Mad Puppets

[wes]

There has been a Debate in the Brock House hold about the way I position the eyes of my puppets, I don't see it But my family alway notices that I make my puppets cross eyed, I think it is very cute and fits the puppet. The other thing is they said it makes the puppet Look Mad, I don't see it.

Tell Me what you think! I want to sell these puppets and if the eye placement is going to stop people from buying I want to know.

Here's the Puppet her name is Jill, http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f299/beltar/DSC00637.jpg

[Lab Rat]

I like the cross eyed look for puppets all of mine are cross eyed to a degree i think they look madder if the arent slightly crossed actually, Jill looks great with those eyes.

[gfarkwort]

yes...the eyes are crosseyed...Personally...I would not buy a crosseyed puppet....because it doesn't focus on anything...and wouldn't be able to at any time...plus it looks like Jill is looking up.....it might fit the character if the character were mildly stupid....because thats what crossed eyes means...not cute or young....

just my feelings.......

[wes]

thanks Keep Um Comming,

By the Way gfarkwort Happy birthday!!:)

[puppetise]

the henson tringle maybey not so crossed eyed but a litttle its a good technique its good for focus

[hennesprod]

I like the designs, but it might bother me if I saw all the characters in a show had this type of eye design.

But over all, I like the design.

Cheers,

William

[tutter_fan]

It makes me laugh when I see a muppet or puppet that's crosseyed! :)

[bezalel]

Jill IS cross-eyed. But that's a style point - cross-eyed kids - right? I like it.

However, you would probably have better success on E-bay with eyes focused like Sophia Maria on your site - eyes veering toward the center but not what one would call "cross-eyed". I think the cross-eyed kids would be great in a video short or video web series where you could really make the style and the characters live, but the general public on E-bay would be a tougher sell. Unfortunately there is a fine line between what's creative, and unique and what sells.

[bezalel]

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[TopperFraggle]

Yes she does look mad, more mad than cross eyed to me. If you really want her cross eyed, but not mad, you can move the pupils down a bit, lower on the eye, but still keep them hugging that inner edge of the eyes. The other option is to change the eyelid so that it's not so close to the pupil. That's the main problem that makes her look mad is that the eyelids are too close to the pupil. It makes you think that her eyelids/brows are drawn down in a frown, when in reality it's the pupil that is up.

The rest of the design looks good so I'd probably buy it and then fix the pupils more to my liking. But I don't know that the average consumer would go to that trouble.

[gfarkwort]

By the Way gfarkwort Happy birthday!!:)

Thanks Wes!

[wes]

Thanks everyone for the input, it helped alot. I have removed her pupils, and i'm goining to move them down and part abit. I cant figure out why i can never tell when the eyes are off I hope i'm not cross eyed:eek: (*checks mirror *whew*no i'm not) thats just one of the tricky things that really make a puppet.

I forgot that I had this Diagram of the Henson Triangle but i'll use it from now on here it is if anyone wants it.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f299/beltar/trianglediagram.jpg

[intozlight]

General rule of thumb is that you want your puppet focused about 16-18 inches in front of face. This will give the puppet a "slightly" cross-eyed look but keeps them from looking like their staring off into space.
Otherwise it is a matter of taste. I did Captain Quirk (http://www.ripplesministry.org/photogallery/blueberry/index.htm) with eyes that could be rotated to be happy or sad and in that case you want to check both positions.

Hope this helps

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Director Davies
Ripples Puppet Ministry (http://www.ripplesministry.org/)
“I do not see the glass as ½ empty, nor do I see the glass as ½ full, I just thank God for the water…

[Melonpool]

I forgot that I had this Diagram of the Henson Triangle but i'll use it from now on here it is if anyone wants it.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f299/beltar/trianglediagram.jpg


I'm curious about this diagram. I'm not sure on what it's supposed to illustrate, since the triangle doesn't seem to match up to any specific points on the face. I always thought that the "Magic Triangle" was the placement of the two pupils and the nose (each one being a point on the triangle). Have I been wrong all this time?

[wes]

Steve,
Thats Just a Diagram I found while surfing one day I fixed her Eyes and i'll have to get the pics on line soon! thanks everyone!!:)