Fraggle Rock film in development

[King Prawn]

Thanks Greg for the best news ever, I've never felt so excited for any production as i do for this

http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2005/092005.shtml :excited:

[Beauregard]

Wow! Wow! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!

[Frogster]

You know what's really weird about this? I JUST got done watching "Honk Of Honks" and "Change Of Address." I don't know why, I just felt like watching them. Then, as soon as the ending gets over with, I hopped over here to see what's new, and of all things, this shows up. I can't tell you how excited I am for this, and I hope the original five are in this, as well, and that they don't mess this up like other projects.

[Beauregard]

Gobo and Red HAVE to get together in this!!!!

[Frogster]

This is Fraggle Rock... no one should "get together." They're all friends, and I hope they keep it like that.

[FISH'N'WOLFE]

This is really swell, I hope it gets released theatrically.

[MrsPepper]

Oh.

My.

Gosh.

That is AMAZING! Wow! How COOl would that be! The only downside: If it's a theatrical release I'll be in a theatre with a bunch of little kids. :D But I can put up with that cause if this goes through, that would be SO cool.

[Sylinde Bren]

Fantastic news! It all feels like one huge revival of my childhood, and I can't be more happy about it. :)

[GelflingWaldo]

If it's a theatrical release I'll be in a theatre with a bunch of little kids.Go to like an 10:30pm screening on a Tuesday night - not many kids come out to that showing. Or go to a 1:30pm screening on a Wednesday. I found that if you want to see a "kids" movie kid-free go during the day on a weekday (they're all in school/preschool, their parents are working, or they are taking a nap); or go late at night (after their bedtime). Never go to a kids movie on a Saturday, Sunday, or Friday evening - its all kids! Most theaters show the "kids" movies at some times when there arn't many kids around. I see almost all "kids" films at 10-11 o'clock at night - it's just easier that way (and I can hear what Shrek is saying ;) )

[Kimp the Shrimp]

first Great news i am so exicted lets get Boober and Mokey to Hook up lol

no but seriously i always feel werid when i go see like winnie the pooh or something by myself so i always had a little coiusn go but know they are too old and too cool for it and my niece is only 2 so and lives away i need to have myyh own kid wheres my wife this is a great reason to have a kid BRB

[GelflingWaldo]

I hope the original five are in thisHenson said in one new report, that the project will find the Fraggles having to come out into “outer space” (a.k.a. the human world). The group will have a wild adventure as they find themselves in this weird and wild new world, far away from Fraggle Rock. Henson has also stressed that the story will be aimed at both children and young adults (as they hope to appeal to new young fans, and also the fans that grew up on the show). They also stated that the original Fraggle characters are planned to be the stars of the film (however this could change). The early work on developing the project is underway within the Henson Company and they hope to start shooting sometime next year (2006).

[MrsPepper]

Oh, really, that's a possibility? I like the idea. :D

As for the going to the movie at night, I think I'll have to end up doing that. ;) Thanks because that was a good suggestion. I would want to go to the movie and be able to fully enjoy it!

[Xela]

I'm so excited!
But I don't want to wait until 2007...or longer. :concern:

Oh well, either way, it's great! :excited:

[BooberFraggless]

Wow! I can't believe theyr'e doing this! I feel like I'm dreaming. April Fools Day isn't for another 6 months so I know this is NOT a joke. I am so excited a Fraggle Movie is going to be made. It's about time they did something like this. Just one question. Since Richard Hunt is no longer with us, who will perform Junior Gorg? Any ideas???

[goshposh]

since jerry nelson is pretty much retired, who will play gobo and king gorg or the trash heap!

[GelflingWaldo]

since jerry nelson is pretty much retired, who will play gobo and king gorg or the trash heap!Jerry Nelson has retired from doing The Muppets. He still does Sesame Street, and given the amount of passion the cast has for the show, I would think he would want to do the fim. He still does puppeteering, but the large work load the Disney was looking at for the Muppets caused him to decide to step back sooner (rather than be forced to later). He would still do this film; and even if he didn't puppeteer, which I'm sure he would, he could still loop the lines. Jerry Nelson could still play Gobo.

Steve (Wembly), and Dave (Boober/Uncle Matt) are still very active puppeteers and I think getting them would be no problem. Karen (Red) is also very excited to do anythign Fraggle related and I'm sure she would jump at the chance to play Red again. Kathy (Mokey) is off doing other puppeteering and producing projects last I heard, but I'm sure that for a film like this they would be able to get her for the film if they tried.

I don't know if Doc will be in the film. Gerry Parks is still around but given the Doc storyline on the show, the international co-production diffrent character, and the fact that he's older now, I don't know if his character will be in the film. The Gorgs are also tricky. Richard (Junior Gorg) passed away, so if the Gorgs are in the film his character would need replacement. Same with Grunge.

Given the story line of the Fraggles leaving Fraggle Rock and going into outter space, I don't know how much the Gorgs, Trashheap, Philo/Grunge, and Doozers will be shown. At this point no cast has been announced. But I'm sure that if they try hard enough they can get all 5 Fraggle performers back together for the film. Still we'll have to wait for the official announcement to know for sure.

[EleganceLiberty]

I'm sorry, but I have to quote Blackadder here:

OH GOD, NO!!!!

[wembleyfraggle]

I am SOOOO excited, like for updates and pictures and stuff! Its SOOOOOOO Awsome! I hope its like the Fraggle have to go to the Trasheap when they find out they have to go to Outer Space, than at least we can get her and Philo and Gunge and Madam Heap, and of corse we could get the Gorgs as they have to cross the Gorgs Garden. I hope we can get as many Fraggle Characters as possable when they are in Fraggle Rock, and I hope they have the Music!!! :excited:

[Ozzel]

This could be great. I want to be optimistic. But I just can't help but think that "appealing to a young adult audince" might mean references to pornography and jokes about the Muppets' sexual activity that seem to be all the rage with the Muppets in recent years. I would hope they wouldn't sink that low with the Fraggles, but then, I never thought it would happen with the Muppets either.

[AbnormalExpert]

:excited: I can not contain my excitement!!!! This is like a dream come true! I only hope that they keep the same magic alive....

[redBoobergurl]

Wow, this has been a great week of news for Fraggle fans! First, we're getting our Mokey and second a new movie!!! I hope that it will be well done, but I will see it no matter what! I'm excited!

[ftnpro]

I think Fraggle Rock is the best thing the Muppets have ever done, but this Fraggle movie worries me. The TV show happened at a perfect moment when everything was in place: great writers, songwriters and performers came together, and Jim Henson was around to guide things in the right direction. Without Jim Henson, Richard Hunt, and many others in the mix, who's going to guide this project?

Apparently, the Henson company's plan for making money is to do a sequel to each of Jim Henson's '80s projects, like the Fraggles and Dark Crystal. The great thing about puppets is that they don't look 20 years older when you dust them off for a new movie. But the perfect moment of Fraggle Rock was a long time ago.

Of course, if they manage to do a good job on the Fraggle movie... I'll be thrilled!

[a_Mickey_Muppet]

hey gang,

OMG WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! in the words of Gonzo: "This is so cool" :) :excited: Great news! :excited:

[Erine81981]

I can't wait. I'm going to explode with candy and strimmers and confetii all around. I would love to see this and if it happens I hope by that time I'll have a girlfriend and she can come and see it with me hoping she don't freak out becasue we're seeing a kids movie but with time maybe I'll find the right one. Come on Fraggle Five and get this done so we can see it SOON! :excited: :smirk:


(PS they better have some good new and old songs in this movie and I want them to do some cool merindice for this movie too)

[luvtosr]

If they do a proper job on it then YAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

And I do wonder, will they bother going to the trouble of making the different versions as they did with the show?

[Allahandria]

Well, I think this project is awesome for a number of reasons.

1. It probably secures us at least a Season 2 and maybe 3 DVD release. With an upcoming movie I'm sure that Hit will want to profit from it.

2. New fraggle film time!

3. New Fraggle STUFF!

I don't think that the sexuality thing will really be an issue. The muppets ALWAYS made sort of dirty jokes (you have seen the muppet show, right?) They weren't very strong dirty jokes, but for the 70s and 80s and for the fact that they were puppets they were still vaguely adult.

It's hard to gauge how far is too far today. I think that the muppet writers are trying to push the envelope about as far as they used to, but really how far is that in the day of Sex and the City anyway? (not that I don't like the show, cause I do, but it's a fair example of what people are willing to put up with so long as there are good stories too.)

The Fraggles never really did that. The Fraggles didn't have dirty jokes to begin with. They did "push the envelope" in other ways, like using big words and openly discussing death, disease, and some philosophical issues.

Providing this isn't just one big Uncle Matt extravaganza, I'll probably be happy. Even as a kid I wasn't really amused by his misunderstanding of the "silly creature" world when in other Fraggle songs they used "human being" and other human words quite liberally. :) In any case, getting new kids to start watching Fraggle Rock is good. I don't think there's ever been a show made quite like it.

[Beauregard]

Here's my thoughts:

AWOWAHHHWOWWOWOWO!

Here's my other thoughts:

The "outer Space" story lie sounds great, but so long as it centers on the fraggles, and not a little girl with two front teeth and a huge hair-style who hppens to believe in them (Womble's Movie anyone?). Also, it MUST have sprocket, lots of Sprocket. I'd be happy witha Sporket movie. And if they dream of replacing him with a real dog I will refuse to see the movie.

Trash-heap must have screen time. She's so darn hilarious, and her puppet is really amazing.

It would be great if they had a Junior Gorg aspect to the film, maybe something about how the Gorgs are connected to teh real world (i.e. the Crown in the woods thing Controversy).

Dispite what people say, I would loooove for a pairing off of the Fraggles. Red and Gobo. Definatly. Imagine Gobo and Red's kids, folks!

Hopefully Gobo and Red will be the main charcters, (with Sprocket), and then Mokey will have a large-ish part, and then Wembly and Boober less so.

About Cantus. and the minstrels, am I the only one who would want them in this movie? Recast, of coruse, or relooped from old tv seres lines for him done by Jim. Either way he is too cool to miss out on.

That is all.

Bea:zany:{Freekng excited}regard

[Warrick]

Steve and Dave can do Philo and Gunge. They used to back on the show when Richard wasnt around, and then Richard would loop the voice... But seriously even to me I couldnt recognise that it was Steve sometimes!

I dont think Id want anyone taking over Junior Gorg... It just would not be the same without Richard.

Also, I dont want no one taking over Cantus. Seeing as Jim cant perform Cantus, lets just bring in a new Minstrel. Call him Nelson Minstrel and have him just have Jerry Nelson's normal voice. I dont think that there is anyone else more fitting at this point in time.

[Beauregard]

Well, they certainly can't make a film with no Junior...so unless they dub him with lines from the old show, not sure how it would work if he wasn't recast.

[EleganceLiberty]

Gobo/Red? Ick... I dunno, that to me feels really... incestual.

Besides, can't a guy and girl be platonic friends without having to like, ya'know, be boyfriend/girlfriend? =/

[Beauregard]

Ok. Ok...I'll bow to the majority. They can be friends. But..good friends.

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Hooooooooooray! There's no better way to find out news like this than sitting on my couch with my laptop, watching Fraggle Rock. This is terrific news, I think, and I'm so excited! I will be there bright and early when this is released, at whatever showing is likely to be packed with the most kids and families. (I really like watching kids' movies with kids--especially things that can be truly magical like Henson or Pixar).

:smirk: :excited:

[Vic Romano]

If Jerry, Dave, Kathy, Karen and Steve are on board, then I'll be there opening day. It is the JHC and not Disney, so I guess I can remain optimistic. I'll be interested to learn more as it develops.

*sits down in corner and twiddles thumbs while whistling and waiting*

[MuppetDude]

WOW.

This IS the Year of the Fraggle!! :excited:

Second, the only other performer I can think of that could play Gobo is Matt Vogel. There was a character from "Between the Lions" named Derek Cheetah, and for some reason that voice sort of reminds me of Gobo. Plus, he's a great puppeteer.

[Whatever]

This sounds cool. I hope they can use the original performers. I also hope it's a smash hit! :excited:

[BooberFraggless]

Mabye they could have just Ma and Pa in this movie and they could say Junior went off to Gorg College. Either that or Matt Vogel could perform Junior. I can sense a little bit of Junior Gorg in his Big Bird voice.

[Allahandria]

Dispite what people say, I would loooove for a pairing off of the Fraggles. Red and Gobo. Definatly. Imagine Gobo and Red's kids, folks!


Hrm, but imaginging pregnant red or kinky fraggle sex just hurts my brain.

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Hrm, but imaginging pregnant red or kinky fraggle sex just hurts my brain.

That hurts a LOT of parts of me!

:eek:

[MuppetDanny]

Awesome!! :eek: I really do hope the movie gets a theatrically release :)

[Sylinde Bren]

Hrm, but imaginging pregnant red or kinky fraggle sex just hurts my brain.

That hurts a LOT of parts of me!

:eek:

And me! Would you guys tone it down with talking about Fraggles hooking up; it's eating what's left of my innocence. LOL! Baby Fraggles are hatched from eggs delivered mysteriously by storks who drop them down the Fraggle well -- end of story. ;P

[MattFraggle]

I'm a screenwriter and former professional animation artist and I would do anything to get involved with the production of this film!! ( I have ten years of animation experience in story, working for studios like dreamworks and cartoon network.) Yup, this is my unofficial application! Since I don't know exactly who is involved...and it takes MONTHS to get in contact with any Hollywood production.

Please God, if Jerry Juhl, or anyone involved with the production is reading this...hire me! I want to work on this film sooooooooooo bad... I'm a fan as well as a professional *beg beg beg pine pine beg*

beerbeastredux@yahoo.com ( click the link! I draw fraggles! )

http://metacritter.org/imagehost/RedFraggle.jpg

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Originally Posted by Allahandria
Hrm, but imaginging pregnant red or kinky fraggle sex just hurts my brain.


that went too far

I'm a screenwriter and former professional animation artist and I would do anything to get involved with the production of this film!! ( I have ten years of animation experience in story, working for studios like dreamworks and cartoon network.) Yup, this is my unofficial application! Since I don't know exactly who is involved...and it takes MONTHS to get in contact with any Hollywood production.

Please God, if Jerry Juhl, or anyone involved with the production is reading this...hire me! I want to work on this film sooooooooooo bad... I'm a fan as well as a professional *beg beg beg pine pine beg*

i'd post a thread that stats that you are intrested

[MattFraggle]

Oh yeah. I'd start a thread to try and get JHP attention, but that's generally not how things are done in Hollywood. They rarely pay attention to fan sites, and if they do, with a cautious eye. otherwise, they could get deluged by rabid fans. ( like myself )

The only reason I decided to submit that nerdy, fanboy-ish post, is because I'm genuainly interested ( and qualified ) to work in film. I had already started a FRAGGLE ROCK screenplay...ironically, just a few days before the news about the movie hit. I was planning to pitch my screenplay on a whim, sometime in the future, but more than likely, Jerry Juhl or some of the original writers will be brought back in to write the script. It only makes sense. Their writing was part of what made the show so appealing.

So if I don't have a chance to write a screenplay, I could do storyboard or concept art. Also, I'm almost done learning MAYA, the high end computer graphics software used bymost Hollywood studios. I would imagine JHP plan to use CG effects in association with the puppets. ( and I hope those effects blend seamlessly, and don't overshadow the puppets. Using them sparingly would be key. ) And keeping a well crafted story that draws on the series past magic. Story is always king.

One of the tidbits of my story,(which also involved the Fraggles going into outer space ) involved Red discovering a water park, and having to be dragged screaming away from it. As well as the fraggles discovering a gigantic trash dump, and thinking they had found the most powerful oracle in the universe. Those were just early ideas...thrown into a bag of possible story segments.

[Sylinde Bren]

One of the tidbits of my story,(which also involved the Fraggles going into outer space ) involved Red discovering a water park, and having to be dragged screaming away from it.

That is a genius idea! I can picture that scene in my head so vividly, and start giggling. She'd love a water park; she'd probably think she died and went to heaven. ;)

[lowercasegods]

Best Muppet news I've heard since Brian Henson bought back the Muppets from that German company!

[MattFraggle]

The first story concept of my screenplay was Gobo leaving the rock to search for his long lost parents, who were explorers like traveling Matt, and never returned from outer space. ( Gobo once referred to them in song ) And the others accompany him on his quest. A bit generic, but it was the first thing to pop into my head.

[MattFraggle]

That is a genius idea! I can picture that scene in my head so vividly, and start giggling. She'd love a water park; she'd probably think she died and went to heaven. ;)

Thanks Sylinde! I'm glad you like the idea! There's plenty more where that came from.

[muppetsforlife]

This is awesome!!!!!!! Who said that the fraggles and the muppets were dead franchises? It has to be a theatrical release. It just has to! :excited:

[Gorgon Heap]

If Jerry Juhl and Jocelyn Stevenson are working on the screenplay then I think we can rest easy.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[luvtosr]

I just read that Beau would want Boober to have a lesser part. I think that's unfair. I am a lifelong Boober fan and actually I don't care too much for Gobo and Red so I think it would be best if the fraggles had roughly equal parts to try to keep everybody happy, though Gobo probably will have a slightly better role - as ever.

But I do agree - lots of Sprocket ain't gonna hurt the picture one bit.

[EleganceLiberty]

Dude, if they were to have less Boober, lots of people would be angrier than me during that time of the month. (And THAT is angry, lemme tell you that) I'd probably go and like... punch a hole in the wall. XD

[Sylinde Bren]

Thanks Sylinde! I'm glad you like the idea! There's plenty more where that came from.

I think another great scene would be if Boober visited a laundromat (picture him trying to get a washer or dryer to take back to Fraggle Rock, hehe), or a restaurant. Mokey could visit an art gallery, and there's just so much potential for a feature film, it's amazing.

[MattFraggle]

Actually Sylinde, one of my movie ideas was to have the individual fraggles "distracted" by the wonders of outer space, and split up to have individual adventures.

But of course, there would be drawbacks and danger to these wonders as well. Boober might just as easily be dismayed by the sight of a modern clothes washer. He might feel, well, obsolete and question his place in the universe! He could stop worrying about hygiene and become filthy and unkempt! Not to mention there are a lot of scary things in the human world. Any moderatly frightening thing in our world could seem overwhelming to a fraggle, and make them yearn for home.

There's a chance the fraggles could get away with all kinds of stuff. If the story sticks to the "rules", then technically, no one could see them. (except certain dogs or maybe even children, perhaps ) That way Red could play in the water park without being seen or raising a health scare. "There's a yellow rat in the wave pool!" Mokey could wander the halls of an art gallery. Wembly could drive himself crazy trying to decide what to eat at an all-you-can-eat buffet.

The possibilities are endless :}

[minor muppetz]

I hope that Jerry Nelson, Dave Goelz, Steve Whitmire, Karen Prell, and Kathy Mullen can all perform in this. I also hope that Cheryl wagner can perform Ma Gorg, and that as many of the background performers as possible will be able to perform. I think David Rudman could perform Junior Gorg. I don't know about Gunge.

However, I think that most of the main fraggles, assuming that this movie isn't a prequel or featuring competely new characters, will have different performers.

Jerry Nelson has limited his work to just Sesame Street. I don't know if he would want to go through the work of performing his fraggle characters again. Especially sinc eGobo, in my opinion, was the star of Fraggle Rock. I guess he coudl just do voices if he can't/ won't actually perform.

karen prell has a contract with Pixar, and she is allowed to do occassional performing if she wants to. I am not sure if a movie would get in the way of her Pixar work or not.

I don't think Kathy Mullen has done any performing for henson in a long time, but hopefully she will work in this (then again, she didn't speak in the season 1 DVD interviews).

I am sure that Dave Goelz and Steve Whitmire would do this if they can schedule their time around the Muppets. I know that Disney is trying hard to get the muppets, especially Kermit, out to the public, and there are many Muppet productions currently being worked on.

Note: I have not read very many of the previous posts, so i do not know if anything I said has been discussed or covered.

[Whatever]

There's a chance the fraggles could get away with all kinds of stuff. If the story sticks to the "rules", then technically, no one could see them. (except certain dogs or maybe even children, perhaps )
Oh, I DON'T want to see a movie where they get befriended by some kid, and possibly held captive, like a Fragglish Indian in the Cupboard. Although there sort of is precedent in that episode where they're held captive by the Gorgs. Keep to the Fraggles, don't drag humans in, other than Doc, please!

[MattFraggle]

Here's another possible idea. The Fraggles could discover that they only have a certain amount of time before they have to return to the rock. I'm not sure how to work that, but it could be exciting. A ticking clock, as it's referred to in screenwriting circles.

Will they ever get back home? Will they be stuck in outer space forever? Will they become part of the human world? For that matter, who's to say how humans see or don't see them. They could see the fraggles as little children for all we know. We all know that humans interacted with Traveling Matt, but they never seemed shocked at the sight of this little creature with a tail. it's intriguing to think about.

click the link! I draw fraggles!

http://metacritter.org/imagehost/RedFraggle.jpg

[Sylinde Bren]

click the link! I draw fraggles!

http://metacritter.org/imagehost/RedFraggle.jpg

Wow, that's really good! :D Do you have one of Cantus, Mokey or Wembley?

[MattFraggle]

Wow, that's really good! :D Do you have one of Cantus, Mokey or Wembley?


Well, i'm currently making many many more pics. Gobo, Wembly, Mokey, the gorgs, they're all on the way. Actually, I thought the original Fraggle Rock animated series was so horribly done, that i wanted to design a new one. But then I heard about the movie...and well...it's not as if I can't make up a fraggly portfolio to submit to JHP.

btw, I tried to capture the genius of karen Prell in this particular image of Red. Go Karen! I can't wait to see you performing Red again!

[Gorgon Heap]

Something just occurred to me- remember how we were informed (by Karen, I believe) that the old Fraggle puppets were basically destroyed by age? This means that they'll have to be RE-BUILT. How good a job do you think will be done on them? The look of the Muppets has changed a bit as of late (compare the current incarnations of Kermit, Piggy, Gonzo, Fozzie et al to the various TMS versions, and compare the Whatnots of today to the Whatnots of the 70s and 80s, you'll see what I mean).

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[MattFraggle]

Well hopefully, if they have to rebuild the puppets..they don't make them "too" perfect. What I mean is that overly airbrushed, static look. Look at the covers of the Fraggle Rock DVD's and the pictures on the back. They aren't from the show. They're fraggle puppets set up for a photo shoot. They look terribly lifeless and static.

I call it "Return of the Jedi" syndrome. Everything in Return of the jedi was shiny and plasticine, where the two previous (and better films) were grungy, dirty, and had a lived in look to them. Whatever JHP decides to do, I just hope the new Fraggle puppets can be flung around, covered in gook, and bashed into each other.

I do so love a puppet's flailing, boneless arms :}

[BooberFraggless]

So who does everyone think would be a good replacement for Junior Gorg and Gunge? I vote for Matt Vogel for Junior Gorg, and Joey Mazzarino as Gunge.

[minor muppetz]

I'm a screenwriter and former professional animation artist and I would do anything to get involved with the production of this film!! ( I have ten years of animation experience in story, working for studios like dreamworks and cartoon network.) Yup, this is my unofficial application! Since I don't know exactly who is involved...and it takes MONTHS to get in contact with any Hollywood production.

Have you written scripts for any movies that have been released? What about for television? Have you ever thought about trying to get hired for The Muppets or Sesame Street?

[MattFraggle]

Oh, I've written a number of scripts over the years. ( my experience lies mostly in doing storyboards for places like Dreamworks, the old turner feature animation, Simpsons, little bit of Family guy, Nickelodeon...a bunch of stuff. )

I lost most of my scripts when my dadgum laptop crashed. (ironically, I was trying to save my files at the time to disk) There's nothing harder than trying to re-write a 120+page movie script you've already written :}

If Henson asked to see samples of my work, I would LOVE to give it to them.
Tragically, despite my experience in the entertainment industry, I doubt I would get the job. Screenwriting is a TERRIBLY tough business to get into. You have to write a JILLION-dollar record breaking movie before a producer will see you as anything but "an aspiring writer". In my case, I'm "just an artist".

A dream project like this comes along, and you'd KILL just to get a chance to work on it. That's why i'm going out of my way to try and get on the production. Somehow.

[Squall Leonhart]

WHAT?! A Fraggle Rock movie?! Is everybody on board yet? From what I've seen Kathyrn Mullen is missing, I don't know going into outerspace? Can you imagine? That would be so funny. I'll be there on opening day, and what about Doc? Mr. Parks is getting up in age ... but I still Can't wait! :excited:

[BooberFraggless]

I got thinking instead of Doc in this movie. They should have the old hole to outerspace and have a family living there in a house. They could explain that Doc's old Worskshop was torn down and a brand new house was built in its place. I think it'd be pretty cool. This might mean they don't have Sprocket around, but mabye this new Family could have another Muppet Dog or better yet, a Muppet Cat, who hates the Fraggles.

[Squigiman]

I think this could be one of the greatest things ever. It could also go terribly afoul. For some reason, I have greater confidence for the former than any "classic" Muppet project. I think there's a certain respect for the Fraggles, and they wouldn't suffer the dumbing down and cheapening that belies the core group.

Some important things, though, all five must take part, even if Jerry just dubs the Gobo voice. If he doesn't do that, it's pointless. Also, Jerry Juhl and all other creatives involved in the show's formation need to be a primary concern. He helped create these characters, and cannot be cast aside.

Another important note, I think, is that characters of Jim's and Richard's should be worked around and not recast. Not a big problem, as they were mainly secondary or only recurring. Gorgs and Heap and friends can be fit in, but no Junior. Gorg College sounded like a cute idea fitting of the sensibilities. Let's mainly focus on the core five, and also get some nice Sprocket in there. I am sorta surprised I've seen no mention of Doozers, either.

Anyways, Muppet characters curiously exploring the human world is the stuff that good Muppet movies are made of. Not retellings of old stories, not cheap, crude jokes. This could easily become an old-school feeling, super-enjoyable, and very meaningful movie. Jim concieved it to head towards world peace, and a full-length theatrical film could tell a marvelous story with a great message, and be really poinient in these crazy, paranoid times. Let's just not throw in a token Baretta-voiced new sidekick character to make lowbrow jokes and pop-culture references.


-Squigiman

[erniebert1234ss]

YEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAA!!!!! LOOOOVE THEEEM FRAAAGGGLLLLLLES!!!!

Celebrating aside, what a KILLER IDEA!!!!

BJ

[BEAR]

How perfect is this? I am so excited! With everything that has been going on in our world, we need the Fraggles back now more than ever! :excited:

[Kimp the Shrimp]

we can hope

[SillyRed]

I can't wait for the movie!! :excited:

[Sylinde Bren]

With everything that has been going on in our world, we need the Fraggles back now more than ever!

I second that, wholeheartedly!

[EleganceLiberty]

I was just thinking how cool it would be if Sidebottom got Boober to mess with a Dance Dance Revolution machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Dance_Revolution)in an arcade.

... I'm a video gamer, what do you expect? XP

[luvtosr]

I was just thinking 'I hope there's a Sidebottom cameo at least' I doubt we will but it would be excellent - Boober in Outer Space with the added problem of Sidebottom on the loose!

[Squigiman]

I forgot to mention this in my other post, but when I saw Kathy Mullen and Michael Frith at that big Muppet event last November, she had a miniature Mokey with her, from the episode where she shrinks. I also thought I remembered talk of the puppets actually holding up, which contradicts what I'd heard, probably based around Karen's improvised hat during her MuppetFest appearance. So, anyways, my main point is that I'm surprised she wasn't in the new stuff on the season DVD, and I'm also confident she'd want to be involved in this film.


-Squigiman

[Foodie]

I can't believe this!!!!!! :excited: :smirk:

Nick

[Foodie]

I'm a screenwriter and former professional animation artist and I would do anything to get involved with the production of this film!! ( I have ten years of animation experience in story, working for studios like dreamworks and cartoon network.) Yup, this is my unofficial application! Since I don't know exactly who is involved...and it takes MONTHS to get in contact with any Hollywood production.

Please God, if Jerry Juhl, or anyone involved with the production is reading this...hire me! I want to work on this film sooooooooooo bad... I'm a fan as well as a professional *beg beg beg pine pine beg*

]

I feel so unworthy of such a thing but I'd work on anything fraggle-related in mere seconds. I still can't believe this thread exists..... FINALLY! It's like a dream.

Hey! I draw fraggles too! See? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11785886/

Ooops! Those aren't fraggles! Heh heh. Here's Gobo. He's kinda stylised cuz I drew him just outta my head. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/9899484/ His eyes aren't on right either. Eep.

Nick

[beaker]

Wow, we've been hit with a massive whammy of glorious news. This is literally some of th ebiggest news to hit Muppet Central in the 7 years I've been on here.

I cannot wait to go see MirrorMask next weekend, and now this, wow.

It may appear selling the Muppets to Disney was the smart thing to do, in that
a Fraggle Rock film, Dark Crystal sequel film, and Dark Crystal anime would never have been possible. But wow, this is just insanely glorious news. 2007 is going to be one heck of a film year, going up with Batman 2, Spiderman 3, Transformers, Ninja turtles, Battle Angel, and Indiana Jones 4:)

Last we saw Fraggle Rock they were under Fozzie Mom's house(or visiting Doc, or in the unaired cast party episode they are in Canada) so the imagination runs wild thinking what sort of Fraggle adventures are ins tore in the modern "outer space" world.

[MrsPepper]

Wow, Ninja Turtles? Really?! Cartoon, or animatronics like last time. The ninja turtles ROCK.

[beaker]

Wow, Ninja Turtles? Really?! Cartoon, or animatronics like last time. The ninja turtles ROCK.

A slightly edgier all cgi film. The idea of a gritty cgi TMNT film first sprung up in 2001 when John Woo was spose to direct, but now the new film is definately a go:

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8982

[MrsPepper]

Too bad there's pretty much no info, but that's awesome. ^_^
What's also too bad is that last time I checked, there are no showing of Mirrormask in my country, let alone my area.
But i'm derailing the thread.

[Gorgon Heap]

Squig-

What Muppet event did you see Kathy Mullen and Michael Frith at? Did you get to meet them?

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[AAO]

Well, as a child from the 80's era and or "Fraggle" era, this is really cool! I can just see Red, Gobo, Wembley, Boober, & Mokey walking down a city street seeing and hearing the large city, having others look at them as they walk talking and discussing this "new" world. I think the film will do fairly well - and once it hits DVD or Video, it'll sell quickly, I'm sure!

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Wow, we've been hit with a massive whammy of glorious news. This is literally some of th ebiggest news to hit Muppet Central in the 7 years I've been on here.

I cannot wait to go see MirrorMask next weekend, and now this, wow.

It may appear selling the Muppets to Disney was the smart thing to do, in that
a Fraggle Rock film, Dark Crystal sequel film, and Dark Crystal anime would never have been possible. But wow, this is just insanely glorious news. 2007 is going to be one heck of a film year, going up with Batman 2, Spiderman 3, Transformers, Ninja turtles, Battle Angel, and Indiana Jones 4:)

Last we saw Fraggle Rock they were under Fozzie Mom's house(or visiting Doc, or in the unaired cast party episode they are in Canada) so the imagination runs wild thinking what sort of Fraggle adventures are ins tore in the modern "outer space" world.

and smurfs

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Well, as a child from the 80's era and or "Fraggle" era, this is really cool! I can just see Red, Gobo, Wembley, Boober, & Mokey walking down a city street seeing and hearing the large city, having others look at them as they walk talking and discussing this "new" world. I think the film will do fairly well - and once it hits DVD or Video, it'll sell quickly, I'm sure!

when where u born 86-87

[BEAR]

and smurfs

What do you mean? :confused:

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Smurfs CGI Movie 2007

[Kimp the Shrimp]

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/eo/20050719/112182198000.html
edit: sorry 2008 but still

[AAO]

I'm from the '87 era...Fraggles were still "dancin' their cares away.." - some episodes in syndication on HBO - but I still got to watch them - I even got to watch "Fraggle Rock - The Animated Series" - I liked it , but missed the puppets...

[beaker]

Hrm, but imaginging pregnant red or kinky fraggle sex just hurts my brain.

I'm still needing therapy from Floyd Pepper's revelations at Muppetfest.

Gobo/Red? Ick... I dunno, that to me feels really... incestual.

Besides, can't a guy and girl be platonic friends without having to like, ya'know, be boyfriend/girlfriend? =/

Hey, ya think Fraggles just ,agically grow on trees? :)

I can't wait. I'm going to explode with candy and strimmers and confetii all around. I would love to see this and if it happens I hope by that time I'll have a girlfriend and she can come and see it with me hoping she don't freak out becasue we're seeing a kids movie but with time maybe I'll find the right one. Come on Fraggle Five and get this done so we can see it SOON! :excited: :smirk:


(PS they better have some good new and old songs in this movie and I want them to do some cool merindice for this movie too)

Hey, I hear you dude; I hope by 2007 I have a girlfriend as well! (and I will be 29!)

[lowercasegods]

Wow, we've been hit with a massive whammy of glorious news. This is literally some of th ebiggest news to hit Muppet Central in the 7 years I've been on here.

I cannot wait to go see MirrorMask next weekend, and now this, wow.

It may appear selling the Muppets to Disney was the smart thing to do, in that
a Fraggle Rock film, Dark Crystal sequel film, and Dark Crystal anime would never have been possible. But wow, this is just insanely glorious news. 2007 is going to be one heck of a film year, going up with Batman 2, Spiderman 3, Transformers, Ninja turtles, Battle Angel, and Indiana Jones 4:)

Last we saw Fraggle Rock they were under Fozzie Mom's house(or visiting Doc, or in the unaired cast party episode they are in Canada) so the imagination runs wild thinking what sort of Fraggle adventures are ins tore in the modern "outer space" world.

Well, I certainly agree that the possibility of a Fraggle Rock movie is the best Muppets news in a good long while, but I'm not sure I agree that the Disney aquisition of the Muppets should be given credit for great things happening in the Brian Henson camp. The Henson's had all these great characters to play with before, and they've got them to play with now, regardless of Disney's intervention. Now, were you to say, "Yay! We're gonna see more Kermit and Piggy on TV and in movies," then sure, giving props to Disney makes sense, since they're the one's making it happen. As for me I'm most excited about the Fraggle Rock movie because the Fraggles, which I consider to be the purest and most untainted Muppet concept, have been kept mercifully free of the Disney Grasp, and I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of magic the Henson's still have up their sleeves.

[Xela]

I was just thinking how cool it would be if Sidebottom got Boober to mess with a Dance Dance Revolution machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Dance_Revolution)in an arcade.

... I'm a video gamer, what do you expect? XP


...That would be...SO funny! I cracked up while reading that, actually! As a fellow video gamer, and as someone who likes Boober...I think that would be hilarious! :D

[minor muppetz]

Last we saw Fraggle Rock they were under Fozzie Mom's house(or visiting Doc, or in the unaired cast party episode they are in Canada) so the imagination runs wild thinking what sort of Fraggle adventures are ins tore in the modern "outer space" world.

I thought that the fraggles last appeared in The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson. I haven't actually seen that special, so it's possible that they only appeared in clips from the show, but even if that is the case, Gobo, Mokey, Wembly, and Red were all present at Jim Hensons memorial service.

[lowercasegods]

So who does everyone think would be a good replacement for Junior Gorg and Gunge? I vote for Matt Vogel for Junior Gorg, and Joey Mazzarino as Gunge.

I think I'd actually push for Bill Barretta for Junior Gorg, but I'm sure other people have already mentioned that already.

[BEAR]

I think I'd actually push for Bill Barretta for Junior Gorg, but I'm sure other people have already mentioned that already.


I think it should be David Rudman because he can do that goofy baby voice, like Baby Bear.

[MrsPepper]

Last we saw Fraggle Rock they were under Fozzie Mom's house(or visiting Doc, or in the unaired cast party episode they are in Canada) so the imagination runs wild thinking what sort of Fraggle adventures are ins tore in the modern "outer space" world.

What's this about a cast party? :confused:

And the fraggles were always in Canada. Gobo's tuques and accent prove it. How do you think we canucks got so cool?

[lowercasegods]

Y'know, I actually hope that they shoot the enitrety of the Fraggle Rock movie in Toronto. Canada truly is the home of the Fraggles, and I think they need to preserve that connection.

[Wembley]

Well, I think in the Fraggle timeline, the Fraggles visited Fozzie's Mom's house before the final three episodes - the reason is that when the Fraggles visit the house, Doc asks Sprocket "Are those the fraggles you keep telling me about?"

At least, that's what I think....

-Rick "Wembley" Miller
...You can NOT leave the magic!

Wow, we've been hit with a massive whammy of glorious news. This is literally some of th ebiggest news to hit Muppet Central in the 7 years I've been on here.

I cannot wait to go see MirrorMask next weekend, and now this, wow.

It may appear selling the Muppets to Disney was the smart thing to do, in that
a Fraggle Rock film, Dark Crystal sequel film, and Dark Crystal anime would never have been possible. But wow, this is just insanely glorious news. 2007 is going to be one heck of a film year, going up with Batman 2, Spiderman 3, Transformers, Ninja turtles, Battle Angel, and Indiana Jones 4:)

Last we saw Fraggle Rock they were under Fozzie Mom's house(or visiting Doc, or in the unaired cast party episode they are in Canada) so the imagination runs wild thinking what sort of Fraggle adventures are ins tore in the modern "outer space" world.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

I Loved the Fraglles on the CBC thats how i saw them didn't have HBO

[dollynibble]

:eek: EEEELLOOO MEME ..Oh yeah this is great news, thanx!...I can hardly wait!...the doozers are coming back with their little trucks and chewy buildings!......

Deana xx

[Fozzie Bear]

Lisa Henson made a small mention that this is in development at the MTR in LA. I'm very excited about this, and I hope they stay true to the original message in the series as well.

And I HOPE they don't go all hog-wild with new PEOPLE characters in outer-space and keep the focus solely on the Fraggle Five.

So, any speculation on the story plot?

[Drtooth]

I've always felt cheated there was no Fraggle Movie before for 2 reasons:

1, Fraggle Rock probably would have gotten a MUCH bigger audience if they didn't have it on a cable channel, a premium one at that. The cartoon was all the exposure they got outside of cable (except for the videos). But as a poor kid like me, a movie would've been the way to go.

2, You notice how on Sesame Street, since they have a budget, the street looks kinda dead, and empty? But on FTB and even EIG the street is bigger, bustling, even a beauty to look at. Think of how big they could make Fraggle Rock with a bigger budget! Deeper, more realistic caves.... more fraggles.... more Doozers with more complex stick creations.... the possibilities are endless!

I'm wondering why no one said David Rudman when people said "who will be Junior." Dave has reprised a lot of Richard's roles. The second head of the Twoheaded monster, Sonny Friendly, and even Sweetums once on the Cosby Show. I think he could have made a pretty good Sweetums, even though his voice was higher pitched.

[Beauregard]

Lisa Henson made a small mention that this is in development at the MTR in LA. I'm very excited about this, and I hope they stay true to the original message in the series as well.

And I HOPE they don't go all hog-wild with new PEOPLE characters in outer-space and keep the focus solely on the Fraggle Five.

So, any speculation on the story plot?
They will almost without a doubt have a cute human kid in the story, Fozzie, it's the way of the times...

[Elggarf]

I think this is the single most amazing peice of news of the year. I suspect that many of us are completely unable to describe our joy.

In my opinion, if this movie has 1% of the joy, meaning, and symbolism of the fraggles it will be worth making. No matter how disapointing it is, I will be greatful for the effort.

I also have the deep rooted hope that the writers will include the main theme of the fraggles, and sit down to discuss the story with the question, "how do we write a film to end war?"

The themes of conflict resolution and cross-cultural understanding have to be combined with just an amazingly energetic love of life and a passionate expression of joy.

And personally, I would love to see the fraggles on TV again. If they could somehow make this film a transition story that would allow the start of a new show, that would be wonderful. Of course, that might mean introducing new fraggle characters to replace any of the main five muppeteers that would not want to return for another whole series, and I would respect that choice.

But for the most part, I am not worried. I have so much respect for everyone who made the old series. And I trust not only their own talents but their ability to find talent in others. I'm sure everyone who will be involved in making this film will put a peice of themself into it, and it'll show.

[Fozzie Bear]

They will almost without a doubt have a cute human kid in the story, Fozzie, it's the way of the times...

ugh. I hope not.

I look forward to something very cool, though.

[MattFraggle]

Look, if there IS a kid in the story, don't worry about it! You're already having doubts about this movie? It was just announced a few days ago! We should all be sending flowers and thank you cards to Henson for deciding to give the fraggles the big screen treatment!

Look guys, I find it very strange there's such a negative "kid" attitude here. People saying they don't want to see a movie if there's a kid in it? That's ridiculous! We were kids once. It was a kids show, which never talked down to us. If I didn't know any better, that would indicate a hatred for children.

Before you get all bent out of shape, try to remember how happy it made us when we were kids, and just think how happy it will make a whole NEW generation of kids.

[Gorgon Heap]

I don't think I ever recorded my initial reaction to this project, so here it is:

PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE DOOZER STICKS!

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[ryhoyarbie]

If a movie is coming out then I need to watch the Fraggle Rock show, since I haven't seen the show in 15 or so.

ryan

[Fozzie Bear]

I don't think I ever recorded my initial reaction to this project, so here it is: PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE DOOZER STICKS!
David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

HA HA HA HA!! Funn-ee!

[muppetsforlife]

I think this really could be pulled off as a theatrically release. With the popularity of remakes of old shows for the big screen such as The Flintstones and Garfield, I think a Fraggle Rock movie would do really well. I know i'd go!!

[Beauregard]

CGI! *mwahahahahah*

Ok, I was kidding, don't mob me!!!

[Fozzie Bear]

Everybody dog-pile on top of Beau!! :)

[Beauregard]

I think Dog Piles should stay in their own thread, firmly shut behind sound proof doors...don't you? Maybe in the thread next to Winne Their Pooh.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

yes

[unclematt]

You know what's really weird about this? I JUST got done watching "Honk Of Honks" and "Change Of Address." I don't know why, I just felt like watching them. Then, as soon as the ending gets over with, I hopped over here to see what's new, and of all things, this shows up. I can't tell you how excited I am for this, and I hope the original five are in this, as well, and that they don't mess this up like other projects.
When you say projects they have messed up are you referring to MFS and KSY or do you feel there have bben other mistakes made along the way?

[Drtooth]

I wonder how Jerry Juhl's passing would affect this project. Hopefully not by much, though the writing wouldn't be the same.

[BEAR]

I wonder how Jerry Juhl's passing would affect this project. Hopefully not by much, though the writing wouldn't be the same.

Though it wouldn't have the exact same feel as it would if Jerry Juhl was still here, there are still other wonderful collaborators from the original Fraggle writing team that will ensure the same spirit it was meant to have. They will keep in mind what Jerry (as well as Jim Henson) would have done. I don't think we have anything to worry about. As far as I'm concerned, this is still his film too. :excited:

[Fozzie Bear]

I'm hoping that IF Jerry Juhl was even involved that there are some works of his left behind. Then again, who's to say that a FR Movie Script written by him wasn't created way back when the series ended? We don't know what there is on record or on file, and the very movie they shoot might end up having been from a script he penned! Time will tell, but if nothing else they have the whole series to look back to and write a new story from. By that, he is still involved.

[Fraggleforever]

I was really surprised about the news. A Fraggle Rock movie? Was I dreaming? No, I wasn't! But a thought quickly ran through my mind. Will this movie be 20 years too late? I mean, movie audiences have different expectations for movies than they did 20 years ago. Even kids do. But when this baby hits, get ready to sing "Dance your cares away, worries for another day, let the music play, down at Fraggle Rock!" Another note, I really hope that Jerry Nelson will perform Gobo. I have no doubt that he will.

[BEAR]

I am sure they will have no big problem bringing back all the still living performers from the original show. The only recasting I guess would be Jim Henson and Richard Hunt characters. Since their characters were fairly secondary they probably won't even appear in the film all that much anyway. Junior Gorg might be the exception, but I think David Rudman would be perfect to take it on. He could perform the little guy that hangs out with Trash Heap too. Phil and Gunge kind of remind me of when Rudman and Joey Mazzarino played Davey and Joey Monkey on Sesame Street. Both characters sound a lot like Rudman's Sesame characters. Plus, since they are smaller parts, it wouldn't take away too much from his Sesame Street responsibilities.

[alexgeyerx]

This is a brilliant idea as long as they dont screw it up. I would like to see alot of Boober! And an apperence by the fun loveing Sidebottom! I think Doc and Sprockette shuld'nt be in the film they cant replace Doc.... But I do think the gorgs and trasheap shuld be in it. I think the trash heap shuld be the one to send them off that wouls be kool... but I would like to see more fraggles the the Fraggle Five altho i love them dearly lol...
So Jim Henson productions.... DONT MESS THIS UP OR YOUR GUNNA HAVE ALOT OF ANGRY FRAGGLE FANS ON YOU HANDS!! lol:p

:smirk: :excited:
fraggles.... MUAHAHHAHAHA

[Gorgon Heap]

This is a brilliant idea as long as they dont screw it up. I would like to see alot of Boober! And an apperence by the fun loveing Sidebottom! I think Doc and Sprockette shuld'nt be in the film they cant replace Doc....

Why would they have to replace Doc? The original actor who played him in the U.S. & Canadian versions, Gerard Parkes, is still alive and acting.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[BEAR]

This is a brilliant idea as long as they dont screw it up. I would like to see alot of Boober! And an apperence by the fun loveing Sidebottom! I think Doc and Sprockette shuld'nt be in the film they cant replace Doc.... But I do think the gorgs and trasheap shuld be in it. I think the trash heap shuld be the one to send them off that wouls be kool... but I would like to see more fraggles the the Fraggle Five altho i love them dearly lol...
So Jim Henson productions.... DONT MESS THIS UP OR YOUR GUNNA HAVE ALOT OF ANGRY FRAGGLE FANS ON YOU HANDS!! lol:p

:smirk: :excited:
fraggles.... MUAHAHHAHAHA

Why no Doc or Sprockey?? They were intrical to the Fraggle Family and spirit. You gotta have Sprocket! They don't have to have huge roles but atleast a cameo or a short scene or 2. Doc was great!

[MrsPepper]

This post is a muffin, but yesterday I was watching MCC, and Sprocket was hanging out a window in the opening number. :eek:

[Beauregard]

Maybe not Doc..but certainly Sprocket. Perhaps with a new owner? A grand child of Doc?

[Fozzie Bear]

Why would they have to replace Doc? The original actor who played him in the U.S. & Canadian versions, Gerard Parkes, is still alive and acting.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

All the more reason to hurry up and get started on the thing...at least shoot the Doc/Sprocket scenes.

But, if they DID have to replace Doc...who? The closest I could think of would be the guy who played Roscoe on Dukes of Hazzard on TV (NOT the movie).

[BEAR]

Wait wait wait!!! I need to understand--Why no Doc? What is the purpose? What is wrong with him?

[unclematt]

Wait wait wait!!! I need to understand--Why no Doc? What is the purpose? What is wrong with him?
I want to know as well.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Wait wait wait!!! I need to understand--Why no Doc? What is the purpose? What is wrong with him?

Maybe he wants nothing to do with the project, plus he moved away the last episode

[Fozzie Bear]

But, in the last episode, after moving didn't the Fraggles still find their way to his new house?

I don't think anybody's said "NO" Doc in the movie. It's been posted that he's still acting and is doing fine.

I did ask that if you HAD to replace the character with another actor, who would it be--that's all. Just curious.

Really, a Fraggle Rock story isn't a Fraggle Rock story without Doc. The only reason I could see for them NOT using Doc is because of his many incarnations in all the different countries (they didn't use the same actor in every country, y'know that already though). Plus, the toolshed changed with every show to a lighthouse or whatever else.

Whatchoothinkin?

[Kimp the Shrimp]

oh i just thought it was said i am a big Doc fan and Sproket

[BEAR]

But, in the last episode, after moving didn't the Fraggles still find their way to his new house?

I don't think anybody's said "NO" Doc in the movie. It's been posted that he's still acting and is doing fine.

I did ask that if you HAD to replace the character with another actor, who would it be--that's all. Just curious.

Really, a Fraggle Rock story isn't a Fraggle Rock story without Doc. The only reason I could see for them NOT using Doc is because of his many incarnations in all the different countries (they didn't use the same actor in every country, y'know that already though). Plus, the toolshed changed with every show to a lighthouse or whatever else.

Whatchoothinkin?

Right but the one we all know is Gerry Parks. He is the "real" Doc as far as I am concerned. He appeared in MFC and everything. I don't think there is any need to have a bunch of different Docs for this film to accomodate every country it gets released to. That is spending extra money they don't need to pay. What is the point for a movie. You don't see them redoing Follow That Bird using the international character counterparts. It is the same movie with the same message no matter who views it. I just don't get it. It would be the same character. Maybe I am just naive or something.

[MrsPepper]

Yeah, I'm kind of with Bear. Don't mean to be selfish or anything, but I love Doc. And he's still around and acting, and most likely would do it (who wouldn't? It's Fraggle Rock!) I'd rather not think about replacing Doc! If it had to be done, I have no clue who would be a good replacement..

[Fozzie Bear]

Maybe I am just naive or something.

No, you're not.

They won't re-film Follow that Bird with other countries' Big-Bird-Counterpart because it was filmed totally for the American Audiences (and those familiar with it) which is why it all happens on Sesame Street, with the NY Sesame Street Cast, etc.

Though, now that you've made me think of it, why HAVEN'T the other versions of SS made any movies?? Get 'em dubbed in english and I'd buy it down the road! (Heck, I do good to understand english!)

Honestly, I couldn't see another Doc other than Parkes. Just adding something into the thread for conversational purposes--not that it's going to be done.

Wonder what the appeal would be to foreign countries (to USA) with a different Doc than THEY'RE used to?

[unclematt]

The movies main audience would be in the USA and Canada, Right? Use Mr. Parks then. I would be very dissapointed if there was no or another actopr playing Doc. I would see the movie but I would always have that in the back of my mind. Tell me if I am wrong ablout it mainly being marketed to an American/Canadian audience.

[Beauregard]

*puts up hand*

MFC has the American Doc, and I never had a problem with that. In fact, I personally prefer him to the lighthouse Doc anyway, and I am british...so...I'd be happy to stick with the Doc of all Docs.

But if there was going to be a suggestion of no Doc, certainly procket would have to still be in the movie. Sprocket IS Fraggle Rock. He's what I watch it for.

[Fozzie Bear]

Cool. I like having the opinion of someone from "across the waters!"

Wonder what his (Doc's) opinion is of a movie?

[Beauregard]

His Doc's opinion? Well...maybe we should go ask his physician...oh, wait...sorry...

[Fozzie Bear]

I'm...you just...confused my...

Where's my aspirin?

[unclematt]

to sum it up. There needs to be a Doc and I fee it should be the Doc

[BEAR]

to sum it up. There needs to be a Doc and I fee it should be the Doc


Me too. It should be no one else if we can help it. How old is Gerry Parks? You say he is still very active?

[BooberFraggless]

It's funny the Internet Movie Database doesn't list his DOB. It looks like his last acting job was only a year ago. I would say he's right around 80 years old. Give or take a few years

[unclematt]

Do you think he would be willing to do it?

[BEAR]

Do you think he would be willing to do it?


I think he would. He was pretty well known for that role and I think he enjoyed doing it at the time. From what I have read he was a very nice man and a good friend of the Henson Company.

[Cantus Rock]

I am cautiously endorsing this project. The elements seem to be there.

I haven't read everything here; is the original music team signed on for this?

I can only pray that the revamping of the core Muppet cast doesn't happen here as well. That would be the end of the world as far as I'm concerned. To deface the classicness of the Fraggles would be a sign of the apocalypse for me. The humor has got to be classic; it would be horrible for corny pop-culture referrences and semi-adult humor. But it is Disney, so I'm expecting all of this, plus a smattering of pop icon cameos with goofy, "with-it" lines. :rolleyes:

I'm praying for good things; with the original cast most likely in, and Juhl back at the scriptwriting, it may be something good. But I'm still very cautious, and will remain critical. Jim isn't here to oversee; that is now and always will be the missing puzzle piece.

[BEAR]

I am cautiously endorsing this project. The elements seem to be there.

I haven't read everything here; is the original music team signed on for this?

I can only pray that the revamping of the core Muppet cast doesn't happen here as well. That would be the end of the world as far as I'm concerned. To deface the classicness of the Fraggles would be a sign of the apocalypse for me. The humor has got to be classic; it would be horrible for corny pop-culture referrences and semi-adult humor. But it is Disney, so I'm expecting all of this, plus a smattering of pop icon cameos with goofy, "with-it" lines. :rolleyes:

I'm praying for good things; with the original cast most likely in, and Juhl back at the scriptwriting, it may be something good. But I'm still very cautious, and will remain critical. Jim isn't here to oversee; that is now and always will be the missing puzzle piece.

Are you sure Disney is producing this film? Also, I'm sure you heard, but Jerry Juhl passed away a couple weeks ago.

[Cantus]

I'm not exactly sure Disney has Fraggle Rock. I know they have the Muppets, but Fraggle Rock is something separate, like Sesame Street. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the way it is, otherwise I'm pretty sure it would've read Disney producing Fraggle movie, instead of Henson.

[GelflingWaldo]

But it is Disney, so I'm expecting all of this, plus a smattering of pop icon cameos with goofy, "with-it" lines. :rolleyes:
Disney is not involved in this project, this production is in complete control of the Jim Henson Company - Disney is not in the picture at all.

[Cantus Rock]

I just realized that now, I apologize.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

i hope that Philo and grunge will be in the movie

[G-MAN]

Yes, that'd be cool

[BooberFraggless]

Yeah, Joey Mazzarino could do the voice for Gunge, it'd be really cool to see them on this movie.

[spcglider]

I haven't read anything about the proposed film, but I'll post what I think it'll end up being and y'all can check me to see if I get it.

Movie plot:

Gobo stops receiving postcards from his uncle Traveling Matt. He gets worried and mounts an expedition to Outer Space to find him.

Not only do the Fraggle 5 go, but so does Cotterpin Doozer and Junior Gorg (though perhaps not as part of the rescue team). They all eventually meet up in Outer Space and help each other get the job done.

Hilarity ensues as Fraggles, Doozer and Gorg interact with a panoply of cameo guests and the silliness of Outer Space.

It only makes sense. They wouldn't be interested in reconstructing the entirety of the Fraggle Rock puppet sets, so they'll film the majority of the film in "the Real World" to keep production costs low and allow them to go to all sorts of places around the country... it worked well in The Muppet Movie, why not with Fraggles? Writing an adventure that takes place in the Fraggle world would require too much intense studio work. not to mentin they'd have to figure out an even more contrived way to get a guest star down in to Fraggle Rock.

At least that's how I'd write it. Lots of cameos allow you to bring star power to the movie without having to get a star to commit more than one or two days to the shoot. Shooting in the real world cuts your production design costs way down.

-G

[Cantus Rock]

All bets are now off, upon hearing about Jerry Juhl's passing. I feel so depressed; I had such high hopes for this project, and now I feel a corporate cash cow coming on. Its enough to consume a man.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Life Will Go On Brother

[Fozzie Bear]

They wouldn't be interested in reconstructing the entirety of the Fraggle Rock puppet sets, so they'll film the majority of the film in "the Real World"

Unless (and let's cross fingers and toes here) they were going to make a new series in the Rock...then, it'd be worth it.

[Cantus Rock]

Life Will Go On Brother
Sure, life goes on. But it'll never be as good, and unlike the majority, I am unwilling to settle for reconstructed knock-offs. The queen of hearts has white roses; a coat of red paint doesn't change that.

[Fozzie Bear]

How do you know it's not from a script Jerry Juhl already had his hands on, or even wrote completely?

This is falling under the whole 'cart-before-the-horse' thing. Give it some time and I betcha we will be pleased! JHC is needing this film to be a hit, so I don't think they're going to give us any ol' rubbish.

[Gorgon Heap]

I think he would. He was pretty well known for that role and I think he enjoyed doing it at the time. From what I have read he was a very nice man and a good friend of the Henson Company.

What have you read? I can never find anything on Gerry Parkes.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[unclematt]

Cantus, I have a question for you. Do you want to see the Muppets be successful in the future? If your answer is yes then you must give them a chance to successful. I am not trying to pick on you as we have had our disagreements in the past, but to all of the ney sayers out there, please give the Muppets a chance to be the Muppets that we remember. I am a devout cubs fan and have learned that you can never give up. I feel the same way about the Muppets.

[Gorgon Heap]

We may be without Jerry Juhl, but isn't there still Jocelyn Stevenson and Susan Juhl and the other main hub of FR writers? Most of the FR writers are still living, with the exceptions of Jerry Juhl and Carol Bolt (Episode 15 "I Don't Care"). Suppose Jocelyn wrote the screenplay? I think we could all be satisfied with that. It's true, by nearly all accounts Jerry Juhl was the best of the FR writers, but that doesn't mean that nobody else can take up the mantle.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[BEAR]

We may be without Jerry Juhl, but isn't there still Jocelyn Stevenson and Susan Juhl and the other main hub of FR writers? Most of the FR writers are still living, with the exceptions of Jerry Juhl and Carol Bolt (Episode 15 "I Don't Care"). Suppose Jocelyn wrote the screenplay? I think we could all be satisfied with that. It's true, by nearly all accounts Jerry Juhl was the best of the FR writers, but that doesn't mean that nobody else can take up the mantle.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

I agree. Jocelyn Stevenson was a very important part of the shows production and knows exactly what a Fraggle project should be. Same goes for Susan Juhl. I mean, she was his wife for petes sake. She knows what Jerry would have wanted. Plus, we got all 5 of the original Muppet performers (assuming they will ALL be involved which I doubt otherwise) adding their own imput. There is no Pepe walking that controversial line, so what's to loose. I am sure it will all be wonderful. If Gerry Parks signs on to reprise his role as "Doc" well then that is just the sweetest icing on the cake too.:excited:

[BooberFraggless]

Also since Susan Juhl was Jerry Juhl's wife, she probably knows a lot about how her husbands writing was since she was married to him for many years, and she could write the movie according to how Jerry would have written it. I'm sure she knows just what he would do. People who have been married for many years tend to know a lot about each other. I still think this is going to be a very good movie, and I think it should be dedicated to the loving memory of Jerry Juhl. :sympathy:

[BEAR]

I think it should be dedicated to the loving memory of Jerry Juhl. :sympathy:


It probably will be. Also, like Kevin said, Jerry Juhl probably left behind some notes or even partially written scripts to go towards the film. He may get a writing credit of his own. I understand that they were thinking of making a film like this years ago.

[Fozzie Bear]

What have you read? I can never find anything on Gerry Parkes.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0662730/
http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Cottage/8264/nyt_text.html

This is as close as I can find to anything about 'im.

Right, Sprockey?
"Woof!"

[BlazingBeaker]

Oh my Oh my!!! I can't believe they're gonna make a Fraggle Rock movie!
Now something i can share with my daughter! Now she will hopefully understand my excitement of such a wonderful kids show!:excited:
:excited:
I have been waiting for soooo long for the fraggles to get the limelight they awesomely deserve!:cry:

[unclematt]

I am not getting my hopes up yet. I have been let down so many times before.

[Fozzie Bear]

Oh my Oh my!!! I can't believe they're gonna make a Fraggle Rock movie!
Now something i can share with my daughter! Now she will hopefully understand my excitement of such a wonderful kids show!

I have been waiting for soooo long for the fraggles to get the limelight they awesomely deserve!

Go buy Season One on DVD so they'll put Season Two on DVD also!!
GO GO GO! :)

[unclematt]

Are sales not that high for Season 1

[Kimp the Shrimp]

http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4300

check it out

http://muppetnewsflash.blogspot.com/2005/09/season-two-too-part-2-fraggle-rock.html

sorry i thought it was a newer stor from muppet news flash


Amazon ranking 10/13 #132
10/14 #154

[Ilikemuppets]

I'm spechless, man, I'm just glad the film is coming out.

[unclematt]

I still expect the cameos

[Ilikemuppets]

this production is in complete control of the Jim Henson Company

Not exacatly,because Hit Entertianment is the one releasing it.

[unclematt]

yeah but I think HIT realizes that JHC knows what is best for its characters

[Ilikemuppets]

I haven't read anything about the proposed film, but I'll post what I think it'll end up being and y'all can check me to see if I get it.

Movie plot:

Gobo stops receiving postcards from his uncle Traveling Matt. He gets worried and mounts an expedition to Outer Space to find him.

Not only do the Fraggle 5 go, but so does Cotterpin Doozer and Junior Gorg (though perhaps not as part of the rescue team). They all eventually meet up in Outer Space and help each other get the job done.

Hilarity ensues as Fraggles, Doozer and Gorg interact with a panoply of cameo guests and the silliness of Outer Space.

It only makes sense. They wouldn't be interested in reconstructing the entirety of the Fraggle Rock puppet sets, so they'll film the majority of the film in "the Real World" to keep production costs low and allow them to go to all sorts of places around the country... it worked well in The Muppet Movie, why not with Fraggles? Writing an adventure that takes place in the Fraggle world would require too much intense studio work. not to mentin they'd have to figure out an even more contrived way to get a guest star down in to Fraggle Rock.

At least that's how I'd write it. Lots of cameos allow you to bring star power to the movie without having to get a star to commit more than one or two days to the shoot. Shooting in the real world cuts your production design costs way down.

-G

Not only does that ideal repules me, but it in no way, shape, form, or fashion, what so ever; resembles what Fraggle Rock was about, or how Fraggle Rock was. Not one bit! In the least! I'm sorry, but I just needed to get that out. Thank you and have a good day.

[MattFraggle]

I agree. Celebrity cameos would absoloutly RUIN a Fraggle Rock movie. If you're gonna have cameos, why not let them be of the FRAGGLE ROCK puppeteers? You could have them in the background of an elevator the fraggle's have dashed onto, or you could even have a nightmare where the fraggles imagine themselves as silly creatures! Just imagine the real life Karen Prell with her hair done up in Red-style braids, or Jerry Nelson's Gobo voice coming out of his human mouth. I get the giggles just thinking about it.

I for one, would puke in my popcorn if I saw an a-list celebrity in this movie.

[BEAR]

I agree. Celebrity cameos would absoloutly RUIN a Fraggle Rock movie. If you're gonna have cameos, why not let them be of the FRAGLLE ROCK puppeteers? You could have them in the background of an elevator the fraggle's have dashed onto, or you could even have a nightmare where the fraggles imagine themselves as silly creatures!

I for one, would puke in my popcorn if I saw an a-list celebrity in this movie.


Would it be totally awful to have a cameo by other Muppets like Kermit or Big Bird or Grover or something, like they used to do with the first 3 Muppet films? I know it would be a little harder because of rights, but would you be opposed to it?

[MattFraggle]

Personally, I think muppet cameos would be distracting. Very distracting. Story is king when it comes to movies. You should have fun while making it, but bear in mind how an audience will react. Some may giggle and find a muppet cameo funny, but to others it may seem tired and unnecessary. I've worked for Dreamworks, Sony, Nickelodeon, Cartoon network, and others. And the temptation to put little jokes and cameos like that in a film or series is a constant. But, if you depend too heavily on that, you lose sight of what makes a show special on it's own rights. My personal opinion, is that it cheapens the story. Fraggle Rock never had to depend on hip cultural references to be cool. It just was.

Oh, and yes, to get the other muppets, Henson would have to negotiate with DISNEY *groan* They basically destroyed their own animation company, so wait and see what they do with our beloved muppets.

[BEAR]

Personally, I think muppet cameos would be distracting. Very distracting. Story is king when it comes to movies. You should have fun while making it, but bear in mind how an audience will react. Some may giggle and find a muppet cameo funny, but to others it may seem tired and unnecessary. I've worked for Dreamworks, Sony, Nickelodeon, Cartoon network, and others. And the temptation to put little jokes and cameos like that in a film or series is a constant. But, if you depend too heavily on that, you lose sight of what makes a show special on it's own rights. My personal opinion, is that it cheapens the story. Fraggle Rock never had to depend on hip cultural references to be cool. It just was.

Oh, and yes, to get the other muppets, Henson would have to negotiate with DISNEY *groan* They basically destroyed their own animation company, so wait and see what they do with our beloved muppets.

So do you think that Big Bird's cameo in The Muppet Movie and/or Oscar's in The Great Muppet Caper were cheap and distracting? I thought they were pretty clever, especially Bird's. Also, with those, there would be no negotiating with Disney, just Sesame Workshop, which probably would not be as exhausting to do.
I will understand what people are saying about having too many celebrities in the Fraggle film though. That could be considered distracting.

[MattFraggle]

No, no, that's not what i'm saying. What I'm saying is it worked for THAT film.

[BEAR]

No, no, that's not what i'm saying. What I'm saying is it worked for THAT film.


Okay, I gotcha. It worked for that film, but you are saying that it would be bad if they just used it as an excuse to expose certain characters? Like just throwing in someone for unecessary eye candy.

[Fozzie Bear]

If they choose celebrities, I hope they choose some that are not the "here-and-now popular" celebrities and will choose people who are more timeless...like good character actors. Christopher Lloyd--everybody knows him, but his performances are timeless; Shirley McClaine...folks like that.

The new, so-called "hip" celebrities are too blah and are fly-by-night stars. They'll be forgotten in 10 years.

[MattFraggle]

Bear in mind also, that Fraggle Rock had ONE human character, with others only implied. Doc felt like a real person to me. Gerry Parkes is an actor. He isn't a more well known celebrity. He's just a GOOD actor. That's what I think the film needs. We've already heard fans saying they didn't want to see precocious children overly featured. So why taint the movie with needless guest stars and celebrity cameos? Yeah, they did it in the muppet movie, but that was an entirely different animal. ( Pun intended )

And personally, I found those cameos distracting, and they definetly DATE the film. When you make a film, you want to make something that people can watch long after it's been released. I would hate to think that after a successful theater and DVD run, our beloved Fraggles find themselves at the bottom of a $2.99 bin at Wal-Mart because the studio chose to spend the budget to attract celebrities instead of focusing on a story.

The fraggles have their own magic. Their own "it". Whatever that is. And they didn't get it by having a celebrity walk onto the stage to thunderous applause. :P

[BEAR]

Mattfraggle, you say the cameos in The Muppet Movie dated the film. I see what you are saying but I don't completely agree. Because when you watch the movie now, those comedian cameos are still funny and wonderful. I could show that movie to my kids someday and it will still be funny because the jokes are timeless. That is why the Muppet Show is so great. Unlike Saturday Night Live the jokes are still funny after 10 or 20 years.

Agree that Fraggle Rock probably should not have a bunch of celebrity cameos because the orig series didn't have celebrities and it might take away from the film. It works for the Muppets because they are seen with celebrities all the time.

[MattFraggle]

Well Bear, I'm just giving my own opinion based on my experience in the business, and from my own personal likes. You're free to disagree.

[BEAR]

Well Bear, I'm just giving my own opinion based on my experience in the business, and from my own personal likes. You're free to disagree.
And I am basing mine on my experience in the business as well as my experience as a human being. I might disagree but I was in no way puting down your ideas either.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

i just want it made

[BEAR]

i just want it made
ME TOO!!:zany:

I don't even think they have started filming at all.

Not to muffin the thread, but i will go off topic for a sec. I just saw the trailer for the new Producers movie and it looks great.
Also read announcements for Santa Clause 3 and Mrs Doubtfire 2 to be made.

[MrsPepper]

Whoever said that their shouldn't be celebrities or cameos, I agree with that.

The only human we ever see is Doc! Mr. Shimmelfinny (graawrl), and the neighbour-lady who's name I forget (and any other human characters that may have been mentioned, though I think they're the only two) are pretty developed characters, and we know alot about them. But we NEVER see them. It's always only Doc. It's because Gerry Parkes is such a good actor that we know things about Mr. Shimmelfinney anyway. Seeing people in the movie would just be kind of bizarre (people in roles that is, not including stuff with Travelling Matt where we have lots of nameless extras) and it wouldn't really go with the magic of the Fraggle universe.

[Evil Muppetman]

Oh man i just got into the Fraggles. I bought the Season one dvd

I hope this will come soon

[Fozzie Bear]

Fraggles ROCK! :)

[BEAR]

Whoever said that their shouldn't be celebrities or cameos, I agree with that.

The only human we ever see is Doc! Mr. Shimmelfinny (graawrl), and the neighbour-lady who's name I forget (and any other human characters that may have been mentioned, though I think they're the only two) are pretty developed characters, and we know alot about them. But we NEVER see them. It's always only Doc. It's because Gerry Parkes is such a good actor that we know things about Mr. Shimmelfinney anyway. Seeing people in the movie would just be kind of bizarre (people in roles that is, not including stuff with Travelling Matt where we have lots of nameless extras) and it wouldn't really go with the magic of the Fraggle universe.


But, Mrs. P, if the plot involves the Fraggles going into "outer space" there needs to be some humans in the cast other than Doc. They don't need to be big name celebrities.

[Kimp the Shrimp]

Jenifer Love Hewitt LOL

[BEAR]

The thing is, if some of the human cast are known actors they should not be ones who would distract from the film because of their name. In other words don't use the celebrities name as a means for press and getting people to see the movie. The actors should be good enough to be able to take on a role that is somewhat secondary or supporting and not play themselves. They should play a character. The girl who played Jenny in Muppets Take Manhattan I think is a nice example of this. She never pulled focus and didn't distract us too much from the stars (Kermit and the Muppets), but she was there just enough.
People complain a lot about MCC, MTI, and MWOO because the star of the Muppet movie was a celebrity and not the Muppets.

[MrsPepper]

Bear, I hadn't finished your post yet and I was thinking, someone like Jenny!

Now, I forget. Does the plot (potentially) involve going into outer space?
You're right then, there will need to be people. But like you said, they should not be the focus **cough MWoO** of the movie.

[BEAR]

Bear, I hadn't finished your post yet and I was thinking, someone like Jenny!

Now, I forget. Does the plot (potentially) involve going into outer space?
You're right then, there will need to be people. But like you said, they should not be the focus **cough MWoO** of the movie.


Right, it can be someone somewhat known maybe, but not overly popular (a la Ben Stiller or Nicole Kidman--God forbid). A newcomer possibly. Who WAS that actress who played Jenny? I don't know how well known she was prior to MTM but I am sure it wasn't much. But someone secondary/supporting. A straight man or foil for the Muppets. That is what worked before

[Evil Muppetman]

http://imdb.com/name/nm0232023/


That was here 1st role, Hey she was in "Dragnet" with Tom Hanks ( Great Movie)


http://imdb.com/title/tt0481649/

Here's also the 2007 Fraggle Rock page

[unclematt]

Bear, I know this is off topic but I just read your quote for the first time and I pictured Jim standing over the sink with Sprocket by his side and I teared up. Great quote!!!

[BEAR]

Bear, I know this is off topic but I just read your quote for the first time and I pictured Jim standing over the sink with Sprocket by his side and I teared up. Great quote!!!


Thanks. That was always my favorite moment from that special. Such a perfect ending. It is quite possibly one of, if not THE greatest quote from any Muppet project, in my personal opinion. He captures the spirit of Jim Henson quite well.

[Muppet Pro]

Who will be Cantus ? :smirk: Probably no one else, right ?

[Muppet Pro]

Wait, Disney's going to help with the film ? Do you think that they'll buy them too ?

[unclematt]

Wait, Disney's going to help with the film ? Do you think that they'll buy them too ?
Where did you see that Disney is going to help with the film?:eek:

[Muppet Pro]

Go to that Imdb Company credits on the "FR 2007 Movie IMDB page" It should say The Jim Henson Company, The Walt Disney Company etc. :)

[unclematt]

I dont think that is correct though. I heard that Disney was not going to be involved with the project at all.

[Muppet Pro]

Maybe it's a typo, maybe Columbia Tristar will possibly do it. :)

[unclematt]

I am almost positive that Disney is not involved.

[Muppet Pro]

Unless they made the dissection last minute. :smirk:

[unclematt]

Unless they made the dissection last minute. :smirk:
I hope they arent dissecting anything.

[Muppet Pro]

Well, I think that Disney's doing pretty good so far. But after seeing Save The Muppets.com, I don't know what to think. I mean, sure you can replace certain voice actors.All you need is their voice and acting skills anyway. But puppeteers are different. Especially Muppeteers (how high in the puppetry biz can you go ?) You have to have not only the soul for the character, voice and personality down. BUT to study the original Muppeteers feelings and opinions of the character. So your not only studying the character, but the performer that originated it. :)

[Muppet Pro]

Thanks. That was always my favorite moment from that special. Such a perfect ending. It is quite possibly one of, if not THE greatest quote from any Muppet project, in my personal opinion. He captures the spirit of Jim Henson quite well.
What quote is that ? :smirk:

[BEAR]

What quote is that ? :smirk:


The quote in my signature.

[Muppet Pro]

Oh YEAH, That's from Muppet Family Christmas. I wash, you dry. LOL :excited:

Yeah, totally. That totally sounds like Jim, I bet he add-libbed that line.
God Bless Him. :)

[unclematt]

I still miss him

[Fozzie Bear]

Indeed...

Jim was a great guy and did lots of great things and was totally under appreciated by a lot of people.

[unclematt]

Indeed...

Jim was a great guy and did lots of great things and was totally under appreciated by a lot of people.
Underapreciated for sure. So glad there is a sight like this where we can show our appreciation. He is one of my heroes and never forget hearing the news that he had passed away.

[spcglider]

Not only does that ideal repules me, but it in no way, shape, form, or fashion, what so ever; resembles what Fraggle Rock was about, or how Fraggle Rock was. Not one bit! In the least! I'm sorry, but I just needed to get that out. Thank you and have a good day.

What about rescuing Uncle Matt isn't like Fraggle Rock? What about fraggles thinking outer space is a weird place is unlike Fraggle Rock? What about fostering a spirit of co-operation between the Fraggles, Doozers and the Gorgs is unlike Fraggle Rock?

I must admit that I posted these thoughts cynically, but what exactly about this is unlike Fraggle Rock? The cameos? Perhaps unlike Fraggle Rock, but a Muppet tradition altogether. Putting Muppets into the real world? Muppet tradition as well.

Fraggle Rock was a children's show. A smart one, but a children's show nonetheless. Don't expect the Fraggles to grow up with you. They won't. They didn't. And that is the best thing about them.

-Gordon

[spcglider]

By the way, I'm not trying to be beligerent (it probably reads like I am and if that's the case, I apologize). Believe me, I'm not actually trying to start an argument! :)

I was originally expressing what I thought would be the most logical direction for the script to take considering all the mitigating factors of making a Fraggle movie some 20 years or so after the fact. The stuff that I wrote was pure speculation... but based upon past models. Looks like i was at least partially right. And it looks like The Fraggles will beat Sid & Marty Krofft to the punch. This movie sounds very similar to what the new H.R. Pufnstuf Movie was supposed to be like. But that stalled.

Someone earlier said that if you want the Muppets to continue to be successful, you have to ALLOW them to try. I agree with that. Even with all the stuff I mentioned in my previous post, if the right script is written the movie will be GOOD. But that's something completely out of our hands.

It appears that this film is under the guidance of REAL Muppet people. Even the bean counters will be Muppet bean counters as far as I can tell. We should be able to trust them to do a good thing. This film will be a true litmus test of the "new guard" at the Jim Henson Company.

-Gordon

[Gorgon Heap]

Surprised no one has mentioned it, but what about the music? Being FR, it should have original songs, right? Do you think it will? Do you think that they'll try to bring back Phil Balsam and Dennis Lee? On a side note, the only Oscar nominations ever accorded to Muppet movies were for music, and that's the best shot this pic would have, also. Oscar for Balsam & Lee! An acceptance speech that thanks Jim Henson!

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Fozzie Bear]

Oh, it DEFINITELY has to have original songs. That's what Fraggles do: Sing and dance.

I get more and more excited thinking about this movie!

[unclematt]

Dance you cares away = music to dance to = singing, fraggles cant resist singing when thier is music

[Muppet Pro]

Whenever they plan the music, It should be done 80s style, music and setting whise. I can't picture FR with pop and rap music. Gosh Forbit. :eek:

[BEAR]

Whenever they plan the music, It should be done 80s style, music and setting whise. I can't picture FR with pop and rap music. Gosh Forbit. :eek:

I agree with what you are saying but I don't think I would even consider the music to be "80s style". It had more of a 60-70s hippie feel to it. But, yes, it should have the same sort of feel that the music always had on the show. I wouldn't mind if they revamped the theme song a little though just to make it fresh. Just a new orchestration.

[unclematt]

I agree with what you are saying but I don't think I would even consider the music to be "80s style". It had more of a 60-70s hippie feel to it. But, yes, it should have the same sort of feel that the music always had on the show. I wouldn't mind if they revamped the theme song a little though just to make it fresh. Just a new orchestration.
I think they shouldnt touch the theme at all. Save the new music for in the movie:smirk:

[BEAR]

I think they shouldnt touch the theme at all. Save the new music for in the movie:smirk:


I didn't mean change the song, I just meant freshen up the orchestration of it. Give it more of a kick. They probably will anyway.

[Beauregard]

I agree that Fraggle singing hip-hop and rap would be the worst thing!

I hope we get a sentimental pipe-played, "Let me be your song," type song in the film.

[Fozzie Bear]

I didn't think about the music in the movie. Yeah, it should open the same way it always has with the same theme song, but updated video.

The music in the show was varied. It wasn't 80's style. They had country, blues, soul, gospel, and so many other types of music. I would HOPE that whoever was involved on the show would be involved here as well and make the music maintain the feel that it always did.

[doozer_girl]

Hey, I have a question. Does anyone know if we can expect any cameo appearances in this film (muppets or famous humans)?

[Gorgon Heap]

Eh, I'm hoping against star cameos- doesn't fit with the original spirit of the show IMO.

However, if they wanted to cast, say Ned Shimmelfinney and Ms. Ardath, that could be interesting. Paging Christopher Plummer! Paging Christopher Plummer! Can't think of anyone for Ms. Ardath, but perhaps someone else here will.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[Fozzie Bear]

I agree. Star-power in Muppet films is lacking these days. They get vogue-popular stars who whither and fade in a few years.

I would rather see a story about the Fraggles and some non-descript cameoes of actors who are not so "popular" and who can actually appear in the movie without that "Hulk Hogan" advertisement we saw in MFS. That stunk.

[BEAR]

I agree. Star-power in Muppet films is lacking these days. They get vogue-popular stars who whither and fade in a few years.

I would rather see a story about the Fraggles and some non-descript cameoes of actors who are not so "popular" and who can actually appear in the movie without that "Hulk Hogan" advertisement we saw in MFS. That stunk.


Yeah like some classy stars like Tom Hanks, Dick Van Dyke, Ellen Degeneres, Billy Crystal, Bill Cosby. I want to see those kinds of people in Muppet films.

[unclematt]

I really feel confident about this project and while I dont feel it will fair well at the box office, I think us true Muppet fans will be beyond satisfied with the project. Although I might be wrong as I didnt think The Wallace and Gromit movie was going to do well either.

[BEAR]

I really feel confident about this project and while I dont feel it will fair well at the box office, I think us true Muppet fans will be beyond satisfied with the project. Although I might be wrong as I didnt think The Wallace and Gromit movie was going to do well either.

I expected it to do okay. Wallace and Gromit seems to be quite a rage these days.

[unclematt]

I expected it to do okay. Wallace and Gromit seems to be quite a rage these days.
I kind of thought the Wallace and Gromit rage was like a few years ago.

[BEAR]

I kind of thought the Wallace and Gromit rage was like a few years ago.

I think that may have been its peak, but people still enjoy it. Its sorta like South Park. It was huge about 5 or so years ago and now its just sorta floating around but still liked by groups.

[unclematt]

I think that may have been its peak, but people still enjoy it. Its sorta like South Park. It was huge about 5 or so years ago and now its just sorta floating around but still liked by groups.
Got ya

[Camellia]

hi, I've been "out of the loop" a little :)

Who owns rights to produce the Fraggles? JHC still or Disney?

thanks! :)
Camellia

[theprawncracker]

JHC still, but HIT! Entertainment owns the rights to realeasing the DVD's and I think the merchandise as well.

[unclematt]

Is this movie definately a go. I dont want to get my hopes up.

[Gorgon Heap]

I'd like to know who's definitely on board among the performers, and also, where it's going to shoot (i.e. Toronto or someplace else). Also gotta wonder if any of the original second tier performers will be back (like Cheryl Wagner, Terry Angus, Rob Mills, Trish Leeper, Gord Robertson, Bob Stutt, John Pattison etc.)

I'm assuming Karen will be on board as she DID come back to voice Red for the "Doin' Things that Doozers Do" DVD trivia game.

I wonder if perhaps Jerry will dub Gobo, Pa, Marjory et al rather than personally puppeteer them. This was done surprisingly often on the show and it's often unnoticeable (like Steve performing Red in the episode "Red's Club", although it's obvious that someone else is performing Boober as the lip-synch doesn't match up).

And Kathy Mullen- where is she now?

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[MWoO]

Kathy Mullen was Leona on BEtween the Lions for season 1 and 2 and was Allegra on Allegras Window, the show on Nick Jr. awhile back. She also did other puppet work, but nothing muppet other than Fraggle Rock which is odd.

According to IMDB all of the original fraggles are listed with their original performers, but of course IMDB is subject to change at all times. But since everyone in the original five is still alive, I don't see why they wouldn't all be back. Jerry did an interview for the season 1 set and he can still do the voices just fine. He must have gotten over that cold or whatever it was that he had for awhile. We know Steve and Dave are VERY active performers and apprently Cathy is an active performer too, just more low key it seems. Karen should be game as well. So expect the original cast unless something horrible happens, and I hope it doesn't. The only recast will of course be Jr. Gorg, assuming they even use Junior.

I'm not really sure if I want Junior recast. It might be best to just not use his character for this one. Of course since the movie is suppose to take palce in the "real" world it might be cool to see a giant Junior Gorg stomping down the street running after fraggles. I just hope they don't dramitically change the sets and puppets. Sprucing them up for a movie would be nice, but no weird changes that sometimes happen when a TV show goes the movie route.

[Gorgon Heap]

Forgot about Allegra.

David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole

[unclematt]

Do we have an expected release date?

[BEAR]

Do we have an expected release date?


My guess would be sometime in 2007.

[unclematt]

My guess would be sometime in 2007.
Thats so far away.:(

[BEAR]

Thats so far away.:(


I know, but it takes atleast a year to make a feature film and I don't think they have even started shooting yet.

[Monster]

I am an artist for Sesame Street and i was just at a party celebrating Jerry Nelson- but I forgot to ask him if he is DEFINITELY going to play Gobo and Pa Gorg and The Trash Heap again. Does anyone know what the story is on this?

[Fozzie Bear]

I really do hope Jerry comes back. On the audio CD for "It's Not Easy Bein' Green and Other Things To Consider," he does Gobo's voice, and I recognized it immediately! I thought, "How nice it will be for him to return to performing Gobo!"

I've said it a million times and I'll continue to say it: I love Jerry, he's the best, and I think it would be awesome to just go hang out and go partying with the man!! LOL!

[Muppet Pro]

I think they shouldnt touch the theme at all. Save the new music for in the movie:smirk:

Who are those guys who composed the music for FG ? They should get them back in. :)

[Fozzie Bear]

I hope they get EVERYONE they can back on board for the movie. Maybe a new franchise will even open up and a new series for the Fraggles!!!

[unclematt]

I recieved season 1 for Christmas and I have bee enthralled with it. What a great program with well defined characters, even in the early stages.

[muppetwriter]

I recieved season 1 for Christmas and I have bee enthralled with it. What a great program with well defined characters, even in the early stages.

I also got the first season for Christmas this year and characters like Gobo, Wembley, Mokey, and Red are indeed well-defined, which makes this one of the greatest Jim Henson shows ever to be released on television.

I just hope that production for this movie turns out alright. The idea of a Fraggle Rock movie sounds as brilliant as the show's concept.:excited: