I have EVERY Fraggle Rock Episode!

[movieman]

I have EVERY Fraggle Episode on VCD. Anyone interested? Email me at movieman221@mail.com I will trade or sell them.

[Phillip Chapman]

It is illegal to sell unreleased Henson material. Check this out for more info...

http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=11995

[Fozzie Bear]

What's a VCD? Is it like a DVD? Can it be viewed on a DVD player or only in a computer?

What is it and how does it work? (The quick answer).

[Whatever]

I've heard that they are burned onto a CD, like a DVD, but they are very poor quality, much worse than a VHS.

[jediX]

Essentially, take an ep-quality vhs, chop it down to am hour or so max, add the blocky compression look, and you have yourself a vcd. Its better just to make cdr's with the mpeg/avi files on them, then at least you won't be losing any more quality.

[dmx10101]

All the Muppets Tonight episodes I have are on VCD. It's just a regular cd with the show burned on it. A lot lower quality than DVD and a little lower than VHS. They play in most DVD players.

[Fozzie Bear]

I'll wait until the DVDs come to stores m'own self then.

[anathema]

What's a VCD? Is it like a DVD? Can it be viewed on a DVD player or only in a computer?

What is it and how does it work? (The quick answer).

VCD (VideoCD) was an early attempt to put digital video into the consumer marketplace. It flopped. The playing time of a VCD is the same as that of a CD - 74 or 80 minutes. Most DVD players (probably all of them by now) will play VCDs without problems.

However, the compression scheme used for VCD is pretty elderly now. It was good for its day, but technology has moved on quite a bit since the late 80s when it was designed! A VCD picture is significantly poorer quality than VHS. There are two basic problems: resolution and compression problems.

To give you a direct comparison, these are the picture resolutions of various systems:

PAL DVD: 720x576 pixels
NTSC DVD: 720x480 pixels

PAL VCD: 352x288 pixels
NTSC VCD: 352x240 pixels


If VHS were represented in the above terms, it would be roughly 352x576 for PAL and 352x480 for NTSC. Literally "by definition", VCD has half the resolution of VHS...

Compression problems are what lead to the picture looking 'blocky'. You may also see this on poorly-encoded DVD pictures; the cause is the same. The effect tends to be more pronounced on VCD, as there is less space available to store the data, and so a lot of fine details in the image have to be thrown away. Transferring something from VHS won't help much, since the picture is unbelievably 'noisy', and this translates into lots and lots of fine detail. Inevitably, in order to compress this, a lot of pertinent picture gets lost along the way :-(


The other significant problem is that VCDs do not support interlaced video. Anything that originated on interlaced video, which includes *all* videotape-produced Henson shows except VMC, will have juddery motion when transferred to a VCD, much like a great many bootleg DVDs do. How bad this problem is depends on whether the person who created the VCD actually knows the first thing about video, but there will always be a problem: it's a limitation of the format. To see a good example of the *type* of thing I mean, watch "The Muppets at Walt Disney World". In the shots where Kermit shares the picture with Mickey, the motion suddenly becomes very jerky when compared to the surrounding shots. This is basically what a VCD taken from interlaced video would look like.



As an aside, this type of question gets asked a fair bit around here. I am thinking of maybe posting a FAQ or starting a sticky thread where people can ask the questions (and look up the answers before asking :-). What do people think?

[Fozzie Bear]

Alex is a smart man!

Hmm...I haven't noticed you posting lately! Where you been?

[anathema]

Alex is a smart man!

Hmm...I haven't noticed you posting lately! Where you been?

Busy :-P And I'm off to Japan again on Saturday...

[Fozzie Bear]

Goood grief!

Well, I have an extra bed, and a futon, and you'll have your own room, so get 'em to send you to Memphis (all expenses paid,) and I'll be your client and you can treat me to BBQ dinner on THEIR bill!

[Philo and Gunge]

I have EVERY Fraggle Episode on VCD. Anyone interested? Email me at movieman221@mail.com I will trade or sell them.

I would like to trade with you. I have lots of goodies, e-mail me at lpapovitch@optonline.net

[movieman]

Sorry. I did read the terms and conditions. I will not sell or trade any vcds. I didn't know that it was against the rules. Administrator: please delete this thread. Thanks and sorry.

[Whatever]

I think you can trade these episodes, but not sell them.