Kermit's Family

[Animals Mom]

This may be well-known and if it is, then i apologise, but I really don't remember.

There is a Muppet Babies episode where baby Robin comes to stay when he is just a tadpole, if Robin is Kermit's nephew, what about the rest of the family? This means that Kermit must have a brother or sister? Does anyone know anything about this?

Again, apologies if I am being daft, but this was really bugging me this morning :confused:

[Katzi428]

This may be well-known and if it is, then i apologise, but I really don't remember.

There is a Muppet Babies episode where baby Robin comes to stay when he is just a tadpole, if Robin is Kermit's nephew, what about the rest of the family? This means that Kermit must have a brother or sister? Does anyone know anything about this?

Again, apologies if I am being daft, but this was really bugging me this morning :confused:
Hi!
You're not being daft. :) To the best of my knowledge, in Muppet Babies "Nanny" mentioned that Kermit's sister was Robin's mother. (The sister was never seen though)

[ReneeLouvier]

Wow, that also cleared up a bit of a confusion for myself as well. Thanks. :)

[Xerus]

I remember in Kermit's Swamp Years, Kermit had over a hundred brothers and sisters.

I wonder if this means Robin might have that many brothers and sisters as well?

[TogetherAgain]

well according to an interview I read, kermit is one of 3,924 children. which would mean he has 3,923 brothers and sisters.

and as for Kermits Swamp Years. Xerus, I'm assuming you're referring to the behind the scene stuff? "And there's yoyo, and yaya, and yeeyee, and- wha? oh, well see mom and dad were kinda running out of names by then.":) I liked that.

[Xerus]

well according to an interview I read, kermit is one of 3,924 children. which would mean he has 3,923 brothers and sisters.

and as for Kermits Swamp Years. Xerus, I'm assuming you're referring to the behind the scene stuff? "And there's yoyo, and yaya, and yeeyee, and- wha? oh, well see mom and dad were kinda running out of names by then.":) I liked that.

Yeah, that's what I remember. :) And I guess Kermit has way more than 100 siblings. But I'm glad I got to see what Kermit's mom was like. :)

[Beauregard]

I remember in Kermit's Swamp Years, Kermit had over a hundred brothers and sisters.

I wonder if this means Robin might have that many brothers and sisters as well?
Robin is a nephew.

[Skeeter Muppet]

Robin is a nephew.

What Xerus meant, Beau, was that Robin might have AS MANY brothers and sisters as Kermit. Not that Robin was one of Kermit's siblings.

-Kim

[Beauregard]

*smackes head*

Gish and kidneys....how true. And yet only one of them followed his uncle into show-biz. I wonder if all his Bros and sisters despice him for that?

[The Count]

And yet... In the Bernadette Peters TMS episode, there's a bit of dialogue that throws this into even more confusion.

Kermit: I have this nice little song for you to sing Robin.
Robin: I'm Five??? I won't do it. I'll call my agent! I'll call my lawyer!
Kermit: I'll call your father!
Robin: I'll go to my room and learn this cute little number.
Kermit, after Robin leaves and looking into the camera: I knew he'd see it my way.

And is Kermit's Mom actually seen in KSY? From what I've come to understand, only the back of her head was partially visible. Unless you're talking about the makers of the TV movie bringing in the character of Kermit's Mom into the special as a new character. Then I'd understand what you meant by "seeing" her.
Hope this helps.

[TogetherAgain]

I don't see how that dialogue confuses things, but... ok!
I've REALLY gotta see that episode... <sigh>

[The Count]

Well... Think about it a little.
If Robin were the son of Kermit's sister, why would he threaten Robin into doing the musical number by calling the little frog's dad?
Wouldn't he have just threatened to call his sister?

And then, what if the reason of the threat is cause Robin's Kermit's nephew by means of this "father" who would be a brother to Kermit?
Just something for you guys to think about as it messes with your minds.

[Katzi428]

Well... Think about it a little.
If Robin were the son of Kermit's sister, why would he threaten Robin into doing the musical number by calling the little frog's dad?
Wouldn't he have just threatened to call his sister?

And then, what if the reason of the threat is cause Robin's Kermit's nephew by means of this "father" who would be a brother to Kermit?
Just something for you guys to think about as it messes with your minds.
Hmmm....maybe Kermit has a good relationship with his brother in law (Robin's mom's husband) :confused:
Then again,"Muppet Babies" was made severl years after "TMS" & the company forgot the episode of "TMS" where Kermit threatened to call Robin's dad.
(just a thought...I'm brainstorming here)

[The Count]

Good guess Kath. Let's just agree that within MB mythos, it is Kermit's sister who is Robin's mom.
Besides, MB was meant to stand on its own apart from the rest of the Muppets cannon anyway. And believe you me, you'd want those Muppet Babies to stand well apart from that cannon, especially should Crazy Harry or Gonzo find it and light the fuse.

However, as for one last bit of mind-messing... Remember the episode titled "The Incredible Shrinking Weirdo"?
Well, there was a scene there with grown-up Kermit in front of the theater's red curtains introducing Gonzo, and then we see Kermit (the real Kermit) talking to a cartoon Baby Gonzo dressed up in tux and trying to stand up on his eggbeater for his act.

[unclematt]

I highly doubt they cross referenced the two shows

[Beauregard]

Well, I for one go with the beleive that Kermit's Brother is Robin's Father, a veiw I hold in my fan-fic, "Robin's Story" : http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=20220

Although I do not know the true inentity of Robin's father, for the purposes of my story he is called Jimmy, both a reerence to Jim Henson, and a reference to Jim and Jane's split, since this story is about Robin's parents getting a divorse.

Bea:zany:{Yes, this is a shameless plug for my excellent, fantastic, brillient, adorable, cute, sad, sentimental, sad, yet happy, and totally muppitational Robin's Story)regard

[McFraggle]

Poor Robin. Maybe Sweetums adopted him. :smirk:

[Vic Romano]

well according to an interview I read, kermit is one of 3,924 children. which would mean he has 3,923 brothers and sisters.
According to my encyclopedia; Frogs can lay as many as 4,000 eggs in frogspawn, but many of them may not make it to adulthood (or even hatch) due to predators. So I guess that interview could be relatively accurate.

[Beauregard]

Well...*cough*...that depends on your definition of accurate Vic....*snigger*

Bea:zany:{Well...it made me laugh anyway...}regard

[minor muppetz]

just because kermit threatened to tell robins father does not mean that his father is kermits brother. maybe robins father is tougher than his mother?

[Kimp the Shrimp]

whats up w/ his stepson LOL

[Beakerfan]

My take on it is that usually, in older sitcoms & whatnot, the father was the one that made the major decisions considering the sons and that the father would give a harsher punishment than the mother. Also, I think that "your father" was the best script choice because it would allow the audience to understand who Kermit was talking about.

[Beauregard]

If he'd said, "Your Mother" people would have thought...."I thought Kermit was the Uncle not the Father...."

[Beakerfan]

Totally! I think that makes more sense than what I suggested.....

[TogetherAgain]

Still, he could have said "I'll call your parents", and not specified which one. Then there would have been no confusion as to Kermit being the uncle, and it would have allowed Robin's mom to be Kermit's sister. Personally, I think Robin is Kermit's brother's son, and Muppet Babies is some random tangent of muppet history that doesn't exist. Er, that is, Muppet Babies exists, but not as a part of genuine muppet history... er... something like that. I'm confusing myself. Just ignore me for a bit...

[DTF]

Here's the thing, though - I agree w/"your father" causing less confusion and also it tying in with older sitcoms w/the dad generally being tougher. But, the thing i, we never see either of Robin's parents.

I suspect it's possible Robin's mother died. Kermit might actually take care of Robin quite a bit, which is why we see him there so often. It would explain why we never see eitehr parent.

Or, Robin's dad moved in with his brother-in-law, and his best friend also came to help raise Robin and a couple siblings...no, wait, that's FUll House :-) (Besides, Kermit be3ing in show biz/comedy would be in the best friend role then.) But, I did have thaat idea as the episodes rolled on and we saw Robin more but never the parents, that Robin's mom was dead & Kermit helped raise him. Because tthat was sort of a staple of some sitcoms, a widower raising kids. ("Full House" was a rare one because they actually referred to the deceased mother and acted like she had once existed.)

No, I will not have time for a fanfic involving Robin's mother's death. Yes, you may steal the idea if you wish. :-)