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Muppets1985
08-14-2002, 01:51 PM
Helloooooo all and hope EVERY one here haz had a great day!?! any ways I JUST got some GREAT news from Disney store & From Disney (there e-mail) and I asked them If the DVD of The MUppet christmas Carol WILL be in Widescreen, and they sayed YES! it WILL be (Yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!) and It will NOT be Pan & Scan like the MTI DVD. The email told me that the Fullscreen thing was just a test on a few Disney movies, but they all so sayed that they got a LOT on complants on some "Disney classics" beening P&S soooo... I hope i made EVERYs day! and here to looking for ward on the MCC DVD!. I know I am!





Latter... °o° :D :) :p

grail
08-14-2002, 02:47 PM
this makes me happy...now if we can just get a widescreen on MTI too...

gymkatarules
08-14-2002, 05:30 PM
Ahem...ahem...*clears throat*...*stretches*...*cracks knuckles*...okay...ready...

...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Chris

Cantus Rock
08-14-2002, 10:23 PM
WooHoo!! That does Rock quite hard. Awesome news, thanks much for posting! :)

-Matt

Jackie
08-15-2002, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Muppets1985
Helloooooo all and hope EVERY one here haz had a great day!?! any ways I JUST got some GREAT news from Disney store & From Disney (there e-mail) and I asked them If the DVD of The MUppet christmas Carol WILL be in Widescreen, and they sayed YES! it WILL be (Yeahhhhhhhhh!!!!) and It will NOT be Pan & Scan like the MTI DVD. The email told me that the Fullscreen thing was just a test on a few Disney movies, but they all so sayed that they got a LOT on complants on some "Disney classics" beening P&S soooo... I hope i made EVERYs day! and here to looking for ward on the MCC DVD!. I know I am!





Latter... °o° :D :) :p

Can you post the email?

DarthGonzo
08-15-2002, 10:59 AM
YES!!! Thank flippin' goodness.

So...are we gettin MTI in widescreen anytime soon?

Not to veer offcourse or anything, but what makes you so sure Di$ney is going to get the Muppets, Muppets1985? I'd rather they dont, since I know it means lots and lots of direct to video sequals to things that didnt need sequals in the first place. At the very least, the Muppets will get alot of exposure, but will it be the good kind of exposure? Who knows, but sometimes I just wish the Henson company had enough funds so that they didnt need to be bought by anyone else to be able to function to their fullest extent.

Ok, I'm gonna get trounced badly for this, but why Muppets85, do you find it necessary in every post to find a way to make it clear that you feel that the Muppets' one and only place in the universe is with Di$ney? Oh well...

Cantus Rock
08-15-2002, 01:48 PM
Oooooohhh!! Fight fight fight fight!!! :D

Heh, sorry.

I agree somewhat with you Darth. I think that there just isn't a need for a MTI sequal...at least not the way Disney does them. Prime example, look at Tarzan. In my opinion, a very, very excellent film. Well made with a heartfelt message. Now, look at the sequal. I watched a bit while I was shopping in Wal-Mart. Oh lord, how aweful. Now see, Disney does these bang-up movies for a quick buck. If the Muppets were Disney, I could only imagine how bad the performers would feel spitting out these inane Disney lines :(

-Matt

frogboy4
08-15-2002, 02:22 PM
Hmmm...wonder if anyone can figure where I stand on the widescreen issue. LMAO! :) This makes for a very happy frogboy!

Now, I find it funny that the film that needed the widescreen treatment the most didn't receive it. MCC wasn't shot nearly as "wide" as MTI. I'm kind of miffed that Disney would choose to experiment on one of the films in the Muppet series jipping us a legitimate widescreen version to match the other 5, but that's been done and there's nothing we can do about it. It is very good news for this one! I just hope that there will be a "collector's edition" of MTI later on - maybe they could package it with MCC.

On the topic for a sequel to MTI - no way. The films are where the Muppets can really shine and a sequel to a remake of a remake is not that impressive. The Muppets can do better. Still beats the Swamp Years premise for straight to video, but I have higher standards for Muppet product than Disney fare.

towels
08-15-2002, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by frogboy4
I have higher standards for Muppet product than Disney fare.

Well, you may, but do the merchandisers at Disney?

frogboy4
08-15-2002, 04:01 PM
Has to go through Henson too, and I think Disney is Treasure Island out with the Treasure Planet film coming out.

Cantus Rock
08-15-2002, 09:02 PM
Eww lord, doesn't treasure planet look horrible? It looks like a futuristic animated version of Blue Crush (which also looks to be an amazingly horrid piece of garbage flick).

Sorry, off topic yet again :)

-Matt

frogboy4
08-15-2002, 09:08 PM
Can't quite speak for it yet. Some looks interesting, some looks too trendy.

Cantus Rock
08-15-2002, 09:31 PM
Well, I'll have to see it I guess. I'm just really not into "INSANE TRICKED OUT TURBO CHARGED AIR BOARDS!!!" WOOOOO PARTY HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry...that kind of thing sickens me...oh well, I like to think that idiot surfers become fat old guys who feel sad about their lives...cool surfers become Brandon Boyd of Incubus! :D

-Matt

frogboy4
08-15-2002, 09:56 PM
<<cool surfers become Brandon Boyd of Incubus!>>

LOL! :)

scarecroe
08-15-2002, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by Cantus Rock
Blue Crush (which also looks to be an amazingly horrid piece of garbage flick).So I take it you don't surf? :p

Cantus Rock
08-15-2002, 10:37 PM
Oh no no Scarecroe, its not that I don't like surfing. I mean, I think certain people get a bit stupid about it (surfing 120 foot waves is not insane...its just quite dumb, and often ends in fatality. There are rare instances, but on the whole, I don't associate voluntary life-threatening acts with intelligence :)). But have you seen the previews?! Listen to these kids! They say every line in that cheesy, wannabe-hardcore bad acting voice. And the whole premiss just looks dumb (a girl beating guys at surfing...so?).

I don't surf (Florida waves are only big during hurricanes, and like I said I don't volunteer to die usually), but I don't have any problems with it. The only gripe I have is, the people. From the little the Blue Crush promo showed me...teenage EXTREME surfers are idiots...no offense intended :)

-Matt

Jeffrey Gray
08-16-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by frogboy4
Now, I find it funny that the film that needed the widescreen treatment the most didn't receive it. MCC wasn't shot nearly as "wide" as MTI.

Actually...they were both shot at 1.33:1, intended for a theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1. The unmatted 1.33:1 versions of any Muppet movie are unuseable, since (as the original video of The Muppet Movie shows) puppeteers usually appear at the bottom of the frame, so the best aspect ratio they can appear in (showing the most information from the complete frame without revealing the puppeteers) is 1.78:1/1.85:1. No Muppet movie has been filmed at any aspect ratio wider than that.

Cantus Rock
08-16-2002, 12:15 AM
Thanks for that info Jeff...that reminds (and clarifies) this one time at the movies.

I forget what movie it was, but the film was just slightly lower than it should have been, and so we saw the hanging microphone (ya know, the furry-looking gray colored one) in every scene to follow. Interesting.

Heck, I'd like to see the versions with the Puppeteers hands!!! :D

-Matt

frogboy4
08-16-2002, 12:39 AM
<<they were both shot at 1.33:1, intended for a theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1>>

I heard different from a source at the puppet guild and less information seems squished into the MCC cropped VHS so I took it as fact. I really don't see the logic of not shooting in 1.85:1 to begin with, but that's a subject I will raise at the next meeting - or dinner afterwards. LOL. As a student of film I am very curious of this. Maybe he was refering to the same thing that you are - that it was shot 1:33:1 with the bottom sliced to hide the "sock". If this is true of MTI, I don't see why they didn't use some of that footage for other shots that the sock was less evident.

Thog
08-16-2002, 09:32 AM
I would not trust what the people at the Disney Store say. Especially about MCC. I reall don't think that they would know. I worked there and we were never given specifics of the DVDs coming out. I think the person at the store just guessed. But thats just my opinion.
Can you post the email you received? I'm not doubting it, but it would be nice to see for assurance.

Dan

Jeffrey Gray
08-16-2002, 11:27 AM
Frogboy, they do it that way because, when shooting at 1.85:1, it's more expensive to shoot hard-matted (with black bars on the negative). So they shoot at the more squarish aspect ratio of 1.33:1, and cut off the top and bottom (which, most of the time, are never intended to be seen).

Muppets1985
08-16-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Thog
I would not trust what the people at the Disney Store say. Especially about MCC. I reall don't think that they would know. I worked there and we were never given specifics of the DVDs coming out. I think the person at the store just guessed. But thats just my opinion.
Can you post the email you received? I'm not doubting it, but it would be nice to see for assurance.

Dan


Yes heres the e-mail guys...


*** Dear Stevie Baker,

We thank you for you intrest in our DVD release of The Muppet Christmas Carol. We do have plans to release this DVD as Widescreen 1.66:1. Be shure to check out for the Special Features of Never Before Seen, Footege.



Thank you for your comments,

The Walt Disney Comapany



visit us at, www.Disney.com***

Jackie
08-16-2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Muppets1985



Yes heres the e-mail guys...


*** Dear Stevie Baker,

We thank you for you intrest in our DVD release of The Muppet Christmas Carol. We do have plans to release this DVD as Widescreen 1.66:1. Be shure to check out for the Special Features of Never Before Seen, Footege.



Thank you for your comments,

The Walt Disney Comapany



visit us at, www.Disney.com***


YAY!!!

towels
08-16-2002, 05:20 PM
I always thought the plural of footage would be feetage!
:D

Any of the DVD sites giving any info on this yet? (Perhaps as to the nature of the additional material?)

Traveling Matt
08-16-2002, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Frogboy4
LMAO!
Pardon the ignorance of moi, but what does this stand for?

*sheepishly hits "Submit Reply"*

- Billy :cool:

frogboy4
08-16-2002, 07:51 PM
Laughing My A Off!:)

Traveling Matt
08-16-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Frogboy4
Laughing My A Off!
Ahhh...thanks Jamie!

- Billy :cool:

Zack the Dog
08-25-2002, 11:43 PM
Waho, wait, wait a minute here,

i thought Sure was spelled "sure"?
The Disney Company misspelled this? with "shure"?

Zack)Rowlf the, what do i know about spelling anyways? i'm only a, Dog.

Stulz
08-26-2002, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by Cantus Rock
that reminds (and clarifies) this one time at the movies.

I forget what movie it was, but the film was just slightly lower than it should have been, and so we saw the hanging microphone (ya know, the furry-looking gray colored one) in every scene to follow

That would be a Boom Microphone.

I saw the same thing during "Nurse Betty".. and I saw it with a theater full of film students.. Every Body saw that thing.. It was Hilarious!!

Muppets1985
08-26-2002, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Zack the Dog
Waho, wait, wait a minute here,

i thought Sure was spelled "sure"?
The Disney Company misspelled this? with "shure"?

Zack)Rowlf the, what do i know about spelling anyways? i'm only a, Dog.



Yeahhhh I seen that too,.... i don't know!?? LOL:D

Stulz
08-26-2002, 08:32 AM
Did Disney mention anything about re-releasing MTI in widescreen as well??

MCC DVD - Deleted Scenes??? Hope we finallt get to see "Room in Your Heart" and "Chairman of The Board"

gymkatarules
08-26-2002, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Jeffrey Gray


...the best aspect ratio they can appear in (showing the most information from the complete frame without revealing the puppeteers) is 1.78:1/1.85:1. No Muppet movie has been filmed at any aspect ratio wider than that.

That's if you're not counting The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth, which were both filmed at 2.35:1.

-Chris

Jeffrey Gray
08-26-2002, 01:58 PM
I'm not counting them, Gymkata, because they weren't Muppet movies. They were Jim Henson movies.

Ryan
08-26-2002, 02:22 PM
Actually, in Henson's Place, Jim says he considers them Muppets, but Muppets with a different look and feel. He said there was areas he could'nt deal with with the TMS Muppets, but it would work with new ones.

gymkatarules
08-26-2002, 02:37 PM
Muppet = marionette + puppet. That would include, I'd say, most every cast member of The Dark Crystal, not to mention Labyrinth. I'm sure Jim thought of them as Muppets just like any other. Sorry to beat a dead horse, or even to argue about it. I hope I'm not arguing.

-Chris :(