Monsters Eating Fellow Muppets

[Bill Bubble Guy]

Greetings everybody. I was just thinking about the muppet cast and remembered how occasionally a muppet monster would eat another character. It used to scare me when I was a very young child.:eek:
But looking back over it I believe the muppets really were one big happy family at heart made up of talking animals, anthropomorphic humans and monsters. Yes even the monster characters were a part of the family and they really were only having a game when they ate somebody.:smirk:

Think about it, on the season one dvd we saw how Gorgon Heap ate some characters, Miss Piggy, Baskerville, Wayne. But despite being eaten alive they nevertheless lived to appear in further episodes.
And I seem to recall in a season five episode Piggy was eaten again by a different monster, Big Mama. And we saw her actually stick her head out of Mama's mouth and speak to Gonzo. So it seems obvious enough to me that the monsters never hurt anyone at all when they swallowed them.
It's really very funny isn't it?:)

[ReneeLouvier]

Actually, that is kinda funny. :D

[TheJimHensonHour]

I have always loved when the monsters attack or eat some one it just is always so funny to me because I know it's not real and it's very unexpected because one moment they are very polite then the next mmmughhpgh! lol

[tutter_fan]

I agree with you, TheJimHensonHour! I wonder if animal ever ate or attacked anyone! Now that'd be really funny!

[zns]

Of all the special effects I've seen on the Muppets, it's the explosions and characters that get eatten by monsters that are the best. The stuff that Jim came up with was just phenominal. They have a clip montage of some of these moments in The Muppets a Celebration of Thirty Years special, and it's one of the best montages I've ever seen before in my life.:)

[Bill Bubble Guy]

I agree with you, TheJimHensonHour! I wonder if animal ever ate or attacked anyone! Now that'd be really funny!
I doubt he's ever actually eaten anyone tutter fan. But he has attacked Kermit sometimes definitely and an occasional guest star.

[TheJimHensonHour]

I doubt he's ever actually eaten anyone tutter fan. But he has attacked Kermit sometimes definitely and an occasional guest star.
yea and hit on the ladies hehe then they clobber him on the head...I wonder if frank oz ever got hurt during that...

[Sgt Floyd]

yea and hit on the ladies hehe then they clobber him on the head...I wonder if frank oz ever got hurt during that...

I hope not, but it is funny when animal gets whacked on the head:halo:

[TheJimHensonHour]

I hope not, but it is funny when animal gets whacked on the head:halo:
I hope not either and I totally agree :)

[tutter_fan]

Bonk!

[Blue Weirdo]

I doubt he's ever actually eaten anyone tutter fan. But he has attacked Kermit sometimes definitely and an occasional guest star.

Animal started to eat Piggy's dog Foo Foo in the Michelle Pfeiffer episode of Muppets Tonight. Michelle and Piggy were fighting while both trying to do the same scene. Piggy sicked Foo Foo on Michelle so she sicked Animal on Foo Foo. (And thus got Animal to stop chasing her around as well)

Animal: Michelle! Michelle! Michelle!
Michelle: No not me! The dog get the dog!
Animal: Ah! Dog! Dog! Dog! Dinner!

[TheJimHensonHour]

Animal started to eat Piggy's dog Foo Foo in the Michelle Pfeiffer episode of Muppets Tonight. Michelle and Piggy were fighting while both trying to do the same scene. Piggy sicked Foo Foo on Michelle so she sicked Animal on Foo Foo. (And thus got Animal to stop chasing her around as well)

Animal: Michelle! Michelle! Michelle!
Michelle: No not me! The dog get the dog!
Animal: Ah! Dog! Dog! Dog! Dinner!
one of my favorite moments of the show indeed!:excited:

[Bill Bubble Guy]

Animal started to eat Piggy's dog Foo Foo in the Michelle Pfeiffer episode of Muppets Tonight. Michelle and Piggy were fighting while both trying to do the same scene. Piggy sicked Foo Foo on Michelle so she sicked Animal on Foo Foo. (And thus got Animal to stop chasing her around as well)

Animal: Michelle! Michelle! Michelle!
Michelle: No not me! The dog get the dog!
Animal: Ah! Dog! Dog! Dog! Dinner!

Fair enough. But Foo Foo was thrown off the studio floor by Animal and landed over a railing. So he never actually ate the dog in the end.(unless you like to think to yourself that he swallowed Foo Foo completely off camera and then vomited him or her , I'm not sure, up spewing the poor thing over that railing also off camera. );) :crazy:

[Bill Bubble Guy]

I'm bumping this thread up Dave in case you want to look at it next time you're online buddy.

[Gonzo14]

i always liked the scene where Shakey Sanchex got eaten during the Under My Skin Song

[Gorgon Heap]

I wonder what made them eat certain characters and not others.

In "Pigs in Space" on the Carol Burnett episode, watch Big Mama's eyes at the beginning of the sketch. The character looks pleased at the sight of Piggy and displeased at the sight of Link and Strangepork.

In the Sherlock Holmes sketch, Fielding AKA Gorgon ate the maid, Piggy, because her testimony was evidence. It's kinda weird if you think about it, because their characters were co-workers in the Bottomly manor.

On that same sketch, I don't get why he eats Watson/Baskerville- he's already eaten the evidence against himself, he could've just let Watson take the wrap. If you look closely, though, you can see him looking over both Sherlock Holmes/Rowlf and Watson/Baskerville, like he's deciding which of them to eat. I imagine it would've been technically more difficult to have a larger character get eaten as opposed to a small one.

On a side note, that freaked me out when Gorgon ate Baskerville- I always for some reason thought that cute furry animals and mustachioed men were exempt from being eaten. For the longest time I thought that women were exempt too, until I saw the sketches in which Piggy was eaten.

I also wondered why when Gorgon Heap ate Wayne he didn't eat Wanda as well. It could just be her dress, but she looks more plump than Wayne, and I dunno, I figured she'd be more appealing than him. Of course, Wayne's hammy hubris and love of the sound of his own voice probably clouded his awareness of what was going on around him, thus making him easier to catch- notice how he keeps singing even after his head is in Gorgon's mouth. Wanda didn't seem to have quite the ego that Wayne had- just the snobbery. I saw this sketch years ago, in the "Rowlf's Rhapsodies" home video, and thought that maybe the sketch cut before Gorgon ate Wanda. I imagined it going something like this:

Wanda: (crying) "Now I'll never see him again!"
Gorgon: "Oh, no, that can be arranged."
Wanda: "You mean, you can bring him back out?"
Gorgon: "No- put you in! OWM! AWP!"
Wanda: "Aaaaaahhh!!!!"

But no, it just cuts to Vet's Hospital. And it stands to reason that once they used the eating gag in a Wayne & Wanda sketch they couldn't re-use it. Perhaps if they'd lasted longer, i.e. if Eren Ozker hadn't left the show, they would've gotten back around to having a monster eat Wanda.

It's kind of ironic, really, given the fact that she looks like one of those weak, innocent heroines-victims from an early melodrama, the kind of damsel in distress whom Uncle Deadly or others of his ilk would tie to the railroad tracks, dangle from a cliff, or suspend over a pit of crocodiles. They did do this in Season Three, with Deadly, and Wayne, who also fits the prototype of the old melodrama hero, but with Piggy instead of Wanda, playing at least the one sketch off of Piggy's aggressive personality being an ill fit to her part. Perhaps if they had done something like this in late season one. Hmm, that gives me a fanfic idea...

Any comments on the above?

Btw Martin, thanks for the tip-off about your thread.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Bill Bubble Guy]

I can easily agree with your views on Gorgon Heap in season one Dave.
During the panel discussion it seemed like he just wanted to eat everything and everyone he could although Vincent seemed pretty confident that he was exempt unlike Tim Conway in your fan fic. But in his other two appearances he seemed to pick and choose who to eat and who to leave behind. Though when the "corpse" sneezes it seems almost like he was about to pounce on Rowlf but is distracted with amazement

Oh and you're welcome Dave my friend

[Gorgon Heap]

Though when the "corpse" sneezes it seems almost like he was about to pounce on Rowlf but is distracted with amazement

That's what I thought, too. He has his hand on Rowlf's back at that moment, presumably showing him to the door but I don't think butlers lead people to the door bodily, so coupled with what came before, that's what it looks like to me as well.

I have a tough time imagining Rowlf getting eaten, maybe it's b/c of his laid-back, typically unfrazzled character.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Bill Bubble Guy]

I have a tough time imagining Rowlf getting eaten, maybe it's b/c of his laid-back, typically unfrazzled character.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

Rowlf certainly was laid back in that sketch Dave. Even if he had honestly missed observing Piggy's fate he undoubtedly did notice Baskerville's.
Yet Rowlf showed no obvious signs of intimidation thinking that he could possibly be next on the menu

[minor muppetz]

I have always liked the scenes where muppes get eaten by mionsters. For some reason I've never been scared of those moments. Some of my favorite Muppet memories from my childhood are of Behemoth eating Shakey Shanchez while singing Under My Skin (which led me to beleive that you could still be alive if eaten by a monster.... and it kinda made me want to get eaten by Behemoth), Gorgon Heap attempting to eat Kermit, and Gorgon Heap eating Wayne.

[Saironi]

Shakey walks offstage after being eaten, which makes me think Behemoth got tired of his "ham" dinner.

Gorgon actually said "Excuse me, Miss" before crunching down on Piggy, which makes me think he may have shown some regret for what he was about to do. Maybe it was in the script for him to, and just threw in devouring Baskerville as a twist for the plot. He also seemed frightened when Lord Barnabe sneezed and backed away, as if not even HE would go near it. Anyone else see that?

[Saironi]

I also noticed in the end of the Vet's Hospital Skit in "Candice Bergen", Behemoth closes his jaws on Rowlf. Either he wanted to eat Rowlf or is was biting him as payback for hitting his stomach with a mallet. Which seems more likely?

[Bill Bubble Guy]

It's all very interesting to debate Saironi. The Sherlock Holmes sketch may have been scripted but the panel discussion in Vincent Price and Wayne and Wanda in Avery Screiber seem more like different ball games.

And whatever you make of Behemoth and Rowlf in that Vet's Hospital Kermit was obviously eaten off camera by Behemoth as part of the gag for his "frog in the throat":crazy:
Obviously Kermit didn't know they'd planned it though because he's very angry when he pokes his head out saying "Very funny. Just see if this dumb doctor sketch is ever featured on the show again":mad: Froggie didn't like being eaten for a sketch joke:D

[minor muppetz]

Obviously Kermit didn't know they'd planned it though because he's very angry when he pokes his head out saying "Very funny. Just see if this dumb doctor sketch is ever featured on the show again":mad: Froggie didn't like being eaten for a sketch joke:D

I wonder if Kermit was hurt very badly when Dr. Bob hit behemoth in the stomache with a hammer (assuming Kermit did feel it).

It would be weird if Miss Piggy let them allow Behemoth eat Kermit for the sketch in that episode, considering that in the next backstage scene she came to kermit's defense and karate chopped Fozzie for dumping flower on kermit.

[Saironi]

[quote=minor muppetz

It would be weird if Miss Piggy let them allow Behemoth eat Kermit for the sketch in that episode, considering that in the next backstage scene she came to kermit's defense and karate chopped Fozzie for dumping flower on kermit.[/quote]Of course. Behemoth is a monster, and Piggy seemed scared during the Sherlock sketch, maybe knowing what would happen to her character.

[Saironi]

I think Piggy was a bit mortified when Kermit popped up because as the ending music plays, she covers her eyes and shakes her head. Maybe she was ashamed she'd let it happen to her love.

Also, she doesn't seem comfortable around monsters;

In the Sherlock sketch, she looks over her shoulder at Gorgan as if he may sneak up on her and was trembling during the whole sketch until she got eaten.

Then in Candice Bergan, she gets chased around by Monster Whatnots that seem like they want to either kill her or eat her.

Can you blame her for letting Behemoth have his own way?

[Bill Bubble Guy]

So is that why Rowlf was so cool and calm all the time? Because he knew that unlike Piggy and Baskerville his character would not be swallowed?


BTW Saironi if you check out minor muppetz TMS fan fic outlines one of them I think it guest stara Bill Daly has Piggy karate chop Gorgon and some other monsters for being pests. Then when Gorgon eats her after being chopped she chops him again from the inside. LOL

[Saironi]

So is that why Rowlf was so cool and calm all the time? Because he knew that unlike Piggy and Baskerville his character would not be swallowed?


I don't think he was calm all the time; he does a double take when Baskerville gets grabbed and his jaw trembles while Gorgon's chewing his lil buddy up.

Gorgon Heap: Mm. Tough.
Rowlf: Hmm....

[Bill Bubble Guy]

True but he certainly didn't allow himself to panic up so to speak. He did retain his outer composure

[ReneeLouvier]

Wow, never actually thought of those skits in that light. Cool.

I always thought it was out-of-character for Piggy to act so scared in that Sherlock Holmes sketch. But as you've all said in one way or another, perhaps she truely WAS scared!

[Saironi]

Wow, never actually thought of those skits in that light. Cool.

I always thought it was out-of-character for Piggy to act so scared in that Sherlock Holmes sketch. But as you've all said in one way or another, perhaps she truely WAS scared!*nods* That brings me to another point;

Shakey is shaking on the wall before Behemoth devours him, just gapes at Kermit when he tells him to calm down and appears again with a nervous tick. I think something came unhinged mentally, because he didn't seem that...well, shakey when he performed with Avery 3 episodes before. He was acting as if he couldn't believe Kermit had set him up like that.

[minor muppetz]

I noticed that Miss Piggy seemed really defenseless in the Sherlock Holmes sketch, and then I was reading this thread, and soemthing occurred to me. It seems like Miss Piggy's personality wasn't developed much in the first three episodes. Of course, the writers didn;t plan on having her be a main character untill after the Temptation number, but even then it seems like they didn't develope her personality much untill the fourth episode (even though there was a production break for a few months between the secodn and third episodes).

For the first three episodes, Miss Piggy usually had scenes in At The Dance, but so did many other characters, both major and minor. In the Temptation number, it seems like she had only slightly more personality than the other Glee Club singers. In the Sherlock Holmes sketch, she basically just stands there and doesn't really do much acting. In that same episode, she appears backstage with the other characters who complain to Kermit about Fozzie practicing for his act, but her lines could have been given to almost any character, with the exceptions of Gonzo, Crazy Harry, and possibly Scooter. Her lines could have easily been given to Rowlf, Sam the Eagle, Wayne, Wanda, The Newsman, or Mildred, for example. In the second episode, she karate chops Kermit backstage, but many fans think that scene was filmed later, after her personality was more established.

I think that if the Sherlock Holmes sketch was put in a later episode instead, the maid would have probably been portrayed by someone else, like Hilda, Wanda, or Annie Sue Pig.

I also thought it was weird in the Sherlock Holmes sketch that after Gorgon heap ate all of the evidence, Rowlf instantly assumed that Baskerville was the mruderer, but after baskerville got eaten, Rowlf just thought there was no murder, rather than saying that he mut have been the murderer (though he probably wouldn't admit that), or even assumed that there was a murderer but not in the room. Of course, Rowlf, as Sherlock, might have decided for his own safety to assume there was no murder just so he wouldn't get eaten.

[Bill Bubble Guy]

I wonder what Gorgan Heap as in our forum buddy Dave will say to all this discussion whenever he sees it?

[Saironi]

In that same episode, she appears backstage with the other characters who complain to Kermit about Fozzie practicing for his act, but her lines could have been given to almost any character, with the exceptions of Gonzo, Crazy Harry, and possibly Scooter. Her lines could have easily been given to Rowlf, Sam the Eagle, Wayne, Wanda, The Newsman, or Mildred, for example.

Actually, Mildred never appeared backstage, I don't think Gonzo would have cared (since he was basically being a pest himself in episode 2), the Newsman was always performed by Jim, Wayne and Wanda never made important roles on the show, and Scooter doesn't seem to annoy easily.

[minor muppetz]

Actually, Mildred never appeared backstage, I don't think Gonzo would have cared (since he was basically being a pest himself in episode 2), the Newsman was always performed by Jim, Wayne and Wanda never made important roles on the show, and Scooter doesn't seem to annoy easily.

No, Mildred never did appear backstage, but I don't think there was any rule stating that she couldn't have ever appeared backstage (most of Jim henson's non-Kermit characters didn't appear backstage much untill the second season).

While The Newsman was performed by Jim Henson, who was performing Kermit in the same scene, you've got to remember that in that scene Frank Oz performed the voices for both Fozzie and George, so it's not like Jim wouldn't have dubbed The Newsmans voice (or Rowlf's voice). Frank Oz performing two character voices in that scene is also my reason for listing Sam the Eagle as a character who could have been annoyed.

While Wayne and Wanda never made important roles on the show, they did appear backstage every once in awhile, even if it was just in the background.

And the reasosn you mentioned for Gonzo and Scooter not being in that scene are the exact reasons I had for listing them as the main exceptiosn of characters who could have had Miss Piggy's lines. Scooter did occassionally get annoyed, but he never seemed to be annoyed by Fozzie, and even encouraged him. It seems like he actually annoyed Fozzie at times instead.

Nigel is another character who could have been there instead of Miss Piggy.

[Skekayuk]

IAlso, she doesn't seem comfortable around monsters;

Not always.
In the Carol Burnett episode wasn't she the one who brought an alien (played by Big Mamma) onboard the Swinetreck?

[minor muppetz]

In the Carol Burnett episode wasn't she the one who brought an alien (played by Big Mamma) onboard the Swinetreck?

I don't recall there being any mention of who brought the monster onboard, nor do I remember seeing Mean Mama appear backstage coming on-stage.

[Blue Weirdo]

Not always.
In the Carol Burnett episode wasn't she the one who brought an alien (played by Big Mamma) onboard the Swinetreck?

The announcer said that the Swinetrek had picked up a wierd alien creature, didn't say who specifically brought it aboard.

Besides when Mama grabbed her and started dancing at first she was clearly not comfortable. And on that note she seemed surprised when it ate her, as though it was not a planned part of the skit.

[Saironi]

The announcer said that the Swinetrek had picked up a wierd alien creature, didn't say who specifically brought it aboard.

Besides when Mama grabbed her and started dancing at first she was clearly not comfortable. And on that note she seemed surprised when it ate her, as though it was not a planned part of the skit.And didn't anyone notice that Big Mama look like she was uncomfortable and going to be sick when Piggy started dancing in her? I think she was starting to regret eating her.

Though Big Mama certainly seems like a nasty attack dog, eating John Cleese's agent, though thankfully no one else in the series.

[Blue Weirdo]

And didn't anyone notice that Big Mama look like she was uncomfortable and going to be sick when Piggy started dancing in her? I think she was starting to regret eating her.

"Tune in next week for Indigestion in Spaaaccce!"

[Gorgon Heap]

In the second episode, she karate chops Kermit backstage, but many fans think that scene was filmed later, after her personality was more established.

It was. There were three different Piggys in S1- the first in the Juliet Prowse episode, second from the Joel Grey through Candice Bergen episodes, and third from the Avery Schreiber through Mummenschanz episodes plus that one re-taped scene. The differences in the two puppets is subtle, but it's there.

I think that if the Sherlock Holmes sketch was put in a later episode instead, the maid would have probably been portrayed by someone else, like Hilda, Wanda, or Annie Sue Pig.

Agreed. Wanda in particular fits the guise of the so-called 'helpless female' although she wasn't a character player. But, neither was Wayne until Season Three. Although, if you look closely, I think that's the Wayne puppet as the corpse in the Sherlock Holmes sketch- note the hair and the striped suit.

Anyone have any comments on the Wayne & Wanda sketch from the Avery Schreiber episode? A couple of things about that sketch always bothered me:

1) Gorgon's shoulder is visible just as Wayne sings the word 'stranger', but if Gorgon was acting on the instruction "you may eat a stranger", wouldn't he not arrive onstage until a few seconds AFTER this phrase, given that he'd first have to hear the supposed instruction and THEN put the idea together and THEN act on it? I had a theory that he maybe kinda half knew the lyrics, that he knew the word 'stranger' was coming up but didn't know that the word 'eat' was in there (which it isn't).

2) if he ate a stranger but picked Wayne instead of Wanda, does that mean Wanda wasn't a stranger, that Gorgon knew her? I would find that unlikely, since she's clearly mortified and neither Wayne nor Wanda associated with weirdos and riff-raff by choice. Or maybe Gorgon just didn't see her from offstage?

3) does this mean Gorgon Heap is hard of hearing and needs to wear a hearing aid? Funnily enough, Gorgon Heap is my screen name and I used to wear a hearing aid.

Thoughts?

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Bill Bubble Guy]

The only thought I can think of is that interestingly as far as the song itself is concerned every version I recall hearing has the lyrics Some enchanted evening you may see a stranger. Even Bert sings the word see to Connie Stevens in episode 2.
It seems they obviously changed see to meet just for the Wayne and Wanda gag so if Wayne had only sung the correct lyric there would have been no misunderstanding? I say ? because Gorgon probably may not have been trustworthy anyway if he really had his heart set on eating Wayne.

And LOL Bert may have never known the close call he'd had if he'd sung meet instead of see. Heh-heh

[Saironi]

Have any of you considered he just didn't think Wanda was worth eating? When Wanda tells him the right word and starts crying, Gotgon just gives a "sarcastic" apology and turns away, as if she isn't worth his time of day.

[Gorgon Heap]

I think I'm the only one who broached the question.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[minor muppetz]

Agreed. Wanda in particular fits the guise of the so-called 'helpless female' although she wasn't a character player. But, neither was Wayne until Season Three. Although, if you look closely, I think that's the Wayne puppet as the corpse in the Sherlock Holmes sketch- note the hair and the striped suit.[

Yeah, I only listed Hilda as a character who could have been in that skit because she was a wardrobe lady and I kinda think someone with that job would fit the role of a made perfectly. Also, she didn't do much on-stage, so if she acted as badly as Miss Piggy did in that sketch it would possibly make more sense.

if he ate a stranger but picked Wayne instead of Wanda, does that mean Wanda wasn't a stranger, that Gorgon knew her? I would find that unlikely, since she's clearly mortified and neither Wayne nor Wanda associated with weirdos and riff-raff by choice. Or maybe Gorgon just didn't see her from offstage?

Maybe he realized his mistake after Wanda told him that Wayne said "Meet" and not "eat" and therefore didn't eat Wanda.

does this mean Gorgon Heap is hard of hearing and needs to wear a hearing aid? Funnily enough, Gorgon Heap is my screen name and I used to wear a hearing aid.


Maybe Gorgon Heap should have kept his ears from the Joel Grey episode. Oddly enough, he seems to have constantly swithced between having horns and not having horns.

[Gorgon Heap]

Another thing that's odd is that Gorgon Heap rarely omits a possible snack. In the Sherlock Holmes sketch, he eats Piggy, then looks over Rowlf & Baskerville and eats Baskerville. In the Vincent Price panel sketch, he eats Pierre and then tries to eat Kermit. In the Wayne & Wanda sketch, he eats Wayne but doesn't really even LOOK at Wanda. Seems inconsistent with the character not to even consider eating her. Could he have found her that repulsive? (Personally I don't see it.) Or, is one human enough to appease his appetite, or at least enough to keep him from going back for another human? Remember, after eating Pierre, Gorgon went after Kermit, and in the Sherlock Holmes sketch, he ate a pig and a dog.

Of course, the actual logic is much simpler. The writers wanted to use the eating gag in a W&W sketch, "Some Enchanted Evening" sufficed, "Some Enchanted Evening" is (every time I've heard it, anyway) a male-sung tune, ergo Wayne would sing it and get eaten in the process (it would make less sense for Gorgon to eat Wanda at this point and for Wayne to restate what he himself sung), and the point of a W&W sketch is to do the gag and then end the sketch, so after Wayne was eaten and the joke explained, there was no point in prolonging the joke, so the sketch ended.

Just for fun tho, on my 'hypothesis' that Wayne was a stranger and Wanda wasn't, that would seem to indicate something totally bizarre. Most times when someone knows half of a couple, it's b/c they knew them before said couple was a couple. Did Wanda date Gorgon Heap? Is that why he ate Wayne, to eliminate his rival and either win her back or punish her for jilting him at the altar? But, of course, this is too silly an idea for even the Muppets.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Bill Bubble Guy]

Of course, the actual logic is much simpler. The writers wanted to use the eating gag in a W&W sketch, "Some Enchanted Evening" sufficed, "Some Enchanted Evening" is (every time I've heard it, anyway) a male-sung tune, ergo Wayne would sing it and get eaten in the process (it would make less sense for Gorgon to eat Wanda at this point and for Wayne to restate what he himself sung), and the point of a W&W sketch is to do the gag and then end the sketch, so after Wayne was eaten and the joke explained, there was no point in prolonging the joke, so the sketch ended.

True Dave. Although the way you imagined Wanda being eaten afterwards could have been very funny as a one-off prolonged WandW gag:D



Just for fun tho, on my 'hypothesis' that Wayne was a stranger and Wanda wasn't, that would seem to indicate something totally bizarre. Most times when someone knows half of a couple, it's b/c they knew them before said couple was a couple. Did Wanda date Gorgon Heap? Is that why he ate Wayne, to eliminate his rival and either win her back or punish her for jilting him at the altar? But, of course, this is too silly an idea for even the Muppets.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

Silly yes but a bit of a lark Dave:crazy: ;)

[Bill Bubble Guy]

This is another of the threads I love so much.
It's about time I bumped it up to see if the newer members add any more comment to it.

[The Flying Sheep]

Has anyone noticed that in the Sherlock Homes sketch, Piggy's lipsynch is really off? Frank is voicing both Piggy and Gorgon Heap in the scene, for some reason (none of Richard's characters are in the scene, so why couldn't he have performed Piggy?) and whoever is doing the actualy pupptry on Piggy is doing a really bad synching to Frank's voice.

[Saironi]

Has anyone noticed that in the Sherlock Homes sketch, Piggy's lipsynch is really off? Frank is voicing both Piggy and Gorgon Heap in the scene, for some reason (none of Richard's characters are in the scene, so why couldn't he have performed Piggy?) and whoever is doing the actualy pupptry on Piggy is doing a really bad synching to Frank's voice.She's also shaking, so maybe the bad synching can be seen has her jaw trembling?

Also, Gorgon doesn't move until Rowlf thinks he is the victim. So either could have been performed by someone else at different times.

[Jonathan]

Who is the Guest star in the some enchanted eveaning number?

[Gorgon Heap]

See, I kinda thought that someone else did the puppeteering and voice, and then Frank's voice was looped over it later, taking the old one out. Was that ever done?

And Jonathan, while he wasn't in the "Some Enchanted Evening" number, the guest star was Avery Schreiber.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Gorgon Heap]

Realized a little while back that the scream when Piggy gets eaten in the Sherlock Holmes sketch doesn't sound like Frank, but rather it sounds like Eren Ozker. Perhaps she was performing the character the whole time and they just looped Frank over it? Seems like they did the same thing for Piggy in the spoken part of the "Temptation" number in the first episode.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole