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Phillip Chapman
07-20-2004, 03:49 PM
The first Fraggle Rock DVD has been released in the USA. Read a review of this three-episode disc, then pick up a copy exclusively at your local Wal-Mart or on-line soon at www.hitstoreusa.com (http://www.hitstoreusa.com/).

http://www.muppetcentral.com/articles/reviews/merchandise/fraggle_dvd.shtml (http://www.muppetcentral.com/articles/reviews/merchandise/fraggle_dvd.shtml)

Apparently some Wal-Mart stores have this title in stock as of today (7/20) while others will not be getting it in stock until next Tuesday (7/27). So if your Wal-Mart doesn't have it yet, they should most definitely be stocking the title as of next week.

Let us know what you think about this long-anticipated DVD release.

bobhopesite
07-20-2004, 04:07 PM
My grandson got me one for my birthday. :p :D

Oliver
07-20-2004, 04:12 PM
Can anyone confirm if this Wal-Mart distribution deal will be limited to the United States? I ask because of all exclusive stock orders that Wal-Mart has promoted in the past, I've yet to see one turn up on this side of the continent... I'm just wondering if there's even a slight chance my local WM in Montreal would carry this title?

beaker
07-20-2004, 04:16 PM
Three episodes? Less than $10??? Super sweet!

Maybe Disney buying out the Muppets inadvertently had a positive effect on the Fraggle Rock franchise.

For under $10, no reason not to get these!

Lone Wolf
07-20-2004, 04:30 PM
This is great news indeed. I'm definitely buying a copy and I would strongly encourage all Muppet fans to do the same. Buy buying this DVD, not only are we adding to our collection of classic Muppet material, but we're sending a message to the Henson company, thus increasing the likliehood that they will release more of their work in the future.

Philo and Gunge
07-20-2004, 04:36 PM
I will definatly buy this DVD. I hope we can get a "Fraggle Rock: Philo & Gunge" DVD with:
Home Is Where The Trash Is
Gunge The Great & Glorious
Sprocket's Big Adventure (bonus episode)
Rude Dude (bonus Mopatop's Shop episode)

Rowlf's Roadie
07-20-2004, 05:10 PM
This is really important. Enough of us declared our want for a DVD and we got it. Enough of us wanted Farscape back and we got it. Only question now is if there are enough of us to affect how Disney handles the Muppets.

Brian Damage
07-20-2004, 05:36 PM
I'm in Australia. Anyone reckon I've got a chance? This is US-only, isn't it?

Should I try good ol' eBay?

muppet_dk
07-20-2004, 06:48 PM
I'm in Australia. Anyone reckon I've got a chance? This is US-only, isn't it?

Should I try good ol' eBay? Unfortunely yes it looks like it's US only, just like the Timelife DVD's. But unlike the timelife dvds it looks like us non americans can get our fingers on the DVD. The Hit website http://www.hitstoreusa.com/ ships outside the US so when/if the dvd comes on their site then all you need to do is to order it. And add an extra $7.95 for the shipping

jeremyactor
07-20-2004, 08:20 PM
I got my copy last night at Wal-Mart... looks good, however I don't like the way they merged episodes 1 and 2 together... they made it 1 big episode.

I also seem to have found a small problem - on the bonus episode, the mouth movement of EVERYONE is way off... I think the audio and video aren't lined up correctly - anyone else see this problem? It could be my player, but the other episodes were fine...

Jeremy

blackurth
07-20-2004, 08:53 PM
my walmart didn't get it in yet :(

Boober_Gorg
07-20-2004, 11:20 PM
I got my copy last night at Wal-Mart... looks good, however I don't like the way they merged episodes 1 and 2 together... they made it 1 big episode.I could see that coming. :boo: :rolleyes:

I also seem to have found a small problem - on the bonus episode, the mouth movement of EVERYONE is way off... I think the audio and video aren't lined up correctly - anyone else see this problem? It could be my player, but the other episodes were fine...Is this problem very evident during the songs in that episode?

There's a similar problem on the Disney Treasures DVD set "Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol. 2" - the sound on "Runaway Brain" is WAY off-sync. I don't have that set, but that's what I've heard, from reliable sources.

GelflingWaldo
07-20-2004, 11:33 PM
I have three questions about the DVD. I haven't been able to get one yet, their are no Wal-Marts real close by me.

:smirk: Are their menus, if so what do they look like? (post screen grabs maybe)
:zany: Is the Pingu episode (or the show for that matter) any good?
:excited: Are their subtitles/closed-captioning?

Oliver
07-21-2004, 06:42 AM
Episodes 1 & 2 are merged???

Can I get confirmation on that from anyone else cause if so that's ridiculous!

Hit! would have to be seriously clueless to do a thing like that, are they still unaware of their consumer fanbase, cause I don't know many folks who have taken well to supporting studios who edit a show's release context in such a way... certainly not enthusiasts of the DVD medium, nor fans and preservationists of the series - it seems so far that Hit! appears to be quite negligiant in such regards.

This started out as "test" (so say random messgaeboard posters as such has never officialy been stated) with 2 episodes, it's since turned into 3 episodes and a Pingu short, and now it seems to be 2 episodes edited into one another with audio timing glitches in the 3rd...

I know I definitely will NOT be buying if this is the sort of treatment that Fraggle Rock will continue to recieve. I'll go with the R2 sets from Columbia instead...

Someone please verify this, because I'd like to contact Hit about this!

SillyRed
07-21-2004, 06:51 AM
I hope my Wal-Mart carries it on the 27th of July.

Drtooth
07-21-2004, 11:13 AM
Ahhh... so it IS only at Sprawl*mart.... No wonder why Target and Best buy.... and Suncoast... and Boarders... and everywhere else I checked had none.... The closest Wal*store is all the way on the Highway.

Shame Best buy didn't pick up the option. I mean, who wants a magical, memorable 80's television show, adored by millions when you can sell 30 copies of unwanted "Cat in the Hat" DVDs, a movie with unanimous bad reviews from critics....

Missy
07-21-2004, 11:27 AM
My husband (yup, got married while I've been away from the board) picked up the DVD for me yesterday morning and I noticed the audio problem too - especially before Gobo reads his postcard to Red - the voice isn't even the same! It's much softer and a higher pitch for a few lines of dialogue. Even so, I can't complain...the Fraggles are on DVD!! :-)

gfarkwort
07-21-2004, 11:53 AM
stupid wal-mart *shakes fist* the one by me didn't have ANY AND didn't know what I was talking about.........wal-mart.com doesn't have it on their site either :cry: ......*stupid stupid dumba** wal-mart*

Drtooth
07-21-2004, 01:09 PM
Considering they're still trying to milk more money out of "Barney the Dinosaur" looooong after the novelty wore off, I don't think that's a terrible mistake.

wembleyfraggle
07-21-2004, 01:23 PM
I asked my WalMart and they didn't know eather, than the lady said, "Ill check the list if you think it really is comming out." She checked and showed me, sure enough it said "Jim Henson's Fraggle Rock DVD/VHS July 27". So I would expect them next Tuesday!

Ty

GelflingWaldo
07-21-2004, 02:18 PM
I e-mailed HIT last night, using the "contact us" link on their website. I asked them several questions about the Fraggles. When will more DVDs be released and what will they be (seasons, single episodes, what)? When will this DVD be added to their online store? I also expressed my fan-ship of the fraggles and stated I would prefer season sets, DVD extras, and DVDs geared towards hard-core Adult fans aswell as kids. About 13-hours later I got a response back. It brought some interesting news. Here is a copy of the E-mail I got. Enjoy!

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Thank you for contacting us. HIT Entertainment is pleased to announce the release of Fraggle Rock Where It All Began on VHS/DVD. You may purchase title at Wal-Mart or call our company direct toll free at 1-877-259-7425 to order. Our web team is currently working on adding this release to our webstore.

Also, look for the Special Edition Where It All Began DVD in specialty stores this October. The special edition DVD will feature more bonuses and special features. Then look for next Fraggle Rock VHS/DVD release next Spring.

We will also pass your interest in seeing box or season sets to our Brand Team for future consideration.

Thank you for your interest in HIT Entertainment.
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I am now torn on getting the DVD now, or waiting until October for the Special Edition. Plus I can't wait until the spring when we'll get some more DVDs. I suggest E-mailing HIT if you have questions or comments. They seem to listen, and care about the input from fans. I hope to see great things from HIT with the Fraggles brand. :excited:

Traveling Matt
07-21-2004, 02:39 PM
Well, I picked up the Fraggle DVD a couple of days ago and yes, Oliver, the first two episodes are merged. It seems quite apparent that HIT didn’t put too much effort into this release.

Oddly enough, I didn’t receive an insert declaring that there would be future releases in the fall. I called HIT’s 877 number to talk with someone and got several questions answered. Please keep in mind I was very polite and courteous to the person over the phone (who was not responsible for making the decisions). This is what got me the results I desired.

1. There are no current plans to release Fraggle Rock in boxed season sets.

2. HIT has seen Warrick’s online petition that has those tens of thousands of signatures. The woman I talked with looked at the site herself just yesterday. Again she makes no decisions, but at least its been seen.

3. The decisions to release Fraggle Rock is not placed entirely on the shoulders of HIT. Both HIT and Henson are in charge, and one can’t release without the permission of the other. It’s a partnership.

4. HIT does have plans to release future volumes. The catch, however, is that the DVD released this fall will be the SAME one on shelves now. What makes the new edition different is that it will be furbished with some “extras”.

I politely told the woman over the phone that this made absolutely no sense. I put in my request with her to please release the series in boxed sets. I mentioned that Fraggle Rock only has five seasons, so they could easily be put together and released over a period of just two, perhaps three years. I also put in a request with her for “Down at Fraggle Rock: Behind the Scenes” to be one of the “extras” for the fall release.

What I am going to do, and what I suggest everyone who wants boxed sets of the series released by season to do as well, is to write a short, polite formal letter to HIT. Not obnoxious phone calls, not crabby e-mails.

Things to mention:

- season sets
- Online petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/Fraggle/
- Many of the creative talent who were involved in the show have signed it, making them part of over 27,000 people who
want DVDs.
- These are only the folks who happen to look up "Fraggle Rock" online. Tens of thousands more would buy it if they
came across it in a store.

Form letters will be opened by the people in consumer relations, who can forward it on to the folks who make the decisions (of course, as long as it is an appropriately-worded letter that is polite, but firm). Online petitions and e-mails are fine, but they are still held at arms length. Having physical evidence of the demand in their hands will speak the loudest. That they cannot deny. This is the only way we, the fans, can make this happen.

The address to mail your form letters is:

HIT Entertainment
Attn: Consumer Relations (Fraggle Rock)
P.O. Box 9000
Allen, Texas 75013

**Putting “Fraggle Rock” in the address will help Consumer Relations better handle the mail and file it correctly. It will also keep the brand name in their minds. That alone can speak volumes.

Phone calls are also monitored, so the more the better. If you would like to politely call them, their number is 1-877-259-7425. Having the subject of Fraggle Rock mentioned over the phone will speak volumes as well (no pun intended).

Mailing your same form letter to Henson is also a good idea. The California-based address on this site is probably the best place to mail. Again, I would put “Consumer Relations” and “Fraggle Rock” in the attention line.

Good luck!

WiGgY
07-21-2004, 05:56 PM
HIT is doing this all wrong and i don't know why. They released the DVD to one store and one store only, so I have no idea how that tests the market. Then they are releasong the same DVD with special features in October, so how does releasing the same DVD test the market? Are they testing to see how many people will buy the same thing twice? Then they don't release another DVD until Spring. What are they doing? Couldn't the Henson Company have found a better distributor?

dlphntat
07-21-2004, 06:32 PM
Hmm, I really want to get the Fraggle Rock DVD, but do I want it enough to move beyond my distrust and hatred of Wal-mart?
hmm. Maybe I can convince my wife to get it for me.

doctort13
07-21-2004, 06:51 PM
Why don't I want to save some $?

Because, Wal-Mart is an BAD company.

How bad you ask?

Well they claim to be "family friendly" yet will not allow mothers to breastfeed their children inside their stores. Don't believe me?

Read this! (http://pacer.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=04a0203p.06)

And if you choose not to read the link:

PERTINENT FACTS

On April 7, 1997, Plaintiff Dana Derungs was shopping at the Wal-Mart store located in Lebanon, Ohio. She attempted to nurse her son, Devin Derungs, on a bench next to a dressing room. She was prohibited from doing so by a Wal-Mart employee and told that she had the option of breast-feeding her son either in the restroom or outside the store. In response, Ms. Derungs left the store with her son.

Plaintiff Jennifer Gore had a similar experience in another Wal-Mart store. On November 8, 1997, Ms. Gore was waiting in a lay-a-way line at a Wal-Mart store in Trotwood, Ohio with her son, Austin Gore. She started to breast-feed Austin but was interrupted by a Wal-Mart employee who told her she was not permitted to breast-feed her son in the store. The employee informed Ms. Gore that she could breast-feed her son in the restroom, or she could leave the store. She voluntarily left the store with her son.

Plaintiff Angie Baird also attempted to breast-feed her child in the Trotwood, Ohio Wal-Mart store. On February 18, 1999, Ms. Baird attempted to breast-feed her daughter, Kassidee Baird, on a bench near the portrait studio in the Trotwood Wal-Mart store. Like her co-plaintiffs, Ms. Baird was interrupted by a store employee and informed that she could either breast-feed in the restroom or had to leave the store. She, too, elected to leave the store with her child.

On March 31, 1999, Dana Derungs, Devin Derungs, Jennifer Gore and Austin Gore filed a complaint in Ohio state court alleging that in refusing to permit Ms. Derungs and Ms. Gore to breast-feed their children, Wal-Mart discriminated against them on the basis of sex and age under Ohio Revised Code § 4112.02(G). Plaintiffs also alleged three common-law claims in their complaint: tortious infliction of emotional distress, tortious interference with parental rights, and loss of consortium. On April 19, 1999, the complaint was amended to add Angie Baird and her infant daughter, Kassidee Baird, as party-plaintiffs. Wal-Mart timely removed the action to the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio on May 3, 1999 on diversity of citizenship grounds.

On September 26, 2000, the district court granted Wal-Mart’s Motion for Partial Summary Judgment and dismissed Plaintiffs’ statutory claims. See Derungs v. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., 141 F. Supp. 2d 884 (S.D. Ohio 2000). Then, on March 15, 2001, Wal-Mart’s Motion for Summary Judgment on the remaining common-law claims was granted, and a Final Judgment was entered on April 11, 2001. Plaintiffs timely filed a Notice of Appeal.(1)

I am not a woman, but I will be a father in 13-14 weeks. I will not spend a penny at a business who will not allow a mother to feed their baby. Why does Wal-Mart find breastfeeding so appalling?

My mother breastfed all of her 5 children, my wife was breastfed, both of my sisters breastfed/feed their children, and all of our children will be breastfed.

Heck, I bet that all of the Henson children were breastfed too!

I'll find somewhere else to buy this DVD. I hope that this has opened a few eyes to the REAL greed that is killing our country.

www.walmartwatch.com

WiGgY
07-21-2004, 07:12 PM
Maybe they don't want women taking their boobs out in the store rows. What is wrong with going into the rest room and breast feeding? You can't walk a few feet into a private space? I see nothing wrong with not allowing someone to breast feed right in the open of the store. It's not anti-family. Anti-family would be not allowing children in the store. Is it hard being a mom? Yes. But that does not give mothers permission to do anything they want. They did NOT keep the woman from feeding her child. They asked her to do it in another area of the store or go outside. I'm sure the child can wait a few freaking seconds so that we don't all need to see this a babdy hanging off of a woman's breast. I'm sure YOU don't mind seeing it, but some people feel uncomfortable.

gfarkwort
07-21-2004, 07:23 PM
Yea other mothers don't want their children to see womens' breasts. Wal-mart is looking out for a majority who may not like seeing it. I am NOT a supporter of Wal-Mart. There public restrooms are NASTY. It seems I'll have to wait untill the 27th.

Why does Wal-Mart only put out new dvd's on Tuesday?

Phillip Chapman
07-21-2004, 07:35 PM
All new DVD's in any store generally hit the street in the US on Tuesdays. Just like "most" movies debut on Fridays before the weekend.

dlphntat
07-21-2004, 08:30 PM
if I may quote Chandler from 'Friends':
"Can... open. worms...everywhere"
:)
(and for the record, my problem with Wal-mart is a bit different than that. )
so, in the opinion of those who have purchased it, does this DVD merit the trip to Sprawl-Mart, or is it better to wait until October?

ravagefrackle
07-21-2004, 08:56 PM
Why is it always Wal-Mart? We don't have any in my area. Stupid Exclusive deals, excluded way to many people! :grouchy:

GelflingWaldo
07-21-2004, 11:06 PM
Regardless of how you feel about Wal-mart, it does not look like HIT will move this specific release out to other places (it is just to test a sample of the market). If you are anti-Wal-mart you should be able to order the DVD from there online store soon. Plus the "special edition", which will be out in October, should have a much wider release.

In the wake of this product's release, I started to wonder about the future of the Fraggle-DVD franchise. I wrote a letter to HIT and Henson, I mailed it and E-mailed it. I hope they read and consider what I say. I also hope other fans write letters too. Let's have our voice be heard - We can make a difference! Below is a copy of the letter I wrote. I thought you might enjoy reading what I had to say to the "power that be".


Dear HIT Entertainment,

The television show Fraggle Rock has truly enhanced my life, and I would adore seeing a complete collection of all 96 Fraggle Rock episodes on the DVD format. I'm sure all the parties involved would want the show properly released to the public, and recognize the great marketplace for it.

In the past I've been frustrated by hundreds of other studios’ treatment of television shows when releasing them on DVD. Yet I feel you have the ability to create a great product with the Fraggle Rock DVD collection. The existing fan-base of Fraggle Rock is diverse. From kids to adults, the show reaches all ages. I hope to see DVDs that cater to all fans, and not just children.

Season box sets are the preferred choice of Fraggle Rock, and TV-DVD fans. Releasing the show in their proper five season sets would be the best treatment one could give to such a beloved classic, such as Fraggle Rock. Smaller single disk releases, with one or two episodes each, are great for casual fans, and for getting new viewers hooked. I am not discouraging them. But the large fan-base of Fraggle fans would much rather have all 96 episodes in a season-by-season collection full of extras. The fan base has been waiting for years for a decent release of the show.

What makes any DVD release even better is when the DVD experience is enhanced with special features and extra goodies. Jim Henson created an excellent behind the scenes special called Down at Fraggle Rock: Behind the Scenes. This one-hour special shows interviews with performers, writers, composers, and technicians and it provides a wonderful backstage look at Fraggle Rock. I know that every fan of the show would love to see this special again on a DVD collection. International comparison clips, showing the difference between the different versions of Fraggle Rock shown all over the world, is another fan desired extra. And another DVD extra that would set these DVDs apart from others would be selected “bonus episodes" from the 1987 animated Fraggle Rock cartoon show on each DVD. And, of course no DVD set would be complete with out interviews, image galleries, promos, and commentary tracks. I hope to see Fraggle Rock DVDs handled with great care to enhance the viewers’ experiance of Fraggle Rock.

Fraggle Rock has touched the lives of so many people; millions of people grew-up with the Fraggles, and a dishonorable treatment of Fraggle Rock will only ruin their memories of a show which lately has been hard to come by. It’s been over 20 years since Fraggle Rock first aired on television, and today fans are still excited by any news of “Fraggle happenings”. I hope that HIT Entertainment and The Jim Henson Company can work together to create a great DVD collection for the fans of Fraggle Rock. Thank you for your time and consideration. Please keep the magic alive, and bring the world the best Fraggle DVDs possible.

Sincerely,

baby sinclair
07-22-2004, 10:21 AM
Well, all i know is that on tuesday (hopefully my walmart has this dvd today) i will purchase where it all began the first edition. i'm not buying the same dvd with just with a few extras. i think thats just silly. Why cant they just release the next episodes. id rather have a NEW fraggle dvd this fall than just another version. This is so messed up. Not at all how i wanted it. Not at all.

BigTiny
07-22-2004, 01:19 PM
Apparently some Wal-Mart stores have this title in stock as of today (7/20) while others will not be getting it in stock until next Tuesday (7/27). So if your Wal-Mart doesn't have it yet, they should most definitely be stocking the title as of next week.
It seems that Alabama stores do in fact have it! I figured the west-coast would be the first to see it. :) I'm a little suprised that only some stores will get it before others...

vetters
07-22-2004, 02:18 PM
In the wake of this product's release, I started to wonder about the future of the Fraggle-DVD franchise. I wrote a letter to HIT and Henson, I mailed it and E-mailed it. I hope they read and consider what I say. I also hope other fans write letters too. Let's have our voice be heard - We can make a difference! Below is a copy of the letter I wrote. I thought you might enjoy reading what I had to say to the "power that be".

GelflingWaldo, that was a great letter. Thanks for posting it. And thanks to Traveling Matt for suggesting what to write and where to send it! Hopefully we'll get our season-by-season DVD release. I know that I will write a letter.

doctort13
07-22-2004, 02:55 PM
Maybe they don't want women taking their boobs out in the store rows. What is wrong with going into the rest room and breast feeding?

I must call you on this buddy!

First off, the part of a woman's body that a baby nurses from is a BREAST. Not a boob. Most mothers are very discreet about feeding their children, and do not "take their boobs out in the store rows".

Secondly, would you eat in ANY restroom? I doubt it very much. I used to work for a company that serviced Wal-Mart stores, and used their restrooms...which were ALWAYS filthy! I could never suggest that a mother should have to feed their baby in a WAL-MART restroom, let alone have to use it for the purpose that it is intended for.

I hope that if you ever become a parent you will see things differently. I would hate to know that your children were hungry while you and your family were shopping, and that the store would eject you (or your wife) for breast feeding your baby.

GelflingWaldo
07-22-2004, 03:13 PM
I was out shopping today at many stores and asked the employes/managers of the stores I was in what their responce to A WOMAN breast feeding in their store would be. The following stores said they would ask the mother to leave or go to a private areas (restroom/changing room).

K-mart
Macy's
CVS
SunCoast Video
Waldenbooks
Old Navy
BlockBuster
Burger King

These are just places I went to and asked, many other places probally have the same rules. Of all the places I went, none said they would be "Ok" with it. Places have policies on this issue, I think Wal-Mart is one of the few where the mothers complained and they had law suites. Many places don't allow shoppers to eat or drink in their stores and no one complains about their right to eat in the store. Regardless, it does not look like this Fraggle DVD will be moved out of Wal-mart.

SillyRed
07-22-2004, 08:37 PM
:excited: Just saw that The Wal-Mart Nearest me has the Fraggle Rock DVD!! I can't wait to buy it tomorrow!!!

jeremyactor
07-22-2004, 08:46 PM
Episodes 1 & 2 are merged???

Can I get confirmation on that from anyone else cause if so that's ridiculous!

Hit! would have to be seriously clueless to do a thing like that, are they still unaware of their consumer fanbase, cause I don't know many folks who have taken well to supporting studios who edit a show's release context in such a way... certainly not enthusiasts of the DVD medium, nor fans and preservationists of the series - it seems so far that Hit! appears to be quite negligiant in such regards.

This started out as "test" (so say random messgaeboard posters as such has never officialy been stated) with 2 episodes, it's since turned into 3 episodes and a Pingu short, and now it seems to be 2 episodes edited into one another with audio timing glitches in the 3rd...

I know I definitely will NOT be buying if this is the sort of treatment that Fraggle Rock will continue to recieve. I'll go with the R2 sets from Columbia instead...

Someone please verify this, because I'd like to contact Hit about this!

When I say they were merged, I mean they took the end credits off of one, the beginning intro off another and put a graphic in the middle to separate them. Obnoxious? Yes. End of the world? Nope. But I will be voicing my displeasure with HIT.

As for the audio problems - I have to do some looking, but it could just be my player. I'll try it in my computer and see what happens.

Jeremy

WiGgY
07-22-2004, 09:21 PM
I must call you on this buddy!

First off, the part of a woman's body that a baby nurses from is a BREAST. Not a boob. Most mothers are very discreet about feeding their children, and do not "take their boobs out in the store rows".

Secondly, would you eat in ANY restroom? I doubt it very much. I used to work for a company that serviced Wal-Mart stores, and used their restrooms...which were ALWAYS filthy! I could never suggest that a mother should have to feed their baby in a WAL-MART restroom, let alone have to use it for the purpose that it is intended for.

I hope that if you ever become a parent you will see things differently. I would hate to know that your children were hungry while you and your family were shopping, and that the store would eject you (or your wife) for breast feeding your baby.

Boob, breat, melon, bazonga, same diff "buddy". Don't get caught up in details. I'll use what ever word I want to.

Is the baby licking the floor of the restroom? Is the mother quirting milk on the tile and having the baby lick it up like a cat? No? So what is that problem? It's not like walking into the restroom with a hamburger and seting it down on the counter or the rim of a toilet seat. And there is that second option of going outside. What is so wrong with that? Just walk right outside. The kid can't wait for a minute? Please.

If I ever become a parent and my wife breast feeds I will still be on the same side. First of all, why bring the kid to the store? You can't leave the child with a baby sitter while you take an hour to shop? Do you really think other people want to hear your child screaming? I know i don't. Does that make me anti-family? No. It makes me anti-hearing other people's screaming babies. If the child can not be away from you for an hour or 2 so you can shop, then you should not go shopping. Send someone out, leave the baby, order online. There is no reason to burden others with your screaming baby.

Anyway, there is no reason not to breast feed in a private place away from other people other than selfishness. It's doesn't bother you, so why should you care if it bothers someone else?

Phillip Chapman
07-22-2004, 10:23 PM
Guys, let's move on from the breast-feeding discussion. The focus here is on the Fraggle DVD. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

WiGgY
07-22-2004, 11:39 PM
Well I want to know how this is an effective test of the market. One store selling a stripped down DVD. Then they tell us that soon there will be the same DVD offered, only with more stuff. So, if sales are poor on the first DVD, and good on the next, does that mean all DVDs will have extra cool stuff? What if everyone buying now decides they aren't stupid enough to buy the same DVD twice and sales are poor on the second DVD. Will all future DVDs be stripped down? I just don't get it.

froggiegirl18
07-23-2004, 09:05 AM
About going to the nearest wal-mart and buying the dvd's..the one close to my home the guy had no idea what I was talking about..so I was disappointed for a few hours..Then I went to my aunt's who lives about thirty minutes away to help with putting together a computer desk..since she did not have a phone cord that was needed to have the desk where she wanted it, we took a trip to wal-mart and there they were my mom bought two..one for me and one for her...I was skipping the rest of the night!!I went home and watched the first two...which I had never seen the first or the second. I'm not sure if the third one has problems because I have not been able to watch it yet I will before I go to work or after. I'm soooooo happy to see the beloved fraggles again because I have been watching the same 5 episodes over and over because those were the only ones my mom recorded since I was born two years after it came out. Anyways for those who haven't bought them yet invest the ten dollars..I think it's worth it..in fact if the next one is just as cheap..I'll buy the next one if it means that the entire series will be produced. Call me foolish but at least I will see more extra stuff.. :)

BigTiny
07-23-2004, 09:44 AM
Well I want to know how this is an effective test of the market. One store selling a stripped down DVD. Then they tell us that soon there will be the same DVD offered, only with more stuff.

Seemed to be a good test to me. I found my copy yesterday and LOVED it. Ok, so they merge two episodes. My kids never noticed. I mean, HiT is a childrens distributor, right?

I never saw the first episode as I did not have HBO as a kid/teen. I was able to see an episode from time to time at a friends house and really loved it. Getting access to this DVD has turned out to be a lot of fun for my family! And the flier 'More Fraggle Rock Coming To Video/DVD Fall 2004' inside the DVD case is exciting as well.

Sure bonus features would have been nice. And just having access to the first episodes will hold my family for a while. I believe that with the proper feedback, future editions of Fraggle Rock on DVD will be wonderful.

Now back to 'Outer Space'...

Wembley
07-23-2004, 09:59 AM
All new DVD's in any store generally hit the street in the US on Tuesdays. Just like "most" movies debut on Fridays before the weekend.

What about Fridays that aren't before the weekend?

-Rick "Wembley" Miller
..."You can NOT leave the magic!"

froggiegirl18
07-23-2004, 10:52 AM
yep the episode about the water is fine...the lip synch matches up...hip hip hooray for HIT..true not the best dvd out there, would be nice to see behind the scene stuff but at least we can see Fraggle Rock again!

Drtooth
07-23-2004, 12:33 PM
personally, my qualms about WalMart are basically their gender biased employee payment and their elimination of Mom and pop stores, but I guess that's just me.

So... do they even say what the "extras" are, or did they even hint at it?

It may sway my decision to purchase this DVD... especially if they can fix the sound gaffe and the Merging of the first 2 episodes... but somehow I feel the extras will be corny.....

But then agian, Hit pretty much deals mainly with a lame Dinosaur show that has become old hat by now... he's about 8 years behind the height of his popularity....his peak has been reached. So basically, that's why I think the DVD's will be like this.

But It's great to see it in some form on DVD... specially since us kids with parents too poor to buy cable had to make due with the cartoon series....

Foodie
07-23-2004, 06:09 PM
It's like seeing them on HBO for the first time again. I can't wait for more. :smirk: :excited:


Nick

SillyRed
07-23-2004, 09:13 PM
I love the new DVD! My fave is the bonus episode "Let The Water Run"! A must have for DVD player owners!! :excited:

Janice & Mokey's Man
07-23-2004, 11:31 PM
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D

baby sinclair
07-23-2004, 11:48 PM
Are these dvd's selling out? i wanna know when tuesday rolls around should i automatically go to the store and pick this item up?Or is it no big deal and i can take my time?

Foodie
07-24-2004, 06:58 AM
Are these dvd's selling out? i wanna know when tuesday rolls around should i automatically go to the store and pick this item up?Or is it no big deal and i can take my time?

When I bought mine this passed Wednesday, there were like... 15 or 20 copies left. I may have beent he first to buy them. They didn't even have a price sticker on the rack. I wouldn't wait if I were you though, but that's only because I'm a fraggle dork. Need fraggles now!
:smirk:

Nick

baby sinclair
07-24-2004, 10:57 AM
lol thanx for the info.Alot folks are complaining about the next release but we may not get anymore of these if this dvd doe'snt sale good.Where i live i only know one person who use to watch fraggle rock

Sir Didymus
07-24-2004, 11:24 AM
I am currently in Kentucky for a month, and I am just dying to get this DVD! I checked a Wal Mart yesterday, and the lady checked a piece of paper that said "Jim Henson's Fraggle Rock" July 27! I can't wait! After the lady told me when it comes out, a customer behind me said "Oh, I love Fraggle Rock!".

I am counting the days!

Sir Didymus

Sir Didymus
07-24-2004, 11:26 AM
Also, I am going to buy 2 of these, just because I want future releases!!

Didymus

SillyRed
07-24-2004, 08:27 PM
The Closed Captioning has the first line of the theme song wrong. It's "Dance Your Cares Away" Not "Cast Your Cares Away"!

Janice & Mokey's Man
07-24-2004, 08:33 PM
"Rully, it's not 'Fishing Rock'!" :flirt:

Whatever
07-24-2004, 08:46 PM
I don't think I'll get this DVD except on sale, but I'm glad it's out there. I know a lot of people have wanted it for a long time.

Whatever
07-24-2004, 08:47 PM
The Closed Captioning has the first line of the theme song wrong. It's "Dance Your Cares Away" Not "Cast Your Cares Away"!
At least there is closed captioning, most of the Muppet DVDs don't have it. I think that is really great that it does have closed captions. :excited:

The Storyteller
07-24-2004, 11:32 PM
I'm SO lucky! My Birthday is the 27th! :) Can't WAIT! ;)

Janice & Mokey's Man
07-25-2004, 12:58 AM
And hey, Phil, thanks for includin' my editorial link in your piece about the FR DVD, and for what you said about it. That's really nice. :o

:)

Convincing John
07-25-2004, 12:07 PM
My fave is the bonus episode "Let The Water Run"!:excited:

That episode always makes me thirsty:D

By the way, look for a "Junior Blooper" (at least I think it is) in this episode. Junior follows Pa to the castle, and trips on the low garden wall. He says "Daddy the General...ooomph!" Do you think the trip and the "ooomph!" were scripted? I don't.

Also, think of this: the "Royal Bath" needs lots of water. Think of how big the Gorgs are supposed to be compared to humans...like 30 feet tall, right? Okay, the Gorgs pump the water from the well, which comes from the Fraggle Pond, which comes from the pipes, which come from Doc's workshop, right? All that water comes from Doc!

For everyone wishing for extras on Fraggle DVD's, maybe we'll be surprised in the future of a "deleted scene" from this episode. It would show Doc fainting after getting a whopping huge water bill! LOL!:crazy:

Convincing John

Philo and Gunge
07-25-2004, 02:35 PM
I just got it a few minutes ago after a long and painful Wal-Mart drive. The audio from "Let The Water Run" plays fine on my computer. Pingu is only 5 minutes and I hate how they merged the episodes together.

Luke
07-25-2004, 02:41 PM
I politely told the woman over the phone that this made absolutely no sense. I put in my request with her to please release the series in boxed sets. I mentioned that Fraggle Rock only has five seasons, so they could easily be put together and released over a period of just two, perhaps three years. I also put in a request with her for “Down at Fraggle Rock: Behind the Scenes” to be one of the “extras” for the fall release.

It may make "absolutely no sense" to you but it makes a lot of sense for HIT. They are absolutely NOT a company that specialises or even occasionally puts cult TV shows onto DVD for specialist collectors. They are a pre-school company starting to branch out a bit into more family entertainment which is part of the reason why they aquired classic Henson properties at the same time as signing the co-production deal for "Frances". They are making these for families who want to spend a few dollars for a few episodes of an old show the adults remember and to entertain their kids. These are the kind of people browsing Walmart for something cheap and cool - majority of them probably wouldn't spend $30-$40 as easily on season by season sets. Sure, HIT are interested to see what the ratio of casual buyers vs hardcore collectors is to get a feel of how they should balance and edit the releases but in reality it's much more likely that the casual Walmart shoppers massively out number the fans and HIT will want to appeal to as many buyers over a wider consumer base as possible.

I don't have a problem with it. Seeing there is a moderate hardcore fan base will probably mean they leave the stuff on the DVD's in their original format in future and provide a few good extras. While there is the thought to put them out in seasons it'll be the additional support of the $10-$20 a time casual shopper that will mean the sales numbers should be good enough to actually continue the releases for us all. I imagine they'll probably come to a compromise with about 8 episodes per DVD release put out in season order.

KermieBaby47
07-25-2004, 03:53 PM
I have to wait until this coming Tuesday to get mine, but that's fine with me! :D

Not worried about the merged episodes, it's a test DVD. Maybe when it's re-released w/extras, THEN it'll be available everywhere else?

I think Wal*Mart is a great place to test the market, as mostly EVERYWHERE has a Wal*Mart that everyone shops at to get the lowest prices on stuff, 'specially DVD's!

tallnikky
07-25-2004, 06:44 PM
My walmart doesn't have it :smirk:

Barry Lee
07-25-2004, 06:59 PM
I am waiting for the special edition DVD:smirk: :excited:

CoOKiE
07-25-2004, 10:04 PM
I don't think I'll get this DVD except on sale, but I'm glad it's out there. I know a lot of people have wanted it for a long time.

Um, not to be a smarty on this one... but the DVD's are like what $9? Isn't that like a sale in itself? And DVD's start off as on sale when they're first released. After that, they jack the prices up. I know that this isn't like movie theatre material so they may not jack up the prices. Its cheap enough. What more can you ask for? :smirk: :excited:

pollick529
07-25-2004, 11:43 PM
I've tried the Hamilton (Upper James) and Ancaster Wal-Marts and they don't carry 'em. :mad: Is it available in Canada? :confused: I sure would like to get my hands on a copy! :excited:

a_Mickey_Muppet
07-26-2004, 09:54 PM
Hey guys,
just thought id post about the Fraggle Rock DVD hitting Wal Mart stores OFFICALY tommarow (i work at a walmart) and just before I left I asked one of the girls IF its really coming out tommarow and she sayed yes, i even seen the yellow price tag ready for tommarow! it sayed $9.78 :D

nothingshocking
07-27-2004, 09:03 AM
has anybody from new england [especially nh] found the dvd? i went to the super walmart in salem yesterday hoping they'd have it. i couldn't find it anywhere, but maybe they'll get it today. although, i was hoping they'd put it out early like they did with the garfield new release [oops, guess they don't check release dates]. i'm going to the derry one today, but i doubt they will carry it because they have a much smaller entertainment section.

for those of you who have bought it: where did you find it? was it in a 4-way fixture, a dvd dump? or was it on the movie wall..

thanks

a_Mickey_Muppet
07-27-2004, 12:59 PM
hey guys,
Just got back from Wal Mart and got my Fraggle Rock DVD. I popped it in and loved it... i also noticed that when the "Jim Henson's Fraggle Rock" logo pops up normaily it would say "staring Jim Hensons Muppets", like how they did when Disney in the early 90s released the vhs series. But it doesnt say it on the DVD, is it because Disney owns the name "Muppet" now? :confused: :smirk:

Run water run..., la la la laaa...

baby sinclair
07-27-2004, 01:14 PM
ya i jut got mine this morning my lil sister's been watching it all day.Nice to share something i used to like with the lil ones. :excited:

wembleyfraggle
07-27-2004, 04:22 PM
I must say it is awsome! I love the menus. I hate Pingu, its not even in English. I put Palisades Fraggle toys on the comment card.
Ty

SillyRed
07-27-2004, 06:08 PM
Penguinese is the Language Pingu and the penguins speak. I don't understand the plots for those Pingu shorts because all the Penguins do is talk funny.

Sir Didymus
07-27-2004, 08:50 PM
I just got it today! I absolutely love it! The menus are excellent, and I love the music they play. The only thing I hate about about the DVD is Pingu. He is so stupid, I don't know why the dumb penquin is on there, but oh well!


Sir Didymus

Brian Damage
07-28-2004, 10:12 AM
Also, think of this: the "Royal Bath" needs lots of water. Think of how big the Gorgs are supposed to be compared to humans...like 30 feet tall, right? Okay, the Gorgs pump the water from the well, which comes from the Fraggle Pond, which comes from the pipes, which come from Doc's workshop, right? All that water comes from Doc!

For everyone wishing for extras on Fraggle DVD's, maybe we'll be surprised in the future of a "deleted scene" from this episode. It would show Doc fainting after getting a whopping huge water bill! LOL!:crazy:

Convincing John

I've been pondering on that, and I reckon a good water flow through Doc's section of the piping creates some water pressure effect that allows water to flow from a large catchment or dam (Either of which could mean that Doc only gets a power or gas bill for heating the water) somewhere into the pipe system in Fraggle Rock.

I've also been wondering: Exactly how often does Pa Gorg bathe? Maybe it's not too frequently, so that might save water, too. And I think the Gorgs were about 22 feet tall.

CoOKiE
07-28-2004, 08:42 PM
Jr stated that hes taking a bath everyday Brian Damgage...

n it seems that not too many people like Pingu too much... yea i kinda agree that it was a lil goofy.. BUT! do remember, this wasn't exactly made for just us older fans, but its promoting for younger views. I mean some of us used to watch things like Gumby lol... but at least he talk'd our language.

And to another person who asked where to find the Fraggle DVD... where i got mine, it was with the other DVDs, in the electronic section (as oppossed to the DVDs that are on shelves out of the Electronic section... some Wal-Marts this may not be the case)... surrpised it wasn't wit new releases tho... they had a Barney DVD wit the new DVDs...

Also.. i have a question... any one seen any signs of Fraggle DVDs selling out? When i bought mine there had to have been like 5 left.. but i dunno how much they originally put out.. AND i got mine the first day it was released at my Wal-Mart... so if n e one has visted their Wal-Mart since, lemme know please... i'm sure alot of us would like to hear that the DVDs are selling out.. meaning we're gett'n closer to the Box sets in the future (lets hope near future)

The Storyteller
07-28-2004, 11:47 PM
http://www.hitstoreusa.com/frrowhitallb.html

Klonoa
07-29-2004, 12:24 AM
From my blog (read it, will ya?) :

Dance your cares away! Working's for another day! Let the Fraggles play! Down at Fraggle Rock! Man I used to LOVE the Fraggle Rock show as a kid. And I found a DVD of it at Wal-Mart today! That was a great kid's show. Boober and Sprocket rock! My favorite line from the DVD: King Gorg: "We'll have a trial!" Junior Gorg: "Oooh! I'll get the trial stuff!" Also got a DVD of the first season of the Garfield and Friends Saturday morning cartoon. Haven't watched it yet.

Just finished watching the rest of the Fraggle Rock DVD. They could've put more episodes on it I think, but oh well. I'm just glad to be able to watch the show again after all these years, and the DVD wasn't that expensive to begin with so I can't complain too much. The nice thing about watching Fraggle Rock after all these years is that when I was little, I loved the show, and now that I'm older I can catch the more deeper meanings that I may have missed as a child. The lessons in Fraggle Rock are never heavy handed, like they are in most of today's kid's shows. Sometimes the lessons aren't even lessons, just concepts that kids may not normally think about, like 'freedom.' The main lessons on this DVD are that you can rely on your friends, but in "Wembley and the Gorgs," I think it's more of a concept or thought than a lesson. It's neat how Fraggle Rock can mix the silly and the profound together in one kid's show. Wembley might be singing a nonsense song in one scene, and in another he's talking to Gobo about what it means to be free, "I guess some creatures value freedom more than others." he says. Wow, you could write a whole college thesis on that topic. I also liked Wembley's plea to the Gorgs for his friends' freedom in that episode. So simple, and yet so meaningful: "...and Red knows lots of good games and Mokey knows good songs. And Boober...well, Boober knows lots of stuff that is special to him. So, they all deserve good stuff. They deserve to be free!" Oh my gosh! I talk like that! Scary! I also remember Sprocket being a cool character, but I didn't remember why I liked him so much until I saw the DVD. He's one versatile Muppet! And the scenery in Fraggle Rock really looks like they put their heart into it, and the puppetry is great for the time. I was amazed at the bridge building scene with the Doozers on the DVD. I bet that took some planning! I love how when they want to make a Fraggle jump they just toss it in the air. Boober's my favorite Fraggle, though.

I shared the Fraggle Rock DVD with one of my little brothers, and I plan to show it to the rest of them this weekend. The one who watched it though it was weird (he thinks all my old shows are weird). It’s just a show about a guy and a dog who have a workshop with a hole that leads to a cave where little cave creatures build construction sites and bigger cave creatures eat the construction sites and sometimes the bigger cave creatures go out into another cave exit and evade giant Gorgs and get advice from a pile of talking garbage! What’s weird about that?

--Klonoa
I wouldn't have known about this DVD if it weren't for Muppet Central. So thanks, Muppet Central!

a_Mickey_Muppet
07-29-2004, 12:16 PM
I shared the Fraggle Rock DVD with one of my little brothers, and I plan to show it to the rest of them this weekend. The one who watched it though it was weird (he thinks all my old shows are weird). It’s just a show about a guy and a dog who have a workshop with a hole that leads to a cave where little cave creatures build construction sites and bigger cave creatures eat the construction sites and sometimes the bigger cave creatures go out into another cave exit and evade giant Gorgs and get advice from a pile of talking garbage! What’s weird about that?

--Klonoa
I wouldn't have known about this DVD if it weren't for Muppet Central. So thanks, Muppet Central!


I bought a copy of the Fraggle Rcok DVD and gave it to my local library yesterday.... i'd fig since they have been soooo nice to me all these years, i spend $10 bucks and gave them a copy for ALL the kids to watch and get to know Fraggle Rock! ;) :D :smirk:

baby sinclair
07-29-2004, 02:37 PM
hmmm, sounds like a good idea i'll buy another one and donate it to my library.

a_Mickey_Muppet
07-29-2004, 02:47 PM
hmmm, sounds like a good idea i'll buy another one and donate it to my library.


Yes, thats very nice :) lets ALL do that shell we? ;) donate Fraggle DVDs to our local librarys! :D

FragglettesMom
07-30-2004, 06:19 PM
I went to the WalMart store that is near my house yesterday, and discovered that it is being remodeled. It is a mess ! I managed to find some of the dvd's and video tapes all smashed together, but I could not find the FRAGGLE ROCK DVD! I did find a new Fraggle Rock VHS from HIT for $5.96. I could not find anyone around to ask about the DVD, so I called my sister and she is going to try the WalMart store where she lives. I did not read here on the forum that there was a VHS being released, so I was surprised to see it yesterday.

GoMoWeBoRe
07-31-2004, 10:45 AM
hitstoreusa ships it to europe within about 6 to 8 weeks (!!).

if you're ordering from europe they'll ask you to confirm your order:

The DVD you ordered is playable in Region 1 (commonly used in the United
States and Canada). We show that Germany uses Region 2; therefore, your
DVD player may not play this DVD. Please check your manual to see if it
will play Region 1.

Please notify us within 5 days if you would like us to process your
order as listed or it will be cancelled. You may e-mail the address
above or call us at 1-877-2LYRICK (1-877-259-7425) or 1-972-390-6000.
Our hours are 8 am to 5 pm Central Time.

Liz

HIT Entertainment Consumer Relations

If you're ordering from Europe you should assure hit that your dvd-player is capable of playing region-1-dvds in the 'comments'-area in hit's order form to avoid delay...

:smirk:

Dr. Bombay
07-31-2004, 11:31 PM
I purchased my copy of the Fraggle DVD yesterday. I will say that before now I probably had only seen about three episodes of Fraggle Rock, though I watched the animated series all the time.

FR is cute and all, and I mainly purchased it in the hopes that it will persuade the powers that be to release season sets for my Muppet friends, but I think I will donate mine to the library as well. I can't see myself watching it again, not like I do the Muppet Show DVDs.

Wembley
08-01-2004, 12:26 AM
I was at the WMSC in Epping, the new one right at 101 & 125 and they had the VHS. When I get back from Las Vegas I'll stop in and see if they have the DVD. I got a friend who works there so he'll probably have one set aside for me..... :)

Oh, they did have the VHS, inline with the other VHS tapes on the main shelves in the AV section, with the wrong price tag in front of it. Technically, HIT has a kiosk in the "action alley" that runs by the electronics section and it probably should have gone there....

-Rick "Wembley" Miller
..."You can NOT leave the magic!"

has anybody from new england [especially nh] found the dvd? i went to the super walmart in salem yesterday hoping they'd have it. i couldn't find it anywhere, but maybe they'll get it today. although, i was hoping they'd put it out early like they did with the garfield new release [oops, guess they don't check release dates]. i'm going to the derry one today, but i doubt they will carry it because they have a much smaller entertainment section.

for those of you who have bought it: where did you find it? was it in a 4-way fixture, a dvd dump? or was it on the movie wall..

thanks

Brian Damage
08-01-2004, 03:40 AM
...

Still eBaying.

CoOKIE: Ah, right. Well, the water must come from a free source somewhere, or someone at the water company'd get suspicious...

CoOKiE
08-01-2004, 09:35 AM
has anybody from new england [especially nh] found the dvd? i went to the super walmart in salem yesterday hoping they'd have it. i couldn't find it anywhere, but maybe they'll get it today. although, i was hoping they'd put it out early like they did with the garfield new release [oops, guess they don't check release dates]. i'm going to the derry one today, but i doubt they will carry it because they have a much smaller entertainment section.

for those of you who have bought it: where did you find it? was it in a 4-way fixture, a dvd dump? or was it on the movie wall..

thanks

I come from Rhode Island and the DVD was surly enough at my local Wal-Mart on Tuesaday the 27th. Did you go before the 27th? I suggest you go back and check.
Also.. once again, have there been any signs of the DVDs/VHSs selling out?

baby sinclair
08-01-2004, 12:58 PM
At the walmart down the street by my house they sold out last thursday after just 2 days.I also tried to tell every one on warrics petition but no one payed me much attention oh well :( *sigh*.

a_Mickey_Muppet
08-01-2004, 05:34 PM
At the walmart down the street by my house they sold out last thursday after just 2 days.I also tried to tell every one on warrics petition but no one payed me much attention oh well *sigh*.

Boy, they did here theres ONLY like 6 left when i checked lastnite! :) good thing i grabed my copy and a copy for the library :D well thats good that there selling tho! :halo:

CoOKiE
08-02-2004, 09:37 PM
Can you imagine how many people don't know about these DVDs that would love to know? Wal-Mart should have a huge sign or something... maybe i'll have to run around the store, scream'n up n down the isles "BUY THE FRAGGLE ROCK DVD IN THE ELECTRONIC SELCTION!"... or maybe not... lol :smirk:

GelflingWaldo
08-02-2004, 10:31 PM
I asked HIT! the best way to give feedback on the DVD, that would make the most impact on future releases. They said fans can write well thought out letters to give their personal thoughts to the HIT! staff. But the best way is to fill out and send in the servey card in the DVD case (it looks like a registration card asking for comments, age, gender, ect.)

This card will help them see what type of people bought this dvd, and would buy more (Families, adult fans, teens, children, casual fans, hard core fans, ect.). Fill it out, send it back. Also tell them if you want season sets, no merged episodes, extras, or anything else in the comments section too. Some DVDs don't have the card for some reason (just like the more DVD coming in fall 2004 card). But if you got one, use it.

baby sinclair
08-02-2004, 10:48 PM
Yeah,sadly hundreds are signing warrics petition each day i hope he reads this and post something on the petion to let those thousands of people know about these dvd's.Cause if we get them all to buy these that would certainly help.But obviously people are finding these in the store for a real low price and are buying them up. ;)

wembleyfraggle
08-03-2004, 01:09 AM
My store started with 14 when I baught mine now there are only 6! Great news!
Ty

Chuck
08-04-2004, 05:21 PM
I looked at my local WalMart last Tuesday 7/27. Their DVD rack had an empty slot marked for Fraggle Rock...but no copies. Their report said they had 11 copies. The lady was nice enough to go in back to check, but no luck.

I went back today 8/4, and got one. I had to ask again, but the same lady had seen the VHS version and felt they should have the DVD. After a trip to the back again, she brought all 11 out.

BTW -- I stopped into Best Buy on Monday to see if perhaps they had the DVD, but no. Not even an entry that it was on order. So it appears Walmart does indeed have an exclusive.

What others had said are true -- the two "regular" episodes are merged, but this only means HIT doesn't end the first with credits and start the second with the full opening. There is a title break between episodes.

Audio on both episodes is great! Clear, crisp with good bass.

The video is not as good. I expected a sharp picture, but not being digitally remastered or anything, the transfer is average at best.

Getting a third episode was a nice bonus. I did not see any audio lag, but mine had a very annoying humm throughout. I'm assuming HIT threw this one on at the last minute and didn't give it the same treatment.

The Pingu episode is for introduction only. I expected nothing and was satisfied.

But overall -- who cares, eh! I get to dance my cares away with friends of old.

I will definitely send in my survey card and request more!

Mark Filton
08-07-2004, 03:19 AM
Ah, some good old stuff. Reveling in nostalgia we are :D

POCC
08-07-2004, 10:29 PM
I live in the Mountains outside of Colorado Springs. My local Wal-Mart is in the Springs and as this date they still don't have the Fraggle Rock DVD or Video. Thet say it is on backorder but I wonder if some Wal Marts are not included in the test market and will never receive it. I may have to ask someone who can get it to send me one

baby sinclair
08-08-2004, 03:22 PM
From what i hear the dvd is pretty much sold out everywhere so you'll just have to wait till october.

gbrobeck
08-09-2004, 12:59 AM
My Wal-Mart never carried it in the first place. :(



Greg

AndyL
08-10-2004, 04:54 AM
Consider this : Does buying this out-of-order two-episode disk show HIT that a boxed set would be profitable? Or does it show HIT that more out-of-order two-episode disks would be profitable?

(Making both at the same time would be even less profitable so they're going to have to choose.)
I've been busy lately, so I havn't read this forum or even the headlines here recently, So when someone got me this disk for my Birthday this week I was suprised to see that it lists all three of the first three episodes on it, They hadn't skiped one afterall! YAY!
(I havn't actualy watched it yet, some things can't be rushed!)

I guess I have to eat my words a bit. The Fraggle DVD situation, while still not quite perfect, looks a lot more hopefull than I had thought. (YAY!)

-Andy

baby sinclair
08-10-2004, 12:29 PM
amen to that this dvd is better than nothing and i'm suprised it did so well. :D May it bring much more to us.

POCC
08-10-2004, 07:24 PM
I was torn between getting this premiere edition of fragglerock or waiting till October for the expanded version. My local Wal Mart never got it so my decision was made for me. Some test when it didn't even make it to all parts of the country. I can only hope the October release makes it here.

Avalon
08-11-2004, 12:28 AM
I finally got around the watching this DVD. I couldn't find it at my local Wal-Mart, but my Mom found it at a one up in PA, so she bought one for herself and sent me one. :P

Yes, the video quality isn't mind-numbingly stunning. But compared to the 20 year old videos I've been watching, it's a nice improvement. :) I'm wondering if they just used the same masters that were used on the video collections in the early 90s...

As for the audio issues, I didn't notice anything. If anything, I found some improvements. I could hear harmonies in the songs and some background stuff that I didn't recall ever hearing before. But then again, that could be due to the age of my tapes. :P

JaniceFerSure
08-11-2004, 02:12 AM
Rock on Fraggle Rock.Sounds like a good item to add to my dvd collection.:)

GoMoWeBoRe
08-11-2004, 09:53 AM
I got this huuuge package today wondering what's inside. the HIT-label on the side gave me a clue... . The DVD came along with an odd Barney Plastic Bucket with shovel. Id idnt order this crap, but anyway, its for free...

shipping to europe took about 1 week (instead of 6-8 as stated by HIT)

I love the episodes, video-quality is ok. i wonder why they put pingu-promotion on it as a 'bonus episode', :smirk: he isnt related to fraggle rock in any way...

baby sinclair
08-11-2004, 12:09 PM
On the next dvd pingu has to go.Heres my thoughts for the next release this october.I belive they should have the next 3 eps on and in the bonus eps they should have fraggle rock animated and and an episode of ghost of faffaner hall.Or any other show PRODUCED by HENSON.

Traveling Matt
08-12-2004, 01:41 PM
Funny you mention animated FR, Baby Sinclair. I just got off the phone with HIT, and they said that the next release (December 21st) will be a re-issue of the same three episodes we already have, but the bonuses will be a couple of FR animated episodes, along with a FR "album" (which is really songs on the DVD that you select and listen to on the TV). No mention what episodes or what songs, but those are the bonuses.

Also, HIT said they have received many requests for season sets and their research team is collecting data to possibly act on this excellent feedback.

So keep your fingers crossed!

muppet_dk
08-12-2004, 03:27 PM
That sounds great :excited:

I am just hoping that the special edition (and the boxset if it will be released) will be more widely released than the current one.

Traveling Matt
08-12-2004, 04:02 PM
That sounds great :excited:

I'am just hoping that the special edition (and the boxset if it will be released) will be more widely released than the current one.

Yeah, it's awesome. So keep those feedback cards and phone calls and letters coming, folks!! Also keep in mind Henson has an equal say in all the release stuff (it's not just HIT) so be sure to send feedback to them as well.

The person on the phone said their deal to release FR is exclusively with Walmart, so I doubt it will be different in the immediate future.

I also just realized I previously said the release date for the SE was December 21st. I forgot some of the current DVDs said "more coming in October 2004". The date was pushed back, so 12/21 is indeed correct (as far as I know).

baby sinclair
08-12-2004, 04:25 PM
Sounds awesome december is a very long time to wait hopefully they can throw in bells of fraggle rock also.And i'm happy to hear that hit is really listening to consumers sounds like they really know how to make some REAL money. :excited:

muppet_dk
08-13-2004, 07:03 AM
The person on the phone said their deal to release FR is exclusively with Walmart, so I doubt it will be different in the immediate future.

To bad, was just hoping that I could get it from a cheaper website than HIT's own online store, it's very expensive to get a order shiped to europe from that site, and the DVD is even more expensive than in Walmart :smirk:

BTW. In a mail I sent sometime ago I asked them if they would consider a widely release in Europe, since in many of the contries over here it's the US doc we are used to. They said that they did not have any release schedule for Europe at this time, but they are looking to do so in the future.

baby sinclair
08-13-2004, 11:24 AM
No effence dk,but i recall europe already having a fraggle dvd release that had 12 episodes and behind the scenes.Obviously hit sees a higher demand for the dvd in america and it'd be much easier making one for us any way.Cause most of us speak the same language.Also we have to remember hit is a rooky in the home entertainment buisness so they may not feel comfortable trying to dish out dvds across the globe and then make 0 profit back in return.But keep your fingers crossed ;) .

muppet_dk
08-13-2004, 01:35 PM
No effence dk,but i recall europe already having a fraggle dvd release that had 12 episodes and behind the scenes.Obviously hit sees a higher demand for the dvd in america and it'd be much easier making one for us any way.Cause most of us speak the same language.Also we have to remember hit is a rooky in the home entertainment buisness so they may not feel comfortable trying to dish out dvds across the globe and then make 0 profit back in return.But keep your fingers crossed ;) .
Thats correct if you would claim that a UK only release means all of europe, I know that people from the US have problems with identifying the countries in europe but to claim UK=europe is a bit to far.

BTW that DVD has gone out of production, since the contract with Columbia/tristar has expired, and is diffycult to get hands on right now.

Brian Damage
08-14-2004, 03:34 AM
A friend of our family in in America right now... Here's hoping she can pick up one of the remaining DVDs for us...

AndyWan Kenobi
08-14-2004, 09:34 AM
I was finally able to pick up this dvd yesterday, and I just watched the first episode. It's been so long since I was able to watch an episode of Fraggle Rock, and it's great to see it again! I can't wait for the subsequent releases, but I'm a little disappointed to hear that the next dvd will have the same episodes plus more bonuses. Oh well, I can wait for more episodes.

Movies205
08-15-2004, 08:41 AM
I went out and bought this the same day I read it was out on Muppet Central which was yesterday. I barely remembered the show, I hadn't seen it in ages, all I remember was the fraggle singing and going around the cave and liking it. Anyway I bought it and I loved it, great stuff. The only thing was I love how Jim Henson puts music in all there stuff and the songs are fabulous but the voice actors really aren't singers but that just a minor complaint, over-rall loved it and would love to see season sets. Am I the only one who thinks the old make is a sick, cruel and demented ******* :( That poor dog :cry: :D

Traveling Matt
08-19-2004, 03:06 PM
Well, the Special Edition is now listed on Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002VGU06/qid=1092945938/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-3382622-6554502?v=glance&s=dvd

erniebert1234ss
08-23-2004, 08:23 AM
I posted a review on MC reviews and I gave it a 4 & 1/2 Kermit rating (pingu being a minor annoyance). The episodes in question could not have been better merged; you actually have a moment to reflect before the next episode begins. Hip Hip HOORAY for HIT! Are there any more DVD releases for FR (as I got hooked on the "Where it All Began" DVD)?

BJ

Edit: needed parentheses!!

BJ :eek:

muppet_dk
08-23-2004, 11:02 AM
Are there any more DVD releases for FR (as I got hooked on the "Where it All Began" DVD)?
Yes there are 2 more Fraggle DVD releases. France has a boxset with the french doc, in french only. And theres a doubble DVD in the UK with the Captain. But these releases are going to disapear when the current stock sells out, it took me awhile until I found a online store that still had the UK release.

erniebert1234ss
08-24-2004, 08:13 AM
I meant US DVD releases!! :mad:

BJ

muppet_dk
08-24-2004, 09:40 AM
I meant US DVD releases!! :mad:

Well then try to be more specific the next time.

The next US FR release is the special editon of the DVD you already got.

Drtooth
08-24-2004, 01:27 PM
Considering my local Wal*Mart... way out on the highway as you can recall... either sold all out, or never got it in.... they did have the VHS for 6 bucks, but I pretty much have bad experiances buying VHS as of late (since I got my DVD player). I bought an old TMNT video, but it broke, and my Mark Hamil TMS video broke after the 3rd viewing, so pretty much, even though I'm dying to see FR, I just skipped it. Bought a Samuri Jack DVD for 5 bucks instead.

So, waiting for the special edition may not be so rough!

Klonoa
08-24-2004, 02:04 PM
Eeeeerrrrrkkkkk...

Samurai Jack DVD for five bucks?

Details please, kind sir.

--Klonoa

baby sinclair
08-24-2004, 03:17 PM
It was problably the premeire made for tv movie he bought.Pretty good movie i'd have to say.

Zack the Dog
08-29-2004, 02:10 PM
My Walmart restocked them now. i picked mine up last week. when it first came out the DVD's where GONE. which made me happy and sad, but as long as they are selling it's a great sign! the S/A Fraggle Rock DVD looks to be about 16.99 or something from reading on line so i hope that means more eps and stuff on it! i can easy sell my dvd for a few bucks or just give it to a friend when this one comes out. :)

Foodie
08-29-2004, 05:46 PM
My Walmart restocked them now. i picked mine up last week. when it first came out the DVD's where GONE. which made me happy and sad, but as long as they are selling it's a great sign! the S/A Fraggle Rock DVD looks to be about 16.99 or something from reading on line so i hope that means more eps and stuff on it! i can easy sell my dvd for a few bucks or just give it to a friend when this one comes out. :)

Or just keep one as a backup in case mean old Mr. DVD Player done come a long & eat your disc!
:smirk:

Nick

baby sinclair
08-29-2004, 06:55 PM
Ya i'll buy this new one for the animated episode Sort of disappointed they did'nt add more than one new episode but i'll keep my waterd down version as back up you never know what could happen.

McFraggle
09-06-2004, 01:34 PM
Well, I bought it yesterday and was pleased. Like others have said, I wish they would have split the first two episodes up but it's no big deal. Although there could have been more, this was probably the first FR episodes I have seen in 9 years so it was well worth it. :excited: Just a question: how soon into the show's run did they change the designs of characters like Gobo and others, I noticed a difference with Gobo between the first and third episodes.

baby sinclair
09-06-2004, 03:48 PM
i'd have to say around the 10th episode ma also changed in this one two.

Traveling Matt
09-13-2004, 01:48 PM
I just spoke with HIT this afternoon, and they said that due to feedback, season sets are now being considered :)

So keep that feedback coming everyone!

Mail form letters to:

HIT Entertainment
Attn: Consumer Relations (Fraggle Rock SEASON SETS)
P.O. Box 9000
Allen, Texas 75013

Toll free number:
1-866-405-7625

Also, the Special Edition will indeed be released on October 19th. Future volumes will be sometime in 2005.