Fun-4-All may produce Sesame Street Action Figures

[Gonzo]

Mr. Diresta, give them all our love and tell them we like to buy toys. We like to buy a lot of toys. When they're well-made.

I'm sorry if we're overwhelming you. This line could be a Sesame Street fan's dream come true.

Bring it on, daddy!

:p :(

[The Count]

So where's all the big news from the meeting that was supposedly to take place today between Mr. Pdiresta and Sesame Workshop? What happened with the concept art and sculpts for the figures? Were some of the suggestions from this thread validated and thus to be incorporated in future revisions of the prototypes?
Just curious to get out the interest for these figures once again.
Hope this helps and have a good night.

[frogboy4]

Where's the love? Where's the Sesame goodness? I guess we'll have to wait. :smirk:

[pdiresta]

hey all,
sorry I havent posted in a while.... been real busy. BUT, good news!
The meeting went wel wit Ses workshop. Lots of revisions.....bert's head will be totally redone, cookie WON'T have 5 toes?!, ernie's head will be smaller, bert's larger, cookie's eyes smaller, grover's feet smaller, cookie and oscar's fur "crazier" , their proportions will be much closer to the actual character's.....the "textures" will all be added...there are a ton more comments, but I ain't listing everything! (i know you all want me to). I mentioned all the characters that the "fans" want to see, and they were very excited.... Guy, 2 headed monster, telly, herry, mumford.... they were also very excited at the thought of doing a "chase" orange oscar, and a possible clear Snuffy down the line...So overall, good meeting, still lots of work to do, I'll keep y'all updated, you'll see the revised characters in a few weeks! Ciao!

[frogboy4]

hey all,
sorry I havent posted in a while.... been real busy. BUT, good news!
The meeting went wel wit Ses workshop. Lots of revisions.....bert's head will be totally redone, cookie WON'T have 5 toes?!, ernie's head will be smaller, bert's larger, cookie's eyes smaller, grover's feet smaller, cookie and oscar's fur "crazier" , their proportions will be much closer to the actual character's.....the "textures" will all be added...there are a ton more comments, but I ain't listing everything! (i know you all want me to). I mentioned all the characters that the "fans" want to see, and they were very excited.... Guy, 2 headed monster, telly, herry, mumford.... they were also very excited at the thought of doing a "chase" orange oscar, and a possible clear Snuffy down the line...So overall, good meeting, still lots of work to do, I'll keep y'all updated, you'll see the revised characters in a few weeks! Ciao!

Wow! That is certainly encouraging. Thanks for the update. Will be anxiously awaiting the pictures. :)

[WiGgY]

I like the sound of all those revisions. If all turns out well, I can see myself getting into this line. Since my only issue with Grover was the size of his feet, I think he's a definate buy/ I also like that an orange Oscar variant was liked by Sesame Workshop. And I didn't even think about a clear Snuffy!

With proportions being fixed and Bert's head getting a total resculpt, I've found a new interest and excitement in this line. In a month or so, when the sculpts are done and shown (assuming it takes that long) I'll know for sure how into this line I'll be getting. It may even force me to get a job to support both lines.

[Luke]

It may even force me to get a job to support both lines.

Oh god, no Wiggy, not that, anything but that - the ultimate sacrifice ! :o

Just kiddin ya ! :D

[The Count]

Thank you Mr. Pdiresta for taking the time to come here and let us know what's happening with the prototypes as you approach the final tooling and release next year. I'll wait for the pictures to be shown of the new revisions and for someone to describe them to me.
There's still just one major issue that should be addressed when sculpting/creating these figures. Will you continue to base the original sculpts on these "cartoonish" versions of the characters or will you attempt to strive for better likenesses between the figures and images of the puppets themselves?
This seems to be the one question still unanswered which would help settle a lot of doubts in a lot of us coming here and trying to help the growth of the new line with our suggestions, and it would also help qualm the concerns many have when considering whether to buy the figures or not once they're released.
Hope this made sense, that it helps and you have a good day, and that we'll hear from you soon on this topic.

[Drtooth]

hey all,
sorry I havent posted in a while.... been real busy. BUT, good news!
The meeting went wel wit Ses workshop. Lots of revisions.....bert's head will be totally redone, cookie WON'T have 5 toes?!, ernie's head will be smaller, bert's larger, cookie's eyes smaller, grover's feet smaller, cookie and oscar's fur "crazier" , their proportions will be much closer to the actual character's.....the "textures" will all be added...there are a ton more comments, but I ain't listing everything! (i know you all want me to). I mentioned all the characters that the "fans" want to see, and they were very excited.... Guy, 2 headed monster, telly, herry, mumford.... they were also very excited at the thought of doing a "chase" orange oscar, and a possible clear Snuffy down the line...So overall, good meeting, still lots of work to do, I'll keep y'all updated, you'll see the revised characters in a few weeks! Ciao!

OOOOhhhh I am all a tingle!!!! And they liked the Toix Orange Oscar chase varient as well... I am not too fond of Chase Varients on the whole, but an "Invisable Snuffy" and season one Oscar will definately get me going!

[Fozzie Bear]

BUT, good news! Lots of revisions!

YES!

*Starts to put money in a SS Action Figure Fund.*

[Gonzo]

That all sounds like good news, Mr. Diresta--thanks for taking the time to post the updates here and letting us know.

Can't wait to see what y'all are doing with them!

:)

[ReoRogerz]

I just read about the Sesame Street figures and although I'm more into the Muppet Show than Sesame Street, I'm a Muppets nut and I was thinking of getting them or at least just Cookie Monster, my all-time favorite Muppet. But I'll be honest with you, I looked at the sketches and these things don't look so good. Maybe it's because the Muppet Show figures are awesome and this is a different kind of figure being made, but these figures don't look any different from stuff that's already been made. Hopefully the finished product will look better. But my biggest complaint is WHERE THE **** IS BIG BIRD? He's in Series 2 but he should DEFINITELY be in Series 1. The most famous Sesame Street character ever and he's not in Series 1. I can't agree with that one.

[ReoRogerz]

Hey, I just want to apologize for the 4-star word I said in my previous reply. BTW, I just want to say, I was saying the H-word, not the F-word, I would never say that word on this site. Anyway, sorry about that.

[The Count]

Well, it's OK then. But just be grateful that you can actually see the pre-production prototype sketches/sculpts. I have to wait until they're already finished, released to the stores, put on the shelves, buy one, and open it to then touch/play with the figure to know if it does indeed at least seem to be a convincing action figure of said SS character. That's due to my bad batty blind eyesight.
Still wondering if during the revision phase they'll strive to have the figures' likenesses be more like the actual characters/puppets instead of these caricaturesque versions.
And does the license include figure versions of the human characters too, or just the Muppet characters?
Well, hope this helps and have a good day.

[WiGgY]

Well series 1 is already filled with classic characters. They need to save some for series 2 and beyond. Besides, now they no where to start as far as detail goes. I would think series 2 will start off on the right foot now.

[Drtooth]

Well, it's OK then. But just be grateful that you can actually see the pre-production prototype sketches/sculpts. I have to wait until they're already finished, released to the stores, put on the shelves, buy one, and open it to then touch/play with the figure to know if it does indeed at least seem to be a convincing action figure of said SS character. That's due to my bad batty blind eyesight.
Still wondering if during the revision phase they'll strive to have the figures' likenesses be more like the actual characters/puppets instead of these caricaturesque versions.
And does the license include figure versions of the human characters too, or just the Muppet characters?
Well, hope this helps and have a good day.

Well said, good chum... not to mention the oodles of changes Mr. P has given us a scant few posts ago. Bert's head will be totally resculpted, and Cookie's look will change dramatically.

Big Bird will most definately be made, to take a cue from Palisades, they need to save the top pop characters to round out obscurities like Guy Smiley and Biff the construction worker.

[WiGgY]

I'm a little surprised that the first wave is full of main characters. I know at least 2 or 3 could have been held for another series. Though, for the first wave, it makes sense to have them all as main characters to fortify the line and then move in fan faves.

BTW, will there be playsets of any kind or is it just figures? If not full sets, what anout mini environments like Big Bird's next or something?

[HerryGrail]

I've been away from the Forum for a little while and just read the whole history of these new figures. There seems to be a happy-ending of sorts now that this input meeting has taken place. I tilt slightly toward the classic Sesame Street characters as my favorite Muppets, and much prefer the 70s toys, which were based on the puppets themselves and not caricatured versions of them. This issue of the Muppets' representation in 3D has been a point of interest for some of us older collectors from the first product lines. That's why so many of us like the Wilkins and Wontkins puppets...they're absolutely stripped of any figural design interference. It seems like before the Muppets were popular, people appreciated them as high design without needing to adapt them for translation into dimensional puppets and figures.

The point for me is that these are toys based on...toys, on real puppets. As a collector you want the closest feel to the actual "product" as you can get. The early Sesame Street hand and finger puppets were based on this model, if not consciously. It was up to kids to bring these to life for themselves just as the Muppeteers did for them. Later in the 70s, we started seeing the caricatured Muppets, and that really preserved the 70s as the high point of Sesame Street merchandise.

There are some issues with any new Sesame Street figures that aren't as relevant to the Muppet Show figures. For one, except for Piggy and Fozzie and a very few others, we haven't seen significant redesigns over the past 20 years; all the Muppet Show characters and their later movie and TV cousins exist as a continuous, evolving family. But there has been so much redesign on basic Sesame Street characters over the years that one must ask, "How can 1990s Telly coexist with 1972 Ernie?" Do all the characters have to conform to the way they looked at a single moment in time in which all existed? If that's the case, we get snub-nosed Herry, little-eared Ernie, and others which are presumably less desirable to collectors. What is the standard?

(Maybe that could be solved with two simultaneous lines, a 1976 line and a 2000 line [without crossovers]. That way the doll-like designs of the newer Muppets wouldn't conflict with the classic designs of the older figures, and those of us who don't want the Baby Bears and Zoes wouldn't have to pass up Herrys and Counts who are hardly recognizable. Also, older characters like the Salesman would fit in better.)

The Sesame Street line would seem to need youth appeal, but does it really? Does a six-year-old want Sherlock Hemlock? Generally, is this the type of toy a child wants at all, with all the Sesame Street playsets and plush out there? If the new figure designs are being altered to have youth appeal, is that really necessary? Is there a youth market? I'm sure there has been ample market research done, but based on this thread it sounds like the collectors won't be buying if these are too juvenile. Do they really want to do the later characters? Do any of you really want them? Will they coexist with your visions of the classic characters?

Another point is that there have been many artistic interpretations of the Muppets. If you go with a cartoon look, why not the exquisite illustrations of Michael Frith? When I think of Muppet art, I think Jack Davis, but those would be pretty wild figures. But why settle for the bibs-and-bedsheets versions? Since we are promised redesigns I'll stop there.

So I ask: Aren't Suncoast-style Sesame Street figures really for adults? Aren't they too big and complicated and dangerous for kids? If that's the case, I hope the company takes into account both the likenesses and the characters they present.

[ReoRogerz]

You have a very valid point Herry. I, personally, don't want to see the newer characters, or at least I'd like them to be in the later waves. I would much rather have the earlier characters done before the newer ones. I will not be happy if Zoe and that bear, I forget his name, come out before the likes of Forgetful Jones, Don Music, Biff, Sully, Gladys, the Honkers, etc. One good thing though, is it looks like Fun-4-All sees our point, as Guy Smiley, who hasn't been in a new skit since Jim Henson's death over 13 years ago, is scheduled to be in Series 2.

And you bring up another great point: Who is this product marketed for? Kids or collectors? Sales of The Muppet Show figures indicated that more adults bought the figures than kids, whether the Sesame Street figures will have the same result remains to be seen. I think it depends on who they're marketed for. I, personally, would like the figures to be for collectors, because I think kids will want these no matter how they're made, so they might as well make them to appeal to collectors since the kids will probably want them anyway.

All this being said, I still haven't decided whether I will buy these figures. Looking at the sketches, it looks like these figures will be for kids and I just don't see myself finding the 'coolness' that the Muppet figures had. However, the finished product could be different, so I'm open-minded on this subject. I can assure you, however, that Cookie Monster will definitely be bought no matter how it's made. Two of them, one to open and one to keep in the box. Anyway, that's all I have to say, thanks.

[frogboy4]

There are some issues with any new Sesame Street figures that aren't as relevant to the Muppet Show figures. For one, except for Piggy and Fozzie and a very few others, we haven't seen significant redesigns over the past 20 years.

Actually Gonzo, Piggy, Zoot, Bunsen, Rizzo, Sam, Waldorf and many others have gone through siginificant changes through the years. The TMS chacters have evolved just as much change through the years. Even modern characters like Pepe and Clifford have gone through changes. The truth is, all Muppets evolve, not just Sesame. Don't know where that came from? :confused: :p :( :)

[WiGgY]

Actually Gonzo, Piggy, Zoot, Bunsen, Rizzo, Sam, Waldorf and many others have gone through siginificant changes through the years. The TMS chacters have evolved just as much change through the years. Even modern characters like Pepe and Clifford have gone through changes. The truth is, all Muppets evolve, not just Sesame. Don't know where that came from? :confused: :p :( :)

Yeah. All of them changed a lot. Even Kermit changed in color and a little in construction. Palisades has been able to combine the "best" versioons of each character when making the figures.

As for new characters coming before old ones, I don't think that matters. Why should it matter if Elmo comes before Don Music as long as both are made?

[HerryGrail]

I don't think the Sesame Street character redesigns compare with Muppet Show tweaking. The difference between 1969 Ernie and today's Ernie is extreme. Same for Bert, Big Bird, Herry, and so many others. The "human" ones even went from looking cloth-like to very porous and foamy. Because these are such simple designs, every change is very noticeable. There was poke-out nose Bert, then mid-70s flat-nose Bert, then big-forehead lots-of-hair Bert. And that was all only in the first dozen years.

The Muppet Show character design changes have just not been that drastic, except for Fozzie, Piggy, and a very few others after the first year or so. These designs are much more complex so changes are more subtle. I didn't think this would be a point of contention. It would be interesting to see an evolutionary comparison of major character designs from both "worlds." My belief is that deciding what the official Ernie looks like when sculpting his figure is much more difficult than deciding what the official (Muppet Show) Kermit looks like. I followed these changes closely through the first two decades of "Sesame Street" and the original run of "The Muppet Show." The Muppets in last year's Christmas movie were not as obviously different from their "Muppet Show" counterparts as the Sesame characters were from their early versions at the end of the same time span.

[Cap Backfire]

Several points to make here..
1: These figures have to have kids in mind FIRST, with collectors in a close second. I (personally, you all are entitled to your own opinions) that Fun for all is trying to find a happy medium. The figures will NOT be of the exact likeness we are used to, and spoiled by, Palisades. The cartoon-ish versions are more appealing to small children, and also allow for a single interpretation of the figures. In this case, "Big-eared Ernie and flat-nosed Herry" don't apply. It's a melding of the whole slew of versions.
2: The newer characters, while perhaps unloved by the adults, are the ones that are gonna sell to the kids (see above). While I might not be crazy abot Elmo or Zoe, I certainly will buy at least one of the figs for myself and another for my nephew, at the very least to promote the entire line, so I can possibly see the Amazing Mumford made somewhere down the line. Elmo might be tortured somewhere along the line and buried in a pit of dog poo, but he will still be purchased (And yes, I would do that to a toy. Don't ever ask me what I did to Luke Skywalker when I was a child. My father still has nightmares). So yeah, it might suck, but it's a necassary evil.
3: Who am I to give advice about attitudes toward a whole line, when I berate the MTI figs for even being produced (although I still find something to love about each of them-Polly Lobster and Sam's book w/ treasure map). We don't have to agree with every move a toy producer makes, but by GOD, if we want to see the lines made that we desire, we should find a way to defend them (at least in the final analysis) in their decisions. At some level, we all understand why they decide what they decide...
This has been my 3.5 cents... Thanks for your time.

Josh

[Drtooth]

Anyway, how good are our chances of seeing Little Jerry and/or Little Chrissy?

[WiGgY]

It doesn't really make sense to market these figures to te Sesame Street aged kids. They are like 3 years old. They won't be buying these things. Majority of consumers will be collectors. They keep action figure lines alive.

[Cap Backfire]

I'm not trying to be abrasive here, but come one dude... It's the "collectors" here who are constantly debating over which figures they will pick and choose from each series of Muppets, and these people are ALL die-hard muppet fans. If Fun 4 all is smart, and I am assuming they are to pursue this property in the first place, then they will market these things as a two-pronged attack. They can still be marketed to the kiddies and adults at the same time. All you have to do is keep accessories a little larger than Muppets lines, and make thim a little sturdy in the first place.
I do agree that collectors will be a major concern with this line, but come one, it's for the kids first!!! What kinda world are we in that Sesame Street figures should be made with 30-40 year old guys in mind instead of the 3 year old kid??? It's a sad one.
I do appreciate Mr Diresta's openness with this group, since we are certainly a target audience, but I would find it sad indeed to see this line tilted more towards me than my nephews.

[guysmiley4ever]

WOO HOO! I just noticed on the news page about the Sesame street figures.

*gasp* Super Grover....and...Guy Smiley...*drool*

*sniff* We have to wait for March?? sigh...

I hope Guy Smiley is wearing his suit and has a microphone.

I definatley want Bert and Ernie too!! :p :(

[The Count]

Yes, and we'll have to wait even longer for Guy Smiley, since he's in S2. At least, if things stay the way they've been projected as for now. Not saying that the Guy Smiley will be automatically scrapped from the S2 lineup, no I hope he's there along with my namesake as well, just using some of the sentiment learned throughout the year and a half of knowledge gained from the Palisades figure line. Can anyone say Beauregard bumped by bearish bobby?
Good, I knew you could boys and girls.
Hope this helps and have a good night.

[WiGgY]

I'm not trying to be abrasive here, but come one dude... It's the "collectors" here who are constantly debating over which figures they will pick and choose from each series of Muppets, and these people are ALL die-hard muppet fans. If Fun 4 all is smart, and I am assuming they are to pursue this property in the first place, then they will market these things as a two-pronged attack. They can still be marketed to the kiddies and adults at the same time. All you have to do is keep accessories a little larger than Muppets lines, and make thim a little sturdy in the first place.
I do agree that collectors will be a major concern with this line, but come one, it's for the kids first!!! What kinda world are we in that Sesame Street figures should be made with 30-40 year old guys in mind instead of the 3 year old kid??? It's a sad one.
I do appreciate Mr Diresta's openness with this group, since we are certainly a target audience, but I would find it sad indeed to see this line tilted more towards me than my nephews.

No child with buying power will buy a Sesame Street figure. Once a kid reaches the age of having money, he or she is way past pre-school and into older toys. Say a kid has money at age 7. At that age, kids today are into Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh and all the other anime stuff. They are way past Sesame Street. Besides, look at the list of characters they want to do. No kid watching Sesame Street now has ever heard or seen Guy Smiley, Sherlock Hemlock, Don Music, or any of the other old school characters.

The items should be made safe for kids, just in case a parent buys their 8 year old a figure instead of the Yu-Gi-Oh cards he really wants. However, it is the teen-adult market that buys action figures of any kind these days. And that is why these should have the detail that we have come to expect. There is no reason why it can't be done. There is no need to make these look weird and cartoonish for the sake of kids. I doubt a cartoon looking Bert will sell any better to kids than a realistic looking Bert. So, why cheapen the product needlessly?

And for the record I am no where NEAR 30. When I get around that age I don't think I'll be collecting any kind of action figure brand.

[Drtooth]

I feel that they need to have some relevance to kids... and here's why...


Remember Nestle Magic balls? Candies filled with a plastic ball filled with a toy? It was banned because some person didn't read the ages 3+ up thing on the lable...

A but load of Toylines are scrapped like this too. And since Cookie Monster, Ernie, Bert, ect. appeal to the 2-5 age group somehow, some person is going to pick the toy up for their 2-5 year old without reading the lable and then something's gonna happen.

I mean, it's nice to see that they've compromised on cloolecters and 3-5 year old. 7-12 year olds only blindly follow the masses explaining Yugioh and Beyblade (ICK on both).

and personally, if they did make a line of soley Ernie, Elmo, and Big Bird... I'd pretty much be ticked. I mean, I've been waiting for Guy/ Don/ etc. my entire life...

[WiGgY]

Yes, they should be kidsafe, but that doesnt mean they have to look cartoonish for the kids sake. That is the issue at hand.

[AndyWan Kenobi]

And for the record I am no where NEAR 30. When I get around that age I don't think I'll be collecting any kind of action figure brand.

Just wait... I'm 26, almost 27, and my desire for toys is going strong. You're never too old for action figures...

:)

[pxlforge]

Why not just wrap all accessories that come with each figure in a sealed plastic bag with a big strong warning on it that children younger than 3+ will choke on them, and should throw away the accessories in that case? Save on molded plastic tray that usually has to hold accessories too?

[Drtooth]

Parents usually ignore those warnings... well, ignorant ones who don't know how to raise kids, at any rate...

So who else wants to see Little Chrissy and Little Jerry?

[Fozzie Bear]

If they make this line of figures look real good, I want to see them ALL!! LOL!!

[MuppetQuilter]

If my three year old sees these figures, she's going to want them. And believe me, she will notice the accessories in the package and she will be extremely disapointed if she can't have them.

I don't think the likenesses have to be cartoonish to appeal to kids, after all, kids are the vast majority of the SST audience so I think it is safe to say the puppets hold a certain appeal with small children. But the figures themselves do have to be child-safe. I suspect Sesame Workshop wouldn't sign off on the toys if they didn't meet safety standards for small kids.

The kids may not go to the store with pocket money, but they do consume the vast majority of SST merchandise. Parents will buy these for their kids. Fisher Price makes a nice bit of change producing toys for a consumer market that cannot buy them for themselves. Three year olds are perfectly capable of making their desires known and mine can spot a Muppet at 40 paces.

[Cap Backfire]

Thank you, some much deserved backup here!! I thought my name was going to mean something and I would have my entire point "backfire" in my face. Wiggy, my point was to defend Fun-4-All in all oftheir decisions. Another poster (I really don't remember who, but I liked your point, whoever you were... Just bear with me here) stated that they would like to see multiple versions of the SST figs out, like 1970 Bert and Bert2k or something. Anyway, I personally thought this was a great idea for collectors (not for my pocketbook though!!). I just can't see it being vastly marketable. Hence the cartoonish imagery. Kids are drawn to it and you don't have finicky collectors debating over which ERA the figs are from. you can have a fantastic medium to meld the eras together with a different style. And I think the figures they already showed us looked pretty darn good for first drafts! As far as accessories, I have to say I will be dissapointed if they don't come with SOMETHING cool, especially if I am paying 8 bucks a figure for em... But I am sure our friends (P Diresta and all his chums) will have something for us.
All of us.

MuppetQuilter, you go out and BUY your kids these figs when they come out. And God bless ya for it too!!! I wish to this day that I could have used SST figs to play out things in my head as a kid. I was practically raised by that show!!!
Anyway, cheers to all and if anything I said/ say here is interpreted by anyone as a slam (personal) try and relook at my post. I usually don't slam people on the internet, especially for their own opinions, I mean that's why we're here after all. If I slam you, you will know. It will be like, Gorgon Heap!!! You have a silly name and the picture doesn't match it!!! Oh wait, it does.. I was thinking of the Trash Heap... Dang you for confusing me!!
Or something like: Why are there two Fozzies here!!! One is apparently Ken and I insulted him unwittingly!!! How dare you!!! Get your own names or call yourself "Fozzie and Ken-Fozzie" or something so I can discern... GRRRR.
See, those were personal slams (although they should not be taken as such since I have NO bad emotion towards anyone here. Yet. HAHAHA)
This was a little more than two cents. Sorry folks.

[Fozzie Bear]

Uuhhhh....

Okay, so what's the latest news on these figures?

[The Count]

Yeah, what's the latest news on the figures? Are the revisions happening as we speak? Will the likeness be based more on the puppets themselves? Will they be released and finished in time for a projected March 2004 date? Will we be getting playsets along with this figure line? Is the license for only Sesame Street Muppet characters or can you make figures of the human characters also?
Please let us know ASAP to the best of your knowledge, and have a good day.

[Gonzo]

And for the record I am no where NEAR 30. When I get around that age I don't think I'll be collecting any kind of action figure brand.

...I just saw this and had to comment.

;)

I'm the big 3-0, and if you're still collecting at 18-19, there's a good chance you'll still be picking these up (well, the good ones) when you're a geezer like me.

Then again, I'm crazy.

:crazy:


And let me second (or third) the notion that these are and should be marketed primarily to children--parents will be spending the cash, but the recipients of the goods will be the pups. The market share that represents FAR outweighs what the collectors will buy.

[pxlforge]

I never bought an action figure until I was 28. Now I am surrounded by them. Age has nothing to do with collecting.

[AndyWan Kenobi]

I never bought an action figure until I was 28. Now I am surrounded by them. Age has nothing to do with collecting.

Age also has little to do with the desire to play with toys. A neat toy is a neat toy!

:)

[Crazy Harry]

Okay, so what's the latest news on these figures?
They're made of plastic.

[ReoRogerz]

Muppet Quilter has a point. If these accessories are too small for little kids to play with, they're going to go crazy if they can't have them. And yes, there are more kids who watch Sesame Street than toy collectors. Since the day I heard about these figures I've gone on here stating how these figures need to have the detail that the Muppet figures have and I hope they do, but with the points that have been made, the chances of the older crowd getting disappointed by these figures are very good.

As for making figures of the adults, I wouldn't suggest it, they won't sell. The kids aren't going to want them, they're going to want the Muppets, after all, that's who they tune in to see. Although, it would be ILL if they made a Mr. Hooper figure. Again, it unfortunately won't sell, they'll probably make it an exclusive for that reason, but it would be great to see him immortalized like that. BTW, can you believe it's been TWENTY YEARS since his death. Amazing.

[Cap Backfire]

Well, of course we would WANT the figures to be of the quality we are used to (SPOILED with in fact) with Palisades, but we can't really EXPECT that. I am SURE the detail will be there, but maybe not in teh way we would absolutely want. Mr Diresta, I am SO down with these figs no matter how you make them, as long as the size is good. The Muppets were always alot like cousins to the SST gang to me anyway, so I don't expect them to be absolutely melded with another line anyway. Let us know what's going on over there sometime!!!

josh

[Drtooth]

I agree... I'd love Palisades Quality... but come on.. Palisades isn't the only toy company out there... I feel that even if they look exactly like the protos they will still be a billion times better than those Simpsonss and Hulk Movie action figures...

But I still think these are going to go further as time goes by... wait and see.

[ReoRogerz]

Are you crazy, the Simpsons figures are awesome. They really scored a home run with those. And sorry to tell you, but those sold A LOT more than the Muppet Show figures did. The line jumped the shark when they changed the packaging and made it confusing for collector's, but they are one of the greatest lines I've ever seen. It's sad to see it coming to an end, as they're running out of characters and are now left with just variants of characters they've already done, but those are some great figures. As big a Muppet mark as I am, you can't deny the greatness of the Simpsons figures.

[King Prawn]

I agree... I'd love Palisades Quality... but come on.. Palisades isn't the only toy company out there... I feel that even if they look exactly like the protos they will still be a billion times better than those Simpsonss and Hulk Movie action figures...

But I still think these are going to go further as time goes by... wait and see.

I'd have to agree with Dr. Tooth although I'm not so sure the SS line will sell better than the Simpson one, although I must say the only reason I think the Simpson line was so popular was because of the characters rather than the action figures, I know basing figures on animation is hard since there isn't that much detail but come on do I really need to start talking about their playsets?

[frogboy4]

Are you crazy, the Simpsons figures are awesome. They really scored a home run with those. And sorry to tell you, but those sold A LOT more than the Muppet Show figures did. The line jumped the shark when they changed the packaging and made it confusing for collector's, but they are one of the greatest lines I've ever seen. It's sad to see it coming to an end, as they're running out of characters and are now left with just variants of characters they've already done, but those are some great figures. As big a Muppet mark as I am, you can't deny the greatness of the Simpsons figures.

While the Simpsons aren't my favorite property, I acknowledge that they have a show on the air and are very popular right to modern consumers. The sets on the other hand are pretty cheesy, but they are also cheaply priced. It appears to me that details are the enemy of Simpsons figure designers, but they are cute and cater to that market. They also demonstrate the simplicity of the characters. They have no dense textures like the Muppets. They are perfectly fine for what they are and I would have found them "great" if I were new to the world of action figures.

However, to say the current Palisades figures have jumped the shark is to be terribly misinformed. Series five has done very well. Package revision came from Henson to keep their products uniform, but it there's no way it could confuse the most vacuous of simpletons. The Muppets are much more detailed characters and Palisades is a top form company trying to push the envelope on quality and articulation. I have a feeling if they took over the Simpsons license that the line would be twice as popular as it is now. The bottom line is - they care and it shows. It is a business, but it's not all business with them.

[Aerosmith]

However, to say the current Palisades figures have jumped the shark is to be terribly misinformed. Series five has done very well. Package revision came from Henson to keep their products uniform, but it there's no way it could confuse the most vacuous of simpletons. The Muppets are much more detailed characters and Palisades is a top form company trying to push the envelope on quality and articulation. I have a feeling if they took over the Simpsons license that the line would be twice as popular as it is now. The bottom line is - they care and it shows. It is a business, but it's not all business with them.

I think he was talking about the Simpsons figures. Not the Muppets.

[Drtooth]

Are you crazy, the Simpsons figures are awesome. They really scored a home run with those. And sorry to tell you, but those sold A LOT more than the Muppet Show figures did. The line jumped the shark when they changed the packaging and made it confusing for collector's, but they are one of the greatest lines I've ever seen. It's sad to see it coming to an end, as they're running out of characters and are now left with just variants of characters they've already done, but those are some great figures. As big a Muppet mark as I am, you can't deny the greatness of the Simpsons figures.

Yeah... definately talking of the Simpsons line... they really jumped the shark with a raw steak in their pants with Database, changing the scale for no apparent reason without warning, and making such an all and out bad figure.

I love the Simpsons line, myself. However, I think the latest figures (the wave after they changed the packaging) are just bad, not design wise mind you (well... except for Database) but because of the characters they chose... I mean, does anyone really want a Hellen Lovejoy figure, aside from completists? I mean, I collect them, but only the characters I like. I was going to get Tux Krusty, but I was dissappointed he didn't come with a Tux Mr. Teeny Pack in... would have been so cool, am I right? And I wish that they'd just make a Family Feedbag Moe w/removable Million Dollar Birthday Fries Basket hat and Dr. Collosus! But I am not saying they are bad... just they could have been better. I wish they sacrificed the talking function for more articulation (they could have made more characters too, as far as they didn't have to pay licencings) and better accessories, but I like them. Except I dislike how they make the Glasses detatchable on Flanders, Marvin Monroe, and Smithers, but not on Hans Moleman...

[ReoRogerz]

Aerosmith is right, it was the Simpsons figures I was talking about when I said they jumped the shark when they changed the packaging because it made it hard for collectors to keep track of who was in what series.

As for the Simpsons figures, I don't know, I think the line did a great job in the detail, I think they're exactly what you see on TV. Do they hold a candle to the detail that the Muppet figures possess? Absolutely not, but they're of a different kind of character. As Jamie said, the Simpsons are good for what they are and the same holds true for the Muppets.

As for the playsets, I think they were necessary because Moe's Tavern and the Simpsons kitchen and living room and the Kwik-E-Mart are as important to the show as the characters themselves. How many classic moments appeared at those places? One thing they SHINED at though was they made a figure of EVERYBODY you can think of and whoever they haven't made yet, they're scheduled to be made. Again, I think the Simpsons figures were a great idea and even when the line is retired they will be a hot item.

I do, however, miss the old packaging of the Muppet figures. I thought it went well with the show and with the brand. What better way to package these than with it looking like the Muppet Show stage? As much as I liked the old packaging, the line didn't jump the shark when it changed.

However, I hate to say it because I'm a HUGE Muppet fan and a HUGE fan of this line, but The Muppet Show figures have jumped the shark. When? When they made figures from the Muppet Treasure Island. Let’s not forget, this line was made to commemorate the 20th anniversary of THE MUPPET SHOW, not of everything to do with the Muppets. I don’t have a problem with the Treasure Island figures being made, nor characters like Pepe, Clifford and Johhny Fiama who came WAY after The Muppet Show went off the air. However, they should be made after the original characters are made. IMO, Pepe shouldn’t have come before Muppet Show icons like Statler & Waldorf. And instead of Sam from Treasure Island, they should’ve just made regular Sam. Before I go, because Lord knows I’ve ranted enough, where is Sweetums in all of this? He’s not even scheduled yet.

Before I get slammed for my comments, let me just repeat that I’m a HUGE Muppet mark and I love this line of figures, I just think that some characters should’ve come before others. But KUDOS to Palisades for announcing Pops and Lips in their line-up. Can’t wait to see those.

[frogboy4]

It's about something for everyone and not all to please one particular type of fan. There *has been no shark jumping* as far as retail sales figures between series one and five. Six appears to be strong too. What you mean is that it jumped the shark pertaining to your personal tastes - but that's not what the term is all about. Sam Arrow was a very popular figure even though there was a lot of pre-judge flack thrown his way. Many fans ate their words and picked him up upon seeing him in stores.

Between series 6 and 10 there are *many* classic TMS characters and playsets to choose from. I'm not sure if you've checked out the lineup listing. Next year we will get Frog Scout Robin (show accurate), Sweetums, Beauregard, Statler, Waldorf, Patrol Bear (show accurate), Lips, Pops, Regular Rowlf, Dr Bob Rowlf, Nurse Janice, Nurse Piggy, First Mate Piggy, Uncle Deadly, Fozzie with Chuckie (special nod to the Muppet Show skit), Classic Sam, Reissued Classic Animal and even a packin penguin and java "slinky" muppets packed with newcomer Sal. That's a heck of a lot of classic Muppet characters. *Something for everyone and not just one fan* It's a good plan in my eyes. :concern:

That's 19 figures in 5 waves! Nearly 4 TMS characters per wave on average.

[Luke]

It doesn't really make sense to market these figures to te Sesame Street aged kids. They are like 3 years old. They won't be buying these things. Majority of consumers will be collectors. They keep action figure lines alive.

I think majority will be kids actually, just about. Action figures or not Sesame merchandise still sells way more and is a way hotter kid brand than Muppets. The same parent who bought a kid 'Tickle Me Elmo' will use these as a pick-up item to introduce her kids to figures at around 3-6 years old. A totally different approach is needed than Palisades which focus on speciality collecting. It's cool for the Sesame line to be geared to kids but keep the adults interested as a bonus market but to do it the other way around would IMO be a massive mistake.

[WiGgY]

I know it way off topic but there is a liot of talk about jumping the shark here.

The muppets didn't jump the shark with series 4. The line was originally for the 25th anniversary of the Muppet Show, but the muppets are more than just that one show. Now the line is what it should be. It's a collection of all the characters from just about every project the muppets have been apart of. To say they jumped the shark just because MTI Sam came before TMS Sam is far too harsh. If they ONLY made MTI Sam, that's a different story.

To me, it doesn't matter if MTI Sam comes before TMS Sam. Both are being made, so why does it matter which comes first? The same goes for new characters coming before classic ones. So what if Pepe came one series before Statler and Waldorf? Both are being made. Why should it matter if Pepe comes out 3 months before Statler and Waldorf? I just don't understand the argument that it's bad to release new before classic or variant before standard. Besides, the Simpson line released all the classic characters first, and now people are complaining that there's nothing but variants.

As I said, the muppets are more than just the Muppet Show. What kind of collection would it be without Rizzo (a character that probably wouldn't be done since TMS Rizzo is nothing like the one we know) or Pepe (a new comer who is now a large part of the Muppet universe)? The fact is, in the muppet line, all characters are created equal, and so it doesn't matter who comes before who or what variant come before another. There are plenty of new characters to be made, but without variants, they won't be able to make it into the line.

So...uh...Sesame Street figures. Yeah...cool.

[frogboy4]

Well said. :)

[pxlforge]

Plus if they just made all the regular versions first and THEN started on the costumed variations the collectors who just want 1 version of each character wouldn't follow the line after the costumed versions come out. RThis way you have all sorts - some might buy a whole series, others just 2 or 3 of each series, and still more may just want 1.

As for the order in which these figures have come out, Palisades knows that anticipation is key. Its good to want things. Builds up consumer excitement.

As much as the MTI figures are wasted on ME, I know there are people out there who are eagerly anticipating them. I just try to keep in mind that I'm not the only one buying these and be glad of what we ARE getting.

Based on the laurels that Palisades refuses to rest on, I trust that any rumors of alleged shark jumping will be null and void once Palisades finishes the Backstage set and unveils it.

[Gonzo the Grape]

Has that Fun-4-All fella been here in the last four months?? Lordy, it seems like he's been jumped on the mean back alleys of Sesame Street. I hope we hear something soon.
Palisades has spoiled me by giving me great updates and inside info daily. I have a feeling Fun-4-all won't be heard from all that much.

[Cap Backfire]

Have they even got their own website yet??? I have never heard of this company, but that means nothing really. I sure hope they have the clout to put this stuff out, especially after all the hullaballoo... I gotta do a websearch for fun 4 all...

[Gonzo the Grape]

A note to those making these figures, I heard that they won't look as cartoony as the first peek we got (I hope this is very true). I just wanted to express an opinion that I think that the Cookie Monster should be a darker blue. That's it, all the other changes have been mentioned I believe. Thank you.

[Cap Backfire]

I couldn't find an official site for fun-4-all, but the only references I found were for a company of the same name which makes the South Park plushies, and Cheech and Chong nesting dolls... Does this sound suspect to anyone else??? Considering that we haven't heard squat from these guiys in like, a month??? I may be the last one to notice this since I am not generally suspicious, and can't possibly read all the posts here due to my case of AD... what was I saying??? Anyway, this sounds hinky that SST would do business with the same company who produces the other stuff (not that I don't love that stuff, or even HAVE half of it...) It just doesn't seem like the companies have hte same goals or something. Maybe I am just being crotchety and the almighty dollar means more today than it did when I was a kid... Or maybe it's a different company.. Who knows out there??? Can anyone help???

[floydnjanicefan]

I hope that we here back from Fun 4 All soon. A while ago he said the new protos would be done in a few weeks... I am anxious to see the changes that they made to the figures. :( :p :grouchy:

[Fozzie Bear]

Well, the revisions sounded promising. If they make these just right, I guarantee I'll be buying them!

[Baby Animal]

I couldn't find an official site for fun-4-all, but the only references I found were for a company of the same name which makes the South Park plushies, and Cheech and Chong nesting dolls... Does this sound suspect to anyone else??? Considering that we haven't heard squat from these guiys in like, a month??? I may be the last one to notice this since I am not generally suspicious, and can't possibly read all the posts here due to my case of AD... what was I saying??? Anyway, this sounds hinky that SST would do business with the same company who produces the other stuff (not that I don't love that stuff, or even HAVE half of it...) It just doesn't seem like the companies have hte same goals or something. Maybe I am just being crotchety and the almighty dollar means more today than it did when I was a kid... Or maybe it's a different company.. Who knows out there??? Can anyone help???

http://www.fun-4-all.com/

They at least updated the front page pic. It used to be a fall scene saying updating in October, '03. I expect it to change to 2004 soon.

It looks like they did the pic in Microsoft Photo Editor though. I get the same poor quality when I edit pics there.

http://www.fun-4-all.com/UnderConstruction.gif

[Cap Backfire]

Solid Poop. So where the heck is our update>!>!>! ! I'm only upset cause I was slated to do my own figs of the SST gang and if someone else is taking that time, then bully for them, and I can work on something else for the time being. But I just wanna know!!! Was original production on the Muppet figs this time consuming??? I thought not, cause they had Toyfare updates all the dang time!!!
Mr Diresta... you weasel... Give us SOMETHING!!! A "How the heck are ya'all" would suffice!!! Even if you aren't southern... Grrr... :boo: :grouchy:

[suggsy]

I still wish palisades got this license. The sclulpts would have been dead on and the first line would look something like this:

Oscar
Grover
Placido Flamingo
Guy Smiley

And we would all rest assured we'd see everyone in time.

[Drtooth]

>> I thought not, cause they had Toyfare updates all the dang time!!!
Mr Diresta... you weasel... Give us SOMETHING!!! A "How the heck are ya'all" would suffice!!! Even if you aren't southern... Grrr... <<

Comments like this are not tolerated here. I feel your anger, but please keep stuff like that to yourself.

>>I still wish palisades got this license. The sclulpts would have been dead on and the first line would look something like this:

Oscar
Grover
Placido Flamingo
Guy Smiley<<

I say, when he comes back, we pressure him for Placido! :halo:

[frogboy4]

Where is the love? I'd also enjoy seeing what's up. I'm sure when things are at an appropriate stage we will see something. Don't forget that figures take 6-9 months to make properly. :)

[Cap Backfire]

Dr Toofus, I was kidding. I was pretty sure people here could take a joke, or they wouldn't be involved in the Muppets in the first place. If I offended anyone... Then I guess I'm sorry... I don't feel I should be, but if it helps keep the peace... I guess I am. I'll try and keep my posts straightforward and without any hint of sarcasm. Again, Sorry.

Josh.

[Drtooth]

Where is the love? I'd also enjoy seeing what's up. I'm sure when things are at an appropriate stage we will see something. Don't forget that figures take 6-9 months to make properly. :)

And at the stage they were in, probably more!
:crazy:

Yeah... I'd love to see them too. I wish he'd hurry up... but I'm surprisingly patient.

And Captain... Sarcasm is really hard to pick out from reading (since sarcasm isusually denoted by voice tone), so that's why we have these emoticoms to denote sarcasm. Name calling of any kind, even if it is just ribbing is a very dangerous thing tto do on a web board. Believe me... :p

[Fozzie Bear]

Name calling of any kind, even if it is just ribbing is a very dangerous thing tto do on a web board.

Not only that, but the ribs' BBQ sauce makes the keyboard all sticky later.

I'm ready for some kind update!

[Drtooth]

Only if you eat with your hands.... ;)

[Fozzie Bear]

I wouldn't try to eat with my feet. That was a mess!!

[Cap Backfire]

Emoticons for everyone!!! ;)

So sorry for the confusion and the treading on dangerous ground. Just call me a rebel!!!

I have to say that I am simply with Fozzie. I don't expect some kinda pics or prototypes or anything... Just a heads up and a how do you do would suffice for me. That's all I was ever asking for. I can only imagine how difficult it is to come up with a stunning line of figures that have a hope of selling.

And in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that!!!

[frogboy4]

Apparently these are to be out this spring. That means they should be ready very soon. My guess is that the release date has been pushed back to summer. I also don't think prototypes will be posted at such a conceptual phase. At least I hope that was a conceptual phase. :p

[WiGgY]

I just hope they change everything. I think they went with the cartoon look because it's easier to make. The pattern on cartoon Ernie's shirt is very simple. The pattern on the real thing is a little more complicated with more strips.

Anyhoo, unless they did push back the release date, I doubt these will look the way any of us want them too. Bert is simply awful. I'd much rather make my own.

[Drtooth]

I just hope they change everything. I think they went with the cartoon look because it's easier to make. The pattern on cartoon Ernie's shirt is very simple. The pattern on the real thing is a little more complicated with more strips.

Anyhoo, unless they did push back the release date, I doubt these will look the way any of us want them too. Bert is simply awful. I'd much rather make my own.

Yeah... I have to say, Sesame Workshop's licensing department... really... why cartoon versions? It works for T-shirts and patches, but it doesn't work for the toys...

I have heard that Bert's head was completely resculpted (hopefully for the better) and it should hopefully look much better... but judging by you're work? You could do better no doubt!
:D

[muppet maniac]

I want..

-Lefty the Salesman
-Grover the Waiter
-Fat Blue
-Benny Rabbit
-Cookie Monster as a Baker
-Oscar as Super Grouch

[Cap Backfire]

What's the top ten most wanted SST figs for you???

1: Oscar the Grouch. my all time favorite
2: Cookie Monster
3: Herry Monster
4: Super Grover (Yeah, I'll keep my list somewhat simple here... So far two of my faves are hypothetically being made)
5: Frazzle
6: Ernie
7: Bert
8: Little Bird
9: Snuffy
10: Mr hooper commemorative figure (I had to put ONE that for sure wouldn't be made...)

[Fozzie Bear]

10: Mr hooper commemorative figure (I had to put ONE that for sure wouldn't be made...)

LOL!! It wouldn't be tradition if you didn't; seems folks were even asking for a Harvey Korman figure when Palisades picked up the Muppets Licenses in the beginning.

Cookie Monster
Bert
Ernie
Big Bird
Snuffy
Grover
Count
Prairie Dawn
Herry
Frazzle (Who was a Fraggle, but got a speech impediment---get it? HAA :o )

[Cap Backfire]

COUNT!!! Dagnabbit, I forgot count... I have to change him into my actual list of wants... Count RULES... Witha few "batty-batty-bats"!!!

I guess I DO have a habit of desiring figs who will never be made... It's only a dream until it comes true!!!

[beaker]

Ok...I have to admit...I aint so down with the whole "early 70's concept art" look weve been seeing on tin trays and other SS merchandise...and I have to agree...it would be best to make Sesame figures based off the most modern incarnation of the Sesame puppets and look.

Anyways, Im assuming Toy Fare is when we'll actually see more finished product of this?

Ive been a fan of Fun 4 All for awhile, from the keychain plushes in 2001 to the 3d animator figures...I just sadly would have to agree modern puppet based is the way to go.

[The Count]

OK, who are you and what have you done with the real Corey? Is this the same poster who likened the transition of ownership of the JHC back to the Henson family with the current embrollio taking place in Iraq? Man, to think... well, my only hopes are that the designs of the figures will be more akin to the actual puppet's look rather than cartoonish or caricaturesque interpretations of the characters themselves. Maybe a sort of melding between old and new like what Palisades has done with some of their figures, but maintaining fielity to the actual Muppet's appearance.
Hope this helps and have a happy holidays.

[Baby Animal]

Well, looking at the fun 4 all website, (http://www.fun-4-all.com), they have one day until they have to change their sign again.

It must either be one heck of an update, or it must not be that important. Once it's set up, it should be pretty self-sufficient. Come on... you can do it :)

[beaker]

Well, looking at the fun 4 all website, (http://www.fun-4-all.com), they have one day until they have to change their sign again.

It must either be one heck of an update, or it must not be that important. Once it's set up, it should be pretty self-sufficient. Come on... you can do it :)


Well it shouldnt be as bad as http://www.muppets.com ...they havent updated that site since Regan was president!

[muppet maniac]

I have some SS action figures from years ago--in the 80's--and they were okay. Big Bird, Oscar, Bert, Ernie, Cookie and Grover. Big Bird swivels at the neck, shoulders, waist; Oscar pops up and down in his can and it locks--push the sides and his head pops up; T joints in the crotch of both, but Bert and Ernie also had swivel necks and shoulders; cookie had a cookie in his hand (a YELLOW cookie!) and swivelled at the neck, shoulders, hips; Grover was rubberized and had bendy arms and legs. How'd they compare in likness to the characters? they were okay, but nothing to write home about.

I never knew about those SS action figures from the 80's.They must be pretty cool.What company made those?Are there any pictures of them anywhere?

[Drtooth]

Ok...I have to admit...I aint so down with the whole "early 70's concept art" look weve been seeing on tin trays and other SS merchandise...and I have to agree...it would be best to make Sesame figures based off the most modern incarnation of the Sesame puppets and look.

Anyways, Im assuming Toy Fare is when we'll actually see more finished product of this?

Ive been a fan of Fun 4 All for awhile, from the keychain plushes in 2001 to the 3d animator figures...I just sadly would have to agree modern puppet based is the way to go.

I'd agree with that statement... I however, dislike the New look of Ernie and Bert, they seem over perfected and look more like puppets than ever... I hope they can change the current desgins we had a long time ago with Puppet Likenesses... really hope so.

As long as they do NOT look like posers! I have yet to see a decent Cookie Monster Poser... he always looks too furry, and more like a stuffed animal to me than Cookie Monster...I hate the poser Piggy and Kermit, but there's a special place in heck for the Cookie Monster Poser!

[AndyWan Kenobi]

As long as they do NOT look like posers! I have yet to see a decent Cookie Monster Poser... he always looks too furry, and more like a stuffed animal to me than Cookie Monster...I hate the poser Piggy and Kermit, but there's a special place in heck for the Cookie Monster Poser!

Well, I've always considered myself a Cookie Monster Poser, and I think I'm pretty decent...

;)

[Cap Backfire]

OK, I'm the self proclaimed idiot... What the heck is a Cookie Monster/ Miss Piggy/ Kermit poser??? I have NO idea what you are talking about, but am certain I would hate them too... So I have to know what they are first so my rage can be directed instead of loose as it is right now.

Thank you for your time Good Doctor!!!


Josh

[WiGgY]

Posers are stuffed animal like muppets used specifially for promotional photos. Just about every picture of a muppet you have seen is a poser, unless it's from a tv show or movie. The pictures of the muppets on the Palisades toys are posers. Some are better than others, and like the puppets the change over time. Notice how different the Fozzie on most merchendise is compared to the current puppet. That is an example of a poser that does not reflect the current character. Happens sometimes.

Posers of real hand puppets, as opposed to rod controled hand, are usually poor interpritations of the puppet. Look at the Chef puppet, and then look at the Chef poser. The Chef puppet has actual human hands and no defined arms. The poser has nasty looking human wanna be puppet hands, and clearly defined arms. I'm sure a similar problem occurs with Cookie and Ernie.

So far, these figures are based on aweful cartoon Sesame characters. This means the patterns on the shirts are far less detailed (just look at cartoon Ernie and real Ernie. Huge difference) and the likenesses will be a far cry from the puppets. So, we won't get aweful poser interpritations, we'll get aweful cartoon ones.

Oh, and they stole the Oscar design from the Kubrick. They are exactly alike and have the same pop up from the can feature. The figure is a little more detailed, though, because they added stuff like fur. But it's basically the same thing.

[Fozzie Bear]

OK, I'm the self proclaimed idiot... What the heck is a poser???

Not knowing doesn't make you an idiot; it's knowing and not acknowledging!

For really good help on this subject, here's an article from ToughPigs.com about the Posers:
http://www.toughpigs.com/journalposeur.htm

[Cap Backfire]

Not an idiot, but ABSOLUTELY ignorant.. Or FORMERLY ignorant!!! Thanks for the help guys, it means alot to me to know the glory of posers and some new action figure lingo. I call it "figtioningo!!!" OK, that took me all of 45 minutes to come up with and 20 minutes to spell. So somebody better be laughing out there... :grouchy:
I'm sure to bring my ignorance here some more..

One more thing... Conceptually, I have yet to be dissapointed in the cartoon styling of these figs... I take that back... Surly Bert was pretty bad, but the rest of the prototypes looked OK to me, and they kinda keep people from arguing about which era Bert or Ernie is better or should have deserved a fig more than another... But this is just one ULTRA minorities opinion...

Keep doing what you do

[WiGgY]

I don't think there would have been any era arguing. A lot of the TMS muppets changed over time, and there isn't any ear arguing that I know of. I think the cartoon style is a cop out. It gives these things an excuse to be less detailed. Hopefully something new has happened, and these have gotten better. Of course we haven't heard anything in a very long time. So, I don't expect much.

[Fozzie Bear]

I liked the Grover.

[Drtooth]

I have to say, with time I like the protos less and less. Grover I still have to say looks good, but Bert's head is starting to give me nightmares....

I hope this time they're not responding they're pulling all nighters on this. I still will buy them, regaurdless, but I want to see some changes, as does everyone else....

anyway I hope we can see a sneak peak of Series 2 as well....

[Rugby]

I also like the Grover, but the rest don't excite me. They don't really look to me to be styled after any 70's Sesame art work that I've ever seen either. Bert just looks weird. Ernie looks rather generic. The jury is still out on what I think of Cookie and Oscar. I'd like to see detailed replicas based on the 70's sesame muppets, not the art. Some of the 70's muppets look dramatically different than the muppets of today on Sesame. Ernie, and especially Bert used to look downright scary, but I liked that. I like their current look today. They just seem to look like the old Ernie and Bert that were swollen up from bee stings. :)

[Fozzie Bear]

That's the thing Fun4All is missing out on: If you base the figures on the puppets, you may be able to convince Sesame Workshop to allow you to do current AND CLASSIC likenesses--More figures to produce and more money coming in, and a ton of happy collectors.

Thing is that where action figures are concerned for Sesame Street, the collector's market has been left in the snow and given junk.

[Cap Backfire]

Yeah, I hear ya Fozzie B. There really hasn't been that much quality for Sesame Street in ages (does anyone remember the playsets they used to have that looked like a fold-out SST with finger-puppet like characters??? There was another playset too that had some weird action things too it... It was supposed to be the back of SST or something, or maybe just the park next door... Anyway, that was the BEST toy EVER. I think I played with that untill... Just yesterday with my nephews. Still love it after all these years.) I have to repeat my statement that, KIND OF unfortunately, the toys will be geared towards the 3-5 age group, maybe a LITTLE older, and the cartoon images would most likely be ideal for that audience. I know it kinda sucks, but if that's what it takes to get me a Cookie Monster and Super Grover with a possible (all time fave) Frazzle??? I have NO problems with toonie figs. I too hope they can find a way to produce the realistic versions based on likenesses of the puppets, but I will take, wholeheartedly, the current versions they have (as long as they make Bert less creepy).

[Erine81981]

Until I see what they look like I'm going to buy them. As in the pics I've seen are just prototypes not what they might look like. So I can't wait to see what they look like so....I'm just happy that I'll get to see SS action figure.

YEA!!!!!!

[Gonzo]

I've been out of the MC loop for a little while, but have there been any new developments or rumors or whispers or lies from the Fun-4-All people?

I'm wondering if PDiresta got a spanking for posting those prototypes so early in the process?

Hopefully we'll see more stuff at Toy Fair next month.

More better stuff.

:halo:

[Cap Backfire]

Nothing new yet Gonzo. I think they spanked him so hard his hands fell off dude... I never thought he would get in trouble or something... Weird.

[Fozzie Bear]

Hopefully we'll see more stuff at Toy Fair next month. More better stuff.

I'm hoping and wishing, too! I'm very picky these days over what I buy for my collection. If they get these figures looking just right, I'm buyin' 'em.

As for now, the only collections I'm buying are the Peanuts, Muppets, Pink Panther (When available), and Ghostbusters (when available).

[Cap Backfire]

Dude, I know this is off the topic, but Ghostbusters are coming up wiht a new line??? When and where please!!!

[Fozzie Bear]

NECA, February, USA; It consists of both Terror Dogs, Slimer, and Gozer, I believe. They are also the same company that has the Ghostbusters slimer/no-ghost logo christmas tree lights, Slimer and Mr. Stay-Puft bobbles.

More info at the www.ghostbusters.net message boards; I'm KWilliams there.

[floydnjanicefan]

I really hope that we get some news on the Sesame Street figures soon. I am beginning to wonder if they are even going to come out at all... :grouchy: :( :p

[Drtooth]

As for now, the only collections I'm buying are the Peanuts, Muppets, Pink Panther (When available), and Ghostbusters (when available).


To be honest... I tried to like the Peanuts line... but I just couldn't get them... I have a set of 3, Chuck, Linus, and Patty. That's all I plan on getting unless they miraculously find a way to pull out Marcie.

Plus they canned Spike. He would have been the best figure in the line, personally...

I personaly don't care what these look like, I'll still get them. I love Sesame and I want them to have a new GOOD Sesame product line. I mean, 100000 dancing Elmos...ugh.

On the other hand, I just can't stand the Bert they have now... hopefully the finish will be good.

I just hope we finally get to see 3d PLASTIC represnetations of Guy Smiley and 2head monster.

[WiGgY]

They are supposedly resculpting Bert, but he'll really need an overhaul. I think I'll only get Super Grover from what I see now. Maybe we'll see something from Toy Fair.

BTW, anyone else notice that Oscar is the same of the kubrick one? Same action feature too. Hopefully he''l get changed as well.

[Fozzie Bear]

To be honest... I tried to like the Peanuts line... but I just couldn't get them... I have a set of 3, Chuck, Linus, and Patty. That's all I plan on getting unless they miraculously find a way to pull out Marcie.

She's due out soon, at least in a playset. Generally, so far, the characters found in playsets have been carded also.

Back on topic, has anybody seen any news of these SS figures in any magazines or anything else?

[Drtooth]

BTW, anyone else notice that Oscar is the same of the kubrick one? Same action feature too. Hopefully he''l get changed as well.

I dunno about him... He will still have the same feature I guess, since we never ever get to see oscar's entire body (Even in Jim's early sketches of him are from the waist up). I mean, I've heard you can see it breifly in one episode as he's shot out of his can, but that's it... Though we do see his feet.

Be cool if he had detatchable legs to put at the bottom of the can...
:smirk:

[Fozzie Bear]

I don't want a detachable Oscar: I want a full-body Oscar (it's not hard to imagine from his chest to his knees what his body looks like--green and furry!), with articulated legs and arms and neck. As it stands, all we were getting is a large PVC of him.

I'm starting to think that this line isn't going to go very far unfortunately. I'm very picky about what I buy nowadaze. I might not get this line after all if they don't do some major revisions, and my faith in the line is faltering fast.

[Cap Backfire]

IF Fozzie is losing his faith, it must be sore indeed. Speaking of Fozzie, dude, what's with changing your avatar every 38.2 minutes??? This one of him apparently running out of the shower is slightly disturbing... HAHAHAH, just kidding.

Anyway, I have faith that these figs will be changed drastically since these first photos were initial prototypes, but it HAS been some time since we heard ANYTHING. That is more disturbing than shyly naked Fozzie...

[Fozzie Bear]

I change the avatar every week for fun, and to keep it entertaining to those who have to see my posts (which I have a lot of because I have no life, and I have to do something while I'm at work sitting on hold).

The drawing is from some art I did that got used in the galleries of Playstations Muppet Monster Adventure, which I didn't even know got used! They asked for submissions, so I sent, and am surprised to see it used (thanks to Scarecroe for telling me and sending me screen grabs!!); I used only the Fozzie Bear portion of one pic since that's my screenname.

[Cap Backfire]

Sweet Fozzie! I was only kidding around, I appreciate the change of scenery you offer to us.

Also I totally enjoyed the artwork! I'd love to see the whole pic if you have it handy. It's kinda small so all I saw of water was the drops from Fozzie's head, hence the shower reference, and the fact that any parts that would be covered on a naked person are covered by his other body parts. Simple mistake as far as the pic is concerned. And it was darn funny...

Anyway, yeah, I'd love to see that pic in full! I only assumed it was pulled from somewhere else on the net. For that I AM sorry. Sorry to assume you didnt' do that work yourself. Congrats on having it used though!!! :excited: :crazy: :halo:

[King Prawn]

I know it's quite a small picture but at least it something new to talk about.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3171688844&category=19234

I do think they look a bit better but they're still not Palisades Quality as the were described as.

[frogboy4]

That link didn't show up. :( Could you post it again please? :)

[Luke]

They look nice, a lot more kiddiefied (a bit plasticky PVC'ish) but still good figures from what I can see. The accessories are well chosen too - Rubber Duckie and Bernice The Pigeon (who is obviously suffering from a poultry identity crisis what with Black Tux Gonzo's chicken). According to the auction they ship in 30 days which is a bit sooner than expected.

[Cap Backfire]

How the heck could this guy get these figs and what's the deal anyway??? They look EXACTLY like the prototypes... And 30 days from shipping??? I have to do some internet exploring here. This is simply too bizzare for me...
I'm all up with the jibblies here... :cool:

[King Prawn]

I do think they could be better but from what little I can see they do look much better than the prototypes except maybe Grover's mouth but besides that I think they look much better especially Oscar he looks great.

[Luke]

Yeah they do look different from the prototypes, a bit.

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Funny that they ship 30 days after the end of the auction. Does that imply that the person selling them doesn't actually have them right now?

[WiGgY]

How could you possibily tell if they are different? That picture is tiny and blury.

This is an ebay pre-sale. Anyone can start one now. Someone had a Mega Gonzo pre-sale in like October. Don't go by this one auction from someone who may not realize what the actual date of arrival is.

[Luke]

Well from that size it looks like Ernie is facially a bit different, mouth closed a bit more. Oscar looks quite a bit different, the hands on the trashcan can actually be made out as hands rather than green ooze and they all generally look a bit better painted and defined. Just a guess but it looks different to me, and its a totally new pose which he's got from somewhere.

[WiGgY]

I just compared the first pics to these and they look exactly the same, only from a different angle.

[King Prawn]

The picture is quite small and i'm not saying that they're 100% improved but I do see some improvment, you might be right Wiggy it might be the angle the pics been taken in or the lighting but they do look somewhat better than the proto's. I still don't see Palisade Resemblance as they used to say at the start but I do see some improvment's.

They do look better than the Simpson line in my opinion but maybe I'm wrong we'll have to wait and see.

[Fozzie Bear]

Cap: The pics show up at www.picturetrail.com/muleythemule under the Portfolio Album.

RE: Figures--
Super Grover still looks fine; the others still look like they did. If this is the improvements, blah. I don't like them. If this is how the line is going to look then I won't be buying them. I already have cartoony SS Figures.

[Cap Backfire]

OK, I did a little research and contacted the guy who has this presale up for bidding. Here's what he told me---

-It is possible that the bidder will have to wait up to 4 weeks longer (possibly TWO months) as the bidee has no actual idea when they will ship.

-I asked for some kind of contact where I could verify any of the facts/ pseudo-facts and I was told that he was an adequate contact... So that got me nowhere.

-suggested retail, according to this guy, is $14.99. In that case these are WAAAAY expensive.

Now, I don't know this guy from Adam, but he has nothing but positive feedback, so he must be doing SOMETHING right! Other than that, this email was frought with potentially bad news. High price, not much change (Bert is still horrendous with that funky eyebrow), not many accessories... This is starting to sound like a line that I will have little to no interest in, especially at $15 a pop... I hope Mr Diresta posts something soon to renew my interest by telling me this ebay-dude was at least semi-bogus.

Hope I was some help here and didn't burst any bubbles, but I wanted you guys to know what I now know. Maybe if we all chant loud enough, Fun 4 All will actually have their website back up so that we aren't waiting idly here...

[Warrick]

The images on eBay are the original prototypes.

Im sure the finished product will look much better :D

[Luke]

Maybe it was just the lighting and angle then but they sure looked better to me. There is no way the RRP for these is gonna be $14.99 each, i think the seller is probably hoping to get bids from people thinking they'll get stuff sooner than the release date. I actually don't think they look that bad at that angle even as prototypes - they ain't anywhere near Palisades stuff, but then they aren't the worst i've seen either. I won't be buying into the line much even if they get a lot better but i might pick up a few favorites.

[Drtooth]

I agree... it costs more for people who want to grab them before they are actually released.

I am a little dissappointed that these look the same, but I will buy them regaurdless... just after I get the Muppet figures, of course.

[WiGgY]

If these are 15 a piece, the line will die with series 1. I wouldn't even pay 15 a piece for the regular muppet line. I barely tolerate that price for exclusives.

These are definatly prototypes. This guy does not have these in hand. Perhaps someone should contact ebay to get this pre-sale removed. You can't have a 2 month pre-sale. Also, if anyone wants to go back abd find the product managers e-mail, I'd suggest sending him an e-mail to see if he responds to any price concerns.

[floydnjanicefan]

Also, if anyone wants to go back abd find the product managers e-mail, I'd suggest sending him an e-mail to see if he responds to any price concerns.

I tried emailing the product manager of fun-4-all about a month ago just to see how the figures were coming along and I got no response...

[Aerosmith]

Diamond Comics website(Previews Catalog) also list the SRP for $14.99.

http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/02_04/06_sesame_street.htm

BTW isnt Grover supposed to be as tall as Bert?

[Luke]

Diamond Comics website(Previews Catalog) also list the SRP for $14.99.

OMG - they are pretty much priced out of the kids market and more or less out of the speciality market too. They were originally talking about places like Target, Walmart and TRU taking them too. I expected $5.99 or something. At this price i don't see it lasting long and just being stocked by comic shops and things. Kinda brings us to the point though that if they have priced themselves out of the kiddie market then why stay so basic and limited now there aren't those things to worry about. I think this whole thing is starting off as a mistake right from the start and reflects quite badly on SW.

[floydnjanicefan]

Diamond Comics website(Previews Catalog) also list the SRP for $14.99.

http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/02_04/06_sesame_street.htm

BTW isnt Grover supposed to be as tall as Bert?

This is so crazy! There is no way that I can buy these figures if they cost that much. Especially when they look more like they should be worth 4.99 - 5.99. :boo:

[Aerosmith]

Especially when they look more like they should be worth 4.99 - 5.99. :boo:

Looks more like they should come in a Happy Meal.

ZING! BURN! :halo:

[WiGgY]

OMG - they are pretty much priced out of the kids market and more or less out of the speciality market too. They were originally talking about places like Target, Walmart and TRU taking them too. I expected $5.99 or something. At this price i don't see it lasting long and just being stocked by comic shops and things. Kinda brings us to the point though that if they have priced themselves out of the kiddie market then why stay so basic and limited now there aren't those things to worry about. I think this whole thing is starting off as a mistake right from the start and reflects quite badly on SW.

Exactly. Nothing they can do will make these worth 15 dollars. At that price, it's not even worth getting a figure just to test it out. Say good bye to the Sesame Street line everone.

[Cap Backfire]

There has to be light in this tunnel at some point. With the new price increase, you guys sure have some hella-valid points about this line not being geared toward ANYONE. If they only go to specialty stores the SRP will be raised at least a buck... This stinks. Well, it's back to the drawing board for me then. Looks like my investment in the clearance priced Butt-Ugly Martians. Those guys have great size and articulation for custom Muppets, I think they'll do fine as SST figs too. This means alot of scratching and sculpting though... Grrrr... I should figure out how to do production molds and sell the little things off (in pieces) somehow. There has to be a way... Grrrr... :grouchy:

[matleo]

Well, Phil has been here. I was lookingat his profile and it said his last activity on the forum was January 7th, 2004. So he obviously swings by form time to time and reads. At least I assume he reads this thread. Oh well, guess we'll just have to wait and see what the figs arelike when they're released. I imaginewith toyfair only a few weeks away maybe we'll see something. Althouh like Luke ando thers have said, even if these do end up being as good as the muppet figs, there's just no way I could justify spending $15/fig. No matter how much I love a character. granted I've paid 15+ for some of the palisades exclusives but that's usually like once every six mos. or so. most of the figs I've bought for 10 or less. Well liek I said we'll just have to wait and see.

--Matt

[Fozzie Bear]

Well, well.

$15, huh?

I'm out. They would have to do a complete turn-around from their original designs and offer something 10 times better in order to get my consumership which, obviously, they aren't going to do. There's been no promises of better-looking figures in the future...or any other information as far as that goes...and these are definitly not something I want to purchase in their current state.

Ya'll can have 'em, but they are definitely not something I will be paying for to add to my collection. Oscar's trash can and Slimey are NOT accessories to be listed as it's only a giant PVC!

Blah!

[Baby Animal]

For $15, are these in scale with the Muppets line or with the Megas line? How can you justify spending $15 on something 6' tall if it is nowhere near the quality of the Muppets figures which are $10 ($9 at Target)? They think they have the Sesame Street fans by the gotees and can drag them wherever they want. I think I'll wait until they are on the clearance shelfs at Target for 75% off before I even think of them.

[Cap Backfire]

OK, let's keep our collective chins up. We still know nothing from the actual company... This $15 thing could be a ruse for this ebay guy to jack up his price and justify it to dummies. They COULD be only 7 bucks or so and COULD be improved upon already. Didn't Mr Diresta say he was gonna show us pics of the further prototypes since they were in very early stages??? I'm still keeping my fingers crossed here... We'll see. Soon enough. I hope. And if Toy Fair has nothing on them, I would wash my hands of the whole thing, cause it's not like Fun 4 All is a chump company. They have had high end product out in the past, and know the glory of the Toy Fair.

Anyway, chin up chums!!!

[Fozzie Bear]

True in regards to Toy Fair. I'll give it some time. However, someone correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Mr. Diresta going to give us more info this month?

FYI: I don't have anything against F4A or Mr. Diresta. I'm just picky what I spend money on nowadaze--my pockets aren't deep. The only thing deep about my money is how far in debt I am. These have to be up to my quality to be collected by me.

[somethingofafan]

They think they have the Sesame Street fans by the gotees and can drag them wherever they want.
Which is crazy, because most people outside this forum who watch Sesame Street can't even grow goatees.

[Baby Animal]

Well, I thought it was less crude than what they actually think they have us by.

[Erine81981]

OK, let's keep our collective chins up. We still know nothing from the actual company... This $15 thing could be a ruse for this ebay guy to jack up his price and justify it to dummies. They COULD be only 7 bucks or so and COULD be improved upon already. Didn't Mr Diresta say he was gonna show us pics of the further prototypes since they were in very early stages??? I'm still keeping my fingers crossed here... We'll see. Soon enough. I hope. And if Toy Fair has nothing on them, I would wash my hands of the whole thing, cause it's not like Fun 4 All is a chump company. They have had high end product out in the past, and know the glory of the Toy Fair.

Anyway, chin up chums!!!

I agree w/ Cap here. I'm keeping my fingers cossed until I see them in the stores or when Mr Diresta shows us pics. Maybe there just selling the copies of the not so good looking figures. Some could of gotten their hands on the prototypes and selling them. There could be lots of those things hidding anywhere. So cossed figures they are.

[Fozzie Bear]

Ha Haaa!!

(re: What they have us by statement!)

[King Prawn]

Well, I thought it was less crude than what they actually think they have us by.

Forbidden Planets have the SS figs for £8.99 which if i'm not mistaken is about $13.50 so it does seem like thats the suggested retail price

[Drtooth]

15 bucks is a bit Much! I was looking to spending up to 10 or so at the most expensive stores. I mean, because of that, I will definately only buy Super Grover and Cookie. I just hope they can at least scale the price down to a resonable 10 bucks and under (all action figures are required buy law to be 10 bucks these days...)

Personally, I am just really peeved they didn't fix Bert's head in spite of the numerous complaints against it. I like them, but not 15 bucks per figure like them... Until they release Guy Smiley.... If anything I hope this line does well enough to at least see a Guy Smiley...

[Erine81981]

Have ya'll ever thought that maybe the'll be sold togeather? They could be the figures that like the Muppet Figures are as in the the small ones. Or they could be prototypes and other stores r selling the as a set. Get what I'm saying.

[Warrick]

The figures will be under $10. Most probably $9.99.

and those images ARE prototypes. Dont take much notice of them, They are the same as what we all saw when Phil first posted.

[Drtooth]

Hopefully they will fall into the 8.99-10 price range. I'll get them all if they are, but if they indeed are 15 a pop, I'm only getting Cookie, Grover, and maybe Oscar. I can say that these should be protos, or second string retools. If they look exactly the same, I won't be thrilled, but I won't be peeved either... unless they are 15...

[uncleduke]

Hopefully they will fall into the 8.99-10 price range. I'll get them all if they are, but if they indeed are 15 a pop, I'm only getting Cookie, Grover, and maybe Oscar. I can say that these should be protos, or second string retools. If they look exactly the same, I won't be thrilled, but I won't be peeved either... unless they are 15...

MSRP is 14.99

http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/toys/02_04/06_sesame_street.htm

[uncleduke]

How the heck could this guy get these figs and what's the deal anyway??? They look EXACTLY like the prototypes... And 30 days from shipping??? I have to do some internet exploring here. This is simply too bizzare for me...
I'm all up with the jibblies here... :cool:
Well for what it's worth, this seller is always violating eBays policy about 30 day pre-sales.
He has been auctioning off Mega Gonzo since October, and I think he started listing Pigs in Space last July

[Warrick]

I have already told you guys.

They will be under $10, Most likely stores will have them up at $9.99.
Those images ARE the same Prototypes that we saw (The images should still be at the beginning of this thread!)

You can stop worrying now, Its confirmed.

[lilcris]

Well the only one I want out of this series is Cookie Monster. And how could they leave Big Bird out of series 1, guess he will be in series 2.

[WiGgY]

But Uncleduke sells figures so he would know if these are 15 a piece, and he says they are.

[Cap Backfire]

OK, for once I wholeheartedly agree with Wiggy... If the SRP is 14.99 and UnleDuke agrees, I just wanna know where you came across your info Warrick (unless you are actually an agent of Mr Diresta!!!! Hmm... I may be on to something here...) I totally want to believe you but I need some factual basis besides someone saying it's been checked and rechecked. NO offense, seriously. This whole thread has most of us up in arms...

Even at 10 bucks these things need a major retooling as far as I'm concerned. I want an Oscar more than I want a new liver but I don't want that one. They do kinda have us by the.. Well... Anyway, they have us where they want us right now being the first company to put out quality (whether you all agree or not) SST action figs.

PS, thanks for the info on that guy from ebay Uncle Duke. I appreciate someone else doing some legwork on this guy. I'm kind of an ebay dope and only did what I could, but this adds some new info.


OK, so far the $10 thing has me in higher spirits Warrick, now make it a reality for me!!! Please??? :p

[Warrick]

Ok, I can say that it came from the Company. So we are straight there, No one else would know better than them.

They are also going through one more round of tooling then they will be done.

[Drtooth]

How did you find out?

[floydnjanicefan]

How did you find out?

Yeah, How did you find out? When I emailed the company again they never responded. I actually think that I emailed them twice, just to see what was going on. And both times, I was ignored. :mad: Have they told you anything else, Warrick?

[Warrick]

They didnt tell me anything else.

[Luke]

Yeah you can believe Warrick, he knows his stuff ! Uncleduke and others still seem right about the $14.99 price at Diamond though but someone mentioned on the Palisades forum that it may be a premium added by them and not Fun4All so not sure about that - maybe they will be $15 in comic shops and $9.99 at places like TRU. As far as i'm concerned, even at $9.99 with MAJOR re-tooling these are being WAY over-priced for what they are and will only appeal to select parts of the speciality figure market. The whole point of doing Sesame as opposed to Muppets is you have a greater chance of getting both the kid and speciality markets into the line and being successful. At this price i can't see the kids or parents buying them up - they needed to be $5.99'ish which with the less technical sculpting, greater distribution power and limited articulation should really have been possible.

[Fozzie Bear]

Unless they had no faith in this line to begin with and are going with a VERY limited release up front which would increase the pricing of these figures, right?

They could still win me over, but they have a hard task of doing it.

[The Count]

Well, with the pricing and resculpting taken care of, I feel that I can make this comment again.

Should I hope for...
1 Success for Fun-4-All's Sesame Street action figure line? Depends on the sculpting, likenesses, articulation, and other factors. If so, there might be hope that this line could (*Note: "Could") bring us as wide an array of Sesame characters in figure form as Palisades has done for the Muppets.
2 Failure for Fun-4-All's Sesame Street figure line? Just not sure how it'll be received given recent grumblings. Sure, then another company like Palisades could get themselves the license, maybe for the 40th Anniversary if not sooner, and do it true justice. But it might not bode favorable for such a move, since any secondary license-holding company would have to wait a while before re-releasing new product to the markets after the previous lackluster performance of similar products.
Well, still got my figners crossed that these may end up looking halfly decent.

[Gonzo the Grape]

Yeah, I'm not going to spend that much on a regular sized action figure. $36 for an Ernie and Bert? Unless they look EXACTLY like the puppets and come with a seven dollar bill I'm out. It's dissapointing, I would have liked to collect them, but... ah. I guess it's Fun-4-a select few.

[Cap Backfire]

OK, Gonzo, expect my cleaning bill for my wool pants I just filled with urine. That "select few thing nearly knocked me off my chair. I think that 10 bucks isn't too far off as far as pricing. My nephews (4 and 1) get some fisher price figures (Action Crap Squad or something) that run around 10 bucks, so parents can and DO shell out this kinda dough. The beanies they made of the SST group a few years ago (pretty cool set actually) ran about 5 bucks each at first... This is feasible pricing actually as long as they still come with the letters with eyes and mouths. With some retooling (I think Warrick is a corporate spy, but he works for us now or something...HAHAHAH) these could work very well. I think the guys who are suggesting a retail price of 15 bucks are using the pre-sale theory here. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Anyway, there's STILL alot of hope here and if they keep it under 10 bucks (which they should with limited articulation) I am certainly in.

PS, I LOVED that Dr Teeth had the same theory as me. Even with the 15 dollar price tag he was like ..."only gonna buy Cookie and Grover." Then 2 posts later was all "...Only gonna buy Cookie, Grover and Oscar." I was right with him but Cookie came third... HAHAHAHAAH. It's funny what we'll do for some nostalgia...

[Fozzie Bear]

Count, based on discussions at Palisades you might agree with this, I dunno:

Seems that the resulting sales of the F4A SS Figs will determine if any other company--whether they make the figs look exactly like the puppets or not--will ever attempt this kind of license again. Seems with the lack-luster sales of the playsets Palisades is going to base future sales of playsets (or not) on the amount of Backstage Playsets sold, or we'll get mini-environments, right?

Well, if that's the way the industry works, then they (or any other company) might look at the numbers (rather than quality) of sales of the SS figures and say it isn't worth their time or effort.

I would think that a company would realize that what the people REALLY want is something GOOD for a change. It's always be toy-like or cartoony stuff for the SS characters in any form, never something as a true representation of the characters' integrity. That being said, I would hope that if F4A sales aren't good, that a future company will take into consideration the quality of the sculpts and the pricing as a cause for sales not being too high--if that's the case.

However, I do hope that this line will be 10x better than what we're expecting. Heck, I would pay $15/figure if they look like the actual Muppet characters! But, the articulation has to be better and there has to be a promise for a better Oscar in the future.

What do ya'll think?

FOZ

[The Count]

Thanks for the feedback Kev. Man do we miss your managerial leadership/interaction back at the dormhouse. (Don't bother checking in right now, since we're on a field trip to SS.)
But yes, I only hope that our expectations for the betterment of these figures after the prototype pics will be somewhat rewarded. And if not, then the only disappointment will be for those who try to sell them and the stigma for the next company. Though I rully rully hope that Palisades could convince future retailers of the quality of the property should they pick up the license in any forseeable future scenario.

[lilcris]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt Fisher Price make a line of Sesame Street figures?

As for the Fun-4-All figures they look nice but not $10 nice. From the looks of them they look like they would be $6.99 toys.

[Drtooth]

Yeah you can believe Warrick, he knows his stuff ! Uncleduke and others still seem right about the $14.99 price at Diamond though but someone mentioned on the Palisades forum that it may be a premium added by them and not Fun4All so not sure about that - maybe they will be $15 in comic shops and $9.99 at places like TRU. As far as i'm concerned, even at $9.99 with MAJOR re-tooling these are being WAY over-priced for what they are and will only appeal to select parts of the speciality figure market. The whole point of doing Sesame as opposed to Muppets is you have a greater chance of getting both the kid and speciality markets into the line and being successful. At this price i can't see the kids or parents buying them up - they needed to be $5.99'ish which with the less technical sculpting, greater distribution power and limited articulation should really have been possible.

That's pretty much what I am saying. Retailers would NOT sell these for 15, just indie retailers. But as far as them being 5.99 (Which I would love) realistically, I haven't seen action figures under 7 bucks for the longest time, except Playmates Simpsons and TMNT Line (even then, only at retail). The price of action figures climbs ever higher, and they seem as pricey as ever. Besides they are more worth the price tag than those God Awful MacFarline "Sports Hero" figures that the stores keep restocking... even though they never sell.

>>I would think that a company would realize that what the people REALLY want is something GOOD for a change. It's always be toy-like or cartoony stuff for the SS characters in any form, never something as a true representation of the characters' integrity. That being said, I would hope that if F4A sales aren't good, that a future company will take into consideration the quality of the sculpts and the pricing as a cause for sales not being too high--if that's the case.<<

That seems to be SW's ruling on the matter... take a look at this thread
http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=10909&highlight=Sesame

That's why I've defended the line on everything but the lack of attention and the price. I want to know WHY SW wants every thing to be based on cartoon stylization. Of course I ALSO want to know why the DVD's only have 30 minutes of footage on them and cost 13 bucks, why they put so many "Celebrity songs" on Songs of the Street, why the Cookie Monster Plushes look like fat Twiddle bugs, why the Sesame merch other than T-shirts is all singing Elmos... etc.

>>Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt Fisher Price make a line of Sesame Street figures?<<

They actually DID! They cost the exact same price, now that I think about it. I saw them a couple years back, and ... you think these look bad....

They came with one large accessory (I think Ernie had 2), They talked (Meaning they had a large cover on their backs to place batteries in) and they were also "Cartoon Stylized" (only not retro 80's style... the same cartoony style they use on all the Merchandise for little kids) But I didn't mention the worst part... they only had 3, Ernie, Elmo, and Big Bird and they were all the same size. There wasn't even any attempt at scale. I think the "Talking" is what sold the toys... I don't even think they had head articulation.

Anyway, If anything I still want Cookie and Grover (Maybe Oscar... haven't decided yet) if they are indeed 15 bucks. But if they are 10, I may (also haven't decided) buy the whole set, but after I'm caught up with the Muppet figures. Though I would like to see the proposed "Toxic Orange" Oscar.

[lilcris]

Dr.Tooth are you sure Fisher Price only made 3 figures? Cause I saw an ebay auction for Big Bird, Zoe, and Rosita. Maybe they arent part of the US line of figs cause the seller was in the UK. But the 3 figs had that same cartoony look thou.

[Drtooth]

I think they were action figures... I can't recall what they were called. I saw 2 at a KB toy store, but that was out on the high way in the summer...

[floydnjanicefan]

I emailed Fun-4-All and they responded by telling me that the new pictures are not the final product. He said that they are still making revisions and that we should be able to see the new revisions soon - at least by Toyfare.

[Baby Animal]

Of course, if you really feel like it, you can AIM DjExactor. He's on right now.

[Warrick]

They were not action figures. They were just PVC figures.

[pdiresta]

We are getting closer to finishing up the first line of Sesame Street action figures. Hopefully by the end of next week, we'll have pics to show.
***ATTENTION***
The figures on ebay and in the new Previews magazine are the ORIGINAL CLAY PROTOTYPES....we all know how much they suck....and they will NOT be $15...I don't know where that is from. They are projected to retail at 9.99..... I'll try and keep y'all posted.
ps: they look much better.
Philip

[Fozzie Bear]

YAY!!!

I just got excited about this line again! PLEASE impress me, Phil!!

[floydnjanicefan]

YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!! I can't wait until the end of next week! :p :( :grouchy: Oh boy! So excited!

[Drtooth]

YAY!!!

I just got excited about this line again! PLEASE impress me, Phil!!

I'll second that emotion! Any plans for series 2 accesories?

[King Prawn]

I'm one very excited Prawn... okay! :rolleyes:

I also order eveything Muppet/SS/Fraggle related and these went up for preorder at FP about two weeks ago and i've had them preordered ever since.

I'll be honest I havn't been all that excited about recieving them but I am now, I can't wait to find out the accurate accessorie list and see how the figures now look. And to be honest from the picture at Diamond that Oscar really impressed me and it was only just a proto.

I'm so excited :excited:

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! :)

[floydnjanicefan]

What is all this talk about an updated accessory list? Did Mr. DiResta say that the Series 1 accessories are changing? Oh well, either way, once again, I cannot wait!!!

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Hooray! I can't wait to find a place of honor for these guys in my collection!!

:p :( :grouchy: (and Grover and Cookie Monster)

[WiGgY]

Oh, so Mr. Diresta isn't dead. I thought he had died since he was suppose to answer questions and hadn't.

(for those thinking I'm being rude, I'm actually doing a parody of Boober talking to Mokey when she didn't get raddishes.)

Anyhoo, I'm willing to give the line a second chance. That Muppet letter packin in with each figure is certianly an interesting idea. Once new pics are shown, I'll know if I want to buy any. Though, I could never collect both Muppets and Sesame completely. I'll probably have to limit myself to only getting standard versions, if any.

Wow me Mr.Diresta, and you may hook me into the line. But if Bert still sucks....

[Drtooth]

But if Bert still sucks....

http://www.rixtins.com/sesamestreet/sstpg.html

click on the waste basket... I think that's the reason!
:eek:

[King Prawn]

What is all this talk about an updated accessory list? Did Mr. DiResta say that the Series 1 accessories are changing? Oh well, either way, once again, I cannot wait!!!

I just figured the accessorie's might have changed, want to know if Slimey is indeed an accessory or if he's sculpted onto Oscar's can, if Cookie's cookie is the same thing and if the letters is still a go since it wasn't mentioned in the Diamond listing

[Drtooth]

All I know is cookie's cookie isn't sculpted into his hands. I hope we still have the letters though. That's what sold me on this entire line.

[Fozzie Bear]

I liked the ideas of the letters. I suppose they'll go to numbers when the letters run out, huh?

[The Count]

Not necessarily there, Kev. Personally, I hope they bring in a Muppet number as an accessory for my namesake when his figure goes into production as part of S2. A bat, maybe Fatatita his cat or a spider or two with a Muppet number. I'd hope for a Muppet number 2 to come with the Two-Headed Monster, since his figure would be perfect for that. Get it? A "Two" Headed Monster coming with a Muppet number "2" as an accessory as part of Sesame Street Action Figures S2.
Hope this helps and have a good day.

[Erine81981]

I'm not trying to sound like a mother or being rude to people who got worked up over all the Proto types. I think we need to apologize to Pdiresta. He's gave ya'll hope on still wanting to buy them again. Now I had HOPE in this guy that these were not it. I'm not saying that I would of been happy if these were it but still I need all the hope I could get. I just wanted to tell ya'll this. Sorry to be so predjest. Hope not to ruin everyones fun on thinking these were it. I would of been w/ ya'll too on theses being it.

I want to apologize Pdiresta for not giving u credit on theses Clay Models. Sorry.

[WiGgY]

I'll apologize if the new ones are up to par.

[Cap Backfire]

OK, so I really wanna bust some jokes here, but I'll refrain for today.

Good to hear from you Philip. Thanks for finally posting back. I think we coulda shaved about 22 pages off this thread alone if you woulda posted sooner.

The $15 thing was me. There was a guy pre-selling on ebay and I asked him some questions about the line and he told me that the suggested retail was 14.99. I just relayed it here. We HAD to speculate since no new info was coming our way officially. Sorry about that. While the cat's away, the mouse will get jiggy.

Anyway, I realize you have probably been hella-busy geting this line together so utterly forgive you for not posting anything prematurely here. Good luck with your line, for yours and our sakes.

josh.

[Warrick]

I told you all that they'd be $9.99.


People just chose to hear the eBay seller over me.

[WiGgY]

Well, you never backed it up and all we had was the diamond distributor.

[uncleduke]

I told you all that they'd be $9.99.


People just chose to hear the eBay seller over me.


Not that I was doubting you Warrick, but all of the literature I have on these lists the SRP as $14.99.
If they need to be sold for $9.99 I won't carry them in my shop since I would loose money on each item!

[scooter289]

Hi pdiresta I was wondering, Is Big Bird going to be around Sweetums height of 10 inches since these figures are supposed to be around the same scale as Palisades Muppet line?

[Gonzo]

Hey Phillip,

Thanks for posting again and giving us a heads-up.

Can't wait to see the revised figures--we really want to buy these toys.

:p :( :grouchy:

[King Prawn]

I hope we see some pictures soon, I especially want to see the revised :( & :p

[Whatever]

I will probably buy the Two Headed Monster in Series Two, if he's good, but that's about it. I would love a Two Headed Monster figure. I'm not sure why. I just love him! :flirt:

[Baby Animal]

I'm still thinking we've been spoiled by Ken and Palisades.

From what I've heard, when the Muppet line was starting, Ken was here constantly answering questions, as he does now at the Palisades boards. If you really want to get the people behind your product, be available. I think Ken is kinda special, being patient and having a sense of humor, to take a lot of what we throw at him, but some interaction on the part of F-4-A would be a step in the right direction.

I like being spoiled.

[Gonzo the Grape]

I'm glad we heard from Fun-4-All. I'm excited to see your new sculpts!
When is the web site for F-4-A going up??
:( :p

[Warrick]

Come and post your top Three choices for Sesame Street figures!

http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=12358

:p :(

[Fozzie Bear]

I will probably buy the Two Headed Monster in Series Two...I just love him! :flirt:


Him, or them??

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Him, or them??

"Both of him"

[Fozzie Bear]

"Both of him"

I can go with that.

[Drtooth]

Stupid me... I should have pointed out that bert should come with his "Doin' the Pidgeon" Hat... :confused:

[floydnjanicefan]

Hi pdiresta I was wondering, Is Big Bird going to be around Sweetums height of 10 inches since these figures are supposed to be around the same scale as Palisades Muppet line?

I really hope that Big Bird is that tall. I also think that Snuffy and Barkley (if made) should be in similar proportions. You would have to change the packaging for those figures, but I think it would make the line much better.

Has it ever been confirmed whether Grover's Super Grover costume is removable or not? Also, is Slimey removable from Oscars can?

[Warrick]

Super Grover's Helmet and Cape are removable. Slimey wont be removeable due to chocking hazards. Remember even tho these figures are based towards us (the adult fans), They still need to be made child friendly.

For who loves Sesame Street more than us? Kids!

But, Im sure you could use a sharp blade to take Slimey off. Then just paint over the spot you took him from.

:p :(

[Gonzo]

Super Grover's Helmet and Cape are removable.


Oooh, I did not know that. That means I can make a Waiter Grover, Sheriff Grover, Taxi Driver Grover...

:halo:

[floydnjanicefan]

Super Grover's Helmet and Cape are removable. Slimey wont be removeable due to chocking hazards. Remember even tho these figures are based towards us (the adult fans), They still need to be made child friendly.

For who loves Sesame Street more than us? Kids!

But, Im sure you could use a sharp blade to take Slimey off. Then just paint over the spot you took him from.

:p :(

That is good news about Super Grover. I think that will be great. Do you know how his hero logo stays on - is it a magnet or a peg or what?

[Fozzie Bear]

For who loves Sesame Street more than us? Kids!

I disagree. We've known the Street LONGER than the kids. Besides, the kids have all the FisherPrice stuff! WE need our OWN SS Collectibles, so forget the kids.

(j/k) :p

[Warrick]

Quinn,
There are so many possibilities!

FloydandJanice,
The 'G' is sculpted on.

Kev,
Yeah but Sesame Workshop wants something for all ages!

:p :(

[WiGgY]

The G is sculpted on? Why? I'll still be getting Grover I think. I do like the likeness for him.

So, the new pics will be shown tomorrow?

[Warrick]

Over in the 'Most Wanted Sesame Figure' thread people were asking about the possibities of making the Human cast. I wanted to keep that about Muppets, So i thought id post the answer here.

It IS possible, But would probably need a different license. Also the Humans wouldnt appeal to the wide range of buyers, Only the die hard fans. If they were in demand then they still wouldnt be done until a long way down the line. The Muppets are being focused on first.

:p :(

[WiGgY]

I'd hate a human cast figure set. It would never look right.

[Warrick]

If Humans were made I would only buy Susan, Gordon, Bob, Mr Hooper, Maria and Luis. Maybe David if he was made...

[floydnjanicefan]

If they made humans, I would probably only buy Maria, Luis, Gordon, Susan, Bob, Linda, Mr. Hooper, and Gina. Those were the most important human characters when I was younger...

Warrick, thanks for the answers. Do you know anything about the size of Big Bird in series 2 and if series 2 has even been sculpted in clay yet? Thanks...

[Walker Boh]

If Humans were made I would only buy Susan, Gordon, Bob, Mr Hooper, Maria and Luis. Maybe David if he was made...Coming soon ... Bob with kung fu grip and super sweater of justice.

[The Count]

And don't forget to get chase variant, Laundry Bob in his nafarious alter-ego.
Comes complete with magnetic fedora, mouthguard muffler, washing machine bubble-jet pack, and static cling socks for foiling Blue Bird's heroics!

[Baby Animal]

I would definately go for a Mandy Paquin figure as Huxley. Then we could customize him to make him Inigo Montoya.

[floydnjanicefan]

The reason I originally suggested the human cast is because I think that they deserve recognition. These people have worked on Sesame Sreet for many years and I think that an action figure woluld sort of be a way to honor them for all that they have done for the show. I know that I too would prefer the Muppet characters, but I think that once the line reaches series 4 or 5, it might be nice to include one human in the assortment per series.

Anyway, I hope that we get to see the new pictures today!

[WiGgY]

Ok, where are the pictures? Is this not the end of the week?

[floydnjanicefan]

I guess that we will probably have to wait until Toy Fair... :( Oh well, if the changes are as good as I am hoping, then it will be worth the weight.

[Cap Backfire]

First: I feel that we here at Muppet Central have been spoiled by Mr Lilly over the last few years with repeated visits to this site with "insider info" on the line we all love and adore. I know this is atypical behaviour for a product manager/ whatever title he holds with Pallisades, and I adore him for it, but I also realize we are spoiled by this treatment.

Second: I also feel that Mr Diresta intended to give us this treatment originally and, for whatever reason, thought against it.

I don't have anything against Mr Diresta and I am CERTAIN he's a very busy man. But I can't stand that we have nearly 500 posts on this thread alone about this line of toys and are repeatedly promised info regarding such a major point of interest to nearly everyone here, and those promises are constantly empty. It's now 10:00 central time on a Saturday and we were told we would have more info by the "end of the week." There is still no new info. The fact that I have no new info is less of a perturbance than the fact that I was told I would HAVE some info by a certain time. If this is how things are handled regarding this line NOW, I can only imagine how they will be handled when the line actually comes out.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but if it does, it's just my opinion. I don't even intend to offend Mr Diresta. This is not intended to be inflammatory either. I KNOW it sounds that way, but my family and friends who could give a hoot about this line anyway are tired of hearing about it and my griping. I had to post it here to see if anyone else shared my feelings, even in a small part. I have strived to keep this civil, as in essence this is still just a discussion about action figures, and not REALLY that big a deal.

Again, I have not intended to anger anyone here, nor am I asking anyone to jump on my bandwagon. I AM asking for simple accountability to be displayed if I am to be expected to spend upwards of $200 on a toy line (I just came up with this figure to calculate the first 20 figs I would buy of this line).

Thank you for your time.

josh.

[WiGgY]

Well, there's always tomorrow, but I doubt it.

What really sucks is that SW didn't accept Palisades bid on the license!!! It turns out that they DID try to get the license and Fun-4-Crap took it out from under them! It's one thing not to have that one-on-one relationship, I understand that (even though they did SAY that would happen), but when something is said and then THAT doesn't happen I get mad. It's crap. If Palisades gets outbid for the Fraggles, I won't be happy.

[Gonzo the Grape]

BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazy:

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Yoda: The boy has no patience...

Obi-Wan: He will learn patience.

Seriously, perhaps these just weren't ready to show yet. There's a lot of reasons why we might not have seen the new models yet. I'm giving them the benifit of the doubt--I'd rather see the figures when the people making them feel comfortable showing them.

[Erine81981]

Yoda: The boy has no patience...

Obi-Wan: He will learn patience.

Seriously, perhaps these just weren't ready to show yet. There's a lot of reasons why we might not have seen the new models yet. I'm giving them the benifit of the doubt--I'd rather see the figures when the people making them feel comfortable showing them.

I agree with Yoda, Obi-Wan and Andywan Kenobi. Just let them show them when they fell more patience. Don't be so unpatience.

[Cap Backfire]

Then tell me they're not ready.
Diresta contacted us initially with promises to keep us notified and updated, as one of the largest collections of SST fans anywhere. I was hoping to just express my opinion about my dissapointment and not encite people to rash acts/ words (who am I kidding, I'm an instigator), but that can't always work. I surely hope that this line rocks. Odds are no matter what I will be buying these figs. I just feel upset about broken words. At the very least it shows dishonesty.

[Warrick]

From what I know there is a delay, The figures were being panted at the end of last week (when we should have seen photos.)

Im sure we'll see them this week.

:( :p

[WiGgY]

I just read what was said and the F4A guy (I can't remeber names) did say "hopefully" so my outrage has subsided. If he said they will show pictures or that pictures would definatly be shown, then I'd still be mad. But since the term was "hopefully", meaning not a certainty, I'm ok with not getting pictures this past friday.

[Gonzo the Grape]

I was kidding when I wrote boycott (in case that jumped yo heads). Seriously I think few on this board could pass these up no matter how cruddy they look or how long they take.

Yoda- "Your life... or Sesame Street figures."
Obi Wan- "..."
Yoda- "Ob-ster?"
Obi Wan- "I'm thinking, I'm thinking."

[WiGgY]

I'm not sure that's true. At least not at 110 dollars a piece.

Since the F4A guy said the early protos sucked, I'm guessing the new ones won't look anything like them. If drastic changed weren't made, he'd just get the same back lash. So they have to be some what good.

[AndyWan Kenobi]

Yoda- "Your life... or Sesame Street figures."
Obi Wan- "..."
Yoda- "Ob-ster?"
Obi Wan- "I'm thinking, I'm thinking."

Wow--Sesame Street, Star Wars, and Willy Wonka all in one post. My hat is off to you...

:D

[WiGgY]

Ok, where are the pictures?

[floydnjanicefan]

Ok, where are the pictures?

Hopefully we will get to see them tomorrow, since I think that tomorrow is the first day of Toy Fair. Hopefully Fun-4-All will show the revised Series 1 then (and if we are lucky, Series 2 prototypes also :D )

[floydnjanicefan]

I was just wondering, if pictures of the new figures do come up on-line, on what sites do you think that they could be found? I am really looking forward to seeing the revisions...

[WiGgY]

Most liklely they will be seen here eventually.

http://www.action-figure.com/Tevents+index-req-listarticles-event-45.html

Just reload the page to see if they've been put up. Nothing yet though.

[Fozzie Bear]

Most liklely they will be seen here eventually.

http://www.action-figure.com/Tevents+index-req-listarticles-event-45.html

Just reload the page to see if they've been put up. Nothing yet though.

BLUES BROTHERS!!!!!! MEZCO!!! BLUES BROTHERS!!!!!!!

Edited:

Um...'that's' the blues brothers???

[WiGgY]

Yeah, they look freaky.

Here's another site that will have Toy Fair coverage. Nothing there as of yet though.

http://69.93.35.18/photo/1/showgallery.php?cat=1068&password=

[floydnjanicefan]

Thanks WiGgy, I will keep checking the site today. It seems as if action-figure.com keeps adding more to their site, so hopefully soon they will add the Sesame Street stuff...

[Fozzie Bear]

Yeah, they look freaky.

That company makes the ugliest action figures. I won't be buying those Blues Brothers toys for sure.

See, it's companies like that which makes ugly toys that nobody wants that causes the value of such a license to decrease to other companies when they look at the figures and say, "well, it didn't sell worth anything."

I know for sure that all the Ghostbsuters fans will be buying those action figures. They're beautiful! GO NECA!!!

[WiGgY]

Yeah, Slimer and the Terror dogs look FAN-FREAKIN'-TASTIC! Stay Puuft look cool as we.. I always wanted a large Stay Puft toy every since I missed out on it when RGB toys were out. Too bad the Ghost Busters won't be in the lione. That kind of takes away from it. But hopefully they's at least fit proton packs and traps into the line some how.

So, when do we see these freakin' Sesame figures? After all this suspense, they better be perfect.

[WiGgY]

Where are the pics? Phil? Mr. Diresta? Come on now. I'm getting frustrated again.

[King Prawn]

I want to go to bed but not until I see pics of these.

[Gonzo]

I want to go to bed but not until I see pics of these.

You're gonna be a tired boy.

:sleep:

[King Prawn]

You're gonna be a tired boy.

:sleep:

I sure am, the funny thing is i'm still here waiting.

[WiGgY]

Yeah, if they aren't up by now they won't be up today. That site must have been getting pounded though. It kept going off line.

[King Prawn]

Well it's late, i'm gonna check the Pal board one more time and i'm off to bed, hopefully we'll see something tomorrow. :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[muppet maniac]

I Can't wait to see the pictures.When are they going to be up???

:p :( :grouchy:

[KermMorningstar]

I'd really like to see Herry (sp?) Monster and Prairie Dawn
and Snuffy is a must, too!

Wow, I'm so excited about this! :)