Why isn't Skeeter a Muppet? [Archive]

erniebert1234ss

08-03-2004, 06:30 PM

Also, Bunsen & Beeker were never really considered "regular" muppet babies. They would come over & visit the nursery from time to time though. I always wondered why they didn't choose to make a muppet baby version of Janice. They could have made her into a cute little muppet baby.
:flirt: :confused: :eek:
They did do Baby Janice for one episode. I still haven't seen that one; any help?

Bunsen and Beeker came on quite regularly if I remember correctly. Think of baby versions of them in their cute li'l labcoats. Toodle-oo!

BJ

WiGgY

08-03-2004, 07:31 PM

I think they became a big part in later seasons. I know there were in at least one vesion of the openeing. But they would always visit. They didn't live with the other muppet babies. I suppose it wouldn't make sense to jst have them live there all of a sudden.

I'd like to see an adult Skeeter in puppet form as a special guest puppet on a new show. Maybe not a full time character (though that wouldn't be bad if done right). It could be interesting, though hard core fans would be so mad. However, i think it would be good as long as they don't mention the muppet babies. If she was introduced as a new character that no one but Scooter knows about it would be cool. It would be a name that people would know, but a blank slate as well.

bobhopesite

08-04-2004, 11:54 AM

I always wondered about that.

Skeeter Muppet

08-07-2004, 06:34 PM

They did do Baby Janice for one episode. I still haven't seen that one; any help?

Bunsen and Beeker came on quite regularly if I remember correctly. Think of baby versions of them in their cute li'l labcoats. Toodle-oo!

BJ

Pajamas, actually. Cute little pajamas, and Beaker had bunny slippers!

-Kim

rexcrk

08-07-2004, 10:27 PM

I remember Bean Bunny was also on Muppet Babies a couple times :cool:

Disneys Muppets

08-08-2004, 07:52 PM

Statler and Waldorf were also in Muppet Babies. Well at the end anyways...

Xerus

08-11-2004, 02:43 PM

I've always imagined Skeeter as a regular cast of the Muppet Show. And I'd also imagine Jerry Nelson doing her voice so he could be part of the Muppet Babies as well.

floydnjanicefan

09-04-2004, 12:16 AM

I've always imagined Skeeter as a regular cast of the Muppet Show. And I'd also imagine Jerry Nelson doing her voice so he could be part of the Muppet Babies as well.

Robin was on the Muppet Babies sometimes, and that is a Jerry Nelson character. Robin appeared as a little tadpole. I cant remember whether or not he could talk, but he was very cute. They had him in a small glass fish bowl and he came to visit the guys in the nursary once in a while.

GelflingWaldo

09-04-2004, 12:59 AM

The regular characters were Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, Skeeter, Scooter, Rowlf, Animal, and Nanny. Bunson and Beaker showed up a bunch of times. Bean Bunny, Robin, [Uncle] Statler, [Uncle] Waldorf, and Janice also showed up on the show.

Nanny and Skeeter were the only chacters that did not have older puppet counter-parts.

Skeeter Muppet

09-04-2004, 11:16 AM

I've always imagined Skeeter as a regular cast of the Muppet Show. And I'd also imagine Jerry Nelson doing her voice so he could be part of the Muppet Babies as well.

No way; Karen Prell would be a much better voice for Skeeter than Jerry. I envision an adult Skeeter sounding somewhat like Red Fraggle given their similar personalities.

-Kim

Dantecat

09-30-2004, 03:19 PM

That's Right Disneys Muppets! Statler And Waldorf Appeared On Muppet Babies Too! But That Was Just Their Uncles! I Wonder Why????? :confused:

Lisa D

09-30-2004, 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Skeeter Muppet]No way; Karen Prell would be a much better voice for Skeeter than Jerry. I envision an adult Skeeter sounding somewhat like Red Fraggle given their similar personalities.

Couldn't agree with you more. Red seems like a really good comparisson to Skeeter. :excited:
And way to give props to Karen Prell by the way. We all love the boys, but sometimes I think people need reminding about how good the girls really are.

Lisa

Beauregard

10-11-2004, 01:04 PM

Bean was a regular, was he not? He's been in every episode I've seen so far.

I always thought Sam would make an excelent Muppet Baby

MustangRockstar

10-13-2004, 12:59 AM

McFraggle

10-13-2004, 11:08 PM

While I haven't seen it personally, she appeared in the later seasons around the early '90s. :)

The Count

10-14-2004, 01:47 PM

Get ready, gonna blow you guys out of the water.

1 Bean Bunny did appear on Muppet Babies, wearing a darker jacket than his normal puppet version. He also had these clearly defined eyes, like Piggy's, not beady little eyes.
He appeared on the later seasons, once they switched to the newer intro segments.
2 Toddler Janice did appear in only one episode. This was an episode with Bean Bunny as well, who was recognized by Toddler Janice because they saw each other at the center she would go to. The plot of the episode was that Bean wanted someone to read him his favorite story, the tale of Peter Cottontail. Janice said that she could read, to which the others were a bit amazed. Naturally Piggy became jealous and pretended she could read as well, when she couldn't. The funny part was seeing Piggy and Janice battle it out between each other as Mother Rabbit in the fantasy segments of the episode.
3 Robin did appear from about the second season onwards. He appeared as a tadpole in his water-filled glass bowl. He had two forms of talking: baby gibberish to most everyone else, and a baby-sounding normal internal thought voice. Robin and Animal formed a cute duo in the later season episodes.
4 Statler and Waldorf appeared in the later seasons, in their adult form much like the Palisades figures. They were brought in as the babies' uncles, most probably to get these two recognizable characters into the show.
5 Camilla was a stuffed chicken in the regular segments, but she came alive in the fantasy segments.
6 Baby Skeeter. There have been puppet sightings of this character in Muppet Babies nursery rhyme books and/or calendars. There's also a sighting of her behind the stairs in the home movies segment of MFC, but I'm not entirely sure on that one.
Agree that Karen Prell would be a good choice to voice Skeeter in either baby or adult form.
Hope this helps and have a good day.

McFraggle

10-14-2004, 11:08 PM

That's a good summary Count. :)

ExodiaTF1

10-15-2004, 05:18 PM

does anybody have pictures of baby janice , and statler w/ waldorf. also i must agree on skeeter being in a adult muppet show with a personality like red. :excited:

McFraggle

10-15-2004, 11:20 PM

This has a little bit more info.

http://members.kingston.net/chloe/Mup/MB_bios.html

bobhopesite

10-16-2004, 06:35 AM

I think thats good info.

McFraggle

10-17-2004, 08:55 PM

Thanks. :)

erniebert1234ss

10-18-2004, 08:12 AM

great info, mcfraggle. Lovely

WanJo SuLe

maxdrive

11-04-2004, 04:17 AM

does anybody have pictures of baby janice , and statler w/ waldorf. also i must agree on skeeter being in a adult muppet show with a personality like red. :excited:

id love to see what baby janice looked like as well

Frogpuppeteer

11-04-2004, 06:09 PM

just wondering has anyone ever made a skeeter muppet i would but im not that good plus maybe it would be a great fan art type also sent a pic in to the Jhc or disney they might get a kick out of it

The Count

11-04-2004, 06:17 PM

Actually... Now that you mention it FrogPuppeteer...
If you contact master Muppet customizer Quinn Rollins, aka here as "Gonzo", I'm sure you could get him to send you a photo of the custom Skeeter action figure he made.
Just to warn you, he used a regular S3 Scooter figure to make the custom, a plan that others like myself intend to follow, though our end results might differ slightly in interpretation.
Anyway, try contacting him and asking for a pic of the Skeeter custom figure. Hope this helps and have a good night.

McFraggle

11-04-2004, 09:36 PM

id love to see what baby janice looked like as well

I would too! :excited:

DanDanStrawberry

11-05-2004, 11:02 AM

If the CGI show goes ahead and Skeeter is on it then if a new Puppet Muppet* Show goes on, I think they'll incorperate Skeeter

* Puppet and Muppet ryhme!! Now I get it!!

christyb

11-15-2004, 05:28 PM

Here's a new thought....
I wonder if there was any intentions to bring in Skeeter into the Muppet Family. Others didn't appear until later shows (i.e. Pepe, Rizzo, etc) at least they didn't have major roles. Maybe Skeeter was going to be introduced (in adult form) at a later time and it just never happened. Then again maybe not. :confused:

maxdrive

11-17-2004, 06:39 PM

Rizzo was a part of the muppet show not a big part but he was there he got his big break in MTM as the main rat that worked in the diner

christyb

11-18-2004, 10:26 AM

Rizzo was a part of the muppet show not a big part but he was there he got his big break in MTM as the main rat that worked in the diner

I know. Besides it was just a thought. :)

Vic Romano

11-18-2004, 12:23 PM

The Robin as a tadpole thing kind of always bothered me in that it made them so close in age. I would like to see Statler and Waldorf. I vaguley remember the babies mentioning Uncle Statler and Uncle Waldorf (which I thought was very cool), or maybe it was Nanny talking to them on the phone as they were her friends, but I never saw them. Pictures would be cool. On a twisted side note, what kind of relationship did they torture baby Fozzie with?

McFraggle

11-27-2004, 09:19 PM

MeepEeep

02-05-2005, 04:55 PM

Speaking of Bunsen & Beaker's visits to the nursery. I remember there was one episode, where Rowlf played the tune to Row Row, Row Your Boat. Then Beaker sang along in meeps, like "Meep meep meepmeep meep, meep meep meep meep meeeeeep!"

unclematt

04-05-2005, 02:15 AM

They did do Baby Janice for one episode. I still haven't seen that one; any help?

BJ

Has anyone seen this one? I dont remember a Baby Janice.

Kimp the Shrimp

04-08-2005, 04:43 PM

The Count

04-08-2005, 05:39 PM

Man, I haven't been here in ages.
To clear up some points...
1 Imagine Statler and Waldorf from TMS, exactly as they appeared on TMS, but in animated form. That's how they appeared on Muppet Babies.
2 Baby Janice didn't make an a ppearance on Muppet Babies, cause technically she wasn't called "Baby Janice". She was more of a young toddler, she could already read which was something the other Muppet Babies hadn't mastered at that point, and she was friends with Baby Bean Bunny. That was sorta the point of the episode. Forget the name of it, but it was one where Baby Bean wanted to hear the tale of Peter Cottontail. Toddler Janice came into the nursery for the day and said she could read. The others were kinda surprised, and Janice went on to read and play Mother Cottontail. Of course, Piggy couldn't bear to be outdone, so she was playing a dueling Mother Cottontail to Janice's version.
Hope this helps and have a good weekend.

Beauregard

04-09-2005, 03:56 AM

Strange. I heard that Skeeter had to teach Janice how to read.

McFraggle

04-10-2005, 08:46 PM

Was that before or after Skeeter got sent to the Amazon? ;)

Beauregard

04-11-2005, 03:16 AM

Before. And she wasn't sent.

My belief is that Skeeter became a journelist and went to the Amazon to study something.

However, on the questian of her ever becoming a Muppet. I think she will. One day, she will. We just have to wait and see. But I know there is a Lot of interest from Muppet Fans for a Skeeter Muppet. She'll come eventually.

Also, someone else I'd like to see is Robin's dad, Kermit's brother.

Vic Romano

04-11-2005, 08:03 AM

There's also a sighting of her behind the stairs in the home movies segment of MFC, but I'm not entirely sure on that one.
I have got to check this out, I'm gonna' watch tonight and I'll report what I find.
Imagine Statler and Waldorf from TMS, exactly as they appeared on TMS, but in animated form. That's how they appeared on Muppet Babies.
Here's the age thing that bothers me, yes I know MB isn't considered Muppet Canon, but still, that crushes this age variable. Like McFraggle said, if Robin was around when Kermit was a toddler, he'd be in his late teens by TMS, and if :sleep: & :boo: appear as their same age in the cartoon, they'd be nearly 100 by TMS! I know it's not true Muppet history, I know I know, but that sort of thing just always got me.
As far as Skeeter is concerned, the direction Disney seems to be taking the Muppets, I wouldn't be surprised if she made it into the regular cast, or at least explained, I think that would be very cool, and make a lot of fans happy too.

unclematt

04-11-2005, 06:59 PM

I would love to see a Skeeter Muppet

Vic Romano

04-11-2005, 09:33 PM

Okay, after the rumor of Skeeter hiding in MFC in the Muppet Babies home video scene as stated by the Count, I watched said scene at least nine times and I can report with complete confidence, that if Skeets is in MFC, she is not in this scene. However, here are a few little things I did notice of interest that you may or may have not known:
* Baby Piggy is holding a Kermit plush, the Kermit plush is of Kermit as an adult though... weird, huh?
* Baby Scooter is holding a candy cane.
* Bunsen is watching the film, but Beaker is not with him. :confused:
* This scene takes place relatively early in the movie before the house really starts to get crowded, so it's really just the immediate Muppet family who's there, but guess who's got a seat right in front of the projector all cozy with the classics... Marvin Suggs.

Having studied just this section so thoroughly, I can tell you that I believe there are TONS of Easter Eggs in this classic, and I am now going to make it a point to really study this film and find them. :)

unclematt

04-11-2005, 09:58 PM

Vic, I think they were saying that a baby Janice is seen in MFC

Beauregard

04-12-2005, 02:11 AM

No, there was Definatly no baby Janice in MFC.

DerekJ

04-12-2005, 01:57 PM

But anyway, to answer the question after a year and a half--
The Saturday-morning network execs "needed" Skeeter as a positive female character in the cartoon, as the only single solitary other one in the cast was Baby Piggy, who clearly wasn't. :mad:

And as for Bean Bunny, this would've been around the time that Richard Hunt was retiring from (AIDS-related?) illness, so--even though "Tale of the Bunny Picnic" hadn't raised any particular blips on HBO's radar--Jim was planning to use Steve Whitmire's Bean as the official Scooter "replacement" go-fer in all future Show-related canon...
As evidenced by "Muppets Tonight", and the Disney park attraction.

Vic Romano

04-12-2005, 02:43 PM

DerekJ

04-12-2005, 05:06 PM

Wait a minute, are you saying Jim was anticipating Richard's death? That doesn't sound right, and beside, both Richard and Jim were both alive for MuppetVision 3d, Richard died after Jim, and Muppets Tonight was created after Jim died. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I think your sources are incorrect.

By the nature of what illness it turned out to be, it was fairly lingering, and had a few years' warning--
As is tradition with TV series, Jim let Rich direct the final episode of "Fraggle Rock" in '87-'88, possibly as a "retirement" present...And although Hunt's death wasn't until '92, he was reportedly already hospitalized when they had to record Statler's animatronic voice for the MV3D post-production in '90, and it was one of his last official contributions for the group. :boo:

Xerus

04-12-2005, 06:54 PM

unclematt

04-12-2005, 07:02 PM

DerekJ

04-12-2005, 07:21 PM

Also, in Muppetvision 3D, I heard John Henson was doing Sweetums instead of Richard.

Also, I noticed that after the Jim Henson Hour, Richard started doing the Wild Emphassario in The Ghost of Faffner Hall. It was probably one of Richard's final characters.

The MV3D film (and preshow, Scooter included) was from '89, while the final opening details weren't until '90--
IMDb lists Hunt as Beaker, Scooter and Statler--even though Scooter and Janice only make silent cameos in the actual movie--and John as taking over Sweetums' voice ("BUN-NYYY!!") all the way up to current projects...
(And no, not "John Henson of Talk Soup fame"--Sure would be funny if it was, though, wouldn't it?)

"Fafner Hall", OTOH was also '88-'89 for HBO, and therefore pre-Disney.

McFraggle

04-12-2005, 10:15 PM

No, there was Definatly no baby Janice in MFC.

I agree. :D

muppet_dk

04-13-2005, 12:45 AM

What is up with Scooter Now-a-days. Is he around and not heard or is someone else doing the voice? I remeber him in the latest Christmas movie dancing in a cage but I can not remember off the top of my head if he spoke or not. ;)
He did indeed speak in the last christmas movie. He is now performed by Brian Henson who is also performing Janice now.

unclematt

04-13-2005, 01:22 AM

Thanks Muppet dk

zeldazipple

06-30-2005, 08:53 PM

He did indeed speak in the last christmas movie. He is now performed by Brian Henson who is also performing Janice now.

Interesting that Brian is taking over Richard's parts. I wasn't expecting that at all but that's a really good thing. I think Brian has so much talent. :)

Toast

07-01-2005, 02:07 PM

Yes, he was spot on with Scooter's voice in MWoO

The Count

07-01-2005, 03:27 PM

Hmm... Was that rully Brian Henson voicing Scooter in MWoO? Cause other reports say it was Ricky Boyd of JHH fame.

muppet_dk

07-01-2005, 03:31 PM

Hmm... Was that rully Brian Henson voicing Scooter in MWoO? Cause other reports say it was Ricky Boyd of JHH fame.
You are right Count, Brian did not perform or voice scooter in MWoO. Brian was not on the set and Ricky Boyd did such a good job that they keept his voice for Scooter.

Beauregard

07-01-2005, 05:18 PM

- This is a Muppet News Plug -

Skeeter has a large part in my fan-fic What on the other side, in which she is caving, diving, and paractising kung-fo. If you are interested the fan-fic is to be found here (http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=13178).

- In other news...

HPDJ

07-02-2005, 03:19 AM

Skeeter is also going to be in "Muppets Big Brother 2"!

unclematt

07-02-2005, 11:41 PM

Is there any way of gettting a list of who did what voices in the movies. Especially with the talent having gne through such a transition since the deaths of Jim and Richard.

Evil Muppetman

10-18-2005, 05:24 AM

I never liked here, but i did prefer Baby Bunson and Baby Beaker over the muppet show version.

unclematt

10-19-2005, 01:34 PM

How could you not like Skeeter?

Kimp the Shrimp

10-24-2005, 12:52 PM

She was annoying ( yes i am Evil and the Crypt)

Frogster

10-25-2005, 02:54 PM

I'll tell ya why she wasn't a Muppet... cuz Howie Mandell did her voice! And Howie Mandell does not deserve to have anything to do with the Muppets.

unclematt

10-25-2005, 05:53 PM

I'll tell ya why she wasn't a Muppet... cuz Howie Mandell did her voice! And Howie Mandell does not deserve to have anything to do with the Muppets.
I guess it is too late. If heprovided the voice he all ready does.

Muppetfreak

11-22-2005, 09:44 AM

I always loved Skeeter, but that is besides the point. Though I liked her better when Frank Welker took over her voice since I find Howie Mandell annoying.

For a while it really looked like they were trying to make her a regular Muppet. Skeeter was a featured character in Muppet Kids (which never made it to TV), the McDonald's toys for that set and she was also featured in a set of books with the rest of the gang. I have always wondered if all those products hadn't come out right before Henson's death if she wouldn't have become a bigger deal.

The Muppets now a days are definately in need of some new (and more importantly) strong female characters and Miss Piggy can't hold the entire weight of that.

I would love to see Skeeter come back. I have always thought Karen Prell would be perfect for her.

Beauregard

11-22-2005, 10:29 AM

OMG! Yes! Karen Prell for Skeeter! Perrrfect!!!

We definatly need more females in the Muppets...Skeeter would be lovely!

unclematt

11-22-2005, 03:14 PM

Have we ever seen Skeeter as anything but a baby

Muppetfreak

11-22-2005, 03:29 PM

Skeeter was a featured character in Muppet Kids (which never made it to TV), the McDonald's toys for that set and she was also featured in a set of books with the rest of the gang.

She was about 10 or so in all of these thing and in the books she looked like a teen.

unclematt

11-22-2005, 03:42 PM

She was about 10 or so in all of these thing and in the books she looked like a teen.
I wish I would have seen these

zeldazipple

11-26-2005, 12:19 PM

Not that this will be halping much, but I used to own thses Muppet Kids books, and I think they did a great job on making Skeeter look older. Me personally didn't think she looked like a teen but she could have been a teen just playing a kid. I know I overanalize stuff but I do love Skeeter she's one of my fave muppet charecters. I think it's the fact that she is mysterious is why I think that's why a lot of us has this fasionatition for her charecter. Um... I think if there wasn't a mistery I don't think she would be talked about as much, but this is just my opinion. :)

unclematt

11-27-2005, 11:39 PM

Is Skeeter really a Muppet?

Kimp the Shrimp

11-28-2005, 08:29 AM

Have we ever seen Skeeter as anything but a baby

are you saying maybe she passed away b4 the Muppet show

Muppetfreak

11-29-2005, 01:00 AM

I have an insane theory... It involves a forbidden childhood crush on a blue weirdo followed by a divorce of parents that drove the twins apart....;)

zeldazipple

12-01-2005, 02:16 AM

Well my thory was that maybe something happened to Scooter and Skeeter's parents, what I'm not sure of, and maybe JP was left with the responabltie of raiseing them, but for soem reason didn't want Skeeter, But this might be a little far fetched.

Skeeter Muppet

12-01-2005, 11:13 AM

In my created backstory for Scooter for TM, he and Skeeter were raised by their uncle J.P. after the deaths of their parents. When Scooter went to the theatre and became Kermit's go-fer, Skeeter was getting ready for her trip to the Amazon. She left a week later, then two or three weeks after that came word that she had disappeared. Hence why Scooter isn't seen much in the first half or so of the first season; he and J.P. are trying to locate Skeeter.

-Kim

zeldazipple

01-08-2006, 01:37 PM

Makes sence. :)

muppetsforlife

08-11-2006, 01:45 PM

I say they should do the next muppet movie revolving around skeeter somehow. They could build the story around where she has been all this time. Or maybe the muppets could find out about where she has been and go on some sort of mission to find her. This way the muppets would actually be playing themselves. What do you guys think?

Muppet dude

08-11-2006, 05:22 PM

The whole Skeeter thing could make a great TV movie! Maybe they could finally make a Muppet of the adult Skeeter and give her a Muppet performer (I think Eric Jacobson or Marty Robinson would do.) It could also include a flashback with Scooter and Skeeter as babies! (hey, they made a poser-puppet of Baby Skeeter!)

muppetsforlife

08-11-2006, 05:25 PM

See I think so too. It's got a lot of potential if they build a movie around the idea of the muppets trying to locate Scooters twin Skeeter. They could make it some sort of action type movie with a big muppet rescue at the end.

Teheheman

08-11-2006, 10:58 PM

Here's my theory: Skeeter saw her parents get murdered and went into the Witness Protection program. Scooter never said anything for fear of her getting killed or worse. That's just me, it could have already been said, but that's what I think. A Skeeter movie would be great, probably a straight to DVD one or something cause I don't know if they have anymore theater appeal(to get $60 million which is how much a movie must make to be successful now-in-days)

Daniel

unclematt

11-08-2006, 04:50 PM

Love the fact that Skeeter was used in Vic newest art display

GuyGadoir

02-19-2007, 03:34 PM

Where Are They Now?:
Skeeter decided she didn't want to be a Muppet! She became a tour guide for the UN and then decided to become an ambassador to Lichtenstein. There she helped bring women's rights to the forefront, even reinstating women's voting rights. (Some of this is true.)

BabyScooter

07-13-2007, 11:19 AM

here is a picture of her when she is a adult in a muppet book she is in the back ground a brief cameo. she is in a kind of detective costume and looks just like she does in muppet babies only taller.

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/thumb/1/1a/AdultSkeeter.jpg/250px-AdultSkeeter.jpg (http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Image:AdultSkeeter.jpg)

;) +:excited: = skeeter

The Count

07-13-2007, 11:36 AM

Could you please post a textual descript for those of us who have trouble seeing photos on the computer? Thanks.

jacobsnchz

07-13-2007, 12:25 PM

I like how the Skeeter walk-around looks like form Muppet Babies Live!.

BabyScooter

07-13-2007, 12:25 PM

I edited my post so that should help. thx for letting me know i forgot some people can't see the picture.:sympathy:

Muppet dude

07-13-2007, 12:46 PM

I like how the Skeeter walk-around looks like form Muppet Babies Live!.

That's because the Muppet Babies walk-around costumes for that show were designed by the Jim Henson Company! The others resemble how they appeared in "I'm Gonna Always Love You" in "The Muppets Take Manhattan," as well as on "A Muppet Family Christmas."

Rose

07-24-2007, 02:15 PM

DOAH! Looks like you beat me to it. lol :) I saw this excat pic and was going to post it here. Yeah I think that's what she might have looked like if she was so be come an adult Muppet. The only thing that bugs me a little is the old fashioned clothing.
Makes her look like she's plaine Jane or something like that, but than again Skeeter was always kind of plaine looking to begin with.

here is a picture of her when she is a adult in a muppet book she is in the back ground a brief cameo. she is in a kind of detective costume and looks just like she does in muppet babies only taller.

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/thumb/1/1a/AdultSkeeter.jpg/250px-AdultSkeeter.jpg (http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Image:AdultSkeeter.jpg)

;) +:excited: = skeeter

dwayne1115

07-25-2007, 07:32 AM

Muppet Babies Live! when was that ever around and how did i miss it? Is there like any video of it on Youtube or somthing?

unclematt

08-06-2007, 03:02 AM

What book is that picture from and is it confirmed that that is her or could it just be a coincidence that they look alike

Beauregard

08-07-2007, 05:47 AM

It looks pretty much like her. But Muppet picture books arn't necessarily cannon, so it doesn't mean that she is definately a policeman when she grows up.

Although I can totally see her a tough, private eye...

The Count

08-07-2007, 07:14 AM

If you want a true official cannon version of grown-up Skeeter... And this was according to the article at Muppet Wiki... Try searching for a mint in bag set of 1998 Muppets Winter toy vehicles from Hardee's. She was never featured as one of the toys, but the JHC did the artwork for the bags and those had a grown-up version of Skeeter.
Good luck and let the hunt begin!

Beauregard

08-07-2007, 08:05 AM

I remember that. I think I saw a picture of her once. I have no idea if there is one floating around the internet of her now, though....hmmm...

I wonder if Jim Lewis would answer a question about her...

GSmiley2007

08-31-2007, 03:15 PM

The picture of the adult Skeeter, I'm told, was from "You've Still Got Me", per Muppet Wiki.

Also, I have to say that I have to agree with Karen Prell doing Skeeter, given that both Skeeter and Red Fraggle have athletic personalities (if you notice in one of my fan-fic sketches, I described our proposed adult Skeeter's voice as a "Red Fraggle-type"). ;-)

On the other hand, if we had a guy doing Skeeter, I'd picture Marty Robinson or even Kevin Clash doing her (I've often thought of her adult voice being a cross between Elmo's and Benny Rabbit's).

unclematt

09-01-2007, 07:34 PM

I would think she would sound a little like Scooter

Drtooth

09-08-2007, 07:54 PM

Here's something I bet no one has covered....

Muppet Babies is an alternate universe time line of how the Muppets came to know each other. As is evident that they only appeared in Baby form in MTM, during Miss Piggy's fantasy. Of course, this doesn't explain why they have home movies of them as babies in MFC, but let's say it was the edited version where you don't really get to see it.'

Now, because it's an alternate universe, Skeeter doesn't exist. She is only a product of an alternate universe time line of actual events.

The Count

09-08-2007, 08:29 PM

Ah... But they did grow up together, sort of... Just go and read ReneeLouvier's Sadie's Stories. Sure it's just fanfiction, but it helps explain things rather neatly and nicely.

heralde

09-08-2007, 09:21 PM

Hehe, yeah the old debate of Muppet canon. The thing is, the Muppets carried on the grand tradition of Vaudeville and 1930s movies. Where character actors and comedians played the same personalities over and over again in different stories and different situations. For instance the Marx Brothers basically played the same characters in all of their films, just with different names and different jobs.

Same with the Muppets. Same characters, different situations. We're not really used to it nowadays because that's not the kind of entertainment we've grown up with. :)

ReneeLouvier

09-14-2007, 11:02 PM

Thanks for the plug for my fanfiction, Ed.

The Count

09-15-2007, 05:14 AM

Any time Sara. *Hugs to my li'l cousin.

abiraniriba

09-15-2007, 07:50 AM

;) Hi guys I was Ab's house today, and he showed me this odd thread, and after cleaning off the chair from the last time :grouchy: sat on it I decided to clear up this little mystery. As you know according TMM I was originally a roadie for The Electric Mayhem. My sister Skeeter worked with them for a while too, however soon after they took up residence in the abandoned Presbyterian church you see them in on TMM she got itchy feet, I told her to go buy some Tinactin, at first but then she explained to me that she just wanted to move on, and follow her real dream which was exploring the world. The Electric Mayhem gave her a big farewell concert and she left. I haven't seen her since. I have gotten an occasional letter, however, lately she's been doing a lot of mountain climbing. Here's a partial transcript of one from Mount Washington New Hampshire where I'm told they have the World's Worst Weather:

:smirk: RAIN, SNOW, SLEET, HAIL, 400 MPH WINDS, that's a run-down of the weather I've seen this past week, and this is the best one yet of this month I've spent on top of this place, not to mention what I saw climbing up it. Anyhow, I hope this letter gets to you as the mailbox I put it in just blew away.

The box itself landed at Ab's place soon after he decided to only let us visit one at a time rather than a whole bunch at once, cool huh?

Jacquelyn

10-04-2007, 05:27 PM

I was born in '88 so I grew up in the Muppet Babies era.. I remember Bean Bunny and Statler and Waldorf and Robin... but I don't remember Janice. I would LOVE to see that episode. Is it on youtube or for sale or anything? I can't imagine her as a toddler. :flirt:

Beauregard

10-06-2007, 07:43 AM

I'm interested to know what her voice would have sounded like...Similar to Rowlf's, I imagine...

Muppet dude

10-06-2007, 08:05 AM

Since Janice was always performed by a man (mostly Richard Hunt), they got Dave Coulier to voice Janice there.

GSmiley2007

10-06-2007, 08:35 AM

Anyone got audio of Baby Janice speaking? I'm curious to know how Dave's voice sounded performing her...

Beauregard

10-06-2007, 08:40 AM

Ok, so, I'm sure this has been covered befre but...Why didn't the Muppeteers do the real voices? Were they still producing the Muppet Show? I know that Muppet Babies was released after Muppet's Take Manhatten, so technically there were no more classic Muppet movies being made. Were they busy on SS? Certainly Dave wasn't. What were they doing?

Drtooth

10-12-2007, 02:56 PM

I GET IT! I GET IT! I think I got it now. A witch cast a spell on her, and she turned into a Fraggle. And I bet you can guess which one I'm thinking of... :excited:

Mr Devco

10-12-2007, 07:20 PM

She reminds me of Red Fraggle

heralde

10-12-2007, 07:29 PM

Beauregard

10-14-2007, 11:38 AM

I think Piggy balanced Skeeter rather well, so the tomboy thing didn't go too far.

Drtooth

10-26-2007, 02:15 PM

That's actually pretty typical when TV shows make the effort to include a female character. They don't want her to appear too "girly" because that might offend people. So they make her a full blown tom boy. Which is also problematic in my opinion heh, but at least Red and Skeeter were good characters. :excited:

Too true. let's not forget about Venus DiMilo in the Live action ninja Turtles. or better yet. Let us DO forget her and never bring it up again.

Funny about her being a girl's role model, considering Skeeter was voiced by a man. I say that knowing full well Gonzo, Robin and Rowlf were voiced by women.

heralde

10-26-2007, 02:18 PM

Too true. let's not forget about Venus DiMilo in the Live action ninja Turtles. or better yet. Let us DO forget her and never bring it up again.

Agreed! Hehe

Funny about her being a girl's role model, considering Skeeter was voiced by a man. I say that knowing full well Gonzo, Robin and Rowlf were voiced by women.

Yeah at this point, there is so much gender switching in voice acting, there's no point in dwelling on it, lol.

Muppet dude

10-26-2007, 03:44 PM

And Baby Piggy was voiced by a woman, so her voice sounded odd (I'm more used to a man voicing Piggy), but not as odd as Baby Gonzo's girlish voice.

GSmiley2007

10-26-2007, 09:57 PM

And I'll admit, Katie Leigh's voice for Baby Rowlf isn't really odd at all... I mean, Baby Rowlf really doesn't sound that feminine when you listen to him talk. :-)

BTW, who do you think should've done some other cartoon baby versions of Muppets who weren't Muppet babies? (I know someone had a great suggestion to do Katie as a baby Dr. Teeth, and I had a great suggestion to do Greg as a baby Bert, too [I mean, Bert's voice and Fozzie's voice are exactly the same! :-D])

Also, what do you think they'd be interested in? My opinions:

Baby Ernie - could've been interested in messy stuff

Baby Bert - could've been interested in birds (mainly pigeons), and he'd have a stuffed toy version of Bernice (who, like Camilla, would come to life in imagination segments)

Baby Cookie Monster - no changes, he just loves food, mainly cookies

Baby Big Bird - could've been interested in reading, like Baby Janice

Baby Gobo - Could've been interested in exploring, just like Baby Kermit. Imagine the two of them arguing over who should be the leader! :-D

Baby Mokey - could've been interested in art, mainly finger-painting. I'd also picture a bow in her turquoise-colored hair (like Piggy's, but a darker shade of pink)

Baby Red - She'd have loved her toys. And imagine her forming a friendship with Skeeter.

Baby Tutter - loves cheese

That's about all I can come up with. ;-)

Also, I can only hope that one day, Skeeter will be a live-action grown-up Muppet. :-D We all wish, don't we? ;-)

Alpha Centauri

10-27-2007, 12:06 AM

I always thought it would be interesting if they made a 'Fraggle Babies' cartoon.

GSmiley2007

10-27-2007, 09:19 AM

I always thought it would be interesting if they made a 'Fraggle Babies' cartoon.

Heh... I wonder how the opening intro would've went... also wonder who would do the voices (if they couldn't get the Muppeteers themselves to perform them)...

My suggestions:

Tom Kenny as a baby Gobo :smirk: (I pictured his voice sounding like either SpongeBob SquarePants or Pat the Hammer from Handy Manny) and Junior Gorg (his voice might be like that of Cliff from CatDog, which would definitely sound better than the voice Michael Laskin used for Junior on the cartoon Fraggle Rock [I saw the cartoon version's intro, and I do not like Junior's voice in that... he's supposed to sound big and dumb, not like he's one of the Muppet Babies!])

Russi Taylor as a baby Wembley (his voice might sound like Huey, Dewey, and Louie from the DuckTales era) and a baby Gunge (his voice would be like Baby Gonzo's)

Rob Paulsen as a baby Boober (if Rob can do the grown-up Boober in the Fraggle Rock cartoon really well, he can do a baby version of the Fraggle, too [but with a voice similar to either Carl Wheezer from Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius or Yakko Warner of the Animaniacs]) and a younger Trash Heap (haven't heard the cartoon TH yet, but it sounds like people enjoy that voice)

Sarah Heinke (currently the voice of Strawberry Shortcake, who ironically, was voiced by Russi Taylor back in the '80s) as a baby Red :excited: (I imagined her voice being like the current Strawberry Shortcake, only slightly deeper)

Chantal Strand (voiced Cassie [the little pink dragon] from Dragon Tales) as a baby Mokey (I've often thought of a baby Mokey voice being similar to the pink dragon)

Grey DeLisle as a baby Philo (her voice could sound like Vicky's little sister Tootie from The Fairly OddParents)

Frank Welker as a baby Sprocket and a younger Pa Gorg, maybe a slightly younger Traveling Matt

Laurie O'Brien as a baby Cotterpin Doozer (I think her voice would sound like Baby Piggy's) and a slightly younger Ma Gorg

What's your suggestions? ;) Also, I wonder who'll get to do Junior Gorg and Gunge now for the Fraggle Rock movie, since Richard Hunt has been dead for so long... (I could imagine David Rudman doing Gunge, though) And I can only hope for Jerry to do Gobo, Pa Gorg, and the all-knowing Trash Heap again. ;-)

Drtooth

10-31-2007, 12:55 PM

And Baby Piggy was voiced by a woman, so her voice sounded odd (I'm more used to a man voicing Piggy), but not as odd as Baby Gonzo's girlish voice.

Well, I will say that some of the vocal characterizations sounded closer when they first premired. Baby Gonzo and Baby Rowlf especially. But the voice artists relaxed into their roles.

I always liked Russi's Gonzo voice. It was like a different spin on her Huey, Dewey and Louie in Ducktales. Plus it did have that gonzo squawk sound to it. You know, the voice Gonzo used to have.

I think that they all did a great job vocally caracaturing the Muppet voices as babies. Piggy really was close, dispite the sound difference.

GSmiley2007

11-02-2007, 09:13 AM

Grey DeLisle as a baby Philo (her voice could sound like Vicky's little sister Tootie from The Fairly OddParents)

Oops, meant to say that Philo was a male character. ;-) (But Grey is a female...)

wwfpooh

11-11-2007, 04:55 AM

Heh... I wonder how the opening intro would've went...

It'd probably have the same lyrics, but wouldn't have Gobo going out and getting postcards yet. And in that, I could also see Red showing her attention-seeking side by stating what she thinks is best (for Red is always one to speak her mind rather aggressively), resulting in the usual tiffs between her and Gobo.

GSmiley2007

11-19-2007, 10:37 PM

Oh, and I don't want to forget Katie Leigh doing baby versions of Cantus the Minstrel and Convincing John, either. ;-)

BTW, what'd you think of my suggestions for voices if the original FR Muppeteers couldn't do them? ;)

Muppet dude

11-20-2007, 06:54 AM

Well, I will say that some of the vocal characterizations sounded closer when they first premired. Baby Gonzo and Baby Rowlf especially. But the voice artists relaxed into their roles.

I always liked Russi's Gonzo voice. It was like a different spin on her Huey, Dewey and Louie in Ducktales. Plus it did have that gonzo squawk sound to it. You know, the voice Gonzo used to have.

I think that they all did a great job vocally caracaturing the Muppet voices as babies. Piggy really was close, dispite the sound difference.

You know, I think if Laurie O' Brien was unavailable to voice Baby Piggy, Russi Taylor could easily fill in the role. Her voice is a bit similar to Russi's Minnie Mouse, and when Piggy gets angry it sounds strangely similar to Baby Gonzo ;)

GSmiley2007

11-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Come to think of it, Laurie hasn't done any voice acting in recent years, has she? ;-)

(Like I said, I hope Skeeter will grow up, and I hope Karen can do her. :-))

wwfpooh

11-23-2007, 04:23 PM

(Like I said, I hope Skeeter will grow up, and I hope Karen can do her. :-))

Just as long as it doesn't cue a love triangle like the toon did.

GSmiley2007

11-24-2007, 10:49 AM

Just as long as it doesn't cue a love triangle like the toon did.

It wouldn't. I'd have Skeeter falling in love with Clifford. I mean, in our fan-fics, we tend to make Clifford Skeeter's boyfriend! ;)

And noticing how Skeeter and Janice seemed to be paired up a bit on the "Whose Tale is it Anyway?" episode of Muppet Babies, as well as in the Muppet Kids books, I'd probably have Skeeter become sort of a foil and best friend to Janice, much like Rizzo is to Gonzo. (Fer sure! :flirt: )

BTW, just out of curiosity, who's representing the "zany" emoticon in the Smilie table?

Muppet dude

11-24-2007, 11:54 AM

Don't forget that Skeeter and Piggy were arch-rivals as well! :mad: ;)

GSmiley2007

11-24-2007, 02:40 PM

Oh, yeah! I could always see a "Veterenarian's Hospital" sketch done where Nurse Piggy is fired, and Nurse Skeeter takes her place... and she tells some REALLY odd jokes, maybe even odder than Dr. Bob's. Of course, Nurse Piggy tries to get her job back, but eventually, she gets it back, and she welcomes Nurse Skeeter to the group. However, outside the sketch, Miss Piggy and Skeeter could be arguing over who's the best female lead on the show, and Janice could try to stop the argument, but to no avail. :mad: ;) :flirt:

cherrypotion27

11-24-2007, 03:20 PM

Heh... I wonder how the opening intro would've went... also wonder who would do the voices (if they couldn't get the Muppeteers themselves to perform them)...

My suggestions:

Tom Kenny as a baby Gobo :smirk: (I pictured his voice sounding like either SpongeBob SquarePants or Pat the Hammer from Handy Manny) and Junior Gorg (his voice might be like that of Cliff from CatDog, which would definitely sound better than the voice Michael Laskin used for Junior on the cartoon Fraggle Rock [I saw the cartoon version's intro, and I do not like Junior's voice in that... he's supposed to sound big and dumb, not like he's one of the Muppet Babies!])

Russi Taylor as a baby Wembley (his voice might sound like Huey, Dewey, and Louie from the DuckTales era) and a baby Gunge (his voice would be like Baby Gonzo's)

Rob Paulsen as a baby Boober (if Rob can do the grown-up Boober in the Fraggle Rock cartoon really well, he can do a baby version of the Fraggle, too [but with a voice similar to either Carl Wheezer from Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius or Yakko Warner of the Animaniacs]) and a younger Trash Heap (haven't heard the cartoon TH yet, but it sounds like people enjoy that voice)

Sarah Heinke (currently the voice of Strawberry Shortcake, who ironically, was voiced by Russi Taylor back in the '80s) as a baby Red :excited: (I imagined her voice being like the current Strawberry Shortcake, only slightly deeper)

Chantal Strand (voiced Cassie [the little pink dragon] from Dragon Tales) as a baby Mokey (I've often thought of a baby Mokey voice being similar to the pink dragon)

Grey DeLisle as a baby Philo (her voice could sound like Vicky's little sister Tootie from The Fairly OddParents)

Frank Welker as a baby Sprocket and a younger Pa Gorg, maybe a slightly younger Traveling Matt

Laurie O'Brien as a baby Cotterpin Doozer (I think her voice would sound like Baby Piggy's) and a slightly younger Ma Gorg

What's your suggestions? ;) Also, I wonder who'll get to do Junior Gorg and Gunge now for the Fraggle Rock movie, since Richard Hunt has been dead for so long... (I could imagine David Rudman doing Gunge, though) And I can only hope for Jerry to do Gobo, Pa Gorg, and the all-knowing Trash Heap again. ;-)

On the subject of Russi Taylor doing Strawberry Shortcake in the 80's, is that also her doing SS's voice on the "Strawberry Shortcake in The Big Apple" (I think thats what it was called) record? My sis has that old record and plays it for her kids.

Dantecat

11-24-2007, 06:35 PM

And Don't forget,Russi also played Birdie from McDonalds.;)

wwfpooh

11-25-2007, 08:57 AM

And Don't forget,Russi also played Birdie from McDonalds.;)

And of course, we know her now as Minnie's voice.

unclematt

12-11-2007, 11:14 PM

I wish I had a voice for cartoons. I know I have a face for it.

wwfpooh

12-11-2007, 11:25 PM

I wish I had a voice for cartoons. I know I have a face for it.

I'd be the opposite. I could do voicing well, but might not have the face for TV Land, as it were.

unclematt

12-11-2007, 11:28 PM

I was saying that nobody would want to see me. Thats why I had a voice for cartoons. I wasnt being conceded.

wwfpooh

12-11-2007, 11:32 PM

I was saying that nobody would want to see me.Who knows? One really doesn't know what'll happen until one tries out the thing they're aiming for.

unclematt

12-11-2007, 11:37 PM

Who knows? One really doesn't know what'll happen until one tries out the thing they're aiming for.

True that

wwfpooh

12-11-2007, 11:39 PM

True thatAnd this is something that applies--not just to Muppetdom--but in all aspects of life, as well.

unclematt

12-11-2007, 11:44 PM

but man do I love Muppetdom

wwfpooh

12-12-2007, 12:13 AM

but man do I love MuppetdomOf course. We all do. That's why we're here.

unclematt

12-12-2007, 12:14 AM

You are so right

Teheheman

12-12-2007, 12:26 AM

I was saying that nobody would want to see me. Thats why I had a voice for cartoons. I wasnt being conceded.
I have that same problem, I mean, people tell me all the time I have the perfect face for radio

Daniel

unclematt

12-12-2007, 12:34 AM

You know what I am saying

wwfpooh

12-12-2007, 12:46 AM

You know what I am sayingBoth of you shouldn't let what others think stop you from doing something you may enjoy doing (that is, unless it breaks laws, of course).

unclematt

12-12-2007, 01:07 AM

I have a great voice for radio for sure. That opportunity just has not presented itself yet. I have thought about it alot.

wwfpooh

12-12-2007, 01:25 AM

But back to the original topic...I think Skeeter is not a Muppet because she'd cause fights with Piggy and because she was only in the cartoon in the first place to give Piggy someone to play off of.

unclematt

12-12-2007, 01:27 AM

It depends on what type of role they gave her. If she was antagonistic it wouldnt work because you all ready have that with piggy but if you made her the brainy female counterpart it might be able to go somewhere

wwfpooh

12-12-2007, 11:28 AM

Rose

12-28-2007, 12:57 PM

Allthought no one really know for sure why Skeeter isnt a ' Muppet ' so to speak. Sure there probably was no um P word verson of her * joke to all JHH fans. * My thory is that she probably didn't care much for being in the spotlight tobegin with and choose not to be a ' part of the cast ' I'm sure she's lurking around someplace.

But back to the original topic...I think Skeeter is not a Muppet because she'd cause fights with Piggy and because she was only in the cartoon in the first place to give Piggy someone to play off of.

unclematt

12-28-2007, 05:25 PM

Skeeter should be a Muppet. She doesnt even have to inteact with Piggy all that much. She could just be used as a supporting player such as Sam and the Swedish Chef.

Redsonga

02-07-2008, 08:17 PM

Allthought no one really know for sure why Skeeter isnt a ' Muppet ' so to speak. Sure there probably was no um P word verson of her * joke to all JHH fans. * My thory is that she probably didn't care much for being in the spotlight tobegin with and choose not to be a ' part of the cast ' I'm sure she's lurking around someplace.

Of course, not everyone in Scooters family might want to be in show business . But you know, there was never anything that said he did'nt have a sister, so Skeeter could still be 'real' overall :).

Alpha Centauri

02-08-2008, 09:55 AM

That's true.

Teheheman

02-08-2008, 03:25 PM

I think she's on the Lost island, and that's why you don't see her. She was caught and trapped by the Others lol.

Daniel

Redsonga

02-08-2008, 03:38 PM

I think she's on the Lost island, and that's why you don't see her. She was caught and trapped by the Others lol.

Daniel
Along with every other muppet that's not being shown on tv anymore (I wonder where they put them all?):confused:

unclematt

03-05-2008, 04:17 PM

They are starting to bring back some of those Muppets that we had not seen in awhile.

zakima2

03-23-2008, 04:10 AM

actually there was one episode only of the muppet show that featured skeeter. Scooter introduced her to kermit as his long lost twin sister. I have the vhs tape of the show... its kinda funny cause I just found while looking througha bunch of my old stuff. but yes there was an episode which featured skeeter.

If I can find a way to upload it into youtube I will let you all know. as for now its late and I really need sleep. Also has anyone sprung for the fraggle rock animated series from australia yet? I know I am going to get that soon. I miss that show alot. Also I might get the season 4. Just to please my inner child.
so good night and happy easter to all and to all a good night.
weirdo signing off.

Teheheman

03-23-2008, 02:47 PM

Wow, interesting, I didn't know that. What season is that? I wouldn't mind getting that season JUST to see the Skeeter muppet.

Daniel

GSmiley2007

03-24-2008, 03:48 PM

I'm shocked! :eek:

But I'm also excited to hear that. :excited: (Woo-hoo-hoo!)

unclematt

03-24-2008, 03:55 PM

Thats amazing. I thought there was no Skeeter Mupper ever. I am super excited to hear that. Please give us more info or let us know if you are able to put it up on youtube.

wemblingalong

05-06-2008, 01:29 PM

Wow! I have wondered for YEARS about Skeeter and why she was never a muppet. Now that I know she was actually on The Muppet Show, I want to see it! Let us know if you get it up on You Tube! ;)

unclematt

05-08-2008, 08:56 PM

That guy hasnt been on since. I highly doubt that Skeeter existed. You have a ton of more than avid Muppet fans on here and for him to be the only that knows about this I fing very hard to believe. I am going to go back to believing that Skeeter was not a Muppet until I can be proved wrong.

AAO

12-24-2008, 11:04 PM

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Skeeter

this shoudl answer your questions

unclematt

01-04-2009, 05:27 PM

Never a mention of Skeeter on the Muppet Show.

Redsonga

01-04-2009, 05:48 PM

Never a mention of Skeeter on the Muppet Show.

But then they never said anything about the supporting characters families anyway, so she could have been real all along :)

AnimatedC9000

01-04-2009, 06:01 PM

I asked Jim Lewis about Skeeter once. Here's my question and his response:

From AnimatedC9000…
“I would like to see more of the go-fer as well, Jim. My question, however, concerns the go-fer's twin sister. If it were up to you, would you make Skeeter an official part of the Muppet family?”

JIM RESPONDS: NO. WHY? NOT REALLY SURE, TO BE HONEST. IT COULD WORK, BUT I STILL SEE HER AS A MUPPET BABY, A BALANCE FOR SCOOTER (HIS BOOKISHNESS TO HER TOM BOY-ISHNESS). I GUESS IF SHE COULD BE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING MORE, A FORCE IN HER OWN RIGHT AS AN ADULT, IT MIGHT WORK. BUT I’M NOT CONVINCED. PLUS, I’M LAZY, WHICH IS WHY I’M GOING TO STOP THINKING ON THIS TOO MUCH BEFORE MY HEAD STARTS TO HURT.

So... there you have it. An answer from a Muppet writer.

Redsonga

01-04-2009, 09:33 PM

So it would work just fine he's just too lazy to talk about it :P *hee*. I think she could still balance him out as an adult..though it is weird he never seemed as bookish as an adult to me as he was as a baby so her character could be different to :)...
I think she has more going for her character than many of the new muppets that have been made since..I mean Miss. Piggy hardly has anyone to stop her from pushing them around now as it is, it might be nice to see her actually have to work for the spotlight again ;).

RedPiggy

01-05-2009, 09:00 AM

So it would work just fine he's just too lazy to talk about it :P *hee*. I think she could still balance him out as an adult..though it is weird he never seemed as bookish as an adult to me as he was as a baby so her character could be different to :)...
I do despise when paid writers admit they're lazy. It's not like when we fanfic writers take a sabbatical. It's true that Scooter's not as big of a geek as his baby form, but she could still balance him by not being a suck-up. I characterized her as someone who disliked theater (issues from that Snow White ep maybe -- after all, that was the episode I based her off of) and strove to be nothing like Piggy (not realizing she had just become an "athlete Piggy"). I couldn't see her (at the moment) as a regular cast member, but I could see her hired as a physical fitness consultant or hired to do sketches of aerobics parodies (and, even better, you could add Piggy to have even more fun).

I think she has more going for her character than many of the new muppets that have been made since..I mean Miss. Piggy hardly has anyone to stop her from pushing them around now as it is, it might be nice to see her actually have to work for the spotlight again ;).
I agree. Annie Sue didn't make it as a rival. However, there's enough history from Muppet Babies to bring in Skeeter.

unclematt

01-05-2009, 03:34 PM

I understand that she could work as an adult Muppet but my point is that she never was an adult Muppet even though we were led to believe otherwise.

RedPiggy

01-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Well, to be honest, I forgot the original purpose of the thread because eventually it turned into "if Skeeter would work"

unclematt

01-05-2009, 04:11 PM

I know Red Pigy, Sorry didnt mean to make it feel like I was calling you out.

RedPiggy

01-05-2009, 04:12 PM

de nada

I'm cool :D

Teheheman

01-05-2009, 06:23 PM

Personally, I think that Skeeter COULD work as a Muppet and I'll tell you why. It would make more use out of Scooter rather than him just be a background character, have him fighting or doing something with his sister would make a great little thing if the chemistry is right.

Daniel

Redsonga

01-05-2009, 07:21 PM

That's true, since he seems to be one of the only muppets to have been really have that relationship..and it might give him more of a background story to :)

unclematt

01-06-2009, 12:18 AM

I think Skeeter could work but before they try to develop Skeeter they need to fix the problems they are having with Scooter.

RedPiggy

01-06-2009, 07:37 AM

It's possible, though, that the only way to fix him (and come to think of it, LTS Scooter might very well be "Baby Scooter" aged a bit, since it's closer to Baby Scooter's voice than Adult Scooter's) is to give him something to do or someone to play off of. Robin has Kermit and Sweetums. Piggy has Kermit (and other pigs and Bean and such). Gonzo has Rizzo, Camilla, Kermit, and Fozzie. Who has been Scooter's buddy? Sometimes in TMS it seems as though he gets along with Fozzie, but he's always subservient to everyone else he talks to. He's apparently not the EM manager anymore. Giving him a headstrong sister might just make him interesting again. And if it's true we're going for a more "adult Baby-Scooter" thing going on (come on, outside of LTS, when has Scooter had a computer?), then Skeeter is an obvious choice to develop Scooter.

Beauregard

01-06-2009, 07:41 AM

Scooter always used to have a good relationship with Piggy. She'd get him to do her secret tasks. She doesn't really have anyone like that these days...She's kinda a loner now.

RedPiggy

01-06-2009, 07:44 AM

She uses Bean more for that kind of stuff. In VMX it's Bean, not Scooter, helping her pack.

Beauregard

01-06-2009, 07:49 AM

I see what you mean about Scooter becoming a grown-up version of Baby Scooter. And if you think about it, Baby Scooter was moved into that bookish-computer-geek character because that was what the series was missing, and that's why they also invented Skeeter because it was missing a foil for Piggy. I suppose that's why grown-up Scooter is changing to fill in the parts that are potentially missing from the Muppet group now. (A computer geek). But I would never have thought he'd be that kind of character...

...on TMS he always thought that he was in control, even though he was subserviant. And that subtle difference was what made him HIM. To be honest...and usually I never say this...He is one character that I don't think can be recast properly, because he embodied everything that was Richard Hunt. And similar to their not recasting Rowlf for so long, becuase he's Jim's iconic character.

I think the closest he's been to himself recently was profiting from Gonzo's alienisity and selling Gonzo t-shirts. Closest voice as well.

unclematt

01-06-2009, 06:20 PM

I thought Scooter sounded fine in VMX and Oz but he digressed in LTS

RedPiggy

01-06-2009, 06:45 PM

More like "regressed" ... the more I dwell on it, the more I convince myself we're seeing a return of Baby Scooter, at least in terms of personality and voice.

Redsonga

01-06-2009, 07:40 PM

More like "regressed" ... the more I dwell on it, the more I convince myself we're seeing a return of Baby Scooter, at least in terms of personality and voice.

I don't think that is really a bad thing :)(but then I liked and knew him a lot more as a baby than as an adult since I hardly saw any of TMS when I was little)..at least he is getting some sort of character again, he seemed a little lost lately...

Teheheman

01-06-2009, 07:56 PM

Well, he seems to be more of a background, one liner type character. TOO one dimensional. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more dimensions out of him.

Daniel

RedPiggy

01-06-2009, 08:09 PM

I don't think that is really a bad thing :)(but then I liked and knew him a lot more as a baby than as an adult since I hardly saw any of TMS when I was little)..at least he is getting some sort of character again, he seemed a little lost lately...

Must ... resist ... Krishna ... joke ... not ... resisting ... well ...

Edit: I remember TMS, but as a geek, I preferred geek Scooter to suck-up Scooter.

unclematt

01-07-2009, 04:16 AM

I would prefer any Scooter to no Scooter at all. I just think they had had the voice right. And then all of a sudden it wasnt.

unclematt

01-09-2009, 11:50 PM

Well tell Michael Frith to find her.

Redsonga

01-11-2009, 08:32 PM

They'd have to find a performer for the puppet they would have to build for her and with her go-fer geek brother relapsing into a mode unseen for years (i.e. he's becoming less of a main character again), what would Skeeter do once she was to appear?

Make him more of a main character :) Actually I think he going forward not back:excited:

unclematt

01-11-2009, 10:53 PM

I think bringing in a Skeeter Muppet would do nothing but help push Scooter to the forefront.

unclematt

01-11-2009, 11:31 PM

I would never expect her to be more than a Janice.

unclematt

01-11-2009, 11:37 PM

but the best part is she can evolve into whatever they want her to be without a big story

unclematt

01-12-2009, 01:36 AM

I really dont think that has that much of a bearing on the whole scheme of her coming into the story

RedPiggy

01-12-2009, 08:09 AM

But Piggy could use a good foil. Annie Sue tried but was too sweet. Skeeter is just "athletic Piggy". They have similar personalities, and the best part is that Skeeter's in denial.

Scooter's in the background because he has nothing to do. Lots of characters have associated characters to go with them. Even though TMS Scooter got along with other characters, who really came to mind when you thought of Scooter? He could use a sister if they can't find someone else to pair him with. You could even make it a special. You could even make it just a bunch of webisodes. Not a few of us think Karen Prell would be pretty much a shoe-in, since Skeeter and Red share a lot of characteristics and one can easily imagine adult Scooter sounding kind of like Red (personally, I would do it deeper, but that's me).

The quest for Skeeter could give Scooter's performer some much needed practice. We'll never see Scooter become well-rounded again if we don't give him a plot.

unclematt

01-12-2009, 03:32 PM

So do I and think the introduction of a twin sister could do that.

Teheheman

01-12-2009, 06:58 PM

Well, all of us Muppet geeks and children of the 80s really don't NEED the introduction now do we? We already KNOW he has a twin. Now, it's just the adulterization of the character. I know I just made up a word, but whatever, it fits dangnabit.

Daniel

unclematt

01-12-2009, 07:49 PM

We still need the introduction of an actual Muppet version of her. That is all I was saying.

bazooka_beak

01-13-2009, 01:06 PM

I guess we can all just assume she's off exploring jungles and is too busy or doesn't really feel like taking part in her brother's work (ie. movies, TV shows, CDs, etc. with the Muppets) ;)

Teheheman

01-13-2009, 05:49 PM

Maybe she's not speaking to her brother because she did something or he did something that made them fight and not speak to each other anymore.

Daniel

unclematt

01-13-2009, 06:13 PM

Thats what I meant. There can be any excuse in the world for Skeeters absence. But there can be any story in the world for the reason why she returned, and there doesnt have to be any big story explaining it. The Muppets are zany enough where just about everything could be believable.

Teheheman

01-13-2009, 06:15 PM

Somebody quick, write something that explains Skeeters absense. I'll be over here monitoring the situation.

Daniel

Redsonga

01-13-2009, 07:59 PM

Somebody quick, write something that explains Skeeters absense. I'll be over here monitoring the situation.

Daniel
Maybe I will someday :).

AAO

01-13-2009, 08:23 PM

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Skeeter

should answer Skeeter question... read article within page

Redsonga

01-13-2009, 10:06 PM

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Baby_Skeeter

should answer Skeeter question... read article within page

*lol* I think all of us have actually, but there is still a lot to talk about IMHO :)

Grundgetta2800

01-17-2009, 05:18 PM

:flirt:Wow you all have really got me beat... I didn't like Muppet Babies as much as I like the Muppet show. And what was the deal with Nanny? All you saw was that woman's legs.

Redsonga

01-17-2009, 08:54 PM

:flirt:Wow you all have really got me beat... I didn't like Muppet Babies as much as I like the Muppet show. And what was the deal with Nanny? All you saw was that woman's legs.

I hardly ever saw the Muppet Show when I was little so Muppet Babies means more to me:flirt:. I think the point of Nanny was the same as why they never showed adults in Peanuts, it is the babies world and showing her face might have taken too much of the spotlight off of them:). Her face really wasn't important to the series and so she was never given one at all...

unclematt

01-18-2009, 02:42 AM

I also think it was much easier to animate Nanny with out a face.

Grundgetta2800

01-18-2009, 08:17 AM

LOL, yeah I understand... As a child it used to drive me crazy though. The muppet show ended before I was old enough to watch it, but they had reruns on this UHF channel in Baltimore. I used to get up early and watch it whenever I could.

The Count

01-18-2009, 08:27 AM

You know... I wonder if the same baby-perspective POV explaining why Nanny's head was never seen also applied and held true for Doc in the FR animated series. Oh well...

Grundgetta2800

01-18-2009, 08:46 AM

:coy:Which one was DOC?

The Count

01-18-2009, 09:12 AM

In FR, Doc is the human or silly creature as Fraggles call us. In the animated series he was seen only from the neck down, just like Nanny. Hope this helps.

Redsonga

01-18-2009, 11:07 AM

You know... I wonder if the same baby-perspective POV explaining why Nanny's head was never seen also applied and held true for Doc in the FR animated series. Oh well...

I think so..to them humans weren't really important yet I guess...

unclematt

01-18-2009, 01:07 PM

I betchya the Nanny and Doc thinkg had alot to do with each other.

RedPiggy

01-18-2009, 01:55 PM

Somebody quick, write something that explains Skeeters absense. I'll be over here monitoring the situation.
In my fic-verse, she and Scooter got into it because she wanted to be an athlete, not an actress ... and she resented being compared to Piggy all the time. She only comes back when Kermit offers ESPN exposure, because he knows she's upset the Olympic committee won't admit her due to her muppet size.

I think so..to them humans weren't really important yet I guess...
You also don't have messy image rights problems to deal with.

Redsonga

01-30-2009, 10:35 PM

For some reason never seeing Nanny's face never troubled me I think become I thought the babies could not look up higher than that *lol* :)

But I really think Skeeter has a lot more going for her as a character than most new female muppets they could make. She is very much a part of the muppet family by now IMHO :)

RedPiggy

01-31-2009, 09:18 AM

Yay for Skeeter! *waves flag* Let's start chanting...

WE WANT SKEETER!
WE WANT SKEETER!
;)

The Count

01-31-2009, 09:30 AM

You know... I thought that the role of Beaker's Girlfriend from LTS was far too brief to have been hyped with a celebrity cameo like Petra Nemcova's. For that little amount of screen time I've opined that they just as easily could've made a new Whatnot, cross-promoting the Whatnot Workshop in FAO Shwartz Toy Store. Although... If they'd've gone that route, this might've been a good spot to finally see a grownup Skeeter. Just because she's Beaker's girlfriend doesn't mean that she too also only has to speak in "meeps", rather that she understands what he says clearly as we do with our own languages. Oh well... :shifty:

RedPiggy

01-31-2009, 09:39 AM

That would be an intriguing way to get her. Backstory? Screw that! Let's just have Beaker wish her there! Works for me! :)

Redsonga

01-31-2009, 12:25 PM

OMG the Beaker's girlfriend idea is the cutest thing ever :D!

Teheheman

02-02-2009, 06:33 PM

Yeah, but personally, I would MUCH rather have the hot human than Skeeter. Not saying that Skeeter wouldn't have been hot, I'm just saying that if I were Beaker, I would have wished for the human too.

Daniel

RedPiggy

02-02-2009, 07:00 PM

Oh, yeah ... no offense to Skeeter ... of course ;)

But it still would have been an intriguing way of bringing her back and would have shocked Bunsen ten times more! :D

bazooka_beak

02-18-2009, 11:40 AM

:flirt:Wow you all have really got me beat... I didn't like Muppet Babies as much as I like the Muppet show. And what was the deal with Nanny? All you saw was that woman's legs.

Here's how I saw it... they only ever showed the legs of EVERY adult that ever appeared on the show (save for Statler and Waldorf?)... so we have to believe it was seen through a kid's eyes (only seeing up so high, keeping things low to the ground). The faces of the adults weren't important.

muppet baby

02-19-2009, 02:34 PM

Here's how I saw it... they only ever showed the legs of EVERY adult that ever appeared on the show (save for Statler and Waldorf?)... so we have to believe it was seen through a kid's eyes (only seeing up so high, keeping things low to the ground). The faces of the adults weren't important.

oh my gosh i love the how you put this because it was the way that i saw it . Yes i think that they wanted to show the reason why we only saw the adults legs was because of though a kids eyes that is really in a way all that we could really see when we where there age LOL being that short and all .

I really want to see the episodes with sadler and wordoff , i can not remember much of the episode with them , but what i remember was really wonderful .