The Chipmunks' Triumphant Return

[D'Snowth]

I just recently discovered that sometime later this year, Alvin and the Chipmunks will be making another comeback with an all-new movie: the only thing is it's unconfirmed on whether it's going to be strictly animated, or a combination of animation/live action stuff like the two Scooby-Doo movies.

[anytimepally]

Here's what Ross Bagdasarian, Jr's (the voice of the chipmunks since his father died in 1972) wikipedia page says about it.. I know wikipedia is the world's most reliable source, so take this as you will :rolleyes: :

"Currently, Bagdasarian is producing a live-action film version of Alvin and the Chipmunks, featuring computer-animated Chipmunks, and a live-action David Seville. It is reportedly in development by 20th Century Fox, and scheduled to be released in theatres around 2007."

[D'Snowth]

Actually, I heard about this at IMDb...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0952640/

The only genre listed is "Animation", though the current cast list has a few people listed as character (NOT the voices of) where as you've got credits for "The voices of Alvin, Simon, et cetera..."

[heralde]

::shrugs:: I don't understand the recent trend with bringing back old kid's shows for the movies, but then putting them in a completely different enviornment, such as live action or in the real world. The writing's either been poor or the audiences were confused.

Fat Albert is one example. It was OK, but I think it might have been more successful if they'd kept it as a cartoon. They brought the characters into a new situation before today's kids even knew who they originally were! Rocky and Bullwinkle another example, as bad as it could possibly be! They should have stuck with what worked.

I hate to say it, but they're doing the same thing with the Fraggle Rock movie, bringing the characters out of their element before today's kids even get a chance to know them. I really hope it's done better than Fat Albert.

Heh, one of the few good moments in the Fat Albert film, "When you try to be something you're not, you lose the essence of who you are."

[D'Snowth]

::shrugs:: I don't understand the recent trend with bringing back old kid's shows for the movies, but then putting them in a completely different enviornment, such as live action or in the real world. The writing's either been poor or the audiences were confused.

Fat Albert is one example. It was OK, but I think it might have been more successful if they'd kept it as a cartoon. They brought the characters into a new situation before today's kids even knew who they originally were! Rocky and Bullwinkle another example, as bad as it could possibly be! They should have stuck with what worked.

I hate to say it, but they're doing the same thing with the Fraggle Rock movie, bringing the characters out of their element before today's kids even get a chance to know them. I really hope it's done better than Fat Albert.

Heh, one of the few good moments in the Fat Albert film, "When you try to be something you're not, you lose the essence of who you are."
Let us not forget the two Garfield movies...:rolleyes:

[heralde]

Yes that too, good point.

[anytimepally]

Actually, I heard about this at IMDb...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0952640/

The only genre listed is "Animation", though the current cast list has a few people listed as character (NOT the voices of) where as you've got credits for "The voices of Alvin, Simon, et cetera..."

it does look like live action / animation because normally Ross Bagdasarian Jr., who does Alvin & Simon, would also be doing David Seville.. and his wife Janice Karman, listed only as doing Theodore will likely also do the voices of Brittany, Jeanette, & Eleanor if they're included in the movie

[Speed Tracer]

About a month ago, Jason Lee was cast as Dave Seville, the Chipmunks adopted father. It was confirmed that all the humans are live-action with the Chipmunks being computer animated.

[D'Snowth]

Jason Lee? As Dave? JASON LEE?! I don't think so...

[Speed Tracer]

Neither do I, but I think that our reasonings behind saying so are different.

[D'Snowth]

I don't know your reasonings, but then again, I honestly haven't seen anything related to the Chipmunks in a long time, but if I remember what Dave was like, I just don't believe Jason Lee would be the right choice.

[Speed Tracer]

My reasoning is that I love Jason Lee very much, and I love the Chipmunks too, but I can't help but feel that this is a step in the wrong direction for both of them.

[D'Snowth]

Hmm, yeah, I won't argue with you there.

[Speed Tracer]

Then again, the director is Tim Hill. And he did a really bang-up job of directing Muppets From Space... and even though I may get flogged for this, I didn't think that Garfield: A Tale of Two Kitties and Max Keeble's Big Move were awful. Not great, but certainly not bad.

We'll simply have to see.

[D'Snowth]

Yeah, Tim Hill's pretty good, so maybe, JUST maybe this might not be too bad...

[dwayne1115]

Well heres the thing and i think this could also aplly to the muppets. The people who know cartoons and shows from the 80's are all grown up. Yet they would love to see the old shows all new again, Yet the people in the movie bussness are into a younger generation. and this "re intordceing" thing is what it is all about. If people have not seen the cartoons for a long time then they will change or re do them with new voices or story lines.

[D'Snowth]

I need a memory refresher since I have seen these guys in a long time: I know Dave adopted the Chipmunks, but who adopted the Chipettes? Did he adopt them too?

[Speed Tracer]

I think they lived by themselves.

In a treehouse.

[D'Snowth]

Okay... that's odd, I was thinking they too had an adoptive guardian, but I guess not.

[Ilikemuppets]

No! Your right! They lived up a tree at first, but the very disfuntional Miss miller adopted them. Thet always help her kee thins in order because she is always messing things up. And she is alwayas about to step on, knock somthing over on, or sit on her poor Kittie cat! She was so darn funny and lovable, hehe!:zany: An unforgettible character.:D

[D'Snowth]

Oh! I forgot about Miss Miller! I remember her now as the Chipmunks' babysitter, but I don't think I remember her adopting the Chipettes... DANG I think it's been longer than I thought since I've seen these guys; I do remember when I was a tiny little guy, Cartoon Network used to play The Chipmunks in the mornings.

[Speed Tracer]

Right after I posted that, I was sure I was wrong. Now I totally remember Miss Miller. She was awesome.

This has made me begin watching The Chipmunk Adventure.

[Teheheman]

I think that if they do this to Fraggle Rock, it'll be kinda good because they are releasing them on DVD the way they were, so I guess that way kids and adults can get to know them again, and fall in love with the characters. I actually think that Jason Lee would do good. Listening to him and seeing him on My Name is Earl, all he would have to do is comb his hair and shave his mustache(One of the best mustaches on TV since Tom Selleck) and he's got it. I mean, you look at some of the people in movies that was adapted from either real peoples lives or TV shows, and you look at who you THINK would be good, and they end up tanking(Nicole Kidman/Bewitched) Then you look at Joakin(sp?) Pheonix in Walk the Line, you'd never think looking at him that he'd be a great Johnny Cash, but he brought what I thought was one of the best performances and pulled it off. We'll see how it turns out, I think that this MAYBE ok, but I think you're right, they should just make something to either reintroduce this to the public, or put the originals on DVD, so they can figure out the characters, and then see them put into a situation outside of their comfort zone.

Daniel

[heralde]

I don't know if they ever showed Miss Miller adopting the Chipettes, but they did live with her after the tree house.

[Ilikemuppets]

I remember that she offically did. I wish I I could remember exactly what happed, though.

Edit: Season four premier:37. "Help Wanted: Mommy"
The Chipettes are adopted by Miss Miller.

* First appearance of Miss Miller.
* Aired 9/20/86
* Final appearance of the Chipettes' treehouse as they are now living with Miss Miller.

[Speed Tracer]

I don't think that Jason would do a bad job... it's just, I don't see him as Dave... especially since my introduction to him was through Kevin Smith's films.

[D'Snowth]

All this talk, I had to go to YouTube for a stroll down memory lane...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VDXCR-LAl0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFMRO7hsqHw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPfCDfJ8Bec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDUIMvGRiXo

[anytimepally]

congrats on 9,000 posts!

[D'Snowth]

Oh wow, I didn't realize! Well, only less than 1000 more to go and I'll be number six in the 10,000 club! Now, how should we celebrate?

[Teheheman]

Oh wow, I didn't realize! Well, only less than 1000 more to go and I'll be number six in the 10,000 club! Now, how should we celebrate?
I say we get drunk and kidnap Kathy Greenwoods husband, and that'll leave the door open for you to "console" her. THEN, we return him for ransom and a deal in which we don't get prosecuted so we get off scott free. Or we could just hang some streamers or something it's all up to you.

Daniel

[D'Snowth]

I say we get drunk and kidnap Kathy Greenwoods husband, and that'll leave the door open for you to "console" her. THEN, we return him for ransom and a deal in which we don't get prosecuted so we get off scott free. Or we could just hang some streamers or something it's all up to you.

DanielHmm, decisions, decisions... lol.

[Winslow Leach]

I figured the Chipmunks were due for this kind of big-screen revival sooner or later. Doesn't surprise me at all.

[D'Snowth]

Well, have you noticed a lot of people (and thinks) from like the 80s have been making comebacks within the last year or so? Pee-Wee Herman is another example.

[anytimepally]

Pee-Wee Herman is another example.

that is the single scariest thing on Earth :concern:

[D'Snowth]

that is the single scariest thing on Earth :concern:

What? Pee-Wee Herman making a comeback?

[Teheheman]

It's like how people in the 80's were hippies and people in the 90's were into the 70's wearing tye-dye. That's about how every generation is, they go after the fads of 20 years ago. Nostalgia, and people see a market for that. It's why there's TV Land.

Daniel

[Ilikemuppets]

The Chipmunks are coming back in a big screen movie!

And yes, Pee-Wee Herman is coming out with a new movie thie year. *Gasp!*:eek:

[Teheheman]

Actually, he said on Jimmy Kimmel that he wasn't, but he saw a couple really good scripts that he's thinking about doing that involved Pee-Wee, so I don't know if it's true or not.

Daniel

[Ilikemuppets]

My bets are on yes! But that's for the update!:)

[anytimepally]

What? Pee-Wee Herman making a comeback?

yes.

[Winslow Leach]

About the Pee-Wee thing...

I have read several interviews with Paul Reubens in which he says he has two scripts in the works involving Pee-Wee. One will be a "comeback" movie of sorts, in the style of "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure." The other one is going to be a darker, "Sunset Blvd."-like story, which will involve Pee-Wee as a washed-up star trying to make a comeback.

If Pee-Wee does come back, I'll be the first in line. I've been a fan of his since the early 80s, when HBO ran "The Pee-Wee Herman Show," a live concert taped in L.A., co-starring Phil Hartman. The early Pee-Wee was a much more risque character than his movie and TV incarnations. I recently saw the special again for the first time in years, and still found it funny. So I'm all for a Pee-Wee Herman comeback.

[Speed Tracer]

I just want a Mystery Men sequel - doesn't everybody?

[heralde]

Not that I generally love sequals, but I adored Mystery Men!

[Fozzie Bear]

I hope HOPE they don't ruin the Chipmunks with this movie. The TMNT movie was well written and animated, and I liked it a lot. The Garfield movies were pretty good. The Fat Albert movie had such potential, but they ruined it having them come out of the TV (I'd rather had a movie that was just a story, not the cartoons coming out of the TV and alive). Scooby Doo was cool in the first 10 minutes chasing the ghost in the factory, but the rest of it was ruined by the fact that they made a big joke of the campiness of the cartoon; although Scooby Doo 2 was cool because they had all the monsters from the cartoon coming alive.

I hope the Chipmunks' movie is like Dennis the Menace was with Walter Mathau in it, or the first two Addams Family movies, which were all based on the comics, solely on it, and didn't make a parody of what it was about.

PLEASE, whoever is producing/directing this movie, if you see this, give us a really good movie and make the Chipmunks a big deal again. I love them.

Oh, and any word if the Chipettes are going to be in it? (I may have missed it above, and I hope someone is going to say "No Chipettes will be in this movie).

Pee Wee Herman movie? Mystery Men 2? Yeah, I'm going to see them if they're made!

[anytimepally]

Oh, and any word if the Chipettes are going to be in it? (I may have missed it above, and I hope someone is going to say "No Chipettes will be in this movie).

I know it's the world's most reliable source, but the Chipettes are the only major characters NOT mentioned on the IMDB page.. so take that as you will :cool:

[Fozzie Bear]

LOL! I'll take it with a grain of salt hoping they won't.

[D'Snowth]

You don't like the Chipettes, Kev? Why?

[Ilikemuppets]

You know that had a dog named Lily or something like that, too?

Well, I don't mind the Chipettes! I guess I just grew up with them so I am used to them. Although, I liked the original The Alivin Show without them. It was just find before they were around, too.

[Winslow Leach]

I just want a Mystery Men sequel - doesn't everybody?

Bring back the Shoveler!!

[D'Snowth]

You know that had a dog named Lily or something like that, too?

Well, I don't mind the Chipettes! I guess I just grew up with them so I am used to them. Although, I liked the original The Alivin Show without them. It was just find before they were around, too.Lol, yeah by the time I was born, the Chipettes were already permanent fixtures in the Chipmunk world, so it's actually kind of hard for me to imagine the Chipmunks WITHOUT the Chipettes... except for the old "Chipmunk Song" that is, lol.

[redBoobergurl]

Yeah, I also grew up with the Chipmunks when the Chipettes were part of them. I watched it religiously back when there actually were Saturday Morning cartoons! I always wanted to be like Brittany when in truth I was really more of a Jeanette. I had a Jeanette doll for awhile too.

[D'Snowth]

Yeah, I can actually relate to Jeanette a lot but simply because I too can be a bit of a klutz. Other than that, I'm probably most like Theodore: short, shy, and chubby.

[heralde]

I liked Simon, he was so funny as the long-suffering straight man. Lol

[D'Snowth]

The relationship between Simon and Alvin makes me think of the relationship between Double D and Eddy from Ed, Edd n Eddy, though unlike Eddy, I don't think Alvin was a big scammer... schemer maybe, but not a scammer.

[Fozzie Bear]

You don't like the Chipettes, Kev? Why?

Growing up, all I ever knew were Alvin, Simon, and Theodore. Then, the cartoon added those three girls, the irritating old woman neighbor, and Uncle Harry (?) to the lot. Didn't like any of them.

I will say if they find a way to use them well, then I'm game for them to be in the movie. It was just irritating to see them always bickering. Why not just work together, y'know?

[D'Snowth]

Well, you know how youngsters can be: the boys always think they're better than girls, while the girls think just the opposite...

[Ilikemuppets]

All man!I love thrie scamming Uncle Harry! LOL!:zany:

[D'Snowth]

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbG36tOevjc

I nearly did a spit-take when I saw this... SERIOUSLY!

[Bill Bubble Guy]

I still prefer the actual Chippettes voices used in the proper movie. But very cute. Have a couple of tissues Snowthy in case your spit take inevitably has to come.

And by the way I just simply adore Chipmunks and Chippetes.:flirt:

[Drtooth]

Fat Albert is one example. It was OK, but I think it might have been more successful if they'd kept it as a cartoon. They brought the characters into a new situation before today's kids even knew who they originally were! Rocky and Bullwinkle another example, as bad as it could possibly be! They should have stuck with what worked.

You know, I know everyone bad mouthed the Bullwinkle movie, but I think they did a pretty good job with it. Considering how bad Dudley Do-Right turned out. And let us not even begin to count the number of things thy got wrong in the Inspector Gadget movies... THEN incorporated the talking Gadget mobile into the cartoon (though I will say, Gadget's Biggest Case was surprisingly well done).

I hope this gets them to release the show on DVD. Especially the Alvin Show and Chipmunks go to the Movies (Back to Alvin's future kicked shell!)

[anytimepally]

You know, I know everyone bad mouthed the Bullwinkle movie, but I think they did a pretty good job with it. Considering how bad Dudley Do-Right turned out. And let us not even begin to count the number of things thy got wrong in the Inspector Gadget movies... THEN incorporated the talking Gadget mobile into the cartoon (though I will say, Gadget's Biggest Case was surprisingly well done).

I hope this gets them to release the show on DVD. Especially the Alvin Show and Chipmunks go to the Movies (Back to Alvin's future kicked shell!)

I just wish they'd finishing releasing Bullwinkle on DVD.. there was a preview for the Season 4 set on the Season 3 DVD, but it's been 2 years since that was released, and we've heard nothing.. I e-mailed them, and they said to check back in six months :grouchy:

[D'Snowth]

I just wish they'd finishing releasing Bullwinkle on DVD.. there was a preview for the Season 4 set on the Season 3 DVD, but it's been 2 years since that was released, and we've heard nothing.. I e-mailed them, and they said to check back in six months :grouchy:
I heard they canceled the season sets since they started releasing best of sets.:grouchy:

[Drtooth]

I heard they canceled the season sets since they started releasing best of sets.:grouchy:

Absolutely stupid. No one wants "Best ofs" with the exception of "ooh, I like it enough to buy one disk, but not a whole set" types.

I hope HOPE they don't ruin the Chipmunks with this movie. The TMNT movie was well written and animated, and I liked it a lot. The Garfield movies were pretty good. The Fat Albert movie had such potential, but they ruined it having them come out of the TV (I'd rather had a movie that was just a story, not the cartoons coming out of the TV and alive). Scooby Doo was cool in the first 10 minutes chasing the ghost in the factory, but the rest of it was ruined by the fact that they made a big joke of the campiness of the cartoon; although Scooby Doo 2 was cool because they had all the monsters from the cartoon coming alive.

The TMNT movie was one I'd take exception from all the other films. They weren't trying to make a remake, but rather a semi-sequal of the first 3 movies. By not making it a remake, I felt the movie was excellent. The others were remakes, and they suffered from it.

I will say, I liked how Scooby Doo1 made fun of the cartoon, but I feel the "What's new Scooby Doo?" series did a better job of subtly poking fun at the older series, while trying to improve upon it.

Fat Albert was flawed since it had several different scripts and they decided on that one. I found it funny since Bill Cosby wrote the script, and he never wrote for the actual cartoon itself.

But when it comes down to it, the worst ones I've seen were Inspector Gadget, which got everything wrong (though the sequal made an attempt to make refferences to the cartoon) and Dudley Do-Right, which was just totally off from the get go, trying hard to be the more superior George of the Jungle (up to the point they had a random former Monty Python comedian in it).

Now, unless Chipmunks is a remake, and not an extension of the characters (like TMNT) it will suffer.

[anytimepally]

I heard they canceled the season sets since they started releasing best of sets.:grouchy:

I worried about this at the time myself, but they did release the first Best Of sets the same day as Season 3, so I thought maybe they were just supplementing the season sets for people who didn't want to spend so much money.. also, they were distributed by Sony Wonder, so the fact that they had to find a new distributor might be a reason we haven't seen Season 4.. I'm trying to stay hopeful :smirk:

[Speed Tracer]

George of the Jungle for the win. That movie got it all right.

[D'Snowth]

I worried about this at the time myself, but they did release the first Best Of sets the same day as Season 3, so I thought maybe they were just supplementing the season sets for people who didn't want to spend so much money.. also, they were distributed by Sony Wonder, so the fact that they had to find a new distributor might be a reason we haven't seen Season 4.. I'm trying to stay hopeful :smirk:
So did Sony Wonder go out of business or something? Because I heard Sesame Street is getting a new distibutor for their DVDs as well.

Also, they release several more Best Of sets since then, so I don't them getting a new distributor is the main problem.

Well, to drive this thread back on topic, the Chipmunks must really be making a comeback this year because when I was at Wal-Mart today, they had a 25 cent ride outside the store and it was like a little trolley and a funky looking Alvin was the conductor.

[anytimepally]

So did Sony Wonder go out of business or something? Because I heard Sesame Street is getting a new distibutor for their DVDs as well.

sort of.. Sony decided to get rid of them so they could focus more on their own products rather than distributing others'

Well, to drive this thread back on topic, the Chipmunks must really be making a comeback this year because when I was at Wal-Mart today, they had a 25 cent ride outside the store and it was like a little trolley and a funky looking Alvin was the conductor.

that's really neat!

[Ilikemuppets]

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbG36tOevjc

I nearly did a spit-take when I saw this... SERIOUSLY!That was fun to hear!:) Did you see the one with the chipmunks on there, too! I saw that they had the second theme with the chipmunks, and it was not as good as the firs one, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMBlUwALaj8&mode=related&search=

[D'Snowth]

That was fun to hear!:) Did you see the one with the chipmunks on there, too! I saw that they had the second theme with the chipmunks, and it was not as good as the firs one, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMBlUwALaj8&mode=related&search=
Actually, that one wasn't as creepy as that one with the dubbed Chipettes... but still...

[Ilikemuppets]

I see what you mean. But did you here the one in German?

[D'Snowth]

I see what you mean. But did you here the one in German?

Oh yeah, that wasn't unusual at all to me because I've heard so many other cartoons dubbed in other languages before.

[MrsPepper]

I just want a Mystery Men sequel - doesn't everybody?

George of the Jungle for the win. That movie got it all right.

Speed Tracer, you are SO RIGHT. You are my hero! Mystery Men 2 would be amazing. I liked the guy who threw spoons as a weapon... **giggles**

Honestly, chipmunks revival would be cool. I don't remember much, just that I had a cassette tape, and I remember the christmas special. But it would be neat.

[D'Snowth]

Here's something cool...

http://www.chipmunks.com

Little Alvin and the Mini Munks looks really interesting seeing how they've turned the Chipmunks and the Chipettes into puppet characters instead of cartoon characters.

[Speed Tracer]

Speed Tracer, you are SO RIGHT. You are my hero! Mystery Men 2 would be amazing. I liked the guy who threw spoons as a weapon... **giggles**

Honestly, chipmunks revival would be cool. I don't remember much, just that I had a cassette tape, and I remember the christmas special. But it would be neat.

Thank you! Hollywood really needs to start answering my calls.

-Jack

[D'Snowth]

Thank you! Hollywood really needs to start answering my calls.

-Jack
HOLLYWOOD: Well isn't that cute? Heh-heh-heh... BUT IT'S WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!

[Ilikemuppets]

Yeah! I've seen Baby Alvin & The Mini Munks before, hehe! But I think I'll stick to the original, though.

[anytimepally]

But I think I'll stick to the original, though.

me too! :)

[D'Snowth]

Was at Ingles' today and saw in there DVD rental department one of the new released was "Alvin and The Chipmunks Go to the Movies" that had what looked like Alvin dresses as Batman, Simon as Spock, and Theodore as. well. Theodore.

It's official, these little munks are definitely making a comeback!

[Ilikemuppets]

I saw that ears ago. I think it was from 1990 when Alvin & The Chipmunks go to the movies debated.

Of course, you could be talking about something completely different. But if it's 'Bat-Munk' then no. But then again, you did say it was a new release, so I don't know?:smirk:

[Speed Tracer]

Well, here's the first look at what they'll look like in the movie... (http://www.impawards.com/2007/alvin_and_the_chipmunks.html)

I imagine several of you probably hate it. I kinda like it.

By the way, I doubt seriously that they're rappers in this movie, so ignore the stupid clothing.

[D'Snowth]

*Blink* Alvin and the Chipmunks? More like "Alvin and the Chip-punks".

They're a little TOO realistic looking in my honest opinion, I was imaging they were going to look pretty much like their former cartoon selves, only 3-D, like they did with Rocky and Bullwinkle in that movie.

But then again, I can't just judge a book by its cover.

[Speed Tracer]

Yeah, that's sort of how I imagined them looking too, but I actually sorta like this.

And it's weird seeing Jason Lee WITHOUT the 'stache. I never thought I'd say that, really.

Anyway, the poster looks good to me. All we need now is a trailer.

I'm actually looking forward to this quite a bit. Then again, as we all know, I'm not a picky guy.

[D'Snowth]

Well, this will be... interesting to say the least.

[Speed Tracer]

Yeah.

And, I mean, like I said, Tim Hill is directing. He doesn't make what you'd call masterpieces, but none of his flicks are what I would call bad, either.

[jacobsnchz]

Here's a better quality of the poster.
http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/posters/alvinandthechipmunks/alvinandthechipmunks1_large.jpg
It has the website on the poster but it just redirects to the Fox Movies website. I wish the Chipettes were in this movie! Atleast they'll be in the sequel. And yes, they already have plans on the sequel. The Chipmunks look so real! Not like in the cartoon. look at their feet! lol. Creepy. I want to see what they look like without the "punk" style. (i.e., Simon w/ glasses, Alvin w/ his sig. cap, etc.) I can't wait!

[jacobsnchz]

They're a little TOO realistic looking in my honest opinion, I was imaging they were going to look pretty much like their former cartoon selves, only 3-D, like they did with Rocky and Bullwinkle in that movie.

That's what I was thinking. Also like Garfield. Scooby-Doo turned out okay. I am used to the CGI Scooby now than the cartoon version. What other cartoons have movies and are going/have been CGI? Oh, yeah! Don't forget about the Smurfs! Can't wait to see what they look like! lol

[Teheheman]

I'm sorry, but this just LOOKS bad. Just from the poster. I would like to see a preview first, but the poster just makes the movie look bad.

Daniel

[D'Snowth]

What other cartoons have movies and are going/have been CGI?

Well, there's Over the Hedge, which was actually (and still is) a comic strip before they turned it into a movie.

[jacobsnchz]

I was googling and found this fan site. It looks new! Not alot of info htough. If you have a freewebs account, you should ask them to be your friend I did! It says they also have a MySpace.

www.freewebs.com/alvinandthechipmunksmovie (http://www.freewebs.com/alvinandthechipmunksmovie)

[Ilikemuppets]

You know My brother showed me that earlier, and I have never heard anything like the laughter that he had over the fact that is was actually real and not fan art. My eardrums are still in pain over that one. I couldn't believe my eye's when I saw it my self and had to laugh. But my reaction was shock, because I could not believe that it was for real, either. But this is how kids who did not know them before are going to know them, now.:p

By the way, I was thinking the exact same thing about Jason Lee and his Mustache.:D

[heralde]

Wow, well to be honest, I don't like the look. And these movies about old cartoons and TV shows have just rarely been successful.

[Winslow Leach]

Look who else is making a triumphant return...

Yes, it's the Invisible Man, folks!

Nah, I just messed up the URL. I posted the correct one further down the page...

[D'Snowth]

Look who else is making a triumphant return...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6jooThaqeYG
"The video you requested is no longer available"?

[Winslow Leach]

"The video you requested is no longer available"?

Whoops! Hang on...

[Winslow Leach]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6jooThaqeYg

Try it now...

[heralde]

Hehe, well some of the dog action was cute. But generally, this is the kind of kids entertainment that I don't appreciate. I just wonder if the people behind these remake movies have a clue why the old shows were so successful in the first place.

[CoOKiE]

Here's a better quality of the poster.
http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/posters/alvinandthechipmunks/alvinandthechipmunks1_large.jpg
It has the website on the poster but it just redirects to the Fox Movies website. I wish the Chipettes were in this movie! Atleast they'll be in the sequel. And yes, they already have plans on the sequel. The Chipmunks look so real! Not like in the cartoon. look at their feet! lol. Creepy. I want to see what they look like without the "punk" style. (i.e., Simon w/ glasses, Alvin w/ his sig. cap, etc.) I can't wait!

Yea but c'mon... you already know they're going to make a cameo... at least at the end... and look like the girls from PussyCat Dolls

[D'Snowth]

Oh good Lord, not this!

And did I see David Puddy in there? With white hair?

[Speed Tracer]

By the way, I was thinking the exact same thing about Jason Lee and his Mustache.:D

Yeah... he's had it so long I sometimes have to watch Mallrats to remind myself that he hasn't always had it. Which is cool, since it's a great movie.

I'll admit something to you... I like the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie and the first Scooby-Doo movie. I love that they played on the things that made their shows silly while still holding true to the shows' natures. And they both did a good job of bringing the characters into modern times. I really feel that way. Some of it was hokey in both, but, hey, what did you expect? So were the cartoons.

So yeah. I'll be giving this one the benefit of the doubt.

[heralde]

I liked the first Scooby Doo movie. It combined the qualities of the kids shows, with all the "adult" jokes people associate with it.

I didn't like Rocky and Bullwinkle. The plot and jokes were paper thin and unfunny. The old show, clever and ahead of its time, did not deserve that.

[D'Snowth]

Yea but c'mon... you already know they're going to make a cameo... at least at the end... and look like the girls from PussyCat Dolls

Are you for real?

[Ilikemuppets]

Whoa! Kay...Good grief.:p I was reading the movie name, but I didn't ever recognize it in the least. It took a while to connect in my head that that was Underdog, and not because I haven't seen it in so long, either. But that is one of the stupidest trailers I've ever seen and in no way would it ever want me to want to watch the living in a million years if you paid me to.:p I could see somebody not knowing who Underdog is wanting to see it, But not true underdog fans. Honestly, who is this movie for? I can just see little commenting on how completely stupid and ridiculas it is. It's not familiar with Young kind at all, anyway. It just looks like Disney had some property lying around, and just got property happy and figures that they had to do something with it. Yuck!:p

[Speed Tracer]

I've decided that I don't care how the Chipmunks dress. As long as Alvin is arrogant and sarcastic, Simon is stuck-up and smart, and Theodore is chubby and lovable, then I just don't care. There really isn't more to them than that. It's all you need to make them work, no matter what kind of music they play.

That is a fact.

Also, I have decided that I really like the way they look. Yeah, it's different than the cartoon, but the characters look the way they should. The grin on Alvin's face is very cunning. It looks like he's about to break curfew or sell Dave's car for some extra change. I love it.

[Ilikemuppets]

That's true, But I sure hope they don't lose their character traits.:eek:

[minor muppetz]

I think that the chipmunks too too getto in this movie. And they look too much like real chipmunks (though that's how they originally looked, before The Alvin Show).

[D'Snowth]

I think that the chipmunks too too getto in this movie. And they look too much like real chipmunks (though that's how they originally looked, before The Alvin Show).Well you know how it is, everything's going ghetto these days; remember when "the new Cartoon Network" surfaced, how ghetto it was?

And speaking of The Alvin Show, I just read that whatever network it was going to air on wanted it to have a laugh track, but Ross Bagdasarian Sr. refused.

[Drtooth]

UGH! White Gangsta Rappers...... Man, nothing like having a bunch of out of touch white 50 year olds hipping things up for them youngsters, eh? I mean, they did such a good job with loonatics unleashed and the 2005-2006 4Kids Tv all girls crap line up....

I mean, really.... did this film need to be made? Can't we just re-release the Chipmunks Adventure to theaters instead? They'll lose the same amount of money.

BTW, who else was disappointed Chipmunks go to the Movies was a cheap 3 episode 10 dollar disk, and not a proper 2 disk 13 episode release. I have Back to Alvin's future on Video, but I want a DVD version of it.

[minor muppetz]

BTW, who else was disappointed Chipmunks go to the Movies was a cheap 3 episode 10 dollar disk, and not a proper 2 disk 13 episode release. I have Back to Alvin's future on Video, but I want a DVD version of it.

According to Wikipedia and a few other sources, Alvin and the Chipmunks go to the Movies was the last season of Alvin and the Chipmunks, only retitled (after the title had already been shortened to just The Chipmunks). Most of season 6 and all of the last two seasons just weren't included in the syndication package for some reason. But if Chipmunks go to the Movies was originaly Alvin and the Chipmunks, then the other seasons should have been released first.

But maybe we'll get season sets for Alvin and the Chipmunks because of this movie, and maybe even the complete Alvin Show series. I wonder if there are any music rights concerning Alvin and the Chipmunks (there haven't been very many video or DVD releases of this series, and ironically, most of the epsiodes released on video or DVD were not included in the syndication package).

[Drtooth]

But maybe we'll get season sets for Alvin and the Chipmunks because of this movie, and maybe even the complete Alvin Show series. I wonder if there are any music rights concerning Alvin and the Chipmunks (there haven't been very many video or DVD releases of this series, and ironically, most of the epsiodes released on video or DVD were not included in the syndication package).


Of course there are... That's why "white Wedding" was unceremoniously pulled from BOTh Super Mario Brother Super Show AND Captain N. I read they were releasing GTTM, but they only had 3 episodes, which was disappointing. A full 13 episode small season of this series could have tested the waters for future box sets...

A nd personally, much as I love the 80's series... they NEED to release the Alvin Show first! Not too many music rights there

[minor muppetz]

Of course there are... That's why "white Wedding" was unceremoniously pulled from BOTh Super Mario Brother Super Show AND Captain N. I read they were releasing GTTM, but they only had 3 episodes, which was disappointing. A full 13 episode small season of this series could have tested the waters for future box sets...


I've read that the various song covers from Super Mario Bros. Super Show were included in video releases that were released at the time the show was still in production (though still edited), and the song covers were cut when the show was put into syndication.

[Ilikemuppets]

And speaking of The Alvin Show, I just read that whatever network it was going to air on wanted it to have a laugh track, but Ross Bagdasarian Sr. refused.

Wow! I'm glad he did because it just doesn't work with the pace of the show.:cool:

[Drtooth]

I've read that the various song covers from Super Mario Bros. Super Show were included in video releases that were released at the time the show was still in production (though still edited), and the song covers were cut when the show was put into syndication.

Yeah... but if they had the rights, they probably could have used the original versions. There's a Captain N web site that actually has sound files of the cut music numbers (as well as the sound alikes from season 2)

[minor muppetz]

Yeah... but if they had the rights, they probably could have used the original versions. There's a Captain N web site that actually has sound files of the cut music numbers (as well as the sound alikes from season 2)

I wonder if the original deal for the song covers only covered the shows original run, and video releases that were released when the showw as in production.

If season sets of Alvin and the Chipmunks get made, I wonder if whatever company releases them will want to spend a little extra time and money to include all the music numbers. Going from memory, most epsiodes only had one song cover, as opposed to The Muppet Show having many song covers per episode. And Alvin and the Chipmunks was during the 1980s, when it started to become more common for people to have VCRs. During the 1980s it was especially common for childrens TV shows to have video releases (even if most 1980s video releases of childrens shows only included one episode, even if the show was a half-hour long), so I would expect that the shows producers to have considered paying for the video rights when the TV rights were being made.

[SSLFan]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=21742

[D'Snowth]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=21742


1950s? I thought the original animated series was from the 60s? Oh well, if that's what the movie is based on, then, yeah I can see now why the Chipettes would be excluded from the movie.

[heralde]

IMDB says original animated series ("The Alvin Show") was from 1961 to 1962.

I loved Clyde Crashcup and Leonardo btw, hilarious! Too bad they can't be in the movie.

[D'Snowth]

And IMDb is pretty reliable.

They're a bit more realiable these days than they used to be, but I think that's because of this new thing they have where whenever you contribute something to the database, you have to chose an option stating you are someone who actually works/worked on the show, movie, special, et cetera, or not.

[Winslow Leach]

1950s? I thought the original animated series was from the 60s? Oh well, if that's what the movie is based on, then, yeah I can see now why the Chipettes would be excluded from the movie.

The Chipmunks were born in 1958. Ross Bagdasarian (under the name David Seville) recorded a novelty song, "Witch Doctor," using sped-up vocals to imitate the chants of the witch doctor. Later that same year, he recorded "The Chipmunk Song," utilizing the same process, but this time identifying his sped-up vocals as Alvin, Simon and Theodore, the Chipmunks. Later he re-recorded "Witch Doctor," with the credit, David Seville & The Chipmunks.

BTW, Bagdasarian played the songwriter in Hitchcock's Rear Window.

[D'Snowth]

The Chipmunks were born in 1958. Ross Bagdasarian (under the name David Seville) recorded a novelty song, "Witch Doctor," using sped-up vocals to imitate the chants of the witch doctor. Later that same year, he recorded "The Chipmunk Song," utilizing the same process, but this time identifying his sped-up vocals as Alvin, Simon and Theodore, the Chipmunks. Later he re-recorded "Witch Doctor," with the credit, David Seville & The Chipmunks.

BTW, Bagdasarian played the songwriter in Hitchcock's Rear Window.I hear the original recording of "Witch Doctor" on the radio all the time, yet credited to David Seville and the Chipmunks.

[Winslow Leach]

I hear the original recording of "Witch Doctor" on the radio all the time, yet credited to David Seville and the Chipmunks.

Yeah, today it's mostly attributed to the Chipmunks, and even turns up on Chipmunk compilation albums as a Chipmunk track. But when "Witch Doctor" was originally recorded, I think it was only credited to David Seville, as this was prior to "The Chipmunk Song."

[Drtooth]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6jooThaqeYg

Try it now...


You know, I WARNED people about that movie years ago... well, at least a year and a half ago.... And it's even worse than I could have ever dreaded...

Let me count the ways...


Underdog is a REAL Dog, not an anthropomorphic cartoon character.
They gave him the darn wrong voice, so instead of talking in rhyming couplets, he just shoots predictable one liners
it has Jim "I'm a sponge on my family name" Belushi in it.
They even managed to get Simon Barsinnister wrong. he's gota full head of Hair for one thing.
And the other anthropomorphic characters are just plain animals as well..


All this from the same studio that saw half an episode of Inspector Gadget and made a movie before their deal with DIC ran out.

[Winslow Leach]

You know, I WARNED people about that movie years ago... well, at least a year and a half ago.... And it's even worse than I could have ever dreaded...

Let me count the ways...

Underdog is a REAL Dog, not an anthropomorphic cartoon character.
They gave him the darn wrong voice, so instead of talking in rhyming couplets, he just shoots predictable one liners
it has Jim "I'm a sponge on my family name" Belushi in it.
They even managed to get Simon Barsinnister wrong. he's gota full head of Hair for one thing.
And the other anthropomorphic characters are just plain animals as well..
All this from the same studio that saw half an episode of Inspector Gadget and made a movie before their deal with DIC ran out.

When I first heard about the Underdog movie, I assumed it would be something like Rocky & Bullwinkle, mixing the live actors with computer-generated/animated ones who looked/acted like the originals. I never thought they'd use a real dog...

[D'Snowth]

When I first heard about the Underdog movie, I assumed it would be something like Rocky & Bullwinkle, mixing the live actors with computer-generated/animated ones who looked/acted like the originals. I never thought they'd use a real dog...And THAT'S what I thought they'd do with the Chipmunks too! I should've known better since that's not what they did with Scooby Doo.

[Teheheman]

Honestly, I think that Underdog is gonna suck, and maybe the Chipmunks movie, but I think that they should've done the same thing they did with Scooby Doo with the Underdog movie. That is, make the dog CGI-ish. The thing that made Underdog is the fact that he kinda flexed his muscles, and didn't have much. Those 2 little bumps. What's next? Hong Kong Phooey? I'm telling you THAT is gonna be the new script. Underdog, though, has potential as a cute, take your kids out for the night, kinda movie. So does the Chipmunks, but it's not the kinda movie that I would wanna see on my own.

Daniel

[Winslow Leach]

So Jason Lee's playing David Seville in the Chipmunks flick, AND voicing Underdog...Tennessee Tuxedo, anyone? Or perhaps Chilly Willy?

[Teheheman]

CHILLY WILLY! It wouldn't shock me if there was a Woody Woodpecker movie coming out in 2008 or 2009.

Daniel

[Drtooth]

Honestly, I think that Underdog is gonna suck, and maybe the Chipmunks movie, but I think that they should've done the same thing they did with Scooby Doo with the Underdog movie. That is, make the dog CGI-ish. The thing that made Underdog is the fact that he kinda flexed his muscles, and didn't have much. Those 2 little bumps. What's next? Hong Kong Phooey? I'm telling you THAT is gonna be the new script. Underdog, though, has potential as a cute, take your kids out for the night, kinda movie. So does the Chipmunks, but it's not the kinda movie that I would wanna see on my own.

Daniel

Here's what I feel... Everything that made Underdog special and a satire are stripped down. he was a nebbish, not a sarcastic Raphael from the 80's TMNT wanna be. He was not the kind of superhero that you'd expect to fight well in battle. Polly was also supposed to be demure and kidnappable. Simon Barsinnister was a crazy hunched over scientist with a tall sidekick that always questioned his weopons and didn't get the point of what he was trying to do. Riff Raff was a Mafioso send up. And to add to it Underdog had a weak secret identity. From the previews the only thing they got right was him blowing up the phone booth when he changes.

I really can't find the appeal. kids don't know who he is and they don't care. The classic cartoon fanbase has been told to jump in the lake, since there is nothing in the movie that resembles their fond memories of the show.

If they NEEDED to do an Underdog Movie, they should have made it ALL CGI. That way they could do impossible stuff that's more believable. Even if they had to make him look like a real dog, he still could have gone to work and walked on his hind legs and wore glasses and stuff.

Hollywood really needs to rethink this sort of thing. Look at the new TMNT. They didn't need to make it a remake or hip it up for younger audiences. It worked because A) it was similar to the current cartoon, and B) it was a hanging sequal that fit in with the 1990's films. Only people who didn't like it were expecting them to say Cowabunga and Dude every 2 minutes...

[D'Snowth]

It wouldn't shock me if there was a Woody Woodpecker movie coming out in 2008 or 2009.

Daniel
Congratulations, you probably just jinxed it!

[Ilikemuppets]

IMDB says original animated series ("The Alvin Show") was from 1961 to 1962.

I loved Clyde Crashcup and Leonardo btw, hilarious! Too bad they can't be in the movie.

Did you see the 1991 episode where Professor Crashcup came in his time machine and brought the chipmunks form the "50's" to meet their selves in the 90's and they both traded places because they both sets of them though that life would be easier in a different time.

[Winslow Leach]

All I'm saying is...if I hear of an upcoming project called, let's say, Snagglepuss: The Movie...well...them's fightin' words!:mad:

[Drtooth]

Did you see the 1991 episode where Professor Crashcup came in his time machine and brought the chipmunks form the "50's" to meet their selves in the 90's and they both traded places because they both sets of them though that life would be easier in a different time.


Ahhhh... Back to Alvin's future. Pehaps the highlight of the Chipmunks got to the movies series.

[heralde]

Did you see the 1991 episode where Professor Crashcup came in his time machine and brought the chipmunks form the "50's" to meet their selves in the 90's and they both traded places because they both sets of them though that life would be easier in a different time.

Oh yeah...that's right! I forgot about that, thanks! That was such a great idea, the way the different Chimpmunks interacted with the different Daves. The modern chimpmunks made fun of the old music and Dave's outfit. And the older chimpmunks were shocked by Walkmans and the fact that they were going on tour! lol

[D'Snowth]

Did you see the 1991 episode where Professor Crashcup came in his time machine and brought the chipmunks form the "50's" to meet their selves in the 90's and they both traded places because they both sets of them though that life would be easier in a different time.No, but I saw a comic strip of Garfield, where the Garfield of today suddenly discovered the Garfield of the 70s rading the fridge.

[Ilikemuppets]

"Doctor, their talking about micro thingies and synthesonthings, and they look funny!" LOL!:zany:

Yeah, I remember that one too, Snwothy. I think that was during his 25 or 26th birthday. Surreal.:eek:

[D'Snowth]

Yeah, I remember that one too, Snwothy. I think that was during his 25 or 26th birthday. Surreal.:eek:And ever since then, I'VE been notorious for doing comics like that; I once did one where today's Rocky the Flying Squirrel met the first, original Rocky of the 50s.

[Drtooth]

What's next? Hong Kong Phooey? I'm telling you THAT is gonna be the new script.

I really should have responded to this sooner... there WAS a Hong Kong Phooey movie in the works, but nothing seems to have come out of it. Much like the Wacky Races Movie they originally planned in 1995 (After the Flintstones film was released) that was to star Dustin Hoffman as Dastardly (If you watch the movie Hook, his performance of the notorious pirate shows it would have been perfect). Nothing. And they keep kicking around a Jetsons film... nothing happened.

BTW, I started a new thread on a real GOOD idea that should have been done sooner... let's say it involves a famous fat tabby who likes to eat Lasagne and kick puppy dogs off tables...

[AngryEwok]

I saw the Alvin and the Chipmunks standup/poster display on my way in to see Ratatouille. I was borderline disgusted by the movie's apparent "urban" take on the boys, but like it's already been stated, unfortunatelty a lot of the suits in charge of properties these days will totally flush any history a property has for a last ditch effort money grab.

I guess turning a franchise "hip" with CGI characters wearing gold chains and likenesses of rappers has pretty much become par for the course...


It only increases my appreciation of Jim Henson's work.

[jacobsnchz]

The teaser website for Alvin and the Chipmunks is now online!
www.alvinandthechipmunksmovie.com (http://www.alvinandthechipmunksmovie.com)

You can also view the teaser trailer and read the synopsis!

[SSLFan]

Alvin ate Theodore's poo. Yuck! *chuckles*

[D'Snowth]

The teaser website for Alvin and the Chipmunks is now online!
www.alvinandthechipmunksmovie.com (http://www.alvinandthechipmunksmovie.com)

You can also view the teaser trailer and read the synopsis!I stand corrected: this movie looks terrible!

[SSLFan]

It could turn out ok.:sympathy:

[Drtooth]

Firstly, I will say this:

Note the voices of the Chipmunks are the classic 1980's series voice actors. not celebrities sped up or anything cheesy like that.

But I will say Dave Seville would be perfectly played by Bob Sagat. he has the square look and sound that Dave had. Jason Lee could be good, but I don't think so.

I hate the fact they have to resort to jokes about doo doos. I can take a poo/fart joke ONLY if it's clever. The Japanese make the BEST poop jokes. My favorite was during an episode of Ultimate Muscle in which Kid Muscle fights a chojin that can turn into a shoe. how do you defeat a giant shoe? Make him step in a giant poop.

I'm holding out some hope here. This doesn't look as bad as Underdog...yet.

[Winslow Leach]

I stand corrected: this movie looks terrible!

Yep. This was the first trailer they showed before the Simpsons. The poop-eating turned me right off this one.

[Drtooth]

Yep. This was the first trailer they showed before the Simpsons. The poop-eating turned me right off this one.

Actually, poop eating reminds me of another poo joke the japanese did better. You see, in Dr. Slump, there is a superhero called Flyman (rough translation of his name, I forget what it really is and I'm too lazy to thumb through my Dr. Slump collection to look it up) but as he is a fly, he discovers poo and calls it the greatest culinary product of his planet... cuz we all know what flies eat.

[jacobsnchz]

Yep. This was the first trailer they showed before the Simpsons. The poop-eating turned me right off this one.

Sometimes scenes from trailers aren't shown in some movies. I can't wait for it though. :)

[Winslow Leach]

Well, at least the Chipmunks are wearing their trademark sweaters (at least in the teaser), and sound right.

[jacobsnchz]

Well, at least the Chipmunks are wearing their trademark sweaters (at least in the teaser), and sound right.

Yeah but where's Alvin's hat?

[heralde]

Heh, all that black and white footage was of Beatles fans!

I can't stand toilet humor jokes, it's neither clever nor amusing. The original chimpmunk shows were way beyond that.

It is true that sometimes scenes from the trailer aren't used in the actual movie. I'd really have to see more of the film before I decide.

I don't understand all these remakes, they don't seem to know why these shows were big in the first place.

[D'Snowth]

Yeah but where's Alvin's hat?Why does Simon have a hood on his sweater? Why do the Chipmunks have tails? !

I don't understand all these remakes, they don't seem to know why these shows were big in the first place.I think they're basically just DESPERATE to get the younger generations to "appreciate" what they're parents/grandparents grew up loving. I'll admit, that IS how I got into Rocky and Bullwinkle, but other than that, my mom introduced me to shows like The Andy Griffith Show, I Love Lucy, and Leave it to Beaver, my dad introduced me to The Gene Autry Show and Bewitched, and I introduced myself to I Dream of Jeannie, Green Acres, M*A*S*H, Sanford and Son, and The Munsters. Not to mention when I was little, a lot of old Looney Tunes, and old Hanna Barbera cartoons like Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, Tom and Jerry, The Flintstones, The Jetsons, and the like. But these days, today's kids find shows like that "too old and boring" since they have no swearing, blasphemy, or sexually oriented gags.

[heralde]

But these days, today's kids find shows like that "too old and boring" since they have no swearing, blasphemy, or sexually oriented gags.

I don't know, I think there have always been kids with, heh, low taste levels, just like there are adults. There have also been kids who know good shows when they see them. It just seems that lately entertainment is being targeted at the lowest denominator.

[D'Snowth]

Trust me, you just can't sell anything these days without incorporating things like that into it; that's just the kind of horrible world we live in today.

[heralde]

Actually most of these remakes have not done well at all. Adults don't go to see them, and they don't properly introduce kids to these older characters. Plus the storylines just never work. They really haven't been selling.

Toilet humor jokes have (unfortunately) been in kids movies for years, it's not a recent thing, heh.

There are still good movies being made and people still go to see them. There's just less and less because it's easier to make the low humor ones. I do hope there's a back lash and things start getting better again.

It's hard to understand how we could let the world get so messed up (and I'm not just talking about movies). But then again, I haven't lived a full life time, maybe it's always been this way. It's not an ideal world, it's a flawed one by nature. All we can do it our best.

[Winslow Leach]

I can't believe this, but there was some talk not too long ago about a "new Three Stooges" series! Now THAT'S scraping the bottom of the barrel.

No one--but no one--could ever replace Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp and (okay) Joe. I haven't seen much of Curly Joe's work, but I'm sure even HE is irreplaceable!

Fortunately, the estate of the Stooges cancelled these plans.

[MrsPepper]

I saw a teaser cardboard cutout for this at my theatre! All the chipmunks had sunglasses on. The character design looks pretty cool.

[Drtooth]

I can't believe this, but there was some talk not too long ago about a "new Three Stooges" series! Now THAT'S scraping the bottom of the barrel.


lemee guess... the plans were by one Jefferey Scott, right? He's been trying for years to bring back his Grandfather (Moe's) work. he even incorporated it into cartoons he wrote, most noticably Muppet babies and Captain N (In "Wishful Thinking" Kid Icarus makes a wish that turns Mother Brain, King Hippo and Eggplant Wizard into Moe, Curley and Larry respectively).

Actually most of these remakes have not done well at all. Adults don't go to see them, and they don't properly introduce kids to these older characters. Plus the storylines just never work. They really haven't been selling.


I said it before and I'll say it again. The Bullwinkle movie got EVERYTHING right, even the obscure "Hail Pottsylvania" anthem that was only used in one episode. They added one tiny thing, and blew the film. I loved it, but no one else did. I say, they could have made it a real moose and a real squirrell, and they talked like gangstas or something.

But I do NOT think kids today are quite that dense. Sure, they watch Disney's crap tweencoms and keep pokemon alive for another million years (Super Mario was the best thing your company ever produced. how 'bout making another Mario cartoon instead!). But I don't think they want Underdog talking like Raphael from the 80's Ninja turtles. I remember a KID actually came up with a petition (that didn't work) to block Loonatics Unleashed.

I mean, Alvin and the Chipmunks could do fine. kids constantly hear "Christmas, christmas time is near" every year. They might have even heard them sing other songs too. But do kids even KNOW about Underdog? Syndication reruns have been dead for years (Blame Judge shows and cable).

I agree. What is the point of hipping something up for an audience that won't care, while alienating a fan base that potentially would see the movie with their kids? I'm boycotting Underdog, myself. i will buy merchandise and the crummy DVD releases, though. But as far as I'm concerned, He's a lovable nebbish who you wouldn't expect to be the strongest in the Universe (I reffer to episode "Zot").

Now, I'm repeating myslef for the trillionth time. TMNT got it right. To the older generation it took after the comics and the movies. To the younger kids, it took after the current cartoon series. It had appeal of BOTH age groups, and it was one of my favorite movies of the year.

[D'Snowth]

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKYmcrmzxM4

These guys were created just about the same time the Chipmunks were... they even SOUND like the Chipmunks!

[BeakerSqueedom]

I can't believe this, but there was some talk not too long ago about a "new Three Stooges" series! Now THAT'S scraping the bottom of the barrel.

No one--but no one--could ever replace Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp and (okay) Joe. I haven't seen much of Curly Joe's work, but I'm sure even HE is irreplaceable!

Fortunately, the estate of the Stooges cancelled these plans.

What? WHAT?

SAVE THOSE LEGENDS FROM HUMILIATION! D:

They certainly can't! It's like making a Thriller video without Michael Jackson and suddenly putting Akon into it!

*Is a stooges fanatic*

[Barry Lee]

That looks absolutely terrible.
I dont know why ANYBODY would be excited about this movie.

[D'Snowth]

That looks absolutely terrible.
I dont know why ANYBODY would be excited about this movie.


Obsessive die-hard fans might be excited just because it's Chipmunk related, but yeah, that trailer has killed any interest I MIGHT have had in seeing this movie. Heck, even that "Little Alvin and the Mini-Munks" live action/puppetry DVD special looked better than this.

[Winslow Leach]

lemee guess... the plans were by one Jefferey Scott, right? He's been trying for years to bring back his Grandfather (Moe's) work.


I'm pretty sure it was Scott. It was someone directly related to the Stooges who wanted to revive them with new actors.:rolleyes:

[Winslow Leach]

What? WHAT?

SAVE THOSE LEGENDS FROM HUMILIATION! D:

They certainly can't! It's like making a Thriller video without Michael Jackson and suddenly putting Akon into it!

*Is a stooges fanatic*

Kewl! Always great to meet another Stooges fan!:)

And no, you CANNOT replace the originals and call them the Three Stooges. There was something called "The New Monkees" at one point, and that bombed. There were even a couple of cruddy Laurel & Hardy "updates" (that I think went straight to video). WHY?:rolleyes:

[Telly]

I'm gonna go see it. I grew up on the little guys. I also grew up on Scooby-Doo. When I first saw the publicity shots and trailers, I thought it was going to suck. I ended up LOVING it. Look what it did for the dog. It brought him back into the spot light and away from Scrappy. Maybe it'll just vanish underneath a rug like Garfield? I was never a big Garfield fan, but still went to the movie and mildly enjoyed it. I liked it enough to buy it on DVD. The sequel....didn't see it.
I'll see the Chipmunks sequel if the Chippettes are in it and they sing "Girls of Rock n Roll" cuz that'd be SWEET!

[D'Snowth]

My mom MIGHT like to see it, she too grew up with the Chipmunks (heck, one of her favorite "Christmas carols" is "The Chipmunk Song"), plus I bet she'd get a kick out of them covering "Funky Town U.S.A."

[BeakerSqueedom]

XD Time for toys and time for cheers...

[heralde]

I grew up with the chimpmunks, and I'll watch the chimpmunks. In my opinion, that trailer did not show the chimpunks. ;)

[Drtooth]

I'm pretty sure it was Scott. It was someone directly related to the Stooges who wanted to revive them with new actors.:rolleyes:

Clearly I am not surprised... I have his book right here....

These are the following attempts as of 2000 or so when the book came out...

1989
Three stooges: 2nd Generation
Columbia pictures/ Jeffery Scott Productions

Shared Story Credit
Screenplay by Jefferey Scott

1993
The Three Stooges Live at MGM GRAND
Jeffery Scott Productions/ Fred Moch & Assoc. (Half Hour Live Stage Show)
Executive Producer
Co-Written by Jeffrey Scott

1994
The Three Stooges: Next generation
Columbia/ Interscope/ Jeffrey Scott Productions
Producer
Story and Screenplay Jeffrey Scott

1995
Wee Stooges
Jeffrey Scott Productions/ABC
Created By/ Executive Producer
Drown and out in Beverly Hills (Pilot)
Last of the Moe Haircuts (pilot)


The last one was a cartoon, and the only one that actually sold was the live action stage show.

[heralde]

But I do NOT think kids today are quite that dense. Sure, they watch Disney's crap tweencoms and keep pokemon alive for another million years (Super Mario was the best thing your company ever produced. how 'bout making another Mario cartoon instead!). But I don't think they want Underdog talking like Raphael from the 80's Ninja turtles. I remember a KID actually came up with a petition (that didn't work) to block Loonatics Unleashed.



Definitely kids aren't as out of it as people seem to think. That's interesting about the Loonatics Unleashed petition, I didn't know about that!~

[Drtooth]

It didn't bloody work. I dunno, like older people they tend to vary. Some kids fall for cheap rediculous gimicks, some don't.

[heralde]

Yup, like I said before, I think it's always been this way. There are kids who recognize quality and there are kids who don't. Just like adults. Hehe

[Winslow Leach]

Clearly I am not surprised... I have his book right here....

These are the following attempts as of 2000 or so when the book came out...

1989
Three stooges: 2nd Generation
Columbia pictures/ Jeffery Scott Productions

Shared Story Credit
Screenplay by Jefferey Scott

1993
The Three Stooges Live at MGM GRAND
Jeffery Scott Productions/ Fred Moch & Assoc. (Half Hour Live Stage Show)
Executive Producer
Co-Written by Jeffrey Scott

1994
The Three Stooges: Next generation
Columbia/ Interscope/ Jeffrey Scott Productions
Producer
Story and Screenplay Jeffrey Scott

1995
Wee Stooges
Jeffrey Scott Productions/ABC
Created By/ Executive Producer
Drown and out in Beverly Hills (Pilot)
Last of the Moe Haircuts (pilot)


The last one was a cartoon, and the only one that actually sold was the live action stage show.

The Three Stooges founded Comedy 3 Productions, Inc. in 1959, shortly after they stopped making theatrical shorts. The company still exists today, as C3 Entertainment, and are the folks one has to go to to propose anything official featuring the Stooges. C3 deals with film production, retail sales and the licensing/merchandising of the Three Stooges. This includes books, videos, movies, TV or stage shows. Anything without the C3 seal of approval is bogus.

There was a TV movie made in 2000 called The Three Stooges, based on the official biography The Three Stooges: From Amalgamated Morons to American Icons by Michael Fleming. Mel Gibson (who wrote an introduction to the book) was one of the exec producers, and the film was directed by James Frawley (The Muppet Movie). It was produced by C3 Entertainment (as was the book), so it qualifies as an official Stooge product.

The film is pretty good, but too much is crammed into about 90 minutes (without commercials). For instance, Shemp (John Kassir, who was the voice of the Crypt Keeper on Tales from the Crypt) is introduced as Curly's replacement. A scene or two later, Moe and Larry are attending Shemp's funeral! Although the film is seen through Moe's eyes, I don't know if his grandson had anything to do with it.

According to the official Stooges website, C3 Entertainment is getting ready to produce a big-budget Three Stooges movie for theaters, directed by Bobby and Peter Farrelly (Dumb & Dumber, Me, Myself & Irene, Shallow Hal, There's Something About Mary).

[Drtooth]

I loved that made for TV movie. I usually hate these kind of "look at the scandelous crap that happened behind the scenes" telefilms, but this one was tastefully done. Mike Chiclas (sp?) did a wonderful job as Curley.

As for the new film... well, Somehow I feel the Farrely brothers can handle the immaturity, but it won't be the same.

[Winslow Leach]

I loved that made for TV movie. I usually hate these kind of "look at the scandelous crap that happened behind the scenes" telefilms, but this one was tastefully done. Mike Chiclas (sp?) did a wonderful job as Curley.

As for the new film... well, Somehow I feel the Farrely brothers can handle the immaturity, but it won't be the same.

Yeah, Michael Chiklis was a good Curly. Most of the material in the telefilm came directly from the book.

The Farrellys have gone on record as saying they are major Stooge fans (they were interviewed in the book), and claim a lot of material in their films were inspired one way or another by the Stooges...although I don't recall Moe using "hair gel" in any of the films...;) But hopefully they'll do justice to their lives and career.

[Winslow Leach]

Chiklis was also a decent John Belushi in the horrible flick Wired. Now THAT was a hack-job first class, with none of Belushi's friends or family involved.

[Telly]

Didn't Larry get his junk caught in his zipper once? Kidding.

[Winslow Leach]

Didn't Larry get his junk caught in his zipper once? Kidding.

LOL!

And Curly sold a kid his dead parakeet with the head taped on.

[Telly]

Ew...Curly had kids?

[Telly]

Every time I think of Three Stooges always think of the midget cartoon characters that were on Scooby-Doo

[Winslow Leach]

Ew...Curly had kids?

I believe he did.

The parakeet reference was from Dumb & Dumber, when that mobster guy decapitates (offscreen) Jim Carrey's parakeet. Carrey then sells the bird, with its head taped on, to some neighborhood kid.

[Telly]

Hahaha I got the parakeet reference. I was just thrown off that Curly had kids cuz I was thinking of the cartoon versions of them for some reason

[frogboy4]

Please excuse the thread I started. This one was kinda hidden, but I should have known there was one around here somewhere...:o

Directed by Tim Hill...well, Muppets From Space is by far my least favorite Muppet film so I'm still on the fence.

The poster didn't give me much hope. Creepy hip-hop-look and sneakerless chipmunks. But the trailer shows promise. Still, what's with the no sneakers? That was really their thing. :p

[D'Snowth]

Wow... why do so many people not like Muppets From Space? And Kermit's Swamp Years? They're two of the better present-day Muppet movies around!

[heralde]

Well, I guess like we said before it's very subjective. I can't watch MFS for more than two seconds, it really gets me down. The humor is just too jaded and mean, and not as clever as previous productions. In my opinion. Clearly you see something in it that I don't, and that's fine. :)

I haven't seen KSY, so I can't comment. Overall, I just think it's very difficult to reproduce and continue the work Jim created. :)

[Drtooth]

Wow... why do so many people not like Muppets From Space? And Kermit's Swamp Years? They're two of the better present-day Muppet movies around!

I loved MFS, even when I heard they had a better ending and Uncle Matt until Jerry juhl got angry that someone decided to make the movie completely more juvenile than it was supposed to. it is hardly the worst thing they did. Look at OZ. Yuckka.

[frogboy4]

Wow... why do so many people" not like Muppets From Space? And Kermit's Swamp Years? They're two of the better present-day Muppet movies around!

I guess it could be a generational thing. :sleep: :boo: (I'm a geezer)

I remember going to the theater in 1979 and seeing the most wonderful movie in the world, The Muppet Movie. I was five years old. I still remember the conversations with my family on the ride home.

That film helped set me on my life-path. The whole "making people happy" with your gifts made sense to me. It was an even-paced movie with fun on many levels.

Muppets From Space and Kermit's Swamp Years just didn't hit that chord with me and also seemed to be a bit presumptuous in how they emulated earlier (and arguably better) films without much finesse. Well, that's just my take. Muppet Movie, Caper and even Christmas Carol are geared to all ages more than the Space or Swamp.

They seem kiddified in comparison. There are some brilliant parts to them, but just don't seem to have the original spark/edge and genuine sweetness of other projects. :sympathy:

I did like the Muppets Oz and Very Merry Muppet Christmas Special (and thought the presence of Pepe and the nipple jokes did work, while some other fans cringed). Just my take on it.

My many years around MC have shown me that we've all got our own unique take on the Muppets. I think it does have to do with how each of us was introduced to them.

Anyway...chipmunks should have shoes! Who's with me?

[heralde]

Muppets From Space and Kermit's Swamp Years just didn't hit that chord with me and also seemed to be a bit presumptuous in how they emulated earlier (and arguably better) films without much finesse. Well, that's just my take. Muppet Movie, Caper and even Christmas Carol are geared to all ages more than the Space or Swamp.

They seem kiddified in comparison. There are some brilliant parts to them, but just don't seem to have the original spark/edge and genuine sweetness of other projects. :sympathy:


I agree, I think that was well put. MFS and other modern projects seem to be trying to bring the original edge and sweetness, but it comes out either slightly mean or fake, at least for me.

And yes even if there are good parts to them, they cannot be compared to the earlier films when Jim was involved.

[Drtooth]

Muppets From Space and Kermit's Swamp Years just didn't hit that chord with me and also seemed to be a bit presumptuous in how they emulated earlier (and arguably better) films without much finesse. Well, that's just my take. Muppet Movie, Caper and even Christmas Carol are geared to all ages more than the Space or Swamp.

They seem kiddified in comparison. There are some brilliant parts to them, but just don't seem to have the original spark/edge and genuine sweetness of other projects. :sympathy:


I understand how it is, and I really do think the studio or someone was to blame for taking the original script and kiddyfying it in MFS. But the fact of the matter is, until Muppet Oz came out, MCC was my least favorite of all the ones I've seen (Still need to see KSY, though), due in part it was like basically half muppet, and mostly Michael Cain's film. They took second stage to the human actors. MTI cleared that up, with only 2 human main actors in the body of the story, balancing the pirate crew with muppets and humans perfectly.

But enough of this. it is a muppet forum and all, so we could always get about a new thread on the subject. Let's just ponder how this movie will or won't work.

I personally hope they can rerelease Chipmunk Punk, which is the reason the Chipmunks had a TV series in the 80's.

[Winslow Leach]

Yeah, let's all pitch in, and buy the Chipmunks some shoes, man!:)

[Ilikemuppets]

Lol, yeah by the time I was born, the Chipettes were already permanent fixtures in the Chipmunk world, so it's actually kind of hard for me to imagine the Chipmunks WITHOUT the Chipettes... except for the old "Chipmunk Song" that is, lol. Yeah, me too! And I used to like them. But I don't mined them, I just think they could go with out them.

And ever since then, I'VE been notorious for doing comics like that; I once did one where today's Rocky the Flying Squirrel met the first, original Rocky of the 50s. What's the difference?

The teaser website for Alvin and the Chipmunks is now online!
www.alvinandthechipmunksmovie.com (http://www.alvinandthechipmunksmovie.com)

You can also view the teaser trailer and read the synopsis!Potty Humor...:p

I don't know, I think there have always been kids with, heh, low taste levels, just like there are adults. There have also been kids who know good shows when they see them. It just seems that lately entertainment is being targeted at the lowest denominator. That's very true. But I think a lot of it has to do with what they put out for kids nowday and the whole old=bad thing, too.

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKYmcrmzxM4

These guys were created just about the same time the Chipmunks were... they even SOUND like the Chipmunks! Yeah, there were a lot of ripoff out back them make to cash off of their success.

What? WHAT?

SAVE THOSE LEGENDS FROM HUMILIATION! D:

They certainly can't! It's like making a Thriller video without Michael Jackson and suddenly putting Akon into it!

*Is a stooges fanatic*You know, back in the day when they used to air the Smooth Crimal video, there was a version where Alvin was on the screen emulating the dance moves. and he kept getting thrown off the corner of the screen. He kept talking the whole time he was on screen, hehe! Oh yeah, he had a hat on just like Mike's, too.

My mom MIGHT like to see it, she too grew up with the Chipmunks (heck, one of her favorite "Christmas carols" is "The Chipmunk Song"), plus I bet she'd get a kick out of them covering "Funky Town U.S.A." I hope she likes it.

I personally hope they can rerelease Chipmunk Punk, which is the reason the Chipmunks had a TV series in the 80's. It's availibal at their website, I really wanna get it. But It was that and the re airing of the original series being such a big success the relaunched the chipmunks again.

[Drtooth]

For a hillarious send up of the Chipmunks, look here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vpNNduExImk

[heralde]

That's very true. But I think a lot of it has to do with what they put out for kids nowday and the whole old=bad thing, too.



Yup, I keep saying kids today are being taught more than ever that if something is old, they don't need to know about it. They just need to know what's going on in their small bubble world.

[Ilikemuppets]

For a hillarious send up of the Chipmunks, look here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vpNNduExImk Al man! I saw that episode not to long ago! Classic!:)

Yup, I keep saying kids today are being taught more than ever that if something is old, they don't need to know about it. They just need to know what's going on in their small bubble world. That kinda worries me! Why do they choose Making a buck on over something that's not built to last over substance?

[Drtooth]

Yup, I keep saying kids today are being taught more than ever that if something is old, they don't need to know about it. They just need to know what's going on in their small bubble world.


mmmmmmmm... depends. For style purposes, they do wear nostalgic T-Shirts, and some of them are 1980's kid posers. I recal the time girls were wearing Looney Tunes T-shirts and they didn't give a Bunny's Bug about or who they were. Leading to the misconception Tweety is a girl, and dressing him up in girl's clothes. (If I had that episode of Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries I could prove he's a boy. he actually makes reference to people that think he's a girl).

So you can see a lot of goth kids pretending to like Nightmare before Christmas, and punk people wearing shirts of bands they never listen to. i fear even my 17 year old sister is an 80's posser. She pretends to like SMB Super Show, and she really doesn't!

[Telly]

I thought I remember an episode where Sylvester dressed his thumb up in a dress and a bonnet and Tweety kissing it, thinking it was a girl. Thus making Tweety a male or a lesbian. I'm guessing male. :rolleyes:

[Ilikemuppets]

I recall the time girls were wearing Looney Tunes T-shirts and they didn't give a Bunny's Bug about or who they were.
Yeah, Tweety's a boy LOL! But maybe they we're wearing it because the characters looked cute or something?

[Drtooth]

It started out that way, then they made him go all Mr.2 and be a transvestite for marketing purposes.

In the Sylvester and Tweety episode (I forget the title) Granny says, "Some people belive in aliens" (or something to that effect) to which Tweety replies "Pwobabwy the same people who tink I'm a girl!"

[Ilikemuppets]

You mean they put him in dresses or something? I mean some people do that to baby boys.

But I know it's a cartoon bird?

[Telly]

Not sure if they've put him in a dress, but I've seen him surrounded by hearts and flowers on women's shirts. It bugs me when they do that! Same with when they started doing that with Scooby-Doo!

[Ilikemuppets]

Oh, gotcha! I guess he's just cute enough to pull it off.

[Drtooth]

Oh yeah. I saw that Scooby Doo stuff. Who wants to bet Elmo is their next target?

[Telly]

i'm not a big fan of Elmo so they can do that. :p

[Drtooth]

"HI! Welcome to Elmo's World! Elmo is so happy to see you. Guess what Elmo's thinking about today?"
(goes to closet and dresses and girly clothes fall on him)
"That's right! Gender confusion!":zany:

[Ilikemuppets]

Oh yeah. I saw that Scooby Doo stuff. Who wants to bet Elmo is their next target?

You mean they haven't already?

[Drtooth]

Bloody Awful (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21jRQgIwBnQ)

I for one will definately skip this one and just go for my old "Back to Alvin's Future" VHS...

MAZUI!

[frogboy4]

:flirt: I Liked It! ;)

The first "poop eating" teaser ad was met with mixed reviews. Yeah, it was crude and tried too hard, but heck I did a spit-take! Those types of jokes don't usually appeal to me and they could have done better, but it didn't really offend me.

This new ad is good. Not great, but pretty good. It appears that the Chipmunks are going back to their roots is some ways (size etc) while nodding to their 80s incarnation and creating something new on top of that. I see nothing wrong here. Most of the jokes hit with me.

I predict, especially with the lack of holiday films, this film will turn a sizeable profit, make most fans happy and begin a new industry. I can't judge the actual film from a bunch of clips, but if the story holds up (and is not just a series of gags like so many of these films) they get my blessing! :zany:

To add - I grew up watching their old 80s cartoon. I wasn't their biggest fan, but I was a fan nonetheless. Everybody has his/her taste, but I don't see what's not to like?

[SSLFan]

it's a nice trailer, and i for one can't wait til' it hits theaters.;)

[wwfpooh]

I don't care for this, because again all this is is Hollywood's ploy to make money off an old classic by revising it and targeting it at kids who have NO freakin' idea WHO the characters are (just like Disney butchered Underdog and George of the Jungle, and others have done the same to Rocky and Bullwinkle, Dudley Do-Right, Dennis the Menace, Garfield, Popeye [admittedly Popeye is the ONLY semi-decent toon-to-live-action film I can stand, simply 'cause it remains loyal to the canon, doesn't add too many effects to the story, and has the right actors--Robin Willaims and Shelley Duvall--as the cast], and several others)! I mean, what's next...a ruining of Shultz' Peanuts by using the Robot Chicken parody as the basis for the possibility of a film? Good lord...I hope the Fraggle Rock movie doesn't fall into this trap!

[frogboy4]

I don't care for this, because again all this is is Hollywood's ploy to make money off an old classic by revising it and targeting it at kids who have NO freakin' idea WHO the characters are ...I hope the Fraggle Rock movie doesn't fall into this trap!

I get what you mean about many of these types of projetcs. I'm glad that the Chipmunks' individual personalities appear to be intact from what's in this trailer. I just hope there's a reason for the movie other than cashing-in. The summer teaser poster with them looking all gangsta-hip-hop made my heart sink. Glad it doesn't look they went that direction. :cool:

The Fraggles are in the Henson Company's capable hands. They have always been very protective of that particular property. That's why Disney didn't get them in the deal. No need to worry. Gobo, Mokey, Wembley, Boober and Red are safe. :excited:

[Fozzie Bear]

I mean, what's next...a ruining of Shultz' Peanuts by using the Robot Chicken parody as the basis for the possibility of a film?

Peanuts is well protected by Creative Associates and United Features Syndicate.

I didn't like the "raisin" joke in the trailer. It seems that is way off course for what the Chipmunks' humor was about.

[Telly]

Definately going to see it!

[Drtooth]

I don't care for this, because again all this is is Hollywood's ploy to make money off an old classic by revising it and targeting it at kids who have NO freakin' idea WHO the characters are (just like Disney butchered Underdog and George of the Jungle, and others have done the same to Rocky and Bullwinkle, Dudley Do-Right, Dennis the Menace, Garfield, Popeye [admittedly Popeye is the ONLY semi-decent toon-to-live-action film I can stand, simply 'cause it remains loyal to the canon, doesn't add too many effects to the story, and has the right actors--Robin Willaims and Shelley Duvall--as the cast]

Well, as far as the others are concerned, yeah. But I cannot say they didn't try with Rocky and Bullwinkle. I mean, they even had June Foray play Rocky, and the male cartoon voices were all handled by a Jay Ward historian and verteren voice actor (indeed, Keith Scott even wrote a book about Ward, called "The Moose that Roared"). They even sang the Pottsylvainian national anthem, which was only shown in one episode segment during the "Rocket Fuel" saga. They tried too hard, though. They got everything right, but by adding a female lead, they corrupted the batch. I also feel that George of the Jungle was done some justice. But Dudley was way off.

I say, who are they fooling? The kids that know the property won't like the changes, and the kids that don't know the property won't care. Look at how poorly Underdog did.

I would rather the Chipmunks be their real size. They were only chipmunk sized in one appearance as puppets on the Ed Sullivan show. All other times (The Alvin Show, Alvin and the Chipmunks) they were of normal size. the one thing that irks me (aside from the potty humor, and the almost greedy, uncaring nature of Dave Seville in this film) is all the "look at how small they are" gags. I can see the movie being mostly small jokes.

There had better be merchandise somewhere planned. I ain't suffering through having a big element of my childhood trashed without getting a T-Shirt or PVC figurine collection. I had a gentle humor with Inspector Gadget (Which I'll admit, I liked the first time I saw it, just not after that), mainly because there was at least a Bean Bag of him.

[frogboy4]

Peanuts is well protected by Creative Associates and United Features Syndicate.

I didn't like the "raisin" joke in the trailer. It seems that is way off course for what the Chipmunks' humor was about.

:o Fun Fact:
As the co-owner of a family of mice (Speedy, Squinty, Spunky and Crinkle) I do know that mice eat their own...well...poop to aid in digestion! I looked it up and was concerned. :eek:

I'm not sure if chipmunks do that too, but it definitely wasn't what they were going for in that first teaser ad. :smirk:

As for these other properties-turned-event-movies, I liked the CG model and Bill Murray voice artistry of Garfield, that's it though. I wasn't at all pleased with Rocky and Bullwinkle. I liked Boris and Natasha - the human casting there was spot-on. The animation of the characters seemed weird and off to me. Underdog, well I can't say too much about it because the trailers made me want to throw something at the screen. Inspector Gadget had its interesting moments, but I didn't care for it.

Next year, reportedly, the new remake film will be The Smurfs in CG. The property lends itself to the medium, but the quality depends on the writing. Sometimes it my morbid curiousity wins-out and I go to see these things!

[D'Snowth]

Off-topic a bit...

Check out this old-school Simon avatar (http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k290/snowthbo/nerdyrodent.gif) I made.

[Drtooth]

Well, the problem with Bullwinkle... well... Bullwinkle fans know that when you put higher quality animation with a property famoose for bad animation, you're really taking a jump. I have qualms about CG characters pasted into live action films, but at least it wasn't a real Moose and squirrel. unlike Underdog, which totally missed what it was supposed to be. And in every aspect as well.

[quote]Next year, reportedly, the new remake film will be The Smurfs in CG. The property lends itself to the medium, but the quality depends on the writing. Sometimes it my morbid curiousity wins-out and I go to see these things!

I really hope when it's made, the Smurfs (or should it be Smurves?) can keep their original alternate middle ages timeline. I keep having fears about Smurfs being brought to the current time line and rapping and stuff. Even still, if its close to source material, which source material is it going to be like? The comic and American cartoon are pretty different from what i've heard-including the fact Gargamel in the comic doesn't like Smurf Stew, even eating one repulses him. I think if they keep it close to the source material we'll have a decent project.

But when it comes to these movies, I just wanna see new merchandise. Fat Albert merchandise came out too late after the movie (Sababa released 4 vynal figures, but never released the rest of the Junkyard gang...and worse. No Brown Hornet), and I was disappointed the Disney store didn't have so much as an Underdog Beanbag (when George of the Jungle and Gadget yeilded some plush). So, it will all be worth it if Alvin gets some nice cartoon looking toys and t-shirts. I'd love to see Smurf stuff too, but we still have the Schliche (sp?) Figurines if you look hard enough for them.

[frogboy4]

Did Gargamel try to eat the Smurfs on the cartoon? I always thought that he wanted to turn them into gold. Azreal appeared to be the hungry one. :concern:

:confused: IMDB rumors John Lithgow in the cast. I wonder if he'd be Gargamel or Vanity? And Julia Sweeney is the only other rumored cast listing. Smurfette? I always felt that show imploded with the addition of Baby, Grandpa and all of the other little new Smurfs. I also agree that they should keep it in the Middle Ages. That's a huge part of the mystique of the Smurfs IMHO. The time period alone creates endless story opportunities! I always wondered why the Smurfs hadn't been revived yet. :zany:

[theprawncracker]

Oh wow, that Alvin trailer looks great. I for one am very excited about this movie and think it'll be great.

[Beakerfan]

Ok, after watching the new trailer, I think I will go see it, mostly because Theodore has always been so adorable and they appear to have stuck to his main characteristics.

[Drtooth]

Did Gargamel try to eat the Smurfs on the cartoon? I always thought that he wanted to turn them into gold. Azreal appeared to be the hungry one. :concern:

I sort of remember that he did. But then again, i haven't seen Smurfs for years. I did catch an episode on CN back when I think I was in High School, and that's way way off. I'm sure there are other changes the cartoon had the comics never did.


I always wondered why the Smurfs hadn't been revived yet.

Breif period in the 90's? They had new toys. They never quite sold, however. And they were marketed towards girls. The cartoon hasn't returned, except for CN reruns.

[Fozzie Bear]

I always wondered why the Smurfs hadn't been revived yet. :zany:

They were, slightly. There was an animated anti-war commercial featuring the peaceful Smurfs and suddenly BOOM! Bombs began to fall and they were under attack. It showed (if I remember correctly) a deceased Smurfette with Baby Smurf crying in the streets. It was horrible.

Just like violence is horrible, no matter what. They made their point with this little animated piece.

[frogboy4]

They were, slightly. There was an animated anti-war commercial featuring the peaceful Smurfs and suddenly BOOM! Bombs began to fall and they were under attack. It showed (if I remember correctly) a deceased Smurfette with Baby Smurf crying in the streets. It was horrible.

Just like violence is horrible, no matter what. They made their point with this little animated piece.

I remember that. Thought it was a fan made piece. It was disturbing. :eek:

[D'Snowth]

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM3VE4ef9M

The audio has been slowed down to the point where you can clearly hear Ross Bagdasarian's original recording of the Chipmunks' dialogue before he sped them up to give them their squeakiness.

[Beakerfan]

Heehee! That's cute!

[Drtooth]

Just like violence is horrible, no matter what. They made their point with this little animated piece.

Bone chilling and truthful.

But as far as the Smurfs go, it's not as if they weren;t still popular in their native Europe. I can remember a few years back, there was this Italian market that had imported stuff. It had imported Smurf cookies. Sadly, they never had them again, and I didn't get the chance to get them that one time.

Off topic, there are an awful lot of Japanese/Asian import grocers that I can get to, and I always buy Anpanman cookies.

But back on topic... I dunno... they still sell Schliche (sp?) figurines in independant toy stores. They are clearly imports, but that's gotta be something.


And don't forget the upcoming DVD.

[wwfpooh]

Look at how poorly Underdog did.And yet, despite that, people went to see it and sadly, many of the younger generation actually praised the film...:( Co-creator Harris hit the ceiling and still they up and ruined his canine hero's legacy. Wally Cox must be rolling in his grave. *shakes head*

[Fozzie Bear]

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM3VE4ef9M

The audio has been slowed down to the point where you can clearly hear Ross Bagdasarian's original recording of the Chipmunks' dialogue before he sped them up to give them their squeakiness.

That was very very interesting! Thanks for sharing that!

[wwfpooh]

Interesting indeed. :)

[D'Snowth]

Okay... what the **** just happened? From what I was told, Ross Bagdasarian Jr. and his wife Janice Karman were going to supply the voices of the Chipmunks (Ross doing Alvin and Simon, and Janice doing Theodore like they've been doing for the past three decades), and then all of the sudden Justin Long (whom I'm actually a fan of from Dodgeball) is doing Alvin, Jesse McCartney is doing Theodore, and I don't know who the **** is doing Simon... when did THIS happen? ! WHY? !

[wwfpooh]

Okay... what the **** just happened? From what I was told, Ross Bagdasarian Jr. and his wife Janice Karman were going to supply the voices of the Chipmunks (Ross doing Alvin and Simon, and Janice doing Theodore like they've been doing for the past three decades), and then all of the sudden Justin Long (whom I'm actually a fan of from Dodgeball) is doing Alvin, Jesse McCartney is doing Theodore, and I don't know who the **** is doing Simon... when did THIS happen? ! WHY? !Corporations controlled choices, that's what happened. 'Tis a sad aspect of Hollywood in this current day and age.

[frogboy4]

Okay... what the **** just happened? From what I was told, Ross Bagdasarian Jr. and his wife Janice Karman were going to supply the voices of the Chipmunks (Ross doing Alvin and Simon, and Janice doing Theodore like they've been doing for the past three decades), and then all of the sudden Justin Long (whom I'm actually a fan of from Dodgeball) is doing Alvin, Jesse McCartney is doing Theodore, and I don't know who the **** is doing Simon... when did THIS happen? ! WHY? !

Why indeed! I enjoy Justin Long, (best known as the cute guy in the Mac commercials) but why recast the voices if they'll just be filtered anyway?
Matthew Gray Gubler (an actor best known as the cute young alterna-nerd in Criminal Minds on CBS) is barely known. And Jesse McCartney (star of long-cancelled Summerland show and teeny-pop star) as Theodore? It just reduces the characters I grew up watching on Saturday mornings. :sympathy:

This will not put me off seeing the film, but I am not happy about it. And just when I was getting excited that Rhythem and Hues of Golden Compass and next year's new Narnia film provided the CG effects. :grouchy:

[D'Snowth]

Why indeed! I enjoy Justin Long, (best known as the cute guy in the Mac commercials) but why recast the voices if they'll just be filtered anyway?
Matthew Gray Gubler (an actor best known as the cute young alterna-nerd in Criminal Minds on CBS) is barely known. And Jesse McCartney (star of long-cancelled Summerland show and teeny-pop star) as Theodore? It just reduces the characters I grew up watching on Saturday mornings. :sympathy:

This will not put me off seeing the film, but I am not happy about it. And just when I was getting excited that Rhythem and Hues of Golden Compass and next year's new Narnia film provided the CG effects. :grouchy:*Blink* Is your username misleading, or are you... um...

Anyway, I agree... they're going to alter the voices anyway, why pay all that extra for A-List celebrities to have their voices changed when they could have Ross and Janice do it themselves like they've been doing?

Also, if the Chipettes are supposedly going to make cameos at the end of this one, or are going to be in a sequel I've heard talks about, does this mean they'll be getting like Evan Rachel Wood, Mischa Barton, and/or Lindsay Lohan to do their voices?

AAARGGGGGGGGGH!

[wwfpooh]

Sadly, our childhood memories are going down the tube and there's not much we could do to stop 'em unless we ourselves get positions of power and don't let get to our heads or if we have enough moolah to persuade those in charge to not alter the main aspect of said childhood memory.

[frogboy4]

*Blink* Is your username misleading, or are you... um...

Anyway, I agree... they're going to alter the voices anyway, why pay all that extra for A-List celebrities to have their voices changed when they could have Ross and Janice do it themselves like they've been doing?

Also, if the Chipettes are supposedly going to make cameos at the end of this one, or are going to be in a sequel I've heard talks about, does this mean they'll be getting like Evan Rachel Wood, Mischa Barton, and/or Lindsay Lohan to do their voices?

AAARGGGGGGGGGH!

:) User name? I'm Frogboy Jamie [insert bad staff picture here] (http://www.muppetcentral.com/help/staff/index.shtml) - the longtime Muppet Central graphics guy (sometimes Palisades figure guy) that kind of took some time off for a while. Or did you mean that "frog" meant I have bulgy eyes and "boy" meant I am much younger? I still get carded when my friends (and even my younger brother) don't. But that's beside the point. Why didn't they just hire the cast of High School Musical while they were at it? Ugh! But I do like Justin Long. I have to say. I'll likely never own a Mac again, but I never mind seeing his ads. ;)

[Drtooth]

You know, I'm still on the fence about this. Part of me wants to actually see this film, but most of me wants to avoid it. Really Disappointed they had to redub over Dave Seville Jr.'s (and Janice Karmine's) voce acting. Pretty sad they had to go the C-list celeb route.

Anyway, fart, poop, and sex jokes aside, I think this will be meh at best. And Curses for not having someone release the Alvin Show on DVD during the film's release. Out of the other Alvin and the Chipmunks cartoons that would have been the easiest one to release (considering the fact the Alvin Show used mostly original songs or public domain stuff).

Plus, I'm bummed there hasn't been a surge of classic A&C merchandise yet. Eiter 50's or 80's style. That's usually the upside to these kinds of films.

[D'Snowth]

I feel the exact same way... in a way, I kind of do want to see it, but for the most part, I want to avoid it.

For the most part, for some reason, I kind of feel Jason Lee is kind of misplaced for the part of Dave Seville, whenever I see these promos, it's almost like it's watching Earl (having shaved off his mustache and cut his hair) yelling at Randy who's pretending to be all three chipmunks.

[wwfpooh]

for some reason, I kind of feel Jason LeeWe all noticed how he muddled up being Underdog, for he is no Wallly Cox...:D

[Teheheman]

The previews don't look TOO bad. I mean, this maybe a DVD rental at best. Although, I've enjoyed Jason Lee on My Name is Earl, so I don't know. I might enjoy it. Not enough to shell out that much money for it. But still, a little bit anyways. I am a little shocked they haven't thought of releasing any Chimpmunks stuff on DVD or anything. I don't think though that this is anything like yo mama's chimpmunks so I don't know.

Daniel

[wwfpooh]

I don't think though that this is anything like yo mama's chimpmunksOur 'munks (http://www.ilovewavs.com/TV/Cartoons/Chipmunks%20-%20Theme.wav) were the originals (albeit redone for the 80's) and don't deserve this travesty, just as Underdog (http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/underdog.mp3), Garfield (http://www.ilovewavs.com/TV/Cartoons/Garfield%20-%20Theme.wav), and others before them! :( Why can't Hollywood leave the classics alone and not turn them into B or C list garbage? :cry:

[Drtooth]

But still, a little bit anyways. I am a little shocked they haven't thought of releasing any Chimpmunks stuff on DVD or anything. I don't think though that this is anything like yo mama's chimpmunks so I don't know.



They released a small amount of 3 episode DVD's, not really coinciding with the film's release. The last one was the disappointing Chipmunks got to the movies, which only had 3 episodes out of 13 in it.

The only other stuff is a Cd soundtrack and video game based off the movie.

That said:

Our 'munks were the originals (albeit redone for the 80's) and don't deserve this travesty, just as Underdog, Garfield, and others before them! Why can't Hollywood leave the classics alone and not turn them into B or C list garbage?


Underdog was a mistake from the get go. At least with Garfield they got a tiny aspect of it right. And I applaud Bill Murray's vocal usage for the Cat. That's the only thing I can applaud, though.

Underdog seemed like they wanted to make a superhero dog movie, and just grabbed a famous name brand to stick to it.

I don't know why Hollywood keeps remaking cartoons, since every single one of them was a flop, except the first Flintstones. Though Popeye is an underappreciated film, IMO.

[wwfpooh]

Though Popeye is an underappreciated film, IMO.

Though that was because that film didn't deviate from the canon of the original franchise and was budgeted with the near flawless cast.

[Drtooth]

Yet, people constantly say how terrible it was. Which disappoints me, because as far as I'm conserned, Robin Williams disappeared into the role, and Shelly Duval is Olive Oyl. And I don't mean in the movie. In real life.

For me, I cannot wait for Speed Racer. I'm going to put it in another thread, but the Matrix Bros really did a service to fans of this franchise by making the film perfectly cast and sticking as close to the source material as possibibble. Even the trailer looked good. Plus I will say, I'm very glad they didn't make the characters speak sped up trying to match the mouths English the dub had.

Though I still worry about the Dragon Ball film...

[wwfpooh]

For me, I cannot wait for Speed Racer.The very fact that Christina Ricci is in it--albeit as Trixie--is part of what brought me towards that film.

[frogboy4]

At least with Garfield they got a tiny aspect of it right. And I applaud Bill Murray's vocal usage for the Cat. That's the only thing I can applaud, though.

I don't know why Hollywood keeps remaking cartoons, since every single one of them was a flop, except the first Flintstones. Though Popeye is an underappreciated film, IMO.

I always enjoyed the CG model of the live action Garfield films. They say it cost 40 million dollars for just the cat! It was a good mix, but if you look carefully at the model there are some issues (geometry, contact, over blurring and obscuring). I just thought the films had no real story, bad writing and nothing new to bring to the character or franchise.

The Chipmunk characters visually look good, there are some cute scenes (and a few unfortunate ones) but ultimately – there’s so little competition this Christmas and unless the little fuzzy guys threaten to kill god or Santa Clause in the film I think it’s going to be a healthy-sized hit. I could be wrong.

I think this will be the beginning of more Chipmunk stuff to come. They’ve already invested in the CG models. Unless the film totally bombs expect more of them. :o

[wwfpooh]

The film should bomb, because not only did it redub voices--which is a character no-no, especially for timeless icons--but it also added in MTV-style humor which was not needed in the slightest. For me, all this film did was show that the 'munks (http://www.ilovewavs.com/TV/Cartoons/Chipmunks%20-%20Theme.wav) should remain in semi-retirement, because this "remake" is a spat on their legacy.

[Drtooth]

I will say, I think that if they Did a Chip N Dale Rescue Rangers film in the exact style they're going for here, it could work. If they stick to the original version.

Mainly because the freaking chipmunks look more like Chip and Dale than Alvin Simon and Theodore.

Of course, had it been up to me, I'd just rerelease the Chipmunks Adventure film. I never seen it.

[frogboy4]

The film should bomb, because not only did it redub voices--which is a character no-no, especially for timeless icons--but it also added in MTV-style humor which was not needed in the slightest. For me, all this film did was show that the 'munks (http://www.ilovewavs.com/TV/Cartoons/Chipmunks%20-%20Theme.wav) should remain in semi-retirement, because this "remake" is a spat on their legacy.

I just don't see it "bombing" but it is a lack-luster period for movies. I'm not going to have a knee-jerk reaction just yet. There are definitely some things that I don't favor, but sometimes films can rise above that. The fact that its very nature of a big screen live action CG film won't please most purists. I'm giving this one a chance.

Slow box office aside, there isn't much family film competition this Christmas season. Enchanted has been out for a while, Bee Movie has faded into oblivion, Golden Compass proved too controversial and is likely soon to be forgotten. This Christmas parents will have the choice Chipmunks or Waterhorse. I think the fuzzy, cuddly will win out. And then there's the new Veggie Tales movie in January (comment on that witheld). I can see Enchanted getting a second wind, but I think this Christmas will belong to Alvin. ;) - For better or for worse.

By the way, the Chipmunk's Adventure film was really good.

[wwfpooh]

Mainly because the freaking chipmunks look more like Chip and Dale than Alvin Simon and Theodore.Ironic, for the pre-Rescue Ranger (http://www.ilovewavs.com/TV/Cartoons/Chip%20'N%20Dale's%20Rescue%20Rangers%20-%20Theme.wav) Chip 'n Dale sounded just like the Chipmunks, as heard here, via the timeless X-mas song, "The Twelve Days of Christmas" (http://www.i-love-wavs.com/ChristmasWavs/The%20Twelve%20Days%20Of%20Christmas%20-%20Disney.wav).

[frogboy4]

Amazon has Alvin and the Chipmunks - The Chipmunk Adventure (http://www.amazon.com/Alvin-Chipmunks-Adventure-Nancy-Cartwright/dp/B000ELJ024/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1197496773&sr=8-1) but only in "full frame" darn inferior Paramount. :smirk:

It is a good film and beautifully animated! I wish more films would look like it. :excited:

[wwfpooh]

It is a good film and beautifully animated! I wish more films would look like it. :excited:It shows real heart and craftsmanship, and so yes, I too would like to see many films look like that film.

[D'Snowth]

Amazon has Alvin and the Chipmunks - The Chipmunk Adventure (http://www.amazon.com/Alvin-Chipmunks-Adventure-Nancy-Cartwright/dp/B000ELJ024/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1197496773&sr=8-1) but only in "full frame" darn inferior Paramount. :smirk: What do you mean "inferior" Paramount? Full screen is what you want, widescreen is the format that sucks! Those black bars are so irritating, plus they're what cut out 25% of your picture, not the sides of your TV. Trust me, I've compared widescreen pictures with full screen pictures... it's basically the full screen picture with a black bar overlapping the top of the picture, and a black bar overlapping the bottom part of the picture.

[wwfpooh]

The movie only disappoints me in that it changes character personalities. The CGI live-action look I could overlook if the characters were accurately portrayed like their original selves, but...Noooo!

They had to make all three of them act like Alvin, and seeing smart Simon act perverted is...*in Red Fraggle voice*...just wrong!

[Teheheman]

Have you seen previews that don't fit the full frame screen? the ones that haven't been formatted for the TV? They have an annoying black box AROUND the thing. It looks smaller. I'd rather have the widescreen myself, but that's just me.

Daniel