... "You Gotta have Faith- Faith- Faith" George Michael bit (which killed me with laughter. I can't hear the real song without being reduced to giggling now). I really loved the one where the father was telling the son some weird bed time story. And the one where the intellectuals deconstruct Forrest Gump.

I especially think that he would have loved Paul Rugg, and had him join the main Muppet troup. Something about the guy screams muppet. Even when he was working for Warners.

Here's what I wonder. On tour, does he ever use his "Weird Foreigner" (Zoltana Zoltana, Nostradamus) or Jerry Lewis voices when puppeteering? I love those.

[Ilikemuppets]

Oddly enough, the only people who had a huge problem with the violence in TMNT was the UK film board- who edited out every scene of Mieky's Nunchucks- as they did in the cartoon. You mean Teenage Mutant Hero turtles?

[wwfpooh]

I especially think that he would have loved Paul Rugg, and had him join the main Muppet troup. Something about the guy screams muppet. Even when he was working for Warners.

Seriously, he and singer-actor Rob Paulsen (who voiced Boober on Fraggle Rock: The Animated Series) ooze Muppet-esque humor out the wazoo, especially when working together (most notably seen in Animaniacs! episodes Hello Nice Warners (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29GfPnFULBY) & Hearts of Twilight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_M0fOLuxE) [with Rugg as Mr. Director and Paulsen as Yakko Warner, respectively]). :D

[ReneeLouvier]

You mean Teenage Mutant Hero turtles?

Not to step on anyone's proverbial toes here, but I think they were called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Hence, TMNT. :wisdom:

[wwfpooh]

Not to step on anyone's proverbial toes here, but I think they were called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Hence, TMNT. :wisdom:In the UK, any reference to "ninja" was removed, for some asinine reason.

[Fozzie Bear]

Seriously, do you think Brian Henson would do something in his father's name if Jim wouldn't have approved?

I think he'd have been all for it. After all, what was that one Muppet Show pilot called? Sex and violence? What was Janice's line about 'walking naked on a beach' in Great Muppet Caper?

I think it would have been fair game today for him.

[wwfpooh]

Seriously, do you think Brian Henson would do something in his father's name if Jim wouldn't have approved?

I think he'd have been all for it. After all, what was that one Muppet Show pilot called? Sex and violence? What was Janice's line about 'walking naked on a beach' in Great Muppet Caper?

I think it would have been fair game today for him.But the thing is...despite those things, Jim walked a fine line and only did sexual innuendo and the type of violence that most knew was fake (ex: having monster muppets eat other humanoid muppets, to only have the other muppets survive) and didn't actually cross into the modern adult territory (i.e. didn't do things like Family Guy or Futurama, where jokes were balatant--sans a pie to the face & other classics--and where swears were used, for the mere use of being used).

[Ilikemuppets]

But the thing is...despite those things, Jim walked a fine line and only did sexual innuendo and the type of violence that most knew was fake (ex: having monster muppets eat other humanoid muppets, to only have the other muppets survive) and didn't actually cross into the modern adult territory (i.e. didn't do things like Family Guy or Futurama, where jokes were balatant--sans a pie to the face & other classics--and where swears were used, for the mere use of being used).I don't think anybody is saying Jim was doing that kind of stuff and we all know he wouldn't, even though you make a good point. But yeah, I think Jim would let this slide.

[wwfpooh]

He wpuld let it slide somewhat, for recall that Puppet Up does use the modern dark humor exhibited via Family Guy & the like, something Jim--as we just said--didn't do.

[Fozzie Bear]

But the thing is...despite those things, Jim walked a fine line and only did sexual innuendo and the type of violence that most knew was fake (ex: having monster muppets eat other humanoid muppets, to only have the other muppets survive) and didn't actually cross into the modern adult territory (i.e. didn't do things like Family Guy or Futurama, where jokes were balatant--sans a pie to the face & other classics--and where swears were used, for the mere use of being used).

I agree, but who's to say what would have been standard now 18years later?

I mean, Snakewalker was going to put a harpoon through Kermit's heart while he and his friends stood at gunpoint in TMM, Nick Holliday did pull a gun on Kermit in GMC...Kira was stabbed in front of us in The Dark Crystal.

I would like to think blatant cussing would never have crept into it all, 'though the whole dump's gone to he--" was in GMC. Come to think of it...GMC was pretty adult in nature with more of a family friendly over/undertone to it.

I don't think any of us will have the right answer. We aren't Jim and could never be sure. All we can do is say what we think, and even then we're likely to be wrong.

[heralde]

I agree, obviously none of us can claim to speak for another person. :)



I just wanted to slip this random quote here, hehe:

Groucho Marx: (On the subject of "filthy" entertainment): "I think that's too easy that kind of laughter. Anybody can say something dirty and get a laugh. But say something clean and get a laugh, that requires a comedian. I think it's about time they quit it. The movies are all dirty....and I think it's all wrong because it doesn't require talent to be dirty. Be clean and be funny." (immediate applause from the audience)

[wwfpooh]

I agree, obviously none of us can claim to speak for another person. :)



I just wanted to slip this random quote here, hehe:

Groucho Marx: (On the subject of "filthy" entertainment): "I think that's too easy that kind of laughter. Anybody can say something dirty and get a laugh. But say something clean and get a laugh, that requires a comedian. I think it's about time they quit it. The movies are all dirty....and I think it's all wrong because it doesn't require talent to be dirty. Be clean and be funny." (immediate applause from the audience)And Groucho is right on the money with that statement. I mean, Animaniacs!--for instance--had both gritty, adult humor of a subtle nature & yet, still had that loveable, toony humor that kids adored, along with songs for both educational and entertainment purposes.

[TheJimHensonHour]

How does anyone know what jim himself would say or do at this point in his life?
He was all for progress and moving forward not keeping things stagnent.
I say while he may not agree with some thing he'd back brian 100% and even perhaps be up there on stage with him.
I used to think very little of Brian but seeing how he's kept up with Puppets and all after all these years when he could have done anything else and just got rid of the company all together, he didn't.
I mean he sold the Muppet but so what he wasn't doing them any good anyway.
He's better off with his own cast of characters.

[heralde]

I just don't see using the adult, sophisicated humor that the Muppets used to use as "keeping things stagnent." But it's OK if we have different perspectives on that. :)

[heralde]

And Groucho is right on the money with that statement. I mean, Animaniacs!--for instance--had both gritty, adult humor of a subtle nature & yet, still had that loveable, toony humor that kids adored, along with songs for both educational and entertainment purposes.

Another thing I thought of is a line from Animal Crackers:

"I hate a dirty joke I do, unless it's told by someone who, knows how to tell it!" ;)

I think Animaniacs (and even things like South Park) are good examples of this. They aren't afraid to use some "dirty" humor, but there's a purpose behind it. It's not just for shock value and cheap laughs.

[frogboy4]

I just don't see using the adult, sophisicated humor that the Muppets used to use as "keeping things stagnent." But it's OK if we have different perspectives on that.

I think that line is perceived differently for everyone. I'm much looser about its placement. The criterion for me depends upon whether the humor has at least a playful subtext or if it's just empty snarkiness.

:rolleyes: Good Example: The MWoO nipple joke. Pepe is really interested in all of the Tin Thing's gadgets and he's presumptuous enough to fiddle around with them until he finds asking about them and permission to touch them before is a good idea. It's a personality joke between two characters. Gonzo doesn't care much for conventional rules (his Tin Thing has no heart) and Pepe has little self-editing. I still believe Jim Henson would have allowed it because it appears to be in the spirit of the Muppets, but I could be wrong. It harkens back to some of Janice's lines in films about being naked.

:sympathy: Poor Example: Behind the scenes with Weezer video when Rowlf is at the editing decks and continually encourages the film's director that Pepe's swimsuit girls should be included in the piece. It's out of character for Rowlf, unnecessary and a bit snarky. Not a big deal, but not the best way to bring Rowlf back to the public eye. It really brought nothing to the table. I see Jim Henson's line as Rowlf using the term "b****" on Arsenio Hall Show to be jarring even today, but Jim pulled off the double entendre with charm missing from the Weezer bit.

Still, I agree that it all depends on where a fan places the line. It's a little different for all of us. :)

[heralde]

The MWoO nipple joke....it because it appears to be in the spirit of the Muppets, but I could be wrong. It harkens back to some of Janice's lines in films about being naked.

I have to disagree. I can see grown ups talking about being naked on a beach. I can see kids making jokes about nipples and then being shocked and afraid to make naked jokes. That's the difference for me.

Behind the scenes with Weezer video when Rowlf is at the editing decks and continually encourages the film's director that Pepe's swimsuit girls should be included in the piece. It's out of character for Rowlf, unnecessary and a bit snarky.

And I disagree here a bit too; Rowlf was always a little snarky and interested in girls. He was like the older guy in the group who'd been around the block a few times.

Still, I agree that it all depends on where a fan places the line. It's a little different for all of us. :)

But I do agree on this, and that's cool. :)

I just hope it's understood that it's not that many fans are puritans. It's that's from their perspective, there's a difference between adult and immature humor.

[frogboy4]

But I do agree on this, and that's cool. :)

I just hope it's understood that it's not that many fans are puritans. It's that's from their perspective, there's a difference between adult and immature humor.

And that's different for all of us too. ;)

[Super Scooter]

Groucho Marx: (On the subject of "filthy" entertainment): "I think that's too easy that kind of laughter. Anybody can say something dirty and get a laugh. But say something clean and get a laugh, that requires a comedian. I think it's about time they quit it. The movies are all dirty....and I think it's all wrong because it doesn't require talent to be dirty. Be clean and be funny." (immediate applause from the audience)

I do agree with this quote to a large degree. I think many people today feel that being dirty automatically equals being funny. Not so. It takes a great deal of talent to be funny without being dirty. Now, adult humor can also be funny. I think the Muppets have always had a nice blend, making them, in my opinion, mature humor (and sometimes immaturely so :p ). I honestly can't say what Jim would have approved of, but I'm not entirely fond of Puppet Up. I think it can be very funny at times, it's just not always my cup of tea.

In any case, just remember that Jim Henson did puppet sex long before "Meet the Feebles" or "Avenue Q" even thought about it. (Scred and Peuta in one "Land of Gorch" segment, if anyone's wondering)

[wwfpooh]

And that's different for all of us too. ;)Me personally, I loved having subtle humor in shows so that kids could watch the show without having to catch the ire of their parents if they were caught watching or something. With Animaniacs! and most Muppet productions, the humor may be adult-generated, but kids could still watch the program and be entertained, whereas with the blatant, in-your-face humor of Family Guy and the like, it is obviously geared towards an adult audience, despite the fact that anymore, younger and younger people are beginning to be exposed to its type of humor at earlier ages.

[Luke]

It would be interesting to know what he'd think of the content of Puppet Up.

I bet he would have stronger things to say about Muppet Wizard Of Oz, lol! :eek:

As for Puppet Up, Tinseltown and all that. I agree that he would have approved of the general genre, but some of the actual scenes and dialogues have sometimes been written (it seems) a bit more to shock than be creative.

[wwfpooh]

some of the actual scenes and dialogues have sometimes been written (it seems) a bit more to shock than be creative.You could say that again!

[Kiki]

This is a really interesting thread.

Personally, I don't think Jim had a problem with risque humour, as a person he didn't seem the type to suger-coat everything (I've seen some behind-the-scenes stuff with Kermit... funny stuff. :D). I knew he was a bit concerned when it came to violence, even when he was working on the first TMNT movie (but somebody assured him that the violence would look "cartoony"). So personally, I don't think he would've minded the "adult" humour, even if it wasn't really in context. Okay, I know, I can't speak for someone else, but he always wanted puppets to appeal to adults, and he seemed pretty light-hearted about it all.

[heralde]

Very true, I think Jim was much into risque humor than people realize, they think he was all about Sesame Street and kids stuff.

I feel like somethings these days are risque while others are simply immature trying to seem risque. That's the only thing that concerns me.

[Kiki]

I agree. It's really hard to pull off risque humour while trying to make it look sophisticated. It's been done, of coarse (not the greatest example, but I loved the scene from TMS w/ Fozzie and Raquel Welsh, that was tasteful :flirt:), but a lot of the jokes I see on TV shows today (usually sitcoms, even the British ones which I adore) are really over-the-top, as though they're just trying too hard. And in the end it just seems uncalled for, y'know?

[heralde]

I agree. It's really hard to pull off risque humour while trying to make it look sophisticated. It's been done, of coarse (not the greatest example, but I loved the scene from TMS w/ Fozzie and Raquel Welsh, that was tasteful :flirt:), but a lot of the jokes I see on TV shows today (usually sitcoms, even the British ones which I adore) are really over-the-top, as though they're just trying too hard. And in the end it just seems uncalled for, y'know?

Exactly; what I've often found is, audiences who gravitate towards the over-the-top stuff and think it's all rebellious, are then quite shocked and stunned when confronted with the actual risque stuff (a la Raquel Welsh, hehe).

[LamangoNumber2]

...Jim would like the 'adult' puppettry. Heck, Jane and Brian loved Avenue Q, and possibly Mystery Science Theater...Greg the Bunny... Jeff Dunham.... and others.

[Muppet Pro]

Yes, Jim would approve irreverent Humor 100%. The Muppets were edgy and risky with their humor sense the begaining. The differents between risky back then and risky today is seperated to due how much you can get away with back then. If you take a look at some of the Muppet Meeting Films back in the 1960s, the ones that were not ment to be shown to audiences, you can defenatly notice the irreverent humor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQNg8vEStwQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w282YjrFIGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAOQM8o5kJ4&feature=related

Even when you watch The Wilkins Coffee Commercials, it's amazing how violent and irreverent they were and how much they can get away with. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wilkins+Coffee&search_type=&aq=f

Not to also mention Land Of Gorch from SNL

Plus the Muppet Show Pilot Sex & Violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt056fQX2RU

And one in awhile there will be something irreverent on The Muppet Show and sometimes in simbolism on Sesame Street.

Remember "I Want a Monster to Be My Friend", Don Music and "Take my Hand"? LOL

Plus Dinosaurs was technically a Satirical program. It was very political at times, sometimes it satirized pop culture, and shall I say The Mating Dance and The Happy Leaf? LOL


Even though many will disagree with me, I think that the irreverent style within Muppet Humor lead on to shows like Spitting Image, Crank Yankers, Greg the Bunny, and Wonder Showzen.

I can defenatly see Jim Henson performing Puppet Up!

[heralde]

The differents between risky back then and risky today is seperated to due how much you can get away with back then.

I agree, nowadays everyone has to be so careful and PC that the so-called "risque" humor we have today is frankly laughable at times, heh.

[Quesal]

It is really weird to think about how the 1990s might have been like had Jim not died
...

[Skippy]

I believe Jimbo was a man who was not afraid to use adult humor, HOWEVER, he did it with CLASS! He didn't have to resort to constant profanities and sex jokes and beat us over the heads with those things. My business partner and I went to Puppet Up last year and were shocked, because while it was clever and funny in some parts, a lot of the time it seemed the comedians were trying too hard to make sure everyone knew how "edgy" this show was. I even think there was a line about it in the theme song. And anytime they couldn't think of anything in the improv, they always resorted to F***! Or some sort of sex joke. Sort of dissapointing. I'm no puritan myself but I believe comedy to be funnier if the comedian can pull off being funny without using the crutch of those aformentioned things. And I believe that Jim did just that.

[Skippy]

It is really weird to think about how the 1990s might have been like had Jim not died
...

I think about that two, but with the Beatles. If they never broke up what would their 80s and 90s albums have sounded like? *shudders*

[Muppet Pro]

I believe Jimbo was a man who was not afraid to use adult humor, HOWEVER, he did it with CLASS! He didn't have to resort to constant profanities and sex jokes and beat us over the heads with those things. My business partner and I went to Puppet Up last year and were shocked, because while it was clever and funny in some parts, a lot of the time it seemed the comedians were trying too hard to make sure everyone knew how "edgy" this show was. I even think there was a line about it in the theme song. And anytime they couldn't think of anything in the improv, they always resorted to F***! Or some sort of sex joke. Sort of dissapointing. I'm no puritan myself but I believe comedy to be funnier if the comedian can pull off being funny without using the crutch of those aformentioned things. And I believe that Jim did just that.

I think Puppet Up is different because it's kind of a behind the scenes of how the puppeteers have a sick & twisted sense of humor and a lot of times they do things behind the scenes that would never be caught in a real show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4gXgMQFaTM


Way back when you were only allowed to a limmit of irreverent humor and adult humor. Compairing The Muppet Show to Muppets Tonight, I can defenatly tell that Muppets Tonight got away with things that wouldn't have been possible on The Muppet Show.

Also Land of Gorch in todays standards would probably get a PG rating, but back in 1975-76 it would be in the standards of South Park TV-MA.

Adult Puppetry in media has been developing more and more before and after Jim's passing.

1984 - 1996 Spitting Image
1989 - Meet The Feebles
2000s - Greg the Bunny
2002 - 2007 Crank Yankers

Technically Jim has been fighting for puppetry for the adult audience since the begaining.
I think Sam & Friends aired about 11pm and from looking at some of the early episodes, somethings back then you couldn't get away with today. For example there was a musical number with these French character's called "S'bone S'bone" and the lead character near the end of the song pops his head up from the bottom of the screen and says "It's so good I may kill myself".
Now if someone would say that now a days, it would cause lots of controversy unless it was put on at a late time like Sam & Friends was.

My theory on adult humor is that way back when you could get away with violence but nothing sexual, but today sexual is okay but violence isn't.

But I totally agree with you, if you were going to take a risk, it needs to be cleaver and not just thrown out there as if it was a despirate way to get attention.

Jim was very cleaver with his humor and even satire at times.

And speaking of irreverent humor and puppetry, I think magical thing about those elements together is that puppets can get away with a lot more than a human comedian could ever get away with, maybe that's why some of the shock humor is so funny because it's a symbolism of profanity in modern society. :)

[Skippy]

True that, I do concur that a lot of times it can be a humorous satire of the culture's use of profanity, which can be funny. I do think sometimes it can be overused and cheap though, but that's just me. Some people dig it.

[heralde]

I haven't seen a lot of Puppet Up, but I agree with Skippy, too many comedians and entertainers lately are buying into the axiom of "shock = funny." Instead of doing the work of actually finding humor, they resort to randomly dirty words and situations. And audiences are all too willing to pretend it's humor.

For the record I think South Park is actually one of the genuinely funny shows. It knows how to use profanity within a context, not just for shock value.

[Muppet Pro]

I haven't seen a lot of Puppet Up, but I agree with Skippy, too many comedians and entertainers lately are buying into the axiom of "shock = funny." Instead of doing the work of actually finding humor, they resort to randomly dirty words and situations. And audiences are all too willing to pretend it's humor.

For the record I think South Park is actually one of the genuinely funny shows. It knows how to use profanity within a context, not just for shock value.

I agree. I which The Jim Henson Company made more satirical shows like Dinosaurs. That was a geniusly written program! :)

[heralde]

I agree. I which The Jim Henson Company made more satirical shows like Dinosaurs. That was a geniusly written program! :)

Oh I completely agree, Dinosaurs was the perfect example of a show that addressed familiar issues in a totally bizarre setting. :)

[Muppet Pro]

Oh I completely agree, Dinosaurs was the perfect example of a show that addressed familiar issues in a totally bizarre setting. :)

Defenatly, it had a point to make and that's basicly what satire is all about.

Dinosaurs is one of my strongest influences in my work and it's probably my favorite Jim Henson Company project besides The Muppets and The Fantasy Films.

Personally I think the Jim Henson Company should do something kind of like Dinosaurs again or on the lines of South Park and Spitting Image. Though I'm not sure if many people knew, Jim Henson turned the deal down for Spitting Image because he believed that characturing real targets is basicly a mask towards the belief of a character or something like that. Though he told Fluck and Law that he wanted to consintrate more on his Fantasy films at the time. This was back in 1983.

One of the great things about puppetry and satire is it actually works well together. Not a lot of people have an acceptance for satire, lots of people find it rude, irreverent and offensive but the real purpose is to tackle irreverence and not only make it funny but to prove a philisophical message. And I think that's what Dinosaurs did, they tackled rough subjects and made a point. They satirized all over the political map and got away with it because it's only puppets and that's where I see the true magic.

One of my favorite episodes of Dinosaurs was Nuts to War where it satirized war in general and I think also the Gulf War at the time. Operation:WeAreRight LOL Plus the American Properganda
"And we support the troops at Stan's House of Stereo" or something like that.
One of my favorite lines is where Harold Handupme reads the battle update and freaks out, praying to God, then looks at the screen and says "It's nothing. Everything's Fine".

I wish even Comedy Central was a lot more cleaver. In my opinion, without South Park and Crank Yankers, Comedy Central is nothing special.

But anyways back to the topic, Yeah I would really love to see The Jim Henson Company getting back to some satirical work, I think that would be great. :)

[heralde]

One of my favorite episodess of Dinosaurs was Nuts to War where it satirized war in general and I think also the Gulf War at the time. Operation:WeAreRight LOL Plus the American Properganda
"And we support the troops at Stan's House of Stereo" or something like that.
One of my favorite lines is where Harold Handupme reads the battle update and freaks out, praying to God, then looks at the screen and says "It's nothing. Everything's Fine".

"WeAreRight" LOLOL, brilliant! I'm going to use that as an Away message, hehe. :crazy:

Reminds me of when I saw Eric Idle (of Monty Python) on stage and he demonstrated how every country's national anthemn is essentially, "We're much better than you!" Lol

But yeah, there's always some annoying social problem in the world and if The Jim Henson Company wanted to take advantage, they'd have no problem finding material, hehe. I say go for it! ;)