View Full Version : Are the muppet movies rereleases worth getting?
janicegroupie
12-02-2005, 09:55 PM
I have been debating whether or not I should buy the rereleses of the 4 muppet movies. I already own the first dvd releases of the movies and I was originally going to buy these ones too in hopes of more great special features but looking at the back of the cases they don't seem to be anything special. Those of you that own these new dvds are they worth buying if you already own the movies?
GelflingWaldo
12-02-2005, 10:20 PM
For me, no. No they are not worth the money. I may pick up MCC and MTI just to have widescreen (but I can survive for now, if it save me $20+ in the long-run).
If you own the original releases on DVD already, then here is my advice to you. First ask yourself these four questions:
1) Is having the theatrical cut of “The Muppet Christmas Carol” in widescreen worth the cost of the disc? If not don’t buy the re-release of MCC.
2) Is having a widescreen version of “Muppet Treasure Island” worth the cost of the disc? If not don’t buy the re-release of MTI.
3) Is it worth the cost of the disc to get a 5-minute Pepe profile? If not don’t buy the re-releases.
4) Is it worth loosing the “Jim Frawley Camera Tests”, the “Making of The Muppet Christmas Carol”, the “Making of Muppet Treasure Island”, the “Treasure Island Hidden-Treasure Audio Commentary”, and the “Treasure Island Sing-along”? If not, don’t get rid of your old DVDs.
However, whether you buy these discs or not - we need to tell Disney how we feel. We need to tell them that the reason we didn’t buy is not because we don’t like the Muppets, it is because we don’t like this DVD treatment (and if you did buy them still tell them you’re not happy). So short of sounding like a broken record, I would say that sometime between now and New-Years we all should take some time and send a letter (or two) to Disney saying that you we want these films to get a better DVD treatment. Basically tell them you want better re-releases in the future (and sooner rather than later). I've talked with the companies and letters actually do work with this kind of situation. They can help and can make all the difference. Let Disney know you want better DVDs. 3-4 sentences will do the trick. You don't need to give specific details of disc features (actually getting too specific with a “dream product” will turn them off from listening) and don’t ramble on for pages and pages about the philosophy of what makes a good DVD. Just say you saw these releases and want more in-depth 2-disc collector's editions of the Muppet films (loaded with related goodies and behind the scenes stuff). Tell them you do not want bare-bone discs, you want a proper treatment. Tell them that you will buy such a product, and say you are not happy with these bland discs that are out now. That way, Disney will know what to do in the future to make people happier. If they feel enough people want them (and thus will make them money) they will do it - history shows it. Maybe 3-5 years down the line we’ll get totally awesome collector’s editions of the films (Disney is known for release a bare-bone disc, and then based on feedback and demand produce a better product later one ). Let them know that you want better dvdS. If we don’t tell them they won’t know (otherwise they will think either we’re happy with this kind of treatment and that’s why the DVDs sold, or they’ll think the reason they didn’t sell because no one really likes the Muppets that much – we need to tell them we love the Muppets and want better DVDs.)
Kimp the Shrimp
12-03-2005, 12:16 AM
they dom't care we are a small group they are targeting parents rembering this and buying for thier kids
minor muppetz
12-03-2005, 09:58 PM
You may also want to ask yourself "is it worth losing the Muppetisms?", though I guess those aren't too big of a deal. I think all of the Muppetisms are available as bonus videos (when you unlock games) in the game Muppet Party Cruise, and the muppetisms can also be found on the Best of The Muppet Show DVDs.
janicegroupie
12-05-2005, 06:48 PM
Judging by the lack of special features and what everybody's saying I'm thinking I probably won't get them. It just doesn't seem worth buying movies I already own when mine are in good working condition and have better features than the new ones. I already bought MCC but have not opened it so I'll probably return it. I don't know if watching it widescreen is worth a whole new copy.
minor muppetz
12-06-2005, 09:39 AM
If you really want to see the Pepe's Profiles, maybe you could see if a local video store or library has them and rent them.
Kimp the Shrimp
12-06-2005, 01:30 PM
thats a good idea minor muppetz
AlienGonzo
12-06-2005, 07:55 PM
I just ended up getting Muppet caper :) :mad:
I was looking so forward to getting TMM and MCC, but after seeing how Disney released them in their special anniversary “treatment” they were given, I won’t pick them up and I don't even own previous releases. To treat the release the way they did, especially TMM with it being a so called special edition and anniversary on top of that, its just not justifiable. I REALLY hope we see better edition, especially with TMM. Please Disney, don’t take forever on this.
At least we’re getting good season sets of the TMS!!! Even if they are a bit cut up…
janicegroupie
12-06-2005, 08:11 PM
If you really want to see the Pepe's Profiles, maybe you could see if a local video store or library has them and rent them.
That's very true. If it's from the library I could see them for free.
I will probably get a new copy of The Muppet Movie because I lost mine. I have the case, but no disc. I have never had GMC on DVD before (only taped off Disney Channel years ago and the quality is awful), so I will want that too. I would also like the MCC too because I only have it on VHS which doesn't have the special features. So I will be getting these at some point whether they have new bonus features or not.
MrsPepper
12-06-2005, 08:27 PM
They are worth getting if, like me, you didn't own any of these already. (well, MTI not included)
Can someone tell me how MTI looks in widescreen. Is it nice? I've already got it on tape, and a fullscreen DVD, so I'm waiting a while to pick this one up. The other's I've already got (finally!! I seriously don't care about special features, I just want the movies).
a_Mickey_Muppet
12-06-2005, 09:46 PM
That's very true. If it's from the library I could see them for free.
I see my library just got the NEW Disney MCC dvd and old MTI dvd along with the NEW HIT! Emmet dvd. :)
MuppetCrazy
12-07-2005, 01:56 PM
To be honest with you, no....it's not worth it. The special features really aren't that "special" at all.
I am really disappointed with how Disney has proceeded with Kermit's 50th Anniversary celebration. Heck, they still haven't even updated Kermit's World Tour section on muppets.com.
I just really don't know, I love the Muppets, and I love the new amount of exposure they are getting, but I just really don't know!
rexcrk
12-07-2005, 02:55 PM
I will definitely be buying Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island for widescreen. The other two I don't know about. While I do wanna see Pepe's Profiles, we're buying TMM and GMC for my grandpa so I can just watch his.
cabbageheat
12-08-2005, 10:09 AM
These new releases are more like bare-bones releases of Henson's films. There is really nothing to speak of, as far as quality. Not a single special feature. and the whole peppe or whatever that guy is, giving us a quick 10 minute homage was cheaply done, and barely worth the time to watch it. It was just a stuffer to have "something" besides the movie.
I know a lot of people will disagree, but nevertheless, where was Frank Oz? why could they not have gotten him on to do a commentary track, or any other cast member?? Where were these guys for the 50th anniversary edition? geeze, does anyone even care anymore??? It's one of the things I was upset about with The Dark Crystal release, they've treated it great, but I really would have loved to have seen someone give a commentary, to give us some insight, since we no longer have Jim.
In my opinion, they blew it. Nice packing I guess, good animated menus, an ok transfer of an already aging film. But certainly. . .certainly not worth of this so called "50th anniversary edition". Disney does some things well, but apparently honoring a legacy is something they're not very good at it.
a_Mickey_Muppet
12-08-2005, 10:47 AM
The radio, it plays christmas song 24/7 til Dec 26th. Anyways The guy was taking about somthin about Giveaways and I heard him say "Next we're playing Jonh Denver and the Muppets 12 days of christmas" and then he sayed somthin else and then sayed "We are also giving away the newly released 4 Muppet Movies on Disney dvd, curtisie of Buena Vista Home Entertainment. call 818-3" somthing, somthin he sayd. You have to be caller # 10. Its good the Muppets are getting exposure like this! :) I would have called but I already bought all four of mine! :D
ravagefrackle
12-09-2005, 07:17 PM
here are a couple of reviews for the new realeases, not to postive, but you can all make your own judgements on that
http://dvd.monstersandcritics.com/reviews/article_10553.php/DVD_Review_The_Muppet_Movie_Kermit%92s_50%92th_Ann iversary_Edition
and http://dvd.monstersandcritics.com/reviews/article_10554.php/DVD_Review_The_Great_Muppet_Caper_Kermit%92s_50%92 th_Anniversary_Edition
AlienGonzo
12-09-2005, 08:07 PM
The radio, it plays christmas song 24/7 til Dec 26th. Anyways The guy was taking about somthin about Giveaways and I heard him say "Next we're playing Jonh Denver and the Muppets 12 days of christmas" and then he sayed somthin else and then sayed "We are also giving away the newly released 4 Muppet Movies on Disney dvd, curtisie of Buena Vista Home Entertainment. call 818-3" somthing, somthin he sayd. You have to be caller # 10. Its good the Muppets are getting exposure like this! :) I would have called but I already bought all four of mine! :D
Yea, they've been doing the same thing here and have been having Muppet dvd contest things where you call in for Kermits 50th.. maybe its the same station..ezrock? I know NY and Toronto share some stations.
Erine81981
12-09-2005, 09:00 PM
I bought them because I didn't get the older version of the DVD back then. I do have the vhs version of the old case not the newer cartoony look. I'm getting all the old stuff on all the old vhs as much as I can.
muppetsforlife
12-14-2005, 03:34 PM
I already bought the Treasure Island new edition and will probably get the others as well. The ONLY reason that I got them is for the sake of having them in my collection. The older versions are way better with more extras. If you like extras and bonus material I would recommend searching for one of the discontined copies. They are much better than the so called new and improved 50th anniversary edition. Like I said, I will by them just to have them in the collection. But i'm very disappointed with Disney's effort here. And I have been one of the few who have tried to give Disney the benefit of the doubt. Very disappointing!
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