Fraggle Rock DVD Petition

[Warrick]

Hey ,
A Fraggle Rock DVD Petition has begun.

Please sign the Petition and send this on to your friends and family and ask them to sign it too !

I really think that we can do this, But we need alot of signatures and support !

Fraggle Rock DVD Petition (http://www.angelfire.com/super2/fragglerock0/Entrance.html)

Thank You

[Traveling Matt]

I will most DEFINATELY sign, my man! ;)

Thanks for putting one up; hopefully, Fraggle DVDs or something like it will be released by Henson for the 20th anniversary next year.

- Billy :cool:

[Warrick]

Hey,
I hope this works !

The 20th Anniversary is this year...

See ya

[Wembley]

Hmmm...

When I clicked on it, I got a "bandwidth exceeded" message...

Woops!

-Rick

[KPrell]

Hey folks, check out Warrick's petition if you haven't already. Jessie Hart wrote a lovely statement to go with the petition. I've spread the word among friends who like the show and even folks who worked on it.

All these surveys and petitions are helpful so that folks at Henson's (and any future owners of the company) can see how people feel about Fraggle Rock. There are some very nice messages on the petition already.

Thanks Warrick and Jessie! And thanks to those who've signed it already!

Karen Prell

ps - excuse my lo-res avatar (if it works at all). I'll get a better one soon.

[Traveling Matt]

Hey Karen!

Nice to see you've made it over to the new board.

Thanks for signing the petition! I noticed that Terry Angus and
Joey Mazzarino have signed as well.

Take care!

- Billy :cool:

[Jessie]

I am so excited about our petition! It's only been up for one day and already 48 signatures including puppeteers themselves. I really hope this works! :0)
*Is still in awe that Karen Prell has typed my screen name* LOL

[KPrell]

Hi Jessie!

Gosh, don't be too in awe - I spelled your name wrong. That's Jessie HEART who wrote the petition statement, ladies and gentlemen!

And hey, I updated my avatar and it changed the los-res image on my old message. Cool! (Maybe this is not news to most folks here but I'm still thrilled that this techie stuff works at all.)

Looks like we're up to 51 signatures. Thanks for all the wonderful messages! Any Fraggle cast and crew that check this out will enjoy all those thoughts very much.

Karen

[Phillip Chapman]

A link to the Fraggle DVD petition also went up on the front of our site earlier this evening. Brought back our old "Bring Back the Magic" button from several years ago.

If everyone does what they can to promote this it will make a difference.

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

I'm #70!! :D

[Drtooth]

I am pleased to tell you that I have signed as well!

[Wembley]

Okay... I tried again this morning and it worked! Looks like last night your site was so popular that Angelfire stopped it for a few hours...

Anyway, I signed it (#84) and lets hope we see some DVDs!

-Rick

[Warrick]

Hey Guys,
Thanks so much for signing !

Like Phil said if everyone promotes this it will be a hit, A HIT !

Emmy and Jackie are making Posters and putting them around their colleges to promote it!
Thats what i call real Fans !!

And remember to send the adress -
www.PetitionOnline.com/Fraggle

To anyone and everyone you know, And make posters and spread em everywhere and add links to it on your site !

Oh and Rob Mills (Junior Gorg) has also signed it and sent in a story, Its in the 'Memories' section !

Thanks Guys !

[EmmyMik]

Warrick, this rocks!

Fraggle Rock deserves to be out there!

[Warrick]

Hey Guys,
You will never believe what i just got !

An Email from Jerry Juhl, He said he would love to see Fraggle Rock available on DVD too !!

Karen,
Thank you so much for passing the URL onto him !

Thanks

[Traveling Matt]

Neat news Warrick...

It's nice that your thoughts are spreading like wildfire. I saw that Jerry's wife Susan had signed, so I figured he found out as well at some point.

Take care!

- Billy :cool:

[matleo]

did you see who was signature 180?? Lotsa good people on this petition.

Also you kind of have to apprecaiet the comedian who signed 161 (I think hat's the one I was looking at.

--Matt

[Drtooth]

This is amazing! COme on people. Spread the word! Maybe, by the end of the week, we'll get well over three hundered.

[Warrick]

Thanks Guys !

Yeah Jerry Nelson, Susan Juhl, Karen Prell, Joey Mazzaerino, Robert Mills, Terry Angus and so many fans !!

I thought maybe 'Travelling Matt' at #161 could maybe be Dave !
Im gonna try and find out !

Remember Spread The Word -
www.PetitionOnline.com/Fraggle

Thanks !

See ya

[DaViD Boulet]

I've spread news of this petition to other sites like the hometheaterforum.com site which has lots of muppet fans:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65781

BTW,

Those of you signing the Fraggle Rock Petition,

PLEASE PLEASE make it clear you want the complete series on DVD and that you want the episodes in order of release.

If we don't make this point clear, we just might get our Fraggle Rock DVD in the same "best of" or "highlights" variety that we have to put up with now for the Muppet Show and South Park.

We don't want that :(

So sign it...and in your comment let Henson know you want them ALL and you want them in ORDER!!!

Go to it champs :)

[Warrick]

Glad to see you made it over here !

Keep spreading the word!

See ya

[Jessie]

Hey guys, more from the Fraggles on DVD united front--
Does anyone happen to know Fraggle Fans from other countries? We're trying to hit as many as possible: Warrick has England and he has friend who is spreading the word in Holland, but it would be great if we could get the news spreading other places. I tried emailing some Fraggle Fans from France and Germany but that didn't go over too well--I think my rusty french didn't make sense to my correspondant and I don't think I got a word of German right. If anyone can help, it would be great. :0)

--"Junior! Real men don't watch souffles!"--

[EmmyMik]

Originally posted by JessieHeart
Hey guys, more from the Fraggles on DVD united front--
Does anyone happen to know Fraggle Fans from other countries? We're trying to hit as many as possible: Warrick has England and he has friend who is spreading the word in Holland, but it would be great if we could get the news spreading other places. I tried emailing some Fraggle Fans from France and Germany but that didn't go over too well--I think my rusty french didn't make sense to my correspondant and I don't think I got a word of German right. If anyone can help, it would be great. :0)

--"Junior! Real men don't watch souffles!"--

I'm workin' on Ohio. I know that's not another country, but I only have so much sidewalk chalk...

:p

[Warrick]

Hey,
The friend in Holland is Joggy !

Oh and guys today we hit the 300 entries !!

Everytime we get another Hundred Entries im adding something else to the site !

There are Coloring Pages and Music in the 'Fraggle Fun' section and im gonna be adding more to the 'Memories' Section !!

Keep on spreading the word !

see ya

[pezbalubah]

Yeah! I got to be the 300th person! I'm glad to see it's going so well so far, hopefully it works!

[Jessie]

LOL, Ohio can count as another country. :0) Just out of curiosity, what's the difference between a "member" and a "junior member"?

[EmmyMik]

Originally posted by JessieHeart
LOL, Ohio can count as another country. :0) Just out of curiosity, what's the difference between a "member" and a "junior member"?

Members have too much free time on their hands, and Junior Members are either new or have a life (and thus it takes them longer to reach the 30th magical post, which suddenly turns you into a Member).

And that's about all I know...

:p

[KPrell]

Well, my husband Mike just went off to the Pittsburgh Comicon ( http://www.pittsburghcomicon.com ) armed with a pile of little leaflets I printed up promoting the Fraggle DVD petition (and Muppet Central, by the way). He says that every time he does a convention several people get excited to hear he worked on UK Fraggles and then they inevitably say they wish Fraggle Rock was available again. So, these folks will no doubt be all over the petition.

I'll bring some leaflets to a few more puppet, sci-fi and fantasy events coming up soon and I've even spread the word to friends at Pixar.

This is fun!

Karen

[Wembley]

Hmmm...

That would be cool if Pixar would work with JHC on some new Fraggle project... Of course, it would still be puppetry, but Pixar could do some backgrounds or CGI stuff to make the Fraggle Five visit even more new magical places!

-Rick "Wembley" Miller
..."You can NOT leave the magic!"

[DaViD Boulet]

Oh my Gosh...THE Karen Prell has posted in the same thread that I'm posting in...I feel *so* cool right now I can hardly stand it :)

Karen, Just so ya know I (like thousands of others who've said the same thing I'm sure) have had my life changed for the better by Fraggle Rock and your character Red Fraggle. Red and Mokey are THE BEST.

I've got the 2 out-of-print Fraggle LP albums and play "Our Melody" and "Music box" on a regular basis ;)

I'm REALLY hoping that in addition to getting the Fraggle Episodes on DVD (all of them, in order) that as "extras" on the DVD they can include the songs...the *studio* mixes which sound incredible and have amazing audio fidelity. I'm hoping they'll go 20/48 PCM for the music-only-extras (2.0 DD sounds so thin and anemic, especially for stereo music on DVD). Wouldn't THAT be cool? Imagine having the WHOLE Fraggle Music collection on the same DVDs with the episodes! Ok...so I'm a hopeless dreamer. I can almost see a world of harmony...

Hey guys...how do you get these cool little pictures by your names? I was going to go for Red but since Karen (obviously) uses that maybe I should go for something else. Is Mokey or Wembley taken?

-dave

[Drtooth]

Let's not stop at DVD!!! Let's see them rerelease videos, as well!

[Luke]

Hey David,

While your enthusiasm is much appreciated i think it's the wrong thing to do to explicitly tell them that you want the whole thing in season by season format and NOT 'Best Of' compilations.

First off, it's usually best not to tell media people how to do their jobs, (cos they are cranky - LOL) but more importantly - what happens if the Henson company had some distributor who wanted to release a compilation DVD and not go the whole hog and support a release of the whole 98 episodes.

If that happened, and Henson looked at the petition and saw that out of say 5 thousand signatures, 50% had specifically said they do not want a compilation and will ONLY buy a season by season box set - well then they might just think it isn't worth the bother and you'd end up with no Fraggle DVD at all.

I think it's important to show that you give your support for a Fraggle DVD and mention that PREFERABLY you'd like them to be in a boxed set - but you'd buy ANY Fraggle DVD in a heartbeat !

Just my two cents,

[Jessie]

I kinda agree with you on that one. When I was writting the letter thing, I did some research on petitions and they said the best ones state what they want, why they want it, but most importantly they state the latter two in a non-threatening way. If you tell someone what you want, you end up making demands and it puts them on the defensive. So perhaps it would be best if we "suggested" or said "we would appreciate any DVD's but my preference is, etc." :0) But those are just my 2 cents and who knows what they are actually worth. :0)

[Warrick]

Hey Guys,
Today we reached 400 Entries !!

Keep spreating the word !!

www.PetitionOnline.com/Fraggle

See ya

[DaViD Boulet]

While your enthusiasm is much appreciated i think it's the wrong thing to do to explicitly tell them that you want the whole thing in season by season format and NOT 'Best Of' compilations.


If it was clear that there was a strong demand for the entire series...then the marketing department would try to take advantage of the opportunity.

First off, it's usually best not to tell media people how to do their jobs, (cos they are cranky - LOL)

media people are releasing Muppet Treasure Island in Pan and Scan only. Media people decided that "The Last Emperor" didn't need a new transfer and the old sub-standard (horrid looking) laserdisc master would do just fine for DVD. Media people decided that no one wanted Ben Hur on DVD until fans petitioned the studio. Media people tried to give us a full-frame only Willy Wonka.
Sounds to me like Media people should listen to the people who love and buy their products.

but more importantly - what happens if the Henson company had some distributor who wanted to release a compilation DVD and not go the whole hog and support a release of the whole 98 episodes.

Hopefully, being informed that the fan base take their Fraggle series seriously...they'd find another distributor.

if that happened, and Henson looked at the petition and saw that out of say 5 thousand signatures, 50% had specifically said they do not want a compilation and will ONLY buy a season by season box set - well then they might just think it isn't worth the bother and you'd end up with no Fraggle DVD at all.

Is this serious? If anything, we might have a healthy delay while the right distributor was found. If Henson took our desires seriously enough not to release them in chopped-up best of collections, then knowing how strong the desire of the collector was, they'd do what they could to get the product out knowing how strong the demand was. I'd rather wait and have it done right than get a shoddy incomplete product that then is the only DVD incarnation we're offered.

What we do NOT want is for people just to sound like generic fraggle fans and have a "test" DVD compliation released...with some themed collection or something...and then end up only getting 10 or 20 episodes.

Just look at the travesty surrounding the South Park DVDs right now. Rhino was releasing the complete series...season by season. Then they sold the rights to Warner. Warner's marketing department said "oh, this is a cartoon...cartoons are for kids...kids don't care about things like "seasons" so we'll just release some cute little compilation discs."

The South Part Collectors have been petitioning Warner with mail and every campaing imaginable...but to no avail.

I do NOT want this to happen with Fraggle Rock. It's already happend with the Muppet shows. We're the fans and we deserve the entire series. Anything less is NOT acceptable.

If we have to wait a few years for the "right" company to come along and liscense the product then that's what we should do. We shouldn't have a shoddy and incomplete product that's pandered down just because the first company who wants to liscense the rights doesn't care about doing justice to the art of this series.

If we let the stuido know how important it is for us to have the complete series in order of release, we're only helping the Fraggle fan. It only goes to show the studio just how much demand there is for this wonderful series and how much the fans really care about it.

I want them all. I want them in order. I'm going to tell Henson so they don't make the terrible mistake of just releasing a few small "collections" discs which serves no-one's interest but the casual viewer.

-dave

[Luke]

I know you are passionate about this but it isn't like Henson have companies lining up at their door to release Fraggle Rock on DVD - i'm just worried that if compilations aren't acceptable then you are unlikely to ever see Fraggle Rock on DVD.

I think we have to face facts here - they need to press 100,000 discs to release something on a big scale in the shops, a boxed set of one season would cost say $30/40'ish and the show totalled over 100 episodes. Don't you think thats a big risk for them ? I mean they haven't even done this for TMS, Bear or even 'The Hoobs' - all have compilation releases. I really don't see it happening with Fraggle Rock.

Henson KNOW that there are a small group of dedicated passionate fans who would buy full season sets in a second - it's the same 500 fans who are signing the DVD Petition and there are probably 10,000 more who might be tempted in the shops, but it isn't enough right now. It just simply wouldn't be profitable for them and EMTV would never let them take that kind of a financial risk while the company is up for sale.

Maybe in a few years it'll be cheaper to press DVD's, and distributors will find ways to make pressing smaller quantities cheaper, or maybe Henson might be able to sell a small quantity themselves via mail order. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Your opinion is fine and i'd love to see the full seasons released but i would also support a compilation right now, hopefully as a 'test' because i find it doubtful that anything else would be done. At least then fans would have something rather than nothing !

[DaViD Boulet]

I mean they haven't even done this for TMS, Bear or even 'The Hoobs' - all have compilation releases. I really don't see it happening with Fraggle Rock.

hence why it's important to let them know just how badly the fans want the entire series.

Henson KNOW that there are a small group of dedicated passionate fans who would buy full season sets in a second - it's the same 500 fans who are signing the DVD Petition and there are probably 10,000 more who might be tempted in the shops, but it isn't enough right now. It just simply wouldn't be profitable for them and EMTV would never let them take that kind of a financial risk while the company is up for sale.

Maybe. Maybe not. Many studios have viewed products as not having a large enough appeal to be profitable as "season" sets...only to discover...because the fans let them know...that there *was* an appeal for full-season sets and that they could have realized a profit. South Park. Friends. Just 2 examples of how studio "experts" decided that they couldn't turn a profit with complete sets only to discover after the fact that they were wrong.

I personally think that people would buy the sets and Henson could easily make their money. If they packaged them in affordable groups...then casual viewers would only have to buy the few discs they were interested in and collectors could purchase every one. If each disc or collection was packaged separately as a $20 disc...the casual viewer has just as much inclination to buy it as they would a "compilation" disc.

BTW, I look at the Muppet Show as an indication of just how serious DVD/muppet collectors are. Time Life released the first 10 volumes of the "best of" and...much to their surprise...they couldn't print them fast enough. The discs are perpetually on back-order because so many fans want them and they want them ALL. Now Time Life is considering releasing the rest of the shows to complete the entire series.

For the Muppet show this will ultimately work fine because the shows are variety and don't have story lines or characters who develop or "progress" one show to the next. But for Fraggle Rock, artistically it would be a shame to chop them up and assemble them randomly.


Maybe in a few years it'll be cheaper to press DVD's, and distributors will find ways to make pressing smaller quantities cheaper, or maybe Henson might be able to sell a small quantity themselves via mail order. I guess we will have to wait and see.

That's true. But even now it costs less to duplicate a DVD than it does a VHS tape.

In any case, the worst that will happen here is that we don't get the complete series despite our desires to have it. The more people who let them know that they love the series enough to buy them all, the more incentive Henson will have to release them that way. Regardless of how large or small the core fan-base who *really* want the entire series is, if they wisely package the discs so that they can be purchased for individual sale as well (agreed that $30 or $40 box sets-only are NOT the way to package them), then there's nothing to discourage the casual viewer from picking up as many discs as they feel inclined to purchase and contribute to the overall success of the release.

Look at the Muppet Show. Fans can buy each disc separately for $15 - $20. It just so happens that most fans buy all 10 discs :)

[Luke]

Yup i think you definitely have a point there - it would mean a heck of a lot of DVD's but individual DVD's in season order might well be the way to go, and also be profitable and in the event that it wasn't as in demand as we thought they could just stop production without losing too much money.

[DaViD Boulet]

That's exactly what I'm thinking.

On a single-layer DVD we could get 4-6 episodes. Dual-layer DVDs could store more + extras. Either way the discs themselves could be priced between $15 and $20 each.

Hopefully, just as with the Muppet Show, South Park, and other series that have cult-fan appeal, ultimately there will be enough demand to get them all released. In the meantime, at least we're building a real collection and not a disjointed assembly of wonderful, but out-of-context episodes.

[Warrick]

Hey,
So you mean release one Disc with the first 6 eps on ?

And then One disc containing 6 eps at a time ?

I think it is a good idea, For us it would be great to see them in order, And to other buyers they wouldnt be any the wiser if it was a Compilation disc or in order !

Maybe once we get more entries in the petition, We should tell Henson the ideas?

see ya

[DaViD Boulet]

So you mean release one Disc with the first 6 eps on ?

And then One disc containing 6 eps at a time ?

I think it is a good idea, For us it would be great to see them in order, And to other buyers they wouldnt be any the wiser if it was a Compilation disc or in order !

That's exactly the idea.

Right...the casual viewer wouldn't know a "compilation" disc from a disc with 6 chronological episodes...nor would they care.

To the real fan, however, they do care and they want them in order. So this is a simple win-win.

I think the reason why so many "compilations" come out is that the marketing guys think "oh, this is just kids stuff and nobody really takes that seriously so just put a few episodes on a disc and we're done". That would be a travesty with Fraggle Rock DVDs.

And besides...kids would benefit from having all the episodes available and in order just as much as as the die-hard fans who sign the petition :)

[Warrick]

i should think that is more than likely the way they will go if they release 'em.

But we need to find more ways of Promoting the Petition.

See ya

[Luke]

The way they'll more than likely go is a compilation - basically because they are selections of the best episodes and because its standard Henson policy - however David has a nice idea.

The petition needs more than 5,000 signatures ideally to submit if not a lot more - Henson already knows there are a thousand or so dedicated fans on the net who will buy DVD's. It basically goes back to what Danny said at Toughpigs.com in his article about petitions.

I suggest you go to 80's and 90's site webmasters (cult tv sites and stuff) to get some publicity. Just do a search for them.

[Jessie]

I really don't see it happening with Fraggle Rock.
Okay, I know I'm going to sound all cheesy and optimistic, but hey, someone has to say it.
*Pulls up soapbox*
Just because it is very, very unlikely that Henson will actually release all Fraggle Episodes on DVD doesn't mean that we should just throw in the towel. I know it's a long shot, but even if Henson rejects the idea now but only shelves it for awhile when DVDs are a lot cheaper, then we still will have made a difference. I personally have only seen 20 episodes on Fraggle Rock. I have them recorded from HBO on realy crappy VHS that's falling apart. I've never ever seen the last episode! If this petition even gets a few released, then it will be worth all the time that I've put into this. Not to be mean, but it kind of insults the people that have worked really hard onto making the site and spreading the word when you say, "Hey nice effort but it's not going to happen."
Just think of Andy Dufresne from the Shawshank Repemption--he wrote a letter a week to the government asking for funds and after 6 years he got them. If it takes 6 years to get Fraggle Rock on DVD then it will be worth it to me.
What we need now is encouragement, not discouragement please. The glass is half full to me. :0

[frogboy4]

I like that kind of sentiment. Nothing ever comes from those who say things can't be done. Good to see somebody keeping the faith. It's bound to happen someday, and I'm not going to give up.

[Luke]

You needed to read the post properly and ended up quoting me totally out of context. When i said "i really don't see it happening with Fraggle Rock" i was talking about full boxes of season by season DVD's - not the whole thing in general. Read back and have a look !

I don't see the point in campaigning Henson specifically for something that is so out of character and fairly unrealisitic when you can campaign them to do something that IS totally possible and realistic. David had a great idea though when he phrased it another way - doing single DVD's in chrono order !

[DaViD Boulet]

If it takes 6 years to get Fraggle Rock on DVD then it will be worth it to me.

Exactly.

I don't view it as being overly-optimistic. I just view it as needing a little patience and dedication.

EVENTUALLY if enough fans keep telling Henson they want Fraggle Rock (and they want them all) we'll get them. We might have to wait a while...but we'll get it.

I've been very active in the DVD world trying to get DVD releases done right and I've seen some real success stories. These aren't Muppet related but just to show you what I mean:

1. Original "Termiator 2" DVD was anounced by "Live" entertainment as a "flipper" disc that would only be 4x3 lbxed. I started an emailing campaign to the studio and they haulted production on the disc because of the influx of consumer feedback. They delayed the release date by several months and not only released the title remastered in 16x9 anamorphic widescreen, but also released the world's first RSDL (reverse spiral dual layer) DVD so that the entire program could be watched continuously without having to turn the disc over in the middle of the movie.

2. I contacted Image entertainment and spoke with their head of production about their plans to release "Dances With Wolves" in 4x3 lbxed (using the existing laserdisc master). I told him that the laserdisc transfer for the theatrical version was terrible, and that he should use the transfer for the "extended cut" or, better yet, remaster the title in 16x9 anamorphic. He said that he couldn't get the rights to the extended cut and that they only had 5.1 audio stems for the theatrical version, but that he hadn't really thought about 16x9 anamorphic but that my suggestion was a good one. He went on to say that another studio was already preparing a 16x9 anamorphic transfer but it wouldn't be ready in time for their disc production time-line. I kindly suggested that Image delay their time-line and utilize that new 16x9 transfer.

Guess what happened. A week later an announcement went out anouncing the delay of Dances With Wolves and when it was released it boldly stated "16x9 widescreen" on the cover ;)

3. I wrote several letters to United Artists asking that they release the Soundtrack to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang on CD (only available on out-of-print LP). 3 years after I wrote those letters I received a call from the studio letting me know personally they had finally been able to release the soundtrack and that they had taken the best of care to remaster from the original audio stems with the highest fidelity. The P.R. person asked if they could give my letter to the one living (of the 2 who wrote the score) Sherman brother who was being honored at a banquet in honor of the CD release--she felt that he deserved to see how much appreciation there was for the music he had composed for the movie by children who had grown up with the film and were now adults. Of course I said yes :)

4. Need I remind everyone of the success we've all had with getting Willy Wonka in widescreen on DVD???

5. Why doyou think Disney is releasing *all* the School House Rock shorts on DVD??? Becuase the fans have told them that we want them and we want the *all* (originally Disney had planned on just doing a "compilation" or "best of" DVD).

Why am I tell you all this? Because these are just a FEW examples of how we, as consumers, can have a DIRECT impact on the products that we buy. Now is the time. Don't be shy!!! Tell Henson Company you REALLy want all those Fraggle Rock episodes...the whole series. Tell them you really want to watch them all and have them all to share with your family and kids...and not just a handful of "best of" episodes taken out of the context of the series.

Let them know you'll buy them. I know that not only will *I* buy them, but I'll buy my sister a set and my nephiew a set as soon as they're available. That's 3 sales of the complete series on DVD right there and I'm just one person making my voice heard.

Get motivated. Be dilligent and be patient. It can happen and it *will* happen if we make it happen.

-dave

[Jessie]

Hey
I didn't mean to make you mad or anything, it's just that when I read your post it sounded to me like you were saying, "Why bother." I didn't mean to make you out like the villain or anything, but a lot of people have approached this negatively, & I just wanted to add my 2 cents. But I understand what you were saying.
Dave--That's really cool about all the things you've helped release. Hopefully the same thing will happen with Fraggles!
592 signatures--that's something, right?

[Luke]

Jessie :- It's ok - sometimes we all misinterpret things - i just want this petition to be as focused and effective as possible so we get what we want in a way where we get taken seriously and it's all do-able. I certainly wasn't saying "Why bother" !

David :- I noticed a Disney mention in there and that the fans had been effective in influencing their decisions. IF Disney buys the Henson company do you reckon we've got more chance of getting Fraggle on DVD in the format we want ? (bearing in mind the whole thing was filmed in fullscreen so we won't have a hoo-haa over that). Thinking about it - i tend to think so !

[DaViD Boulet]

Yes I do.

If Disney got a hold of Henson Co. I've got a good feeling that if consumers like us gave consistent input that we wanted the Fraggle Rock Series to be made available that, after a while, they'd oblige us. (humorous dig about the non OAR issue :) )

Do you know any info as to the situation with Henson and Disney?

Of all the things I want to see on DVD, this series has got to be one of my top 5 :)

[Wembley]

Of course, my question is why has there been no new FR stuff made since 1988? I know that Henson co. wanted to put a good ending on the series, and it was done very well. However, the door was left open for more stuff to be made, like movies, or a new series even. I for one, would love to see Gobo and Doc do more together now that they are friends, and of course, the Gorgs and the Fraggles are now friends, too.

Of course, a movie seems more likely than a new series. Heck it took 10 or so years to get the first Star Trek movie ... its been 14 years since the end of FR. If a little yellow thing that just says "Pika-choo!" can get three movies, surely there's a place for the Fraggle Five on the silver screen!

I know that Sprocket made an appearance in MCC, but the only other thing we have seen the Fraggles in is MFC and Uncle Matt's cameo in MTM. Are there any other Fraggle sightings in any other Muppet movies?

-Rick

[Jessie]

Do you remember Bagooney? (spelling) He (it) made a guest appreance in MCC. Very small--just a background appearance. As for Doc- did he not pass away a few years back? Someone had mentioned that he had...:0(

[Luke]

Nope - i'm not sure about how the Disney/Henson thing is going - i think they are probably playing the waiting game. Once EMTV goes down the pan they can swoop and pick the company up real cheap !

It seems we have found one topic where Disney owning Henson WOULD actually be an advantage to us. I too believe that besides their Fullscreen policy that Disney are quite receptive to releasing what the fans want after a while. I've always said that one of the things missing from Henson is the power to distribute effectively and with Disney they would have access to all that, and the retail outlets. It must be giving all the Disney haters a heart attack !

[DaViD Boulet]

Just imagine if the Fraggle DVDs went on sale and were promoted in every Disney Store in every mall accross the U.S.

hmmmm.

[Jessie]

Is this a bad thing or a good thing?

[KPrell]

Jessie -

I spoke to Gerry Parkes in Toronto a few weeks ago and he's fine and still working. And still sounds like our beloved Doc!

You're probably thinking of Fulton McKay, who played the Captain in the early UK Fraggle shows. Yes, he did pass away, oh, around 10 years ago.

Karen

[Jessie]

Yes, Captain was the person I was thinking of. I'm sure that Doc wouldn't appreciate me wishing him away! That's really cool that you still speak to him though.
*Sprocket, you can move now..."

[Warrick]

Hey ,
We reached 600 Entries today !

I added one of Jerry Juhl's Memories that he sent me !
go to the 'Memories' section to read it !

Oh and dont forget, Spread the word !

www.PetitionOnline.com/Fraggle

See ya

[DaViD Boulet]

Here's something else we can do too...

contact Henson directly and tell them we want Fraggle Rock on DVD...that we want the *all* and we want them in *order*....

fanmail@henson.com

dave :)

[Warrick]

Hey Guys,
I think it would also help for people to call and write letters.

Address your letters to one of these people -

Debbie Fine,
Karina Gee,
Isabella Miller,
Brian Grimmer,
Betts Fitzgerald...

All at this address -

The Jim Henson Company
Sr. Vice President, Licensing
117 East 69th Street
New York, NY 10021
212-794-2400

Today we reached 700 Entries , It is picking back up again !!

Keep Spreadin' -
www.PetitionOnline.com/Fraggle

See ya

[EmmyMik]

Warrick, I have to congratulate you. Somehow you did it.

694. John Lennon.

Either you somehow managed to get the famous John Lennon to sign, or there's some other less famous John Lennon out there.

Do you think you can get Ringo to sign as well?


:D

[Luke]

yeah Warrick - if you are gonna start faking the signatures i think it'd be best to pick people that are still alive - what next ? Walt Disney and John F Kennedy ?

[Warrick]

Haha ... (Sarcastically)

did i spell that right ?

- LOL

Guys keep up the good work, I mean the 'good' work, And if you are gonna fake signatures, MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE ARE STILL ALIVE !

See ya

[Luke]

Hey Warrick

Yes, you spelled it right ........ that proves that you aren't the one faking the signatures ! If there's one thing i've learn't through all these petitions is that the majority of Muppet fans can't spell !

[Warrick]

Yeah i noticed too...

Sometimes bad spellin leads to other stuff like this one ...

Bring Bake The Fraggles

Then we got...

MMMmm...Baked Fraggles!

"They're Weirdos, But they're nice weirdos !"

See ya

[Jessie]

LOL! Baked Fraggles!
My problem usually isn't the spelling...it's the typing.

[dwmckim]

Is it that unthinkable that someone with the last name "Lennon" wouldn't be able to withstand the temptation of naming their child John?:D

...and Fraggles are best baked with halls in the candle of the brain.

[Jrobert]

Can we post this in the General Annoucements of the Forum or get it out elsewhere to gather more signatures? Seems like we've got a good ball rolling, let's go for more!!

[Warrick]

Hi,
It was but Someone took it away...

See ya

[Jessie]

Someone took it away? How come?

[Phillip Chapman]

The exact same message was posted in multiple places throughout the various forums. One of them was left up and the other one was removed. That's what happened.

[AbbessBryony]

#840!!!! :) :cool:

[Warrick]

Hey,
I forgot to mention that on Saturday we reached 800 !

I added a story written by our very own Joggy to the 'Fraggle Fun' page !

See ya

[DaViD Boulet]

After the debacle with the Pan-and-scan Muppet Treasure Island and Christmas Carol is dealt with, it will be time to start targeting a campaign to Henson about this with even more "umph". Great to see so much interest out there in Fraggles Rock!

Hey...are any of you still waiting to get the Dark Crystal Soundtrack on CD??

[Warrick]

Hey,
Today we got 900 entries !

Keep em coming !

www.PetitionOnline.com/Fraggle

See ya

[Drtooth]

Originally posted by EmmyMik

Either you somehow managed to get the famous John Lennon to sign, or there's some other less famous John Lennon out there.





Actually, I do know a woman named Vicki Lawrence, but she's not THE Vicki Lawrence!

[KPrell]

Hi Folks,

I saw that some addresses for Henson execs were posted for people to contact. I'm worried about these people being bombarded with requests for Fraggle DVDs.

Hensons are not a huge corporation like Disney. They are a small company and at the moment everyone is tied up with everyday business, current projects and planning for the future of the company. They are aware of the Fraggle anniversary and would like to do something with the library of shows eventually, but there are other very urgent matters they must deal with first.

That's why I thought the Fraggle petition, quietly growing but available whenever Henson's, distributors or possible new owners need to take a look, would be an excellent way for them to be aware of interest in the shows.

It'll surely hit 1000 today, which is pretty good for only two weeks, and will continue to grow as word spreads.

I personally would feel better if you didn't bombard the people at Henson's directly. If you've got thoughts about how the shows should be re-released that won't fit on the petition, please post them here. They'll be seen. And otherwise, trust the quiet strength of the petition and have patience.

The shows WILL be released again for new children to discover. Your wonderful support and enthusiasm for the series have already gone a long way toward making sure that will happen.

Thanks again Warrick for starting the petition and Jessie for the heartfelt statement. And thanks to all the folks at Muppet Central and those who've signed the petition for your appreciation of Fraggle Rock. It means alot to everyone who worked on the show.

Karen Prell

[DaViD Boulet]

Karen,

I hear ya loud and clear. Administrators please feel free to edit my earlier post with Henson contact info (i can't edit it now).

My biggest fear here is that the Henson folks will think "how quaint, they want fraggle DVDs" and then think "hey, this is kids stuff...let's make a cute little compliation "best of" DVD set."

That would be a shame. Fraggle fans deserve the entire series and we deserve to have the episodes in order. If you're aware that Henson folks are reading this thread and that what is discussed here will have some effect on their decision making process, super!

Another thought I've had is that once an outside-vendor has been established to have the rights to press the discs (like Time Life) it may be a good idea to let *them* know we want the series in order. When I called henson and talked about getting all the muppet shows on DVD they kept saying "That's not in our hands...Time Life makes all the decisions about that."

I just don't want to risk another situation like we have with the Muppet Show or South Park where we get stuck with "best of" collections and that's it. Fraggle Rock is a show that develops as a series that one ought to be able to experience in order and every episode is worth watching...and worth owning on DVD.

This has been a dream of mine for years and I really don't want some "marketing" guy who's never even watched the show to hand me a best-of DVD!

Anyhow, here's some of my ideas about how to best-serve the Fraggle Fan with a DVD release:


The long-term goal should be to make the entire series available with all episodes in order of release.

The DVDs could be single or dual-layer discs and either packaged individually for @$20 or in season sets. This would let consumers buy the discs they are interested in for those out there not intending to purchase the whole set (if the Muppet Show and South Park DVDs are an indication it's a good bet most fans will buy *all* the DVDs they can...Time Life is contantly on back-order with their Muppet Show set).

Music Music Music. The incredible music of Fraggle Rock is one of its greatest strengths. It should be treated as such on the DVD. Every episode has a "featured" song or two (Sail Away, The Moon Song, Our Melody). At the end of each episode or during the episode as an alternate audio track, users should be able to select to hear the pure stereo-studio mix. This would be amazing if it happened. Each DVD would be like purchasing a CD with the studio song mixes! Linear PCM should be the audio format for recording any "music" tracks. 20 bit 48 kHz resolution would be wonderful.

The stereo mix for the show, if it uses dolby digital compression for bandwidth reasons, should *not* use 2.0 DD at the 192 kbps data-rate. It sounds really aweful and all it takes is a cursory glance at any DVD forum to find that most people prefer the sound of the PCM on laserdisc or even the analog stereo on hi-fi VHS to 2.0 DVD at the 192 kbps rate!!!

If 2.0 DD is used, it should be at a higher rate like 348 kbps which would do a much better job at preserving fidelity. It's really REALLY important that our Fraggle Music sound as good as it can.

Cool things like any documentaries or interviews/commentary when appropriate would be awesome too!


thanks for listening :)

[Luke]

Was Fraggle recorded in Stereo then ? I know some prime time shows like ALF were at that point, but i didn't know about Fraggle.

I can't seem them remastering the stuff as it is just gonna make things more costly but making the songs a special feature is a lovely idea.

I'd love to see Karen and others appear on a commentary - i would guess Henson aren't looking to go to the cost of doing 'extras' like this if they do put out a set but if they did then that would be numero uno on my list.

[Jessie]

Hey everyone and Warrick! We just got 1000 entries!

Great news! :0)

[DaViD Boulet]

Luke,

Fraggle Rock is definitely in stereo. When it aired on HBO my friend taped all the shows to hi-fi VHS. We then taped the musical sequences to DAT with the expecation that eventually we'd burn some CDs to archive the music. If the DVDs come out that would make it unnecessary.

And Oh...I'm not talking about a huge $$$ remastering effort here. They already have great studio stereo mixes for many of these songs. I'm just talking about brushing the dust off the tins, taking them off the shelf, and putting them on the DVD so they can be in the hands of the Fraggle Music lover where they belong.

The fidelity of the 2 out-of-print LPs and the commercial CD were outstanding. I'd love to have the rest of the Fraggle Music library on my DVD collection with the same quality.

-dave

[Warrick]

Yayyyy 1000 !

I have been in contact with a DVD Company who release stuff because of Petitions and Large Fan Bases.

I wanna know, Would it matter if you could only order them from Online ?

Except the music, What other extras would you all like to see ?

Id like -

UK Comic Relief - Red, Matt and Sprocket in a music video
Down at Fraggle Rock: Behind the Scenes
International Matt segments
Fraggle Songs
Doozer Music
An Episode from each Co Production With their own Doc (The Minstrels ?)


And how many Box Sets, Would 2 or 3 be Ok ?

See ya

[DaViD Boulet]

If it made the difference between having the DVD set done right or not I'd be happy with on-line only (such as with Time Life).

MUSIC is my no 1 extra (pcm stereo studio mixes)...

but,

I'd also love to have the option to view the international "doc" and "travelling Matt" sequences too. That would be fascinating.

The other extras you mention, along with commentary would be awesome as well.

As far as box sets go...I would love a "box or not" option (you can buy each of the Muppet Show DVDs separately, which I think is a plus for some "casual" fans who just might want one or two). But it would also be cool if fans who plan on buying the entire series could get "sets" that do come in boxes. How many seasons did the series air? could there be a box per season? Also...if one purchased a "box" season set it would be cool if they could include a bonus-disc with some of the cool extras. This could be a disc only available to box-set purchasers if it would help make things available that otherwise wouldn't fit on the standard feature-discs.

one cool thing would be if the spine-art on the DVD covers is designed to create a collective image when the discs are lined up in order (or in the box) on the self! This has been popular with many VHS-set releases but hasn't been seen very often with DVD series. It would be a fun feature and help make it easy to place a disc back on the self in its proper place

Did I mention my no 1 extra is the music in PCM stereo sound?
;)

[Warrick]

There were 5 Seasons, so 5 box sets with about 19 eps on four and 20 eps on one.

Is that right, Im lousy at Maths.

Then you could have Extras on those Discs and an *exclusive* music only Disc as the bonus in each Box Set ?

see ya

[KPrell]

Hi David,

Thanks for understanding about contacting Henson's and also for your excellent suggestions about format and sound for Fraggle DVDs. Whenever Henson's decide to do something about releasing that, I'll do what I can to make sure they have that information.

I remember the show being recorded in stereo, but don't know any specifications beyond that. I'm in contact with some of the Fraggle sound crew and could find out a bit more.

Warrick, as far as seasons and numbers of shows, in North America there were 4 seasons of 24 shows each, a total of 96. I'm not sure if it was different in England, France and Germany.

I remember the bizarre number we did for Comic Relief UK years ago. Dave Barclay performed Sprocket, I did Red and Mike Quinn performed Uncle Matt. All the famous British television puppets got together and sang a song about giving a helping hand.

Red had a closeup with Nookie Bear, who was famous for doing really rude nightclub routines! Punch and Judy were there, lots of Spitting Image puppets (one of whom was attacked by Rod Hull's Emu) Sooty, Zippy and George, Gilbert the alien, Gordon the Gopher and many more. Bean Bunny was there, waaaaay in the back, performed by Mary Loveday. Lots of the puppets were hitting each other and at the end a giant inflatable hand falls down and squashes all of them. That's British humor for you!

The best part of that shoot was when Christine Glanville performed the close up of Lady Penelope from Thunderbirds. All the other UK puppeteers stood around in reverent silence watching her and at the end gave her thunderous applause.

Oh, and the 'Fraggles find work' video that you mentioned Warwick - I'm not aware of anything like that unless a special edit was done of existing footage.

Thanks and keep all the great suggestions coming!

Karen

[Warrick]

Thanks for the info !

I could only remember a little bit about it, I couldnt remember Sprocket or Bean Bunny !

I am sure i saw something entitled something like 'The Fraggles Find Work', Hmmm weird !

Cheryl Wagner, who performed Ma Gorg in all the shows apart form Season One, signed the Petition today !!

Keep spreading the news !

See ya

[Warrick]

Today we reached 1100 !!

keep on spreading the word !!

See ya

[The Big Don]

Hey Warrick. Not to brag, but ive gotten the last 20 people or so to sign it bringing it to about 1158, and i posted a link over at simpsonscollectors.com message boards and some movie boards. I think the number of signatures will double in a week or so.

I hope they release these on DVD. So awesome. Question, does anyone have tapes of the animated cartoon of Fraggle rock and/or the bill and ted animated cartoon. Thanks

The "Heel" Big Don

[Warrick]

Hey,
Thanks for spreading the word !

In theUK, There were Three videos of the Animated Series.
I do have an extra one for trade !

See ya

[FER SURE]

Signature #1267 is wholly innapropriate!!!!

[Jessie]

Why do people have to do stuff like that? Its obvious that we all care about this--why do people go out of their way to make fun of it?

[Warrick]

I know, its gonna be removed soon.

but good news, 1300 !!

See ya

[matleo]

Getting back to the John Lennon thing (kinda), has anyoen noticed that signature 1110 is Jeff Moss. That threw me for a second. but that probably is someone named Jeff Moss so it is possible that John Leenon is in fact someone named John Lennon. Still I thought it was kinda neat/odd.

--Matt

[Warrick]

Hey,
Well someone else signed George.W.Bush and i took it off straight away, But i thought that someone could be called John Lennon other than *the* John Lennon.

Thats why i left it, And it doesnt look like a joke , It looks like someone just wants Fraggle Rock on DVD...

See ya

[Luke]

Yeah Warrick, good for you - it HAD to be a hoax - there's no way George Bush is intelligent enough to use the internet - well spotted ! ;-)

Luke
(he could have had his monkey butlers sign his name though !)

[EmmyMik]

Originally posted by Luke
Yeah Warrick, good for you - it HAD to be a hoax - there's no way George Bush is intelligent enough to use the internet - well spotted ! ;-)

Luke
(he could have had his monkey butlers sign his name though !)

I don't think his monkey butlers would. Possibly his puppeteers...

[Jessie]

Plus it would just be disappointing to know that George W. Bush watched Fraggle Rock. Yuchh.

[Smig]

Is there any way you can edit the petition? i don't think the comments posted at #1267 are going to help any- not at all.

Smig

[Jessie]

Yeah, Warrick said he was going to take it off.

(Thankfully)

[Warrick]

Hey,
All i can do is email the people at PetitionOnline and then they delete them, So far they havent replied telling me that they have voided it yet.

I dont know why, Ive tried a few times too !

see yaq

[Warrick]

Did anyone notice that Jocelyn Stephenson signed ?

Yayyyy !

See ya

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

1300 signatures, and Jocelyn Stephenson's signature?! GO Fraggles!! :D

[Warrick]

Kepp spreading the word !

1700 !!

See ya

[Warrick]

Hey Guys !

Today we reached 2000 Signatures on the Petition!

Congrats and thanks guys!

Keep spreading the word !

[Blind Pew]

I have a question....... How many signatures are we going for and who will the petition be submitted to? BTW, I signed it and made my hubby sign it too :)

[Warrick]

Thanks for signing, Im hoping for every signature I can get !

I am not sure how many we are going for, And is will be sent to Henson Licensing at the end.

See ya

[Blind Pew]

I wish you the best of luck and I really hope we can get the Fraggles on DVD.
Cheers!

[Warrick]

Just a quick update !

the Fraggle Rock DVD petition is up to 2961 !

I have also heard some talk of Fraggle DVD's and re-Airing in the States for Next Summer.

But this could just be total rumours.

Keep spreadin the word !!

See ya

[Traveling Matt]

Hey Guys!

#2965 claims that FR will be available in France this September!

- Billy :cool:

[Warrick]

This is true.

All the details will come later on tonight !

See ya

[scarecroe]

Originally posted by *Warrick*
All the details will come later on tonight !I assume you mean to be getting more info on this? Will you post here when you find out? Thanks :)

[Warrick]

Yeah, im waiting for an 'official' word, There seams to have been a Press Release in France by either LCJ Editions or Henson.

But i should think that Henson, Would have also released the Press Release here too.

See ya

[scarecroe]

Have they already been released in France or does this mean to imply that they *will* be released in France? Maybe you're still waiting to confirm that.

If France gets Fraggles on DVD, other regions wouldn't be far behind I would think. What would be the point in releasing a show in a country where it did not originate and expect it to sell? Universal Playback did this with The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman, which is just silly. Those shows were filmed, produced and distributed first in the US, but the only DVDs that have been released were done so in the UK.

Fraggle Rock was produced in Canada, was it not?

[Warrick]

Fraggle Rock was produced in Canada, but it also had the 'Doc Segments' redone in France, UK and Germany.

All i know at this point is (from a very bad French Translation) -

The Best of Fraggle Rock
15th September 2002
French + English

They said something about Bloopers, Extras and something.

They tried to write it in English themselves so its hard, If they would have written it in French it would have been easier - LOL!

Au Revoir

[scarecroe]

Well thanks for the report Warrick. Please keep us updated, as I'm sure you will.

Wow, bloopers sound awesome. I love seeing that stuff. I wonder if they're planning on box sets or individual releases... hmm....

[Traveling Matt]

Great news! Based on this, one would assume that the Fraggles wouldn't be far behind in North America.

- Billy :cool:

[Blind Pew]

Ay Chihuahua! That is great news!

[Warrick]

Yeah, it is great news !

see ya

[frogboy4]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek (!)

[Jeffrey Gray]

I hope WE don't get best-of releases. It just doesn't work for Fraggle Rock.

[Warrick]

From what i can make out it is a 'Best Of...' release, But ive also heard it is the entire First and Second Seasons.

Ill let you know when i get more info !

See ya

[Warrick]

I am still trying to get more info on the French Fraggle Rock DVD's !

But guess what ?

The Petition has reeched 3000 ! , And passed it and gone to 3059 !.

Keep Spreadin the word cause i think its working!

See ya

[scarecroe]

Woo-hoo, over 3000! This has probably been mentioned earlier in the thread, but have you sent this to Henson yet?

[Warrick]

Yeah i have sent it to Henson.

I will send it to them again soon, and show them how it has grown.

See ya

[Luke]

Hey Warrick

I also heard a rumor of the DVD release - Compilation Region 2 DVD with French soundtrack, but with original English audio as well as other euro languages as secondary audio tracks. Distributed in France only i think so you'd need to go to www.amazon.fr or somewhere like that.

[Warrick]

Yeah this is also what ive heard.

They didnt give details of the Opening Theme tho, But the French one does look very nice.

Im just gonna post what i know on the 'Merchandise' forum after, I have enough to make a post.

See ya

[Warrick]

Today we reached our Goal on the Fraggle Rock DVD Petition!

At first i wanted to hit 4000, And today we did !

So anything on from here is a bonus, And it is still going strong !

Thank you all so much for spreading the word and making the Petition what it is !

Thanks !!

[Wembley]

...since all the episodes were so good that it would be forever and a day trying to decide on the "best" ones....

I am now thinking about buying a French DVD player to play the Fraggle DVDs if they really are coming out!

-Rick

[Blind Pew]

Wouldn't you have to get an adaptor for the European outlet plug thingy?

Just wondering,

Carrie

[Phillip Chapman]

Carrie,

Some code-free DVD players convert Pal-NTSC and NTSC-Pal on the fly so they are compatible with both kinds of television sets. Those that do not include NTSC-Pal/Pal-NTSC converters built in, do require a Pal tv to view Pal programming. So there are generally two-different kinds of code-free DVD players out there.

[Jackie]

YAY! I want to say congratulations to Warrick, but then again it's all of us who want Fraggle Rock to come back to us in DVD form! I say congratulations to us all and hope that it works out for the best!

Ya hear that HENSON? The Fraggles are STAYin!

[Warrick]

Yup Congratulations for everyone who signed is in order !

See ya

[electricmayhem]

I don't sign many petitions but this one is obviously worth it! Congratulations Warrick and thank you for starting a petition for this very worthy cause:)

[Wembley]

What's up with the petition? No news in a month almost....

-Rick

[Warrick]

Hey,
The Petition is now at 4940!

Its still growing and growing !

See ya

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

Man, the Kount would have a BLAST with this freakin' infinite petition!!

:eek:

:D

[Warrick]

Well Guys and Gals we have come along way from the beginning...

I remember when i first started the Petition, I was so excited that One Hundred people had signed it, I was like "One Hundred People signed it, Thats like Millions!!" - LOL

But now, Here we have 5000 Signatures !

Congrats People, Hopefully we can double the number and carry on !

See ya

[Luke]

So when ya gonna send it to Henson and the DVD companies Warrick ?

[Jeffrey Gray]

I hope not. Let's wait for more...

[Luke]

Originally posted by Jeffrey Gray
I hope not. Let's wait for more...

Well you don't want to miss the boat - if they are looking for a DVD deal for Fraggle now, it's a good idea for them to have it to hand now rather get handed it after they've exhausted their time speaking to DVD distributors. I would think at 5,000 it's going to have the desired effect anyway, unless you could get it to say, 10,000 by early next year.

[Warrick]

Henson already know about it, And ive been in contact with one DVD company.

any ideas about other companies i can send it to ?

See ya

[beaker]

>>>But now, Here we have 5000 Signatures !

Congrats People, Hopefully we can double the number and carry on !<<<

Two thoughts...first off congrats for getting so many online signatures...but...

Im confused...is everybody sending in tons of repeat signatures? Between there only being 750 or so registered people on here,
and JHC claiming 1000 hardcore fans...5000 signatures for a show that for all practical purposes is pretty underground and cult status is odd. I mean look at the FR section on MC, not even a quarter of the threads that the action figure thread has.

Also, any new news on the France FR dvds? Ive given up on a US release, and wanna import these babies! Anywhere I could to that?

[Luke]

The petition has been advertised on DVD and Cult TV sites - not just Muppet stuff.

You can find French DVD's at :- www.amazon.fr

Obviously the box is gonna be in French, and each time you put the DVD in you'll have to select the English audio track rather than the French.

[beaker]

>>>The petition has been advertised on DVD and Cult TV sites - not just Muppet stuff<<<

Still, 5000 seems to be an off number. I could unsterstand those numbers TMS related...but Fr...it wasnt even available to most Americans in the 80's! That, plus marketing wise...there hasnt been anything FR related to buy in like a decade.

As for the French dvd FR hassles...just to be able to say I have FR on dvd is a perk. I love the fact I can play PAL dvds, and would like to get Storytell dvds. Unfortunately there doesnt seem to be a central Amazon.com On amazon.uk there is a lot of dvds I would like to get. Heck ya can find Song of the South. But politics and everything, cant find any PAL dvd stuff on amazon.com

[Warrick]

This may come as a big shock to you But...
America isnt the only place on this planet.

People from everywhere have signed, and people everywhere have been telling different people everywhere else about it.

See ya

[beaker]

>>>This may come as a big shock to you But...
America isnt the only place on this planet.

People from everywhere have signed, and people everywhere have been telling different people everywhere else about it.

Warrick, I would sincerely hope a bulk of those signings were from outside the US! hehe

[Warrick]

Ive updated the site with another story from Fraggle Rock Puppeteer Rob Mills.

Kinda a 'Congratulations for hitting 5000 Signatures' gift !

He sent me a Picture and a short story to go with it, So pick up your little Fraggle Feet or a Slippery Leaf and shoot on over to the website, Its in the Memories section !

Fraggle Rock DVD Website ! (http://www.angelfire.com/super2/fragglerock0/Entrance.html)

See ya

[Warrick]

Good Fraggle DVD News awaits you at my Fraggle Site !

Click the Link below !

See ya

[trekkie1701E]

For some reason, the petitions at petitiononline.com are all malfunctioning: The signatures won't show up!
I've changed my Disney Channel petition, which used to be on petitiononline.com. The new one is on petitionpetition.com. Unfortunately, I hadn't printed the previous names on petitiononline.com! I was going to do so last week, but THEY WOULDN'T PRINT! So, If you signed the Disney Channel petition before, "pleaseFor some reason, the petitions at petitiononline.com are all malfunctioning: The signatures won't show up!
I've changed my Disney Channel petition, which used to be on petitiononline.com. The new one is on petitionpetition.com. Unfortunately, I hadn't printed the previous names on petitiononline.com! So, If you signed the Disney Channel petition before, please sign this new one:
http://www.PetitionPetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=4599

I don't want to lose your name if I can help it!

[trekkie1701E]

So sorry about the mistakes in the above text

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

So, wait a minute---is this stuff ENTIRELY in French?!?!? :mad: :( :mad: :(

Cause if there were any English options, I would SOOOOOOOOOO get 'em!!!!

Really!

I would!

*has fingers crossed, but is afraid to hear Warrick's answer*

The art is BEAUTIFUL, though!!

[The Big Don]

Ive put this petition all over the place and many boards, SCS (simpsons collector sector), Chicagowrestling.com, where i wrote columns, and many more sites. And tons of people have signed. Lets keep spreading the word.

[Drtooth]

(In worst French accent ever) Oh hon hon hon! I cannot find ze Fraggle Rock DVD, no! Hon Hon hon!!!

Really! I checked the french Amazon site to no avail! Do they call it Fraggle Rock?

Never mind!!! I checked Warrick's site!

Byron.. you may want to sit down....I think I have BAAAAAADDD News.....
According to his site..there IS no..no English track!! It's entirely in French..sorry!!! But Janice may make a come back on the Muppet Christmas Movie..that's good news, isn't it?

[Warrick]

Yup, They are 100% French, It is a shame !

But maybe we will get English DVD's soon, Seeing as the Petition is still going!

Oh, And this week we reached 6000 Signatures !


See ya

[Drtooth]

French DVD's....

I gotta say one thing. WHen I searched it, I couldnot find it, and I got Monsters Inc and other American released movies. But isn't it a little redundant to release these movies ENTIRELY in French? I mean DVD's do have French tracks, so I though they'd have French as the default language, and the Menus would be in French.

Plus they have a Futurama DVD set. I am SOOO jealous!

[Boober_Gorg]

Last time I checked, it reached 7000!:D Here's hoping it reaches 10,000 soon!

[Boober_Gorg]

Originally posted by DaViD Boulet
Fraggle Rock is definitely in stereo. When it aired on HBO my friend taped all the shows to hi-fi VHS.

I hope those videos still exist. How can I contact your friend?

[Boober_Gorg]

Now it has peaked 8000! Every time I return it seems to have expanded even more. :D

[Warrick]

Booby Baby you beat me to it !

LOL!

Yup, The Fraggle Rock DVD Petition reached 8000 Signatures today !

I think we can get to 10,000 by Christmas !

See ya

[Boober_Gorg]

Oh goody oh goody, it's gonna reach 9000 soon ... thanks for signing, Jerry Juhl! :D :D :D

[Jackie]

There are a LOT of people signing this petition...is it doing any good? Warrick, are you in contact with anybody? huh huh??

[Warrick]

Jackie, only time will tell !


Today the DVD Petition reached 9072 !!

Congrats to everyone who signed !


:D

[Jackie]

If i could save time in a bottle, the first thing that i'd like to do...

[Jessie]

Hey Warrick

I just got back from Paris yesterday and I saw the Fraggle Rock DVD set on sale in French. I was tempted to buy it even though I woulnd't be able to understand most of it, but sadly it was 92 Euros. But it was still exciting to be able to see it! Any word on an english version?

[Boober_Gorg]

I knew it would happen sooner or later ... it's finally peaked 10,000! :D :D :D :D :D

[Luke]

Yay Warrick - 10,000 - what an achievement ! Your petition really has some clout now, i expect Fraggle DVD's announced within the next year ! Even if me and you have to burn the Cd's ourselves ! LOL !

[Warrick]

Finally 10,000 Signatures !

Now we can see what Henson has to say !

Thanks for everyone who signed, I think that every person who signed the petition counts... and those who didnt, Well they still have a chance - LOL!


Just because we got to 10,000 doesnt mean its finished, So keep spreading the word.

The Fraggles want to come out of the caves for one last time !

http://www.petitiononline.com/Fraggle/

[electricmayhem]

WHOO HOO!! That's awesome!!:D

[Boober_Gorg]

I've been printing out little 4.5 x 4.5 squares of this image (http://fragglerock.scarecroe.com/images/flyer.jpg). I'm renting (and checking out) as many Fraggle videos as I can within my area, and I'm slipping those square sheets under the plastic layer of the clamshell cases (but not over the text of the description on the back cover, of course). That way, the next time someone gets that video, they'll see the link to the petition site!

Now it's reached 10,776 signatures! Good sign ...

[Cantus Rock]

Good idea G-Man. My only suggestion would be, rather than renting them all, why don't you just slip them in when you see them on the shelves? I mean, it'll definitely save you money. Also, the rental store might check the movie or box before reshelving, and may disgard the slip. If they're already shelved, then you have nothing to worry about.

Congratz on 10,000 Warrick! I had my whole family sign! :)

-Matt

[electricmayhem]

Originally posted by Cantus Rock
Good idea G-Man. My only suggestion would be, rather than renting them all, why don't you just slip them in when you see them on the shelves? I mean, it'll definitely save you money. Also, the rental store might check the movie or box before reshelving, and may disgard the slip. If they're already shelved, then you have nothing to worry about.

Congratz on 10,000 Warrick! I had my whole family sign! :)

-Matt

That's a really great idea! Good thinking. We should all print some off and stick them around our towns.

[Warrick]

Thanks for the support !

I think that if you asked politly you would be allowed to leave flyers at a Video Store and maybe some other places ?


see ya

[Cantus Rock]

Eh, I guess it depends on the kind of kids ya got workin' at the stores. I'm sure you can find the 17-year-old nostalgia bumpits who will hand 'em out to all of their friends to show how cool they are, so that's a plus in a way. Depending on the strictness of the managers and staff, you might run into some problems that could be avoided if you just snuck them in the boxes.

-Matt

[Boober_Gorg]

I don't see any problems if the videos belong to a public library, and to a San Francisco rental shop full of friendly nostalgists. The petition link is an inviting way of saying, "If you've rented this video, that must mean you like this show. And if you like this show, and want it to be released on DVD, why not sign this petition?"

[Cantus Rock]

Of course you don't see any problem with it, and honestly there really isn't any problem at all. Its just some places might view it as some kind of advertising (which it is, in essance...even though there is no initial monetary profit to be gained, its still an ad), and aren't cool with that. Others won't support it because they are worried about people in higher positions coming down on them for it, which risks their jobs and such. There are more factors to a simple harmless DVD Petition to some people than there are to us Muppets. You gotta remember, the world doesn't view things the way we do (ESPECIALLY when people think money is at stake, which they might in the rental market).

-Matt

[Warrick]

I think its harmless, And i dont think anyone would mind or get in trouble.

But ask first, its best.

[doozertime]

thank you soo much for taking the time to write such a touching patition i got teary eyed when i read it we must have fraggle rock on dvd ill bye a hundred copies if i have too!!!:excited: :smirk:

[muppetfreak12]

Is there a goal (number of signatures), for the petition? :excited:

[Boober_Gorg]

I don't think so - you might say the goal is the number of signatures it has by the big day when we find out, for sure, unmistakably, with dead-on proof, that our petition's request will be fulfilled. (For sure. No exaggeration.) And who knows when that day will come?

[mickyfan413]

the email you sent me never went through.could you please send me another one thanks joe

[Boober_Gorg]

There ya go, I just did. In case it didn't go through, I can post it.

[Jeffrey Gray]

I think this petition has to be actually physically mailed to Henson at some point...right?

[camax]

Yay, "11528 Signatures Total" after I added mine. Fraggle Rock is awesome, but then Henson is gold to me! :)

[wembleyfraggle]

Ok I have a question! So is the DVD thing off, or are they ever going to make them. I mean are we holding our breathes for nothing?:confused:
Thanks
Tyler

[Jessie]

Hahaha wow! I haven't visited the Muppet Central Forum since 2003 until I stumbled over it again tonight. Crazy to think that the petition worked! Way to go, everyone! :-)

[wwfpooh]

It worked alright. Not only do we get the DVDs, but we're getting a film, too!